Pikes Peak - Driver’s Eye View - Part 2 - The Descent

[@Crosshead1]

I’m making this trip in May 2018. I was already looking forward to it but now can’t wait. But I’ll be taking my noise blocking earphones. Thanks for posting.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Thank you. I'm sure you will enjoy riding the Pikes Peak Railroad.

[@ybergik]

That'll be difficult as it seems to have closed indefinitely, perhaps permanently. I'm happy I got to take the train down in 2012 after hiking up Barr trail. Epic hike up, great train ride down.

[@jeanmetzger9359]

@@ybergik I heard they're reopening in 2021.

[@sandresstudios]

Thank you, this brought back many fond memories. I was an engineer on the cog in 71-73. It was a fun job during the summer but a bummer in the winter, that's when you did all the maintenance on the units. Thanks again, enjoyed it.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it, I can imagine the mountain is a difficult place in winter. I'm also an engineer (mold toolmaker), I find the various Swiss cog railways fascinating and I was interested to learn that the the units were from Switzerland, although the outline was a bit of give away.

[@sandresstudios]

When I was driving the units we only had four single units. After I left they upgraded to double units and also made a few sidings for units to pass. Before it was all trains go up and then all trains go down, once in the morning and once in the afternoon with one at night during midsummer.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

It must have been fun driving the units, especially with such dramatically changing weather. All the trains I saw on the day of my trip were full, so I guess the extra units were needed. Were people using the midnight train for star gazing or was it still daylight?

[@sandresstudios]

It was nice driving the units and seeing the wildlife, unfortunately it was a tourist business and therefore did not pay union wages, even though we had to pay the railroad retirement fund instead of social security.The evening unit had to be back down by sunset, so those trips were mostly done in late July and early August. I don't know if they ever changed that policy after I left. Did you ride in the double unit or a single?

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

Still pretty much the same, 5:20 arrives back around 8:30 and usually spots at the depot right as it gets "night". No longer railroad retirement though.

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

I have to tell you how very much I enjoyed this (and the Ascent video too)! When I was a young girl MANY moons ago, the old-timers talked about the "Big Three" vacation destinations -- Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, and Pikes Peak. Now, of course, America west of the Mississippi has developed uncountable places to go and see and enjoy. Now that I'm in less than the best of health, I'm going to scratch PP off my bucket list, thanks to your videos. Though it's not like being there, it's good enough for me, and for that I thank you so much!

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, thank you for your kind comment, I'm glad you enjoyed the ride.

[@mousetreehouse6833]

gomphrena -beautiful flower- I'm with you! Not a lot of money, and my health also keeps me away. These videos make this New Hampshire armchair traveller very happy (and I've never been to the Mt. Washington cog railway, either)! ☹️😱 (haha) God bless, Tim, and good luck with your next video!!

[@chucksandos8939]

Hi, Tim! Very interesting and original compact diesel engine, placed on roof of the train of this mountain train. And rail track itself gives the impression of a wide, but with rather thin and not very even rails, especially at station on the montain pass. Many thanks for this beautiful film!

[@barrypavey8547]

Chuck Sandos y

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi chuck, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, the track is standard gauge (1,435 mm (4 ft  8 1⁄2 in) and the rails do look light, probably because there are no heavy locomotives or high-speed trains requiring more substantial track. Even though the rails are a little uneven in places, the ride was generally good.

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

Not roof mounted here, they're underfloor.

[@chucksandos8939]

@James Patterson. Hmm... See please here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJWoaYSvmayFhs0 - at right, and here too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6CvlHiubpJ1etE - at top. What is it, if it's not diesel engine placed on roof?..

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

On the diesel hydraulics, radiator and exhaust, on the diesel electrics, radiator and dynamic resistor banks. I work for the company, engines are cummins 855 inline 6's mounted pancake style under the floor. Nothing fancy.

[@gerardgrzyb7267]

Rode this in 1978, then drove up a few days later--two different ways up the mountain on two different sides, ending in the same place. Can't believe it has been 40 years--wish I could do both again.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

it's scary how quickly time passes, a least you have done the trip, the line has closed since this video was taken and we can only hope the maintenance issues can be resolved to get it up and running again.

[@augustomachete1715]

Thanks for sharing. Enjoyed it.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Thank you.

