1851 Navy: London Model

[@GunsOfTheWest]

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[@DukeFrazierProductions]

London models were marked "Address Col Colt- London". Hartford models were marked "Address SamL Colt- New York City", "Address SamL Colt- Hartford CT", "Address Col SamL Colt- New York US America". Would love to have one of these some day!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I knew you were the guy to know about the markings! Thanks, Duke!

[@charliestoybox2099]

@@GunsOfTheWest Dustin, what Duke said. My London is my favorite of the ones I haven’t shot in my collection yet. Congratulations on your beauty.

[@jefferydavis5990]

In my opinion, the colt navy is the prettiest of the colts, especially with the blued steel backstrap and trigger guard.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

You know, it even shoots with a British accent. Very cool!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Hahaha!!

[@josephhaack5711]

Yes, but always on the left side! Lol

[@bobg1685]

"Good thing she's pretty." The slogan of high-maintenance blondes around the world. Nice vid.

[@Eggmayor]

😂

[@siris1113]

Just bought one of these on Sportsman's Guide, look forward to shooting it alongside my Pietta 1860 army.

[@sailingmaster]

Bought one of these Uberti London model 1851's for my dad. It was his Xmas gift. Loves it.

[@bunkstagner298]

Nice shooting and the scenery in the background is stunning.

[@pauleades9037]

Took my Uberti London Navy on the range today for the first time and it was a pleasure to shoot. I used my own cast balls and lubed wads, plus 15 grains of Swiss No. 2 (fffg) and CCI No.11 caps (would have preferred Remington No.10s, but couldn't get any!). Fired about 40 rounds with no major issues, only 2 misfires due to caps dropping off, with no jams as I routinely tipped the gun to the right when cocking, so spent caps fell away. Shoots a little low at 25 metres, but if I increase the load I should be able to compensate for that. Just finished cleaning her ready for next weekend at the range! Lovely pistol, very pleased with it!

[@Danny2310C]

Thank you for showing this great Old Western gun 🤠👍👍

[@Shot_Gunner]

There is a lot of utility in the old western style guns and revolvers. It’s funny because while everyone else is hunting for .556 ammo, all of my oddball calibers are in stock for most of my revolvers. Especially cap and ball. 😁

[@BigRooster616]

I have always liked the Lundon model 51's

[@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder]

That is the gun that Richard F. Burton and John H. Speke used to defend themselves when exploring Africa trying to fing the sources of the Nile !

[@derekcarmona]

Hello Dustin... received delivery of my 1851 navy today and set about to clean the pistol just as I learned it from your vlog... due to the wedge plug being unusually tight, well I managed to scratch up the frame trying to loose up the wedge 😞... anyhows I managed to get the pistol cleaned and THANK YOU for the excellent instructions! I was quite surprised at the hefty weight of the pistol! I’m really giddy pleased with this pistol - despite scratching up the wedge area ... I just remind myself that this is just the first of many more blemishes and scratches to come... Thank You for the inspirations, informations, and instructions... Cheers

[@jackpitw]

The most amazing thing here is the fact you have found #10 percussion caps! I don't think there is a can left in stock for sale anywhere in the country.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Luckily, I had some in storage before things got crazy. I just have to shoot sparingly now.

[@nicktubby3768]

I have one of these and I shoot it in... London! Best looking handgun of all time... and yes, I get the jammed caps all the time

[@kiwiwarrior3012]

I have seen an original London that was one of fifteen used as a prize in a local militia marksman contest, the man had grips carved out and it looks amazing even in it’s current state.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That’s awesome!

[@notsosilentmajority1]

Beautiful revolver........ They look great with or without the brass.

[@thomassicking100]

I have two 1851's and two 3rd model dragoons. Best cap and ball revolvers ever. After some work.

[@Bayan1905]

I have an older Pietta Navy that's a London model, steel triggerguard and I put on a set of Slix Shot nipples and it's a joy to shoot.

[@jthebk3864]

I've heard it helps to file the edges of the notch in the hammer to avoid cap sucking and the new slikshots should help too

[@OgamiItto70]

Pretty sweet.

[@ralphperez4862]

Got one, but in 44. Love it a whole bunch.

