The Critical Drinker's 'Rogue Elements' and Bad Conservative Art

[@PillarofGarbage]

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[@joshv.1490]

@23:20 or so you say Christopher Hitchens where you mean Peter Hitchens.

[@MB-xp6oe]

@@joshv.1490 This guy totally reads Kant. You cannot question him.

[@liphrium9858]

DON'T PARTNER WITH HONEY ITS A SCAM

[@shabath]

Nah, I'd rather pay for a credible VPN, who doesn't blow their funding on yt ads.

[@AxelLloyd]

It’s almost like if you focus on being anti-woke first and characters second, you don’t actually make a movie you just make a big conservative ad.

[@joshuaewolf]

What's even funnier is it's the exact thing they accuse leftists of doing "putting politics before story"

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Has Drinker ever shown that he understands deep and varied characters? I only remember him glorifying paperthin stereotypes... whicch fits fabulously into that right wong Media bubble... didn't Ben Shapiro also write awful Thrillers with impersonal cardboard cutout "protagonists"?

[@joeavreg2254]

That sounds too woke to be a critique so I can ignore for a reason other than I'm mad you hurt my feelings.

[@DerekS-kq3zh]

It's almost like if you focus on ideology first, whether that be woke or anti-woke, you don't actually make anything other than propaganda.

[@bainbonic]

I actually have to disagree with that, some of the best stories in history have been written specifically to explore ideas and even politics first, the basis of telling stories is often in messaging. The problem is that the anti-woke crowd are inherently uninterested with higher ideas, don't want to be challenged to think hard about anything, and are openly uncurious about the world. It's not the message, it's the idiots writing it.

[@TheCommentingCat]

Funny how his life’s work gets turned into a movie and it turns out to be the thing that gets him the least views

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film...30mins

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 a bad 30 minute short film

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 its really funny how you keep posting this like it changes anything besides proving his fanbase doesn't actually know anything about film and cinema

[@fireworksfactoryshow]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291Okay. Crappy short film … 30mins of crap.

[@TheCommentingCat]

⁠​⁠@@algorithmicalychallenged.29130 minutes of a Jack Ryan ripoff with bad writing

[@The3gg]

I had no idea drinker was a grocery store book author. His channel makes a lot more sense now

[@Not_An_EV]

Yeah I've had the "joy" of reading one of his books and let's just say it's pulpy crap

[@ginidontthinkso4282]

Give us ghe hightlights of his stuff

[@Not_An_EV]

@ginidontthinkso4282 OK so the book I read was "Redemption" which was the start of his Ryan Drake series. I will try to remember as much of the plot as I humanly can but I will warn you most of my recollection of the book was complaining about how cliche it was and predclicting everything that came next so well I genuinely started to convince myself I was prophetic. So our book follows the authors James Bind x Jack Reacher love child Ryan Drake. An ex British army man who joins the CIA, because of crouse he does, as a (and I'm not making this up) Shepherd. He and his team find people. Especially those who don't want to be found! Because you know that's what shepherds do. They find lost sheep that don't want to be found. Now him amd his team get sent on a mission. Go get this woman have her back on is soil within 48 hours "but this turns out to be more dangerous than anything Ryan and his team have faced before" I'm sure this was an actual blurb on the book. So him and his team set off to go save the woman who's name starts with either an M or am N if I remember correctly. Cliche stuff happens along the way and they have to fight to get the girl then they get her. And it turns out she's also a government agent but not for the USA if u remember right. Then they naturally start to develop feelings for each other and along the way he learns that the us government was lying to him or some shit which males him run away with the girl instead and it seemed like the rest of the series was going to be focused on both governments tracking them down. It wasn't a bad book in terms of writing or spelling or anything like that it was just too cliche and pulpy for me to ever take it seriously. Its the sort of book I'd expect to find my grandfather reading in between watching black and white westerns.

[@tcaprecap1448]

all conservative critics run into this problem: they think creating art is as easy as disingenuously tearing it down, so they launch a movie/music project that starts with a bang but always ends with a self-pitying whimper as it gets torn to shreds.

[@kenon6968]

Honestly I don't think it's anything more complicated than an Uwe Boll type situation from people who are just far more cynical. Conservatives will consume conservative media as a point of honour, but it isn't even about the viewership unless like you get these flukes like God's Not Dead. The investors who fund people like Ben Shapiro aren't in the habit of losing money. tax incentives, loopholes and unnamed accounts are probably the more involved than any reptilian ideological beliefs they hold

[@MrPlannery]

See also: the various attempts at anti woke comedy

[@plixypl0x]

I think conservatives think good art is just technical: good technique = great art.

