PiFi #90 - Michael Cincoski - USMC Vet with Mick West and Steven Greenstreet

[@MickWest]

Sorry for my low volume. Streamyard always seems to do that to me. Must be something to do with my setup...

[@ArtisanTony]

It sounded fine live and I checked it just now and it seems fine. Thanks again for making it to the show.

[@Havax]

It could also be aliens turning the volume down

[@ArtisanTony]

@@Havax ha

[@f.d.miller3903]

Sounded great, Mick. Enjoyed your presentation, sir.

[@_nick_d]

Great visual breakdown Mick! Funny that the person publishing the video to the public “investigated” this for few years but doesn’t do this kinda of analysis

[@maciekjanicki1754]

I’m happy that you brought Mick W to this meeting. People should be really cautious about anything that comes from Knapp/corb entertainment bros.

[@CarloRossiTheGreat]

@@johnnyjericho8472 Because they have a vested interest in making money off of rubes likes you

[@dcscreenworks]

@CarloRossiTheGreat Do they though? Corbell has a full-time real estate job and journalism doesn't support him. Knapp is full-time journalist who makes money just as any other journalist does. So... where is this "making money off people" idea coming from? @@CarloRossiTheGreat

[@danielboon1601]

They always have great claims but never the evidence to back them up , I wonder why ?

[@firefly6147]

Why do you think he does this then? Lots of people have multiple jobs and they make money in all of em, and thats the sole purpose of them all. For someone saying people should be careful, sure theres no great harm in watching Corb/Knapp stuff. But it should be apparent at this point, these guys just scoure the net for balloon videos and markets them as 👽👽👽​ for views@@dcscreenworks

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

Corbell's behaviour since he "leaked" Jellyfish pretty much sums him up.....he's got his face on every podcast and news show who will have him. Some pretty low brow ones, too. He's creating his own media feeding frenzy. He's lapping it up. It's more about the phenomenon of his mouth and ego, and loving the exposure for HIMSELF, not the actual phenomenon. It's so obvious!!! One day he'll have his company logo on an ET Craft!! 😂

[@benchenery2860]

This is spot on. great to have Mick West involved, providing us with the video analysis.

[@DD-qo1tw]

I'm much closer to Micks views but I have to point out that when one person said some people claim to have experiences and then fail to pass a lie detector... that's not reliable evidence of a lie. Lie detectors don't detect lies they are an interrogation tool. They detect some changes that sometimes accompany lies but are also associated with stress states and other strong feelings. Also tons of evidence of people lying and passing exist. They're useful to police because suspects may believe they genuinely detect lies. They are not reliable at actually doing so.

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

Never ceases to amaze how countless KZbinrs can stretch out the same material for over an hour and a half, and all come to same conclusion: I've No idea what it is😅😅😅

[@ArtisanTony]

But I think that is the goal of those who released it :). The intel community loves to see how much confusion and division they can create. It’s a hobby for them :) it’s all they got besides collecting and holding secrets :)

[@Quilargo]

Mick West is not right at 15min, when he says, that the changing density of the object is chnging with the background from hollow to dark- in the rest of the video u can see, that the object changing its appearance without any connection to the background color; when it moves over bright objects in the behind, then its stays in a dark Mode and vice versa...Great Talk, thx for ur performance!

[@lc2c177]

How might the balloons be propelled then?

[@ArtisanTony]

The same way the balloons that were shot down over the US, the wind. This is evident in the video where there was no change in velocity.

[@tommymyers3183]

How are they not seen with the naked eye?

[@ArtisanTony]

@@tommymyers3183 it was at night so it must have just slipped by.

[@reneenuwer5721]

So if this is a balloon..what are the objects that look just like this that are filmed in other countries? This is NOT the only "jellyfish" video out there.

[@ArtisanTony]

I personally do not think it's balloons but some sort of tech like a drone disguised.

[@raphaelrosa3044]

The military doesn’t have “normal” cameras? It could be easily distinguishable a balloon

[@ArtisanTony]

I have a feeling we are not seeing the best video quality they have :) They may want us to think it's a balloon, otherwise they would say differently, right? Actually I think they like the idea of all of the division, that's what intel guys do :)

Only intel guys who are assigned to do such things do those things,@@ArtisanTony. Cointel and Coinsur mostly.