[@peacemaker-du4hz]

i watched the previous video and the sound on this one is much better,thanks for the redo . beautiful pistol too.im hooked on old school guns ,im just limited by funds to get the ones i like

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Yeah, I don’t know what happened to that original audio, but it was pretty bad. Thanks for watching!

[@peacemaker-du4hz]

@@GunsOfTheWest i never fail to watch one of your videos when they pop up ,subbed a while back and im hooked

[@williammccaslin8527]

It is one of the best looking BP pistols I've ever seen, for some reason it looks racy, spicey or sexy if you prefer, thx for the vid Dustin

[@Schlachtschule]

I agree with you that this is the most beautiful of the C&B revolvers, and I also agree you need to get some Slix-Shot nipples; I couldn't believe what a difference they make. I read an interesting story about the London model. It seems that Colt displayed his revolver at the Victorian Crystal Palace exhibit, and the Brits were so impressed with both the weapon and with the manufacturing process that they urged him to open a factory in London. Because of this, many British officers in the Crimea and some of the other mid-century campaigns carried Colt's revolvers (with the Adams being the other popular model)--at that time officers bought their own revolvers. Apparently, however, they were dissatisfied with the terminal ballistics of the .36-caliber, so the popularity waned.

[@pauleades9037]

Third time out with my Uberti London 51 Navy today. 100 plus rounds now put through it and no problems to report thus far. Shot at 25 metres, grouping consistently with homegrown .375 balls and wads lubricated with 50/50 beeswax/olive oil, a 15g fffg Swiss BP load and CCI 11 caps.

[@Sleepindragon2]

I just bought 2 of these. I always want a brace of 1851's. I blame you lol

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I’ll gladly take the blame. LOL!

[@garylewis3641]

What mountains is that in the background, very nice to look at? Good video, I enjoy your channel!

[@BogeyTheBear]

I took the blued steel grip from an Uberti Cattleman and fitted it to my Leech & Rigdon Navy. Now it looks like a cross between an 1851 London and an 1861 New Model Navy. Which, in a way, it _is:_ The Leech & Rigdon came out in 1862.

[@Flintlock85]

Hi Dustin, I have the exact same gun, and had to deal with the same cap jam issues as what you did on this video. Once I installed a set of Slix-Shot nipples...the problem went away. Thanks for the great video!

[@pauleades9037]

Can't seem to get Slix-Shot nipples here in the UK.......pity! May have to see if anyone in the US can ship them over!

[@mr.thickey3959]

Hey “señor Dustin”! I have two tablets I use back & forth. I yust (Swedish for “just”) subscribed to your channel on my Apple now! Boy am I proud! I started shooting guns in 1968 (I’m 81 now) when i bought my .36 Navy Arms brass framed C&B revolver. The COLT STYLED C&B revolvers were my first love & still are! I “lusted” after their aesthetically great sculptural beauty!! The 1860 Colt .44 Army, the 1861(?) Colt.36 Navy, & the 1851 Colt .36 Navy are to me the most gorgeous revolvers ever made, with the 1873 Colt .45 Army cartridge revolver right there near them!!! If a gun doesn’t have fine sculptural beauty, I’m not interested! No “black guns” for me, even though they do have their “place in the sun”, especially for home defense! I do think the brass trigger guard & backstrap do add much to the aesthetic appeal of the Colts though. Try cutting 1/4” dia. clear plastic tubing the same length of the caps & place the cap inside to eliminate cap jams, as they should not fall off the nipples into the action. They’ve worked great for me! Thanks for giving me much pleasure & excellent information with your fine videos! “Gesundheit”!

[@blackrzr1207]

I'm guessing gun fights with that wind would help with finding the targets on follow up shots

[@nikitamckeever5403]

Got one and I agree , so would Tuco , maybe 😂

[@alainmorin]

Thank you!

[@MrStensnask]

I never knew that it was loaded like that. So interesting. Must've been a revelation when the first complete cartridges came out for revolvers. So, so, so much easier.

[@tangydiesel1886]

I probably need to get a set of slix-shots in the mail for my pocket navy. Haven't shot it yet, but I read that the pocket ones are pretty bad about losing caps.

[@blackpowdershooter44]

That is a sweet looking revolver

[@pauleades9037]

Recently purchased the same model Navy and am hoping to get on the range with it this weekend. Will let you know how I get on!