[@paulchurch5929]

A great video as always!!

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Thank you.

[@johnlambe9869]

I like the view on this one.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Cheers, I'm glad you enjoyed the ride.

[@archviewcondominium8512]

I love trains and all the train talk from the train operator. Would love to ride in an engine. I also love steam engines. I rode my behind #4 when she was still operating

[@archviewcondominium8512]

Behind #4 that is. I hate predictive texts

[@Timsvideochannel1]

@@archviewcondominium8512 Hi, I've enjoyed trains all my life, filming them and riding them gives me a reason to go places. I looked up #4, you were lucky to ride with such a wonderful steam locomotive - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJC9eZmnosp0pqc

[@dieselbeema4255]

I'm sure the recorded commentary is useful - but drowned out by the life history of one passenger. Was he using a loud hailer . . . ?

[@Timsvideochannel1]

The passenger picked up by the camera just happened to be sitting near to it and was unaware it recorded sound, he did get a few interesting answers from someone with good knowledge of the line who was sitting near by, I'm can't be sure, but it may have been the driver he was talking to.

[@stevenherrold5955]

i wasn't paying no attention i like the scenery

[@donniegray553]

as in the first video, this is really awesome, With the exception of passengers being RUDE by talking when the conductor was giving info. Her voice projection just isn't loud enough to drown out passengers who continue to ignore her and kept blabbing on. Otherwise, I DID enjoy the scenery. TNX

[@Timsvideochannel1]

I'm pleased you enjoyed the scenery, the railway has been closed for two or more years to allow it to be revamped with new trains and upgraded track. It will be interesting to see if they introduce a driving cab with no forward view for passengers and a modern multi lingual headphone delivered commentary as has happened with so many other tourist attractions.

[@АлександрЛихачев-ч2о]

Красивая дикая природа, индейские места. Очень понравилось, спасибо.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Спасибо, я рад, что вы наслаждались поездкой.

[@royreynolds108]

At 18:02 the locomotive on the spur is one of the GE diesels used between steam and the Swiss cars.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

It is used by the engineers now.

[@heckinhecc6267]

Congrats on 25,000 subscribers, tim

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Thank you, I am really grateful to all the people who have subscribed.

[@heckinhecc6267]

I’m a subscriber and I am SOOO SO looking forward to you getting 1 million subs. Keep working hard. I know you can do it :D

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, thanks for the encouragement and subscribing, I don't think I'll ever make 1 million subs, but I am pleased with the way the channel's preforming.

[@heckinhecc6267]

I’m sure you will one day. Keep doing what you’re doing. Work hard and it will happen. All support is here. We are with you.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

I appreciate your support.

[@MikeSmith-ck8rp]

i miss colorado springs. loved riding this cog railway!

[@Timsvideochannel1]

It is a wonderful place and the cog railway is awesome, I can understand why you miss Colorado Springs.

[@MikeSmith-ck8rp]

@@Timsvideochannel1 Yeah i might moved back one day from washington lol

[@J3scribe]

What a tremendous view from on top!

[@Timsvideochannel1]

The views all along the line are stunning, its no wonder Pikes Peak is so popular.

[@J3scribe]

Indeed. Colorado is a magical place.

[@マックス大野-h1l]

Very good goal station movie thanks

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Thank you, I am pleased you enjoyed the ride.

[@krisiicc14]

Hello,Tim. I have a good virtual travel witjh pint of beer . Thank you,Tim.........Waiting something new.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hello Maris, I'm glad you enjoyed it and the pint of beer. I am working on the next video, it should be posted by next weekend,

[@donaldclifford5763]

I drove to the summit. A lot of driving. Was getting dark on the trip down. Cog rail looks a lot more enjoyable.

[@pega17pl]

Hello Tim, to me backride was more interesting because it great views. This time I noted most impressive views was at gorge scenery. - At summit gravel, down rocks, red mineral is called Pikes Peak granite called by location of first description. Mountain Pikes Peak consist almost entirely of this 1.08 billion old rock (Wikipedia). - Heinz

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hello Heinz, the return journey offers a completely different view, giving a better idea of the climb required to reach the peak. On the return, the gorge looked more dramatic than it did on the way up. Wikipedia is a great source of information, I use it a lot to check that my video descriptions are accurate.