[@MickWest]

It was at night.

[@Jack_Parsons-666]

@@ArtisanTony exactly my thoughts. Can't tell if it's malevolent just to keep everyone divided forever or if they'll slowly start releasing better and better stuff. I think Corbell thinks his sources will eventually reward him with the "money shot" if he plays ball and keeps leaking these "teasers".

[@ArtisanTony]

@@Jack_Parsons-666 personally, I think he’s part of the game which is to make these slow drip drops of crappy videos to keep people interested but divided it’s that typical Intel game.

[@coastal-NC]

Lock on. Was that question brought up? Corbell claims he was told the camera can lock on to threats but they couldn’t lock onto it.

[@ArtisanTony]

This is a claim that cannot be verified at the moment that I know of. Corbel has been know to embellish info before so I am on a wait and see with this one.

[@patrowan7206]

This is now, IMHO, the go-to video for those who want to know about the jellyfish. Thanks!

[@ArtisanTony]

Thanks!

[@deerfeeder2076]

Great show btw, and that or those objects are invisible to the naked eye and invisible to night vision. Definitely not balloons. @29:54 in your video is about the clearest frame with detail. Youll make out the alien like i desribed in other comment.

[@juliao1255]

I was hoping there would be livestream comments and questions. I would like to contact Michael Cincoski. Any chance I can get his contact info?

[@MRCinco96]

I'm always open to answering questions. Whatcha got?

[@tommymyers3183]

​@@MRCinco96how confident are you that there is actually footage of the "Jellyfish", UAP going into and coming out of the water?

[@MRCinco96]

@@tommymyers3183 About 50/50. Very possible there's more footage that I haven't seen since anyone who had access to the video feed could make their own recordings at the time of the event. Whether or not any potential footage shows any kind of interaction with the water is still anyone's guess.

[@danielboon1601]

If there was ,I’d think they would have released it to confirm their so far speculative story .

[@juliao1255]

@@MRCinco96 I wanted to find out how we're related, and I got the answer. My father is (was) George, your father's brother. So I'm your 2nd cousin. (I think?) I'm pleased to have such a smart, articulate, and good -looking relative. - lol. i am a student of ACIM, and thought I would like to connect within your coaching function. I couldn't quite figure out how to reach you on Skool. (I'm old, and technology is challenging for me. I remember when we got our first black & white t.v. True story!)

[@the33rdtruth7]

isn‘t it interessting how much effort our beloved skeptic mister West puts in to debunking every singel Video out there

[@ArtisanTony]

It's something he is interested in and good at. I have gotten to know Mick and think he is a good guy and we are lucky to have him doing the work he does. I have said many times that people like him and other skeptics will be the ones who force the hand of eventual disclosure. It will not be people who believe everything they are fed.

[@PeterBParker2398]

If he didn’t investigate people would drink crazy kool aid and believe anything shown to them, like believing the 10 foot aliens in Miami or the MH370 “teleporting plane” HOAX

[@the33rdtruth7]

well, im into UFO and Consciousnes Research since 89, and i heard and seen it all. And maybe i heard „Ballons“ a bit to often over the Years. It’s just my impression that People like West will never consider anything related to this Subject as real. Maybe im judging to harsh, its frustrating that we are still not further along with this Subject. Maybe im just getting to impatient 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@ArtisanTony]

@@the33rdtruth7 I think we are all getting impatient :)

[@CarloRossiTheGreat]

@@the33rdtruth7 "well, im into UFO and Consciousnes Research since 89, and i heard and seen it all. " Oh man as soon as I read this I knew you did not have a degree in hard science.

[@deerfeeder2076]

If you find the most clear part of the video near the beginning and slow it all down and freeze it youll see the big gray alien head(side profile), the alien leg and arm can be seen, the being is riding a vehicle of sorts, like a person riding a fast street bike. You can see one of the eyes, part of the other one on away from camera side. Thats a gray alien guys.

[@ALSNewsNow]

Mick West, aka "Mr. Wrong" henceforward. Whoops.