[@marykateandnoashley]

always hilarious when conservatives who make a living insulting other peoples’ art start making art themselves, and it is absolutely terrible.

[@pastlesandfish]

There's a reason why the arts is dominated by liberal/lefty people. Conservatives are shit at making art.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Indeed. Eric July’s Rippaverse is another great example of one of these goofballs not having any actual talent to back up the bold claims they were making previously about showing the big boys and girls in the industry how to make something that the audience will enjoy. 😂

[@DerekS-kq3zh]

Same can be said of all the lefties who have driven other people's franchises into the ground. If you actually look with open eyes, you might be surprised what you can learn from this.

[@twanbijpost9050]

Yeah, and Shad's shameless self-insert fantasy "novel"

[@daraghokane4236]

I want the guys from Cinema sins to try making a movie give them infinity money and full control see what we get. I just want them to have to try and make a film I can't sin

[@xhosagibran370]

It’s almost as if grifting isn’t an actual career outside of complaining.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 a bad one

[@Herobeans]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291so what, still 💩

[@shabath]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 He writes about as cucked characters as he himself is.

[@Theguyoverthere603]

I'm ashamed to say I watched drinker's videos dunking on the MCU on the regular and didn't really clock his rancid vibes until the Barbie movie came out. I listened to him basically say "they hate men they hate men!" over and over, thinking surely this is satire and he'll get to the actual media analysis soon. And then the video ended. Took a good hard look at who and where I watch media analysis videos from afterwards. Thank you for the wake up call, Barbie Movie.

[@Sl1mch1ckens]

Ah but you see that movie says patriarchy bad so they obviously hate men, now just close your eyes and ignore every other part of the movie that also says a matriachy would also be bad lol

[@liamannegarner8083]

Legitimately, I spent a long time before I realized the conservatism wasn't part of the joke of a guy drinking while he kvetched. Of course that's the way people complain while drunk, isn't it a joke?

[@grafknives9544]

It is quite common. I also enjoyed critical drinker in the past. Because I was sure he was satire on those overly "straight" and conservative views.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film....

[@aaronsmith1474]

MCU hate grifting is always a red flag

[@fulcrum6760]

The funniest part is that Drinker realize his movie is and deliberately buried it. There’s a reason why the BTS footage is on a secondary channel. He saw it backfire.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Or its short film with the tittle proof of concept

[@fulcrum6760]

@ I’ve seen movies made by KZbinrs who are made from a shoestring budget.

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 its still bad

[@nunpho]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 gotta love a tittle

[@chrisvisser-fee2631]

​@@nunphodid you know that's what you call the dot on the lower case i? And on the lower case j? Also a tittle.

[@soledreamer2007]

The Critical Drinker: "Oh yeah? Well, I'm gonna make a much better movie than those woke directors, with blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the movie and the blackjack! Oh, just forget the whole thing."

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film....with the title proof of concept.

[@fireworksfactoryshow]

⁠@@algorithmicalychallenged.291Crappy short film … with the title poop of concept.

[@SeanMcD-gn2cl]

Critical Drinker realizing its much easier to shit on peoples stuff than create your own film lol what a dork

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film

[@SAVarXX]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 bad short film

[@samdonohue252]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 are you a a spam bot

[@HALLish-jl5mo]

I think a lot of his analysis is actually pretty good. I don't agree with his politics, but anyone trying to insert politics into a story tends to ruin the story. Either you already agree, in which case it's a bit dull, or you don't, and it's infuriating. A lot of fiction is produced with the mindset of "when they see this they'll know I'm right!", and that invariably detracts from the enjoyment of the work for the 99.9% of people who don't reevaluate their world view. The only exceptions I can think of didn't try to directly make me think a certain way, just view the subject differently (starship troopers the book is famous for this. Nobody agrees with it but it's very informative as to why you disagree). It's amusing he wasn't able to pass the same critical lense over his own script, but I've dabbled enough with writing to know that one's own work is a massive blindspot.

[@shabath]

@@SAVarXX Bot, do not interact with.

[@Yvädastra]

Never trust the insights of a person who brands his intellectualism with his drinking problem.

[@kolinkomita2975]

Unless they're a lanister.