[@JLJhippotype]

beautiful gun

[@johnt.chambers4204]

I have several percussion revolvers of different styles and calibers. I know everyone has their favorite but my choice has always been the 51. I probably have at least 8 maybe more. One of them I have reworked the front sight with a blade, widened the rear sight notch and reshaped the grip to fit my hand. I have tweaked it to the point that it shoots pretty much at point of aim at 25 yards.

[@drmachinewerke1]

LOL Are we Related

[@submanusn3692]

Dat octagonal barrel, yo. Love the lines of all the Colt Navys but the 51 with the octagonal barrel and brass trigger guard/backstrap is my favorite.

[@matthewsullivan5713]

Just received my Uberti 1858 yesterday! Excited to go shoot it! Just need to find some caps now....

[@geraldgust2066]

Awesome video as usual.

[@tomallen6073]

Freaking gorgeous, would love to see an engraved option.

[@Collin-bi1nf]

I just ordered the same gun and I can’t wait to get it! Sportsman guide has these for $315

[@kowalski363]

Great video

[@jayclark7237]

Rolling the wrist outward instead of inward works better for me in clearing spent caps.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Yep. The spent cylinder moves to the right, so tilting it to the right will let the burst copper fall free of the gun.

[@dominckcattane3222]

Hey just let you know I have just found your channel and I already watch 5 vids their amazing keep it up

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thank you!

[@drmachinewerke1]

I just built a fantasy sheriff model with all blued steel engraved parts. . Waiting for my paper cartridge tri- kit to get in. Then start a shooting.

[@D5quared91]

I have the Pietta London model. Gorgeous boi.

[@RealBelisariusCawl]

4:01 I’ve heard that the best way to keep caps from getting clogged in the mechanism, if you don’t want to be fiddling with the gun after every shot, is to REALLY flick that hammer back - like, with a whipping action on the gun - while supenating your hand somewhat so that the gun is canted left. Done right, it’ll kick the caps right off and out through the cut in the frame where you load ‘em on. Any validity to that bit of folklore?

[@jthebk3864]

I love the all blued look I honestly hate brass unless it's on a levergun and even then it's hit or miss

[@blackrzr1207]

Reminds me of my man with no name 51... except the 38 cartridge thing 😁

[@gregzeigler3850]

By the way, gentlemen(and maybe some ladies), Dustin not only is informative, but sells some mighty fine products on Esty. Is pretty fast in shipping, too.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks, Greg!

[@gregzeigler3850]

@@GunsOfTheWest You're welcome. And thanks for all the information for somebody that is just getting started in Black Powder guns!

[@SmallCaliberArmsReview]

Good thing it's pretty!!! HaHaHa! I have one like that myself! Great video Dustin!

[@claytonalexander9105]

where ya'll getting these Ubertis? From where im looking, Pietta are all over the place but i can hardly find Ubertii anywhere?

[@firewaterforgeofarizona4304]

All my Colts had cap jams. Don't care, still love them.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Me too! It’s just something we have to deal with, but everything else about these guns makes it worthwhile.

[@firewaterforgeofarizona4304]

@@GunsOfTheWest I saw you flicking your wrist to throw the spent cap out. I developed something like that and do it without thinking. Almost have no issues with the caps "ejecting" from the gun.

[@drmachinewerke1]

I started installing cap post / rake on mine Not even going to shoot that one until i have one in it I use roll pins

[@freefreeE1853]

je vien de me procure sur suberbe revolver london colt 1851 il est superbe e je vai bientot l essaye tres bien votre video

[@Mibit911]

I got your guns of the west lube and it's great for dipping paper cartridges but it's very hard qhen dry, how do I use it for luring the cylinder mouths?? I can't even break it apart

[@michaelgoldman1433]

Of course she's beautiful she's British and anything British has Class

[@dalesearcy5734]

Have you tried # 11 Mag caps on your revolvers? I know that they are larger. I slightly pinch them before placing them on the nipples to help them grip the nipples. When they ignite they tend to split and fall away from the gun which causes less jamming for my. I do this with my New Army revolver with very good success.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Downside of the blued steel backstrap: That top flaring portion is a veritable knife's edge! Be careful disassembling the gun if the backstrap is jammed tight against the grip, or you'll cut your thumb trying to pry the pieces apart.