[@danielvilliers9294]

Thanks Michael for sharing your experience, and for Mick and Steven’s questions. The fact that the UAP travelled the same speed and direction of the wind provided sufficient evidence for me that this alien looking object is not exotic or otherworldly.

[@SparklesandBamboo]

That’s all it took? Some shoddy footage of a somewhat drifting flag is enough to prove it despite the fact that the object clearly kept a near consistent form and velocity?

[@SparklesandBamboo]

Not to mention the “trash bag” was not visible to the human eye. Only on radar. How about that invisible trash bag that never once flittered or changed course with the wind.

[@twolaneasphalt4459]

Ghillie suit, hmm. Or maybe a drone powered Dementor, which was first popularized during the 2016-17 time frame; that's, what it looks like! Oh, BTW, I'm a former intel insider!

[@ArtisanTony]

Are you really or just being facetious? :) If you really are, come on the show sometime.

[@twolaneasphalt4459]

@@ArtisanTony Spent nearly a decade in the IC as a CI analyst, 14 years in HS, and more decades than I care to recall in and around this environment.

[@ArtisanTony]

@@twolaneasphalt4459 I know you probably will not, but I would love to have you on the show sometime. You wouldn't have to have a camera and we could change your voice somehow? I would like to know your take on all of this.

[@nikkills5306]

Lies

[@nikkills5306]

Hmmmm and also do “drone powered dementors” submerge into water and shoot 45 degrees into the air faster than anything we capably possess

[@richardwarner3705]

Intelligent qualified people seriously discussing very interesting phenomenon, including a witness. And, I recognize Steve Greenstreet("The Basement Office"). Furthermore, bringing tech tools & experince to reveal new traits of the object; incuding flight path & altitude. Discovering that there are 2 objects, not just 1. Analyzing & detectiving till our eye's bleed. Doesn't get better then this. "FULL DISCLOSURE"🇺🇲⚖️👍

[@ArtisanTony]

Thanks for watching!

[@TISZALAEGERSZEG]

Ah so the all kinds of trained people of a joint operations base could not identify it for years, but thanks to some nerd we know it is a mylar celebration ballon! And guess what! He used fractions of the information avaliable to him!

[@ArtisanTony]

No, we are just hanging out talking about it. Why so serious? :)

[@ArtisanTony]

@@WaxPaper No one is claiming to be an expert but apparently you. And while they were humping it in a dangerous land, what were you doing? Watching social media and bitching? Gain some self awareness dude.

[@richardwarner3705]

It sure looks like it took a deliberate path over the base.

[@ArtisanTony]

Mick shows the path at one point in the video. I don't think it is directly over the path and it's perspective that makes it appear this way.

[@richardwarner3705]

@@ArtisanTony 🧠👍

[@ArtisanTony]

@@richardwarner3705 Thanks! :)

[@richardwarner3705]

@@ArtisanTony Did your comment section get a comment about killing a tank from me?

[@ArtisanTony]

@@richardwarner3705 Yes :) I was wondering how it came up :)

[@roccov1972]

This was a great video analysis. And I'm glad someone with some sense had Mick come on and show his findings. I know Corbell would never work with Mick, but if Corbell would just spend some time with someone who takes a more critical approach to these videos BEFORE releasing them to the public, we would have more credible sightings presented to us. Thanks for posting this video.

[@ArtisanTony]

Thanks, I have always liked Mick and they way he approaches things. And there is a reason they don't have him helping. Because they can not create drama if all of their videos are debunked before being sent out :)

[@twolaneasphalt4459]

Corbel Incorporated is only interested in cashing in.

[@WayneMacLean-lj8lb]

Mick obviously knows how to do forensic video analysis. Not just jump on a video and trying to put out it's aliens. Just finding the flag and the wind direction it is moving with and the spend of the object and direction. Is more effort then Corbell would ever have done. And the image going from light to dark. That can only be seen as why. Showing the object with the background at a distance. Not only close up as Corbell has shown. Then saying something like oh look at the heat signature. As if trying to convince his audience. It is a live being. When it's just the lens focusing in on the object. Many people from what I have read. Do not like Mick. But it is because they do not like things they believe to be true. Have more evidence against it having it be analysis more then just words. If more people did video forensic like Mick. Most videos would be proven to be not what they are being claimed to be.