[@christianmendoza2865]

Why is the top of the mountain so rocky where are the trees

[@Timsvideochannel1]

The top of the mountain is above the tree line, too cold in winter for them too grow. For more information, please click on this link - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_line

[@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102]

You can't exactly get this view on the new trains since the new Stadler trains have separated locomotives, though you do have an unobstructed view going uphill.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi Karen, sorry I've been slow to reply. The new Stadler trains must be like most conventional cog rail trains. I really wish I could be there in person, travelling to the USA isn't too much of a problem, it's the returning home that is difficult with two weeks quarantine being part of the deal. I really looking forward to life returning to normal. Take care. Tim.

[@carolyng651]

well everyone on the way down were talking forever...I love the view down

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, I'm pleased you enjoyed the view on the way down 😊

[@e020443]

This video is far superior to the one for the uphill journey. The views are better and lady singsong is much less in evidence. I found many of the comments the operator made interesting as well. Thanks for posting this.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Cheers, I'm pleased you enjoyed it, to be honest I prefer the downhill run for the same reasons as you, the view is much better.

[@josephfischer8266]

I wish the cameraman had gotten out and walked around the summit like the other passengers. I drove up once as a young man and still remember how dizzy I got from the thin air. Above 14,000 feet airplane pilots are required to use supplemental oxygen.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, I did take a walk around at the summit and the air was thin. I shot this video at the same time as the driver's eye views, this one shows the views from the top - kzbin.info/www/bejne/e32zmK2BqrJmoZo

[@geonerd]

Such tremendous visual beauty. :) Polluted with all that audio noise. :(

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, I'm glad you enjoyed the view, if I get the chance to shoot this video again, I'll hang the camera on the outside of the train.

[@pikeywyatt]

at the kitchen table Bexhill on sea thanks Tim,the first time i did Pikes Peak was on GT play station 3. this is much better.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi Tony, I'm just along the coast from you and the seafront looked pretty deserted today. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, it was an amazing trip.

[@RRRIBEYE]

btw...loved how the train smuk'd that marmot in the 1st vid...you could hear the cog-rail got a li'l quieter after some marmot-lube, LOL!

[@sakthivelkuppusamy5527]

I enjoyed the journey

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

Tim, if you're interested. I've uploaded this same view as filmed from the new stadler 4/4's on descent post rebuild.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Cheers, I'll take a look.

[@ojjenkins7110]

PART 2 IS BETTER FOR THE SCENERY. PIKES PEAK IS MY FAVORITE SPOT ON THIS PLANET. IF I COULD LIKE IT MORE I WOULD. THANKS FROM GREELEY CO. FOR ANY HAMS WATCHING THIS THE 146.97 AND 448.45 REPEATERS ARE ON THE PEAK. A BASE STATION FROM CHEYENNE WY AND RATON NM CAN HIT IT.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

I can understand why Pikes Peak is your favorite spot, it's an amazing place.

[@slycat1939]

Good video if driver would talk less so we could here the conductor lady describe the scenery --awesome view and nice video

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@carmium]

I didn't watch the trip down, because the sappy, smug, over-acted, simpering, hammy, and frequently corny narration was so abominable on the way up that I couldn't face it again. I'm just amazed that the operators think this would add to the experience of the traveler. I'd love to take the trip one day, but if I do, it will be with noise-blocking headphones and an iPod.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, there is less narration on the way down. I hope you get to visit one day, because it really is an awesome ride.

[@gregbotlin4446]

Yep, I couldn't do it either. Ugh

[@krisiicc14]

How lojg is that distance,Tim...

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, the line is 8.9 mi (14.3 km). For more information please click on this link - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitou_and_Pike%27s_Peak_Railway

[@nomon95]

No more long???sure?? if the train climbs 14500 feet,,=4,419km the gradient is very huge! 30 degrees!!

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

Depot is at about 6,800 feet in elevation, summit is 14,115. a little over 7,000 feet in elevation gain. Average grade is 16.5%, maximum is 26% on devils slide coming off the summit.

[@nomon95]

if the departure is ai this elevation ,the gradient is correct as your answer,,,my misstake is suppose the departure was at approx 0m .you have rhe reason. .