[@gapsule2326]

​@@kolinkomita2975or a slav

[@Snake-x1t]

More like don't trust cringe conservative grifters on youtube. I'll stick with actual artistic drunks. Bukowski, Hunter S Thompson, Orson Welles, Townes Van Zandt. The classics.

[@pw6002]

Not even sure he's a real alcoholic. I mean, I don't wish him to be ! But just to say that his whole persona... is just a persona.

[@isaganipalanca8803]

You mean pseudo-intellectualism.

[@noriyakigumble3011]

Call me Anti-Woke the way this movie had me falling asleep 🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@SocraTetris]

A point that CJ the X made recently i think. It's reproduction, but without the ability to question the status quo and from which come up with a new idea. That reproduction thus inevitably lacks what made the original resonate, or even if done well fails to capture interest as people have already seen it

[@PillarofGarbage]

sounds pretty bang on, yeah man I gotta catch up on CJ

[@Theguyoverthere603]

Mr. Warframe philosophy man spotted in the wild :O

[@eko9554]

I find it funny how Drinker reviewed Wicked. If he watched any broadway musicals especially they’re made in a blue state, he would lose his mind how many of them are lgbt including the culture.

[@Afgrahamistan]

He probably saw that one South Park episode and thought it was serious.

[@IllisiaAdams]

He's seen the live show.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

He said hebliked both...cute try.

[@qasimahmad6748]

He lit said he liked wicked. It is fascinating how you always move the Goalpost or r incredibly bias which literally destroys any merit of your arguments against him.

[@callumholland8932]

Brother he's from Scotland one of the most diverse places to ever exist, there has been drag shows in Glasgow since the 1800s ii could go on look at all the Scots on drag TV like pauls, but you are being blatantly disingenuous, if you think LGBTQ people don't hate DEI woke crap than you are dilusional...

[@phaIIicaIIyimpaired]

This is like the entertainment industry version of Sargon running for a UK government position back then. Comedic to witness, at least.

[@Accountthatexists]

Wait are u telling me the guy who main critique with movies is that there "woke" cant write a "good" movie🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film.

[@MisterDoobs]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 small weiner.

[@SAVarXX]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 you say this like being a shortfilm is why its bad.

[@SAVarXX]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 ya op, he can't write a good short film. get it right

[@chetmanley1885]

​@@algorithmicalychallenged.291so he had even less to do and still couldn't?

[@deadmanthehekatonkheire994]

Okay, now I want to watch a long-form video titled "The Critical Drinker Made a Terrible Stinker".

[@dinadina2000]

Be the change you want to see

[@cosmicspacething3474]

*made a critical stinker Cause critically, it stinks

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Short film...30.mins.

[@ryantalley5284]

Make it then.

[@benjisaac]

@@algorithmicalychallenged.291this one didn’t even say anything implying length why did you put your stock comment here

[@dudewithachannel1163]

This ladies and gentlemen is why people like Drinker aren't working in Hollywood and leech off of it instead

[@justpassingby298]

I don't think saying Hollywood is good is any better

[@josephang9927]

Hollywood is decaying, tho. Foreign and independent films in streaming are taking over.

[@dudewithachannel1163]

@justpassingby298, well yeah but spreading conspiracy theories like Hollywood hiring women and minorities to use as pawns against white men doesn't sound like something a "film critic" would say either lol

[@dudewithachannel1163]

@@josephang9927, yet Drinker almost never discusses foreign films, Korean films for example are leagues more feminist than Hollywood. But Drinker won't discuss them because they're not mainstream. This is why his film sucks, he doesn't actually understand the elements of a good movie :P

[@dudewithachannel1163]

@@justpassingby298, well yeah but spreading conspiracy theories like women and minorities are hired to be used as pawns against white men doesn't sound like something a "film critic" would do either lol

[@theycallmejojo6090]

You know damn well he is going to be soft on the Daily Wire’s version of Snow White all because it has Ben Shapiro’s gender swapped clone in it.

[@maidingermany]

Brett Cooper has left DW, so I doubt that movie will be made.

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

​@@maidingermany I missed that. What happened? I mean, I doubt working for DW (with Matt Walsh especially) is very pleasant as a woman...

[@maidingermany]

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation There are several assumptions, and the DW give her a nice good by, but many believe she has enough, want more time for her privat life or make her own thing. Time will tell.