[@WayneMacLean-lj8lb]

Mick obviously knows how to do forensic video analysis. Not just jump on a video and trying to put out it's aliens. Just finding the flag and the wind direction it is moving with and the spend of the object and direction. Is more effort then Corbell would ever have done. And the image going from light to dark. That can only be seen as why. Showing the object with the background at a distance. Not only close up as Corbell has shown. Then saying something like oh look at the heat signature. As if trying to convince his audience. It is a live being. When it's just the lens focusing in on the object. Many people from what I have read. Do not like Mick. But it is because they do not like things they believe to be true. Have more evidence against it having it be analysis more then just words. If more people did video forensic like Mick. Most videos would be proven to be not what they are being claimed to be.

[@drdaverob]

Corbell is mostly trying to get hype going. I'll retract if we ever see the video of the jellyfish shooting into the skies like he initially promised. He's the Todd Standing of uaps.

[@f.d.miller3903]

Another great episode Tony.

[@ArtisanTony]

Thank you!

[@danielboon1601]

Big Tony’s heating up 😂👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@ArtisanTony]

@@danielboon1601 haha

[@Emiegie]

I here for the military Guy. Graves still my huge crush but this one is looking good too

[@charlesvandenburgh5295]

Mick West is a much needed voice in videos like this. What would be important to see is the video of the object entering the water and then leaving at high speed as that would disqualify it as a balloon, assuming that part of the video ever existed. I suspect that part of story is likely false, but would be of real importance if it did exist.

[@ArtisanTony]

Michael said he does not think it enters and leaves the water as Corbel described. Thanks!

[@Timesend]

Very interesting

[@lc2c177]

Mick I think you’re better off doing experiments w CE5. At worst, you’ll capture the “flash bulb UAP” which appear as static stars flashing. Many people have captures these.

[@drdaverob]

What flavor ice cream do you think the aliens like? I think strawberry. How would we know? You seem to think you know what cloaking tech they might have. That's just as silly as the ice cream.

[@ArtisanTony]

We are just talking here. No one is making any claims. Calm down lol If you want to hear people who think they know everything, go to ufoX lol

[@skeeterman7144]

Anyone who listens to Mick knows he too wants to believe. Trouble is, everything he investigates doesn’t involve conjecture.

[@peg60606]

It's a bird with it's prey hanging from it's talons.

[@ArtisanTony]

haha, that's a smooth bird with no wings flapping :)

[@jimskeuh]

SO, my guess is that is was a jellyfish... wait, what?!

[@tommymyers3183]

Check out what Daniel Sheehan has to say on New Thinking Allowed.

[@inafieldmag]

Wow mick you really think this thing isn’t a smudge I’m surprised

[@Socket1923]

Are you certain you didn't just put sources and methods out publicly, or is this just theoretical?

[@ArtisanTony]

Everything said on the show is speculation. No one on the show knows all the facts. Sometimes my intuition is correct :) but I really don't know :) Which part made you say this?

[@Josh-f7t]

Ole Mick's on the payroll and honestly his debunking of "everything" is ridiculously getting old.

[@ArtisanTony]

Don't let objectivity scare you :)

[@75YBA]

Phew, I was worried there wouldn’t be a cheap Rasputin knock-off on the panel. That look always adds credibility to any discussion. 😂

[@ArtisanTony]

Be nice, Alexei is a smart guy and my friend :) and he is practically a guru :)

[@QuelTonis]

There is a report of a black jellyfish chasing a ship in the ocean for 18 minutes in 1954

[@ArtisanTony]

There are endless rabbit holes to go down. None of it brings disclosure any closer. It’s fun to talk about but it’s minutiae really

[@firefly6147]

This is great stuff. Pretty interesting group, asking the right questions, I think. Saying as one who wants it to be aliens, but cant just get myself to believe everything blurry is it. I like to see people dig in to these things, I like how Mick and Steven many times uncover "the bigger picture" in a way, I guess. And this is one of the coolest things regarding this subject, as one of the "witnesses" is been asked real questions from the POV of trying to understand what were lookin at honestly. Would love to see more like this👍👍

[@ArtisanTony]

Sometimes it seems we are being conditioned with these blurry videos so that when actual alien videos that are real are shown to us, they won’t seem real either :) they will almost seem AI generated due to the contrast of what they have dropped for years.