[@billy3424]

watching for more critters on the way down.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

It's always good to have something interesting to look out for 😊.

[@LuckyDawgProductionsModerator]

Wow!

[@Timsvideochannel1]

"Wow" is the word that came to mind as I rode this railroad.

[@nomon95]

The engines works as a brakes in this case,,, not using the mechaniocal brakes,,,for use the engines as a brakes,,a lot of huge resistors are used as electrical load,,,but this heat is high,,the resistors may be cooled,by a lot of air,or water.

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

in the case of the diesel hydraulics like this one it's a Voith Hydraulic retarder in the transmissions. Only the diesel electrics around here have resistor banks.

[@nomon95]

Ok,,,thanks for the info.. Daniel from Argentine

[@jacquesblaque7728]

And, electrical braking of the sort would be called dynamic braking, on a diesel-electric. With a "straight"-electric, motors on axles could be used as generators to send power back on the line. Still a lot of energy to dissipate. Those Voith transmissions must have massive heat-exchangers, up in thin air.

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

The Voith turbo transmissions just share the cooling loop for the engines. It's a Behr hydraulic assisted cooling system with a radiator on the roof.

[@neilforbes416]

At the 1 hour mark, just passed Minnehaha... Is that a "little laugh"? (mini ha-ha) LOL

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi Neil, I guessed Minnehaha might cause a little chuckle.

[@neilforbes416]

Wasn't that the name of a diminuitive Indian miss who was perpetually giggling? LOL

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Out of interest I decided to find the origins of Minnehaha, this is the explanation from Wikipedia - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnehaha

[@neilforbes416]

I'll check it out and get back to you by editing this comment - > I was joking about the native Indian woman though Minnehaha was a fictional character, as Wikipedia showed. Thanks for that! Cheers!

[@eyesdriver3772]

Part 2 on the map: mojatrasa.eu/video/193/pikes-peak-drivers-eye-view-part-2-the-descent/

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, I enjoy your website and thanks for including this video in your listings.

[@goldmole1]

Beautiful views, nice rough landscape. It must have been engineering on the edge to realise this track through all this rubble. Only downside is, it's diesel. Can' help disliking the black fumes. Well, that's just me.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

The engineers faced a tough challenge, but their efforts allow large numbers of people to enjoy the awesome views without damaging the mountain's delicate Eco system. Electric might be preferable, but installing and maintaining the centenary may well cause a bigger carbon footprint than using diesels.

[@royreynolds108]

When I rode the train in 2007 the M&PPCR used biodiesel for fuel. I can't imagine them changing back to oil diesel. I could smell the difference.

[@JamesPattersonGeepfan]

Running a blend of B20 right now, straight biodiesel around here is very hard to come by.

[@ojjenkins7110]

YEARS AGO IT WAS STEAM.

[@jacquesblaque7728]

Yeah, steam would be a major improvement. Just kidding. Between the sulfur oxides and the smoky shmutz, how could it be worse? Turbocharged 4-stroke diesel (Cummins) definitely.

[@mikeshearn8925]

Why is there a loud mouth in each crowd ?.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

I think the poor fella just happened to be close to the camera, unaware that it was recording his conversation.

[@mikeshearn8925]

Hope so.

[@stevenherrold5955]

well you have heard of the pecking order of chickens just like there is always an idiot show off in every crowd have you ever noticed how many stupid people there are every where ??? its crazy world ........ i saw one video on black friday two women are fighting over a vacuum sweeper at wal mart because they both want the same thing i'm like really !!!!!!

[@donniegray553]

18:50 in... Does that guy EVER SHUT UP?!!!! Geeze

[@Timsvideochannel1]

The camera was set up right next to him, he was just talking to the driver, unfortunately the camera picked up and exaggerated his conversation.

[@ernestjoyner1553]

nope, no guard rails on the road - not too many but there are some - My wife and I did the road trip in July, too bad the weather was not that great.

[@delboytrotter8806]

Bollox to this, walk it

[@Timsvideochannel1]

It's a long hike back down.