[@perturabo5246]

i heard 1851s felt "balanced". does the steel in lieu of brass affect the weight in a noticable amount?

[@smartmeis]

I love that black back strap and trigger guard. I wish they made them in .44 that’s what I want next. I made the mistake and went .36 thinking I could pair it with my .357, using .38 special with the conversion cylinder. But I’m more interested in black powder and hand loading. Lol such a nice gun, and such an amazing era in human history. I need a colt, I got the Remington Pietta. No complaints tho. So far, fingers crossed.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Now I know that Uberti sells particular models of 1873 SAA with Army-sized grips, even blued-steel ones. Which means it's possible to order blue steel grip components to fit the Army grip of a .44 caliber 1860. The backstrap of many Colt 1860 Army guns already come in blued steel, so all you might need is to order an extra triggerguard from one of those specialized SAA offerings.

[@smartmeis]

@@BogeyTheBear that’s not a bad idea, I’ll look into that, I didn’t think any of them would be interchangeable like that, considering 21st century stupid things.

[@RobertBlevins]

20 grains is good. That will put a hole right through and out the other side of an expended propane canister without leaving lead inside. Ask me how I know. :)

[@BobGeanis]

The audio was fixed 😀

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Yeah, I don’t know what happened to it the first time, but it was pretty bad.

[@whspioneer89]

"Good thing it's pretty" lol

[@spaceway2781]

👍

[@wrxs1781]

The problem is the caps, very fragile, the originals had more more of a robust manufacture. I have some vintage Eley caps which are more heavily built in manufacture.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That’s true, but the problems I mentioned are also true.

[@fdmackey3666]

I hope you and my fellow subscribers and viewers of this video will forgive me for this comment....But here goes....Back in the late 1960s and into the mid 1970s and just before I became a fan of BP rifles, shotguns, and handguns, a friend of my Dad's owned nothing but BP firearms of Belgian and Italian manufacture with reproduction revolvers making up a large part of his collection. He used nothing but lead balls and "English" BP in his firearms touched off with #10 and #11 percussion caps depending on the firearm and it's caliber. In the case of his revolvers he would fire a round and, picture the recoil you would experience from a relatively light aluminum frame .44 Special or God help you a .44 Magnum revolver, intentionally bring the revolver (especially in the case of his Colt's reproductions) to a muzzle straight up position at his shoulder while thumb cocking and returning the revolver to a "Shootist/Duelist" position and back onto target for the next shot. In your opinion do you think such a rapid, muzzle up, style (following touching of a round) would elevate spent cap jams? Such a practice seemed to work reliably for my Dad's friend and I've yet to have a cap jam with my Remington New Army....But I'm still curious because I have my eye on a new, reproduction, Colt's Dragoon 3rd Model for relatively close range feral hog hunting purposes. Thanks for your time and yet another excellent video!!!

[@BogeyTheBear]

Raising the gun vertically before pulling the hammer off the spent cap would indeed eliminate most of the risk of a cap jam. Problem is a lot of gun ranges have explicit rules against raising the barrel while you're shooting because an accidental/negligent discharge might send the next bullet beyond the confines of the gun range. That's why the practice is not all that common.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

That actually does help, but in many cases (like in this video), the cap actually gets stuck in the slot in the hammer face. Filing the corners of the slot smooth can help though. A stronger main spring is also helpful.

[@fdmackey3666]

@@BogeyTheBear Thanks for the kind reply. As you know from my comment/question(s) it has been many years since I had the occasion to observe my Dad's friend crank off a full cylinder from any of his BP handguns (on his personal farm property of about 300 acres and "no rules" to speak of. Those were the days as the song goes....

[@fdmackey3666]

@@GunsOfTheWest See....That answers at least two questions that have sort of bugged me over the last several decades....And I thank you for those answers. Frankly, I had no clue. Perhaps my Dad's friend knew about such things but as a youngun' had no clue. Take care and keep the great videos comin'!!

[@edwincathey5260]

I have heard that the grip angle is different on the London model than on the standard uberti 1851 is that correct ?

[@BogeyTheBear]

I assume not, considering the Uberti steel and brass grip components are interchangeable.

[@decimator4566]

Was this reuploaded ?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Yes. Something horrible happened to the audio the first time. It should be fixed now.