[@firefly6147]

@@ArtisanTony yeah possibly😅 I honestly think that if and when it is aliens, they probably look like our space probes or something anyway. Not necessarily doing an air show with crazy manuevers. But anyways, interesting stuff, thanks for this video👍👍

[@ArtisanTony]

@@firefly6147thanks for watching :)

[@mitsuracer87]

Why aliens? It's much more likely to be an ultraterrestrial NHI. There has been 350 million years between the ability to use fossil fuels and now. Plenty of time for a civilization(s) to develop to an extremely hi tech level many times over.

[@rondavidson8673]

I think we have whats called unidentified........ Everyone wants to see the bit where it goes into the water etc and like all the other videos, they always seem to leave u with more questions than answers, the fact that the base identified it as a threat makes it look like there's a there there but with the missing video it can't be verified beyond doubt, the 2nd video looks like it could be carrying something so who knows, it could be the cattle mutilator , I know that's a bit wild but one thing about this jelly fish video is that it's a bit wild so who knows

[@ArtisanTony]

Michael said it was NOT identified as a threat because I jokingly asked him why they did not shoot it down. If it had been identified as a threat, it would have been eliminated and you would have never seen any video of it. That might be why you are ot seeing the other videos. The marines probably dealt with it :)

[@rondavidson8673]

@@ArtisanTony I thought I heard corbell say that it was identified as a threat but they had problems getting a lock on it to shoot it down but we're relying on good faith and who u believe, too many ifs buts and maybes , I think there's more to come over this so we'll see

[@MamaMia84oo7]

Mick West legend. Enjoyed the conversation.

[@lc2c177]

Cordial. Well done.

[@ArtisanTony]

Thanks!

[@youmich]

Balloons 🤣

[@danielboon1601]

It’s definitely interesting but my first thought wouldn’t be aliens that’s for sure.I would be more concerned about it being a drone or balloons with an explosive payload attached.

[@danielboon1601]

But forensic experts with Peru’s prosecutor’s office have now revealed that the ‘aliens’ were actually just man-made objects. They stated that the figures were made from a mix of paper, glue and metal, as well as a mix of human and animal bones. “The conclusion is simple: they are dolls assembled with bones of animals from this planet, with modern synthetic glues, therefore they were not assembled during pre-Hispanic times,” Forensic archaeologist Flavio Estrada said. “They are not extraterrestrials; they are not aliens.”

[@danielboon1601]

No big surprise here

[@averybrooks2099]

Another low resolution video where we are looking for big foot. Even the Turkey video is better and more compelling. It's interesting, but this seems more like a weather phenomenon.

[@ArtisanTony]

Turkey video? What did I miss?

[@CarloRossiTheGreat]

@@ArtisanTony It's an old video of a cruise ship

[@jimskeuh]

that turkey video is wild. so wild

[@33bigmoney]

check a rendered version with a alien head on it

[@jmua8450]

So the U.S. military’s best and brightest and their billion dollar equipment couldn’t track balloons? 😂 horse shit.

[@ArtisanTony]

Michael was shown the video after the fact and was not the person responsible for tracking these objects. I think the military knows what the object is but just not telling. They leak these videos for counter intel purposes is my belief. So don’t give all marines a hard time because of a few who are doing what they are told by higher ups :)

[@DarkKnightCap]

Eid Muburak foil balloon set.

[@diycraftq8658]

I'm no longer a fan of greenstreet because he had a wonderful provocative non bias but certainly leaning to ufo type great KZbin show in which he recollect in great and magnetic detail his ufo sighting and now everyone seems to be full of shit Yes everyone is full of shit except the phenomenon is not so thats where I dont get his stance why the flip did he not see his ufo all those years ago or what

[@ArtisanTony]

You have to take each case and judge it for what it is. That is what objectivity is. Just because he doesn't agree this case is what you think it is, doesn't mean he will not accept credible evidence on this or other cases, which is what we are pushing for. Not fuzzy videos that divide all of us.