[@peachy_lili]

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Brett seems to have willingly unmoored herself from the DW brand for her own personal reasons, they're keeping any drama hushed up if there is any

[@michaelahurt]

Probably not. His reviews of conservative movies haven’t exactly been complimentary. He plays up the woke stuff but his reviews aren’t particularly ideological. If something is good or the pandering elements don’t matter - like Prey - he’ll say so.

[@acemagalor2519]

I think the channel Some More News did an excellent dissection on why media from modern online conservatives just isn’t well put together on both narrative and technical levels when they reviewed Lady Ballers. A lot of it lacks technical skill (i.e. directing, editing, cinematography) and is really just derivative of other work without any substance backing it up. It’s basically slop as described in your previous video. It’s like mush that’s molded to look like a five star meal

[@spacedoutcowboy5211]

Lady ballers was slop molded into a happy Maddison film and they still couldn't make it funny

[@SinisterTom-o2t]

Both liberal and conservative stuff are like this, more about trying to convey a personal opinion rather than an actual story

[@Jonny-uu7wf]

You would think that a man that spends his time criticising bad writing on the internet would have remembered to include a plotline.

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

4:20 Now that I think about it, Will probably just really liked the score from the Dune films and desperately tried to get someone to replicate it, forgetting that the score barely correlated with the themes and style of the film its being attached to.

[@JamesTullos]

I'm honestly disappointed that conservatives can't seem to make good art anymore. People like Tom Clancy used to write some kickass thrillers, now all we've got is unimaginative drivel that repeats some variation of "I HATE THE WOKE" over and over again.

[@somik-i3x]

Hating something isn't a good creative force.

[@PillarofGarbage]

Rudyard Kipling springs to mind. One of the worst imperialists, one of the best (children’s?) novelists. You have to check yourself constantly & push back against the text as you read something like Kim, or Puck of Pook’s Hill, but still - what a storyteller!

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Fuckin Tolkien was a conservative. How did we get here???

[@MisterZimbabwe]

​@@cosmicspacething3474they aren't the same type of conservative as the ones we have now. If anything, Tolkien was considered progressive for his time considering his complete lack of racism in his words and deeds. No, big monied interests and large media apparatuses have semi conspired to propagandize the public over the last 40 years or so, and has caused our concept of conservative to shift even deeper into lunatic conservatism.

[@Snake-x1t]

​@@cosmicspacething3474 unlimited growth! The growth is infinite! Line go up forever! This can't possibly go wrong!

[@firstlast9846]

*This is what happens* when you complain about the “Current State of Movies” then all you watch are Superhero/Franchise movies and complain that Hollywood has gone to shit. He’s hailed himself as a Elite Cinephile and you can tell when he finally gets to talking about it that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

These people wanna see something ACTUALLY BAD??? They should watch: Birdemic Shark Exorcist Zardoz Santa Claus Conquers the Martians Turkish Star Wars …And then come back to me and say that The Acolyte is the worst media ever produced.

[@Lechef53]

Didn’t he call Parasite a Japanese film or something similar? Either way, he has no passion for film or art whatsoever. He only cares about money and “sticking it up the wokes and libs”, which is a reoccurring theme in conservative film and art and why it’s shit.

[@Lechef53]

Didn’t he call Parasite a Japanese film? Either way, he doesn’t care about film or art in general. He only cares about making money and “sticking it up the wokes and libs”, which is a common theme of conservative film companies and productions. It’s no wonder why they’re shit and forgotten quickly.

[@Lezzyboy87]

​@Coroplocs-Chameleon What aboutism doesnt stop drinker being shit

[@samuelbarber6177]

Notice how these guys who claim to love cinema (or whatever intellectual property they think is “ruined” now) never actually discuss elements of it they do like? Almost as if they don’t actually like it and just want an excuse for why they’re angry all the time.

[@benwasserman8223]

I guess it’s true about art: those who can’t do…. whine excessively about how all successful media/IP has become woke and why it angers them so.

[@osirisatot19]

They don't make those videos because they can't make art, they make those videos to farm rage for clicks and money; they just also suck at making art.

[@patcho7518]

@@osirisatot19it may come from a point of jealousy.

[@ldcg106]

The same could be said about those who think certain IPs are "problematic" or that they "need to reflect the world we live in today" or want to adapt them for a "modern audience".

[@UltrafalconVX7]

Maybe if he focused on making a good story and not "The Message"

[@ldcg106]

If only Hollywood did the same, this movie wouldn't have been made.