[@andreagubanski7815]

Eine Bahn die auf den Pikes Peak fährt. Dr.Mike und Sully würden sich im Grab umdrehen 😢

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Meine Güte, das ist eine Fernsehsendung aus der Vergangenheit. Ich denke, Dr. Quinn wäre sehr überrascht gewesen, im Jahr 1867 einen Zug zu sehen. Es ist so lange her, seit ich dieses Fernsehdrama das letzte Mal gesehen habe, dass ich es nachschlagen musste - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dr._Quinn,_Medicine_Woman_episodes

[@andreagubanski7815]

Die Serie läuft aber noch im TV. Und ich sehe sie sehr gerne. Bäh

[@Timsvideochannel1]

@@andreagubanski7815 Ich werde danach Ausschau halten, ich wusste nicht, dass es noch im Fernsehen gezeigt wird.

[@RRRIBEYE]

The driver comments that he couldn't let his girlfriend move and not be without her - so he followed her. Is her name "Sierra?" LOL (and did she go to the Disney World Tour Guide School of nonsense?)

[@realdoctorobvious]

I still like the conductor. Some of you guys need a chill pill.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

The line closed shortly after this video was taken to replace the trains and upgrade the track, I wonder if they will use a modern, multi language headphone system or keep the current format when it re-opens to passengers in the near future. I know which I prefer.

[@realdoctorobvious]

Timsvideochannel1 I hope it actually does reopen! I want to go, too! I like the personal touch of the live narrative, although I might feel differently if I didn't speak English. You could always have one car that's silent (no narrative) for those that would rather meditate or something.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

@@realdoctorobvious If you do visit Colorado, there are a number of wonderful railways all worth a look in, I joined a tour visiting the Railways of Colorado, it was one of the best tour groups I've had the pleasure to travel with. Most places I visit these days offer some sort of electronic tour guide, great for information in many languages, but lacking that human touch.

[@erikstein100]

thank god no music

[@crazygravy437]

Nice scenic strip to view. Spolier Alert - MUTE!

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hopefully when the line re-opens, I can shoot another video to replace this one.

[@Daniel.Gilpin]

me in uk it morning

[@sizumakamiru9479]

Lindo viaje, pero tanta conversación me dejó aturdida.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hola, me alegro de que te haya gustado la vista, voy a visitar este ferrocarril de nuevo, tal vez me permitan colocar la cámara en el exterior del tren.

[@sizumakamiru9479]

@@Timsvideochannel1 Eso sería genial porque se podrían ver bien los precipicios. Y cómo es un tren al que jamás me subiría (cómo no fuera atada de pies y manos), tengo que agradecerte muchísimo la posibilidad de hacer ese viaje. Esperando novedades ya me suscribí.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

@@sizumakamiru9479 Hola, hice 2 videos más mostrando este ferrocarril cuando visité - kzbin.info/www/bejne/e32zmK2BqrJmoZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJWoaYSvmayFhs0 Gracias por suscribirse, espero que encuentre más videos para ver.

[@chankarathilmathewshaji5906]

Silence please

[@borderreiver3288]

could have cut the boring chatter...music would be better...

[@Timsvideochannel1]

I can't win, when I substitute the original sound for music, people say "No" we'd rather have the original sound 😉

[@andreagubanski7815]

Ich dachte das wäre unter Naturschutz

[@beckyshock3099]

I want to go and take my telescope, and spend the night.......

[@donniegray553]

did this guy NOT know how to speak normally? Did he HAVE to shout every word out? Wasn't a minute in and I was already like "Shut the Hell UP!" "course he wouldn't have heard it, I know. But DANG, man!

[@Timsvideochannel1]

I think the guy you can hear was the driver talking to some of the passengers, he had to speak up to be heard, he had some interesting stuff to say and he wasn't to know the camera placed next to him would make him sound louder than he really was.

[@marycharro6191]

Sit way back

[@Timsvideochannel1]

and don't forget to buckle up :-)

[@Daniel.Gilpin]

morning it allways morning

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, it's late evening here in the UK.

[@Daniel.Gilpin]

not

[@joinjen3854]

Too much ambient noise. Cut that out and do your own narration.

[@Timsvideochannel1]

Hi, I always appreciate feedback, narration is something I can't make my mind up about. My trouble is that I don't like the sound of my own voice, there are times when I wish I had help and maybe someone to research and do the narration for me.