[@celldh0825]

I heard “DA MESSAGE” in that echoey tone he uses in his videos when I read that

[@habrasil]

@@ldcg106 but a lot of money wouldn't be made either. They want money, not good stories, just like the loser writer!

[@ldcg106]

@@habrasil And lately they aren't getting much of either.

[@benjisaac]

@@ldcg106 You guys have commented something like this on most threads in this comment section. You do realize how “he made this movie to criticize how hollywood prioritizes the message over the story” makes it *worse* that he did that exact thing, not better?

[@TheLongestTake]

and to think he has the arrogance to make video likes "The Drinker Fixes Alien Romulus". He can criticize all he wants but nothing I've seen about him as a writer tells me he's good at writing.

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

Really does prove “Those who can’t create critique”

[@johnglue1744]

Well to be fair Romulus sucks too.

[@TheLongestTake]

@@johnglue1744 absolutely not, lol. They shouldn't even be in the same conversation.

[@johnglue1744]

@ why not? Two shitty movies.

[@TheLongestTake]

@johnglue1744 one is miles above and beyond the other. Spoiler alert - Alien Romulus is better than anything CD has touched thus far. Cool, you don't like it. That's great but the overall consensus of critics and audiences alike enjoyed it.

[@Faction.Paradox]

Isn't "Bad Conservative Art" a tautology?

[@PillarofGarbage]

sometime tautologies can make for snappy titles :)

[@stilltoomanyhats]

'Bad conservative' is a tautology, 'conservative art' is an oxymoron.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

​@@stilltoomanyhatstauxymology then.

[@ethanlivemere1162]

​@@stilltoomanyhats And together they're a "tautol moron"

[@Zorae42]

​@@stilltoomanyhatsConservatives do make art. It's not good and shallow - just like their thinking, but it is art

[@samuelbarber6177]

Okay, so I don’t believe that to criticise art, you need to be able to make great art, but it is bloody hilarious whenever someone who makes their living off of crapping on someone else’s art gives it a shot and completely falls flat on their arse. Like Ben Shapiro’s attempt at writing thrillers.

[@MrTARDIS]

I am legit curious as to what The Drinker's supposed influences were for this movie, considering when asked for examples good recent Japanese movies he could only stammer out 2003's 'Oldboy'.

[@Frithonor]

Drinker writes "Lone wolf hardass tactical operator" fiction. Tom Clancy pastiche. Poorly.

[@Swordsman1425]

​​@@FrithonorEven then, as conservative as Tom Clancy books are, the man did his research on what he wrote about, at least on a technical level. (To the point that at one time the feds thought he had unauthorized access to military schematics, they were so accurate) And that takes a lot of work to get to that level and have the average reader still enjoy themselves. Drinker is clearly not looking into the why of why Tom Clancy became such a prolific brand name, but just copies without understanding.

[@ActuallyAnanya]

Does he realise that Oldboy is Korean? Also he'd probably call the same director woke for making The Handmaiden.

[@tobiaslawrence8928]

Honestly you start to see why most these conservative commentators all failed to breakout in Hollywood.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

They'd have failed in a Kentucky community College ..

[@samuelbarber6177]

All makes sense now, don’t it. They fail in the industry because they suck, and then they just become bitter and angry all the time.

[@MrMarcusIndia]

Hm, now that you mention it, didn't Ben Shapiro's attempted career as a Hollywood screenwriter crash and burn into a massive lake of excrement?

[@maxtracker2904]

You should have a look at the Conservative book (I think called “Trgger Warning”?) that Jenny Nicholson once reviewed. The way the protagonist was randomly attacked on campus by Antifa ninjas at least twice 😂

[@Slysheen]

Also never forget how Big Jake is.

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

I thought it was gonna be Children of Slop but no!!! Time to grab the 🍿

[@PillarofGarbage]

Chapterhouse Slop when

[@robsolf]

Looking for Steven Seagal sitting in a chair somewhere in the background.

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

Conservatives can't do art or culture because art/culture is based on a kind of Hegelianism; questions and answers and the interogation of those answers into new questions endlessly. Art is a process, it must be open, pull from different things, be curious, be introspective, empathic etc. Conservatives merely want to restate or repackage spite and hierarchies. They lack any interest in or ability to, reflect or share; they seek only to declare, to demand, to fix in place what by its nature is always moving. Everything they do is derivative or hacky because original thought or sincerity is a little too close to humanity for them, which is the thing they always seek to avoid because at their core, conservatives fear or are disgusted by, humanity.

[@ldcg106]

Then how come modern Hollywood keeps making consistent and abysmal garbage when it is mostly devoid of conservatives?

[@thetommydLuffy]

Spot fucking on

[@habrasil]

Nah, bro, Vargas Llosa is a great author and a pratically-fascist conservative. But dumb people with no talent can't do art, that's for sure and I'm glad this youtuber is proving the point!

[@garrgravarr]

Got dam. I kinda wish I was this incisive and eloquent. I suspect I would be far less capable of enjoying pure pap if I were though...

[@callumholland8932]

Have you seen Japan my god the dilusion hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahaha....

[@ianobrien3248]

I bet he didn't think Estonia was really real, lol

[@PillarofGarbage]

isn’t Estonia where Dr Doom is from?

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

​@@PillarofGarbageLatveria i think. Although bezween Marcel, Dc and Mission: Impossible you've practically a scrabble dictionary of "almost real fake states in Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia" to use ...

[@joeavreg2254]

A nameless CIA division called "The Shepherds"? That seems a bit contradictory.

[@jamesmaxwell1940]

I think the idea is that "shepherds" is an unofficial nickname, but it was still pretty funny reading the sentence "nameless group called XYZ"

[@DoctorBiobrain]

One problem with rightwing culture warriors is that they think they’re the main character and that all entertainment should be made for them. The idea that different people have different taste offends them. A movie is good if they like it and bad if they dislike it. So it’s no surprise that their books/movies are really personal and bad since it’s only meant for them and they don’t even know how to write for other people. And they typically first decide beforehand if a movie is good or bad based on subjective criteria and then look for justification. If they dislike a movie, they will spend all their time looking for things to complain about even if they’re wrong because they were so focused on mistakes that they couldn’t follow the story. If they like a movie, they turn off their brains before it starts and attack anyone who criticizes it.

[@callumholland8932]

Agreed but f the ones who take over established IPs and studios

[@callumholland8932]

And if you want to see good conservative art and story's just look to japan, all western media is meh these days

[@seanfooch6475]

I feel like the drinker just doesn’t understand movies in general, and has this own self-fantasising view of what a “movie” is, and rouge elements proves it He keeps preaching about “fixing” films when he can barely make a somewhat ok film himself.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Well fixing doesn't mean making the movies good, it means turning them satisfactorily intolerant as by his standards... ("dewokeing")

[@Ennio444]

Years ago I was talking about the Critic and a friend noted that "he only likes old films, but it's not that he dislikes new ones. He just doesn't like change". I'm glad to find a much deeper wording of this very sentiment here.

[@robsolf]

There's nothing in this film that counters any of the actual filmmaking issues he complains about. It takes a swim in them, tbh. I suppose his rule that a movie can't have anywhere near as many women as men in it is upheld. Didn't seem to change the quality much, to no one's surprise.

[@TSDTalks22]

>”nameless cia operatives” >named Shepards Someone screwed up here

[@narem1092]

none of his friends talked about it lol, even Jesse Grant

[@PillarofGarbage]

Jesse Grant is the king of Goober Thumbnails

[@kinyemibola4386]

The difference with channels like this and the grifters is that I actually learn about things. I’m no avid reader or film buff but I like to learn something new. Bravo POG

[@daviddaltrey714]

Glad you mentioned B1rdman and Josè in this video. Also, I wish you happy holidays as well. 🎄

[@PillarofGarbage]

and you! 🎅

[@unfrogettable9495]

Time to pin "Conservatives are bad at art" next to "Conservatives are bad at sex"

[@DeltaNovum]

Go and look up the correlation between "brain structure" and "political orientation". Its a very interesting rabbit hole. People that lean conservative tend to look for an authoritarian "daddy" to tell them how to think and act, have less room for empathy, have a greater reaction to fear, and have greater difficulty with critical thinking, to just name a few. When you look at what different studies of brainscans have found, A LOT of stuff suddenly makes a lot of sense.

[@callumholland8932]

Dilusion

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

"Bad Art " and "Conservative Art" are somewhat synonymous.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Not all bad Art has to be conservative though... even if it's almost a venn diagram in point shape the other way round...

[@kasaibouF29]

What would you consider conservative art?

[@ΓιάννηςΜεταξάς-ρ5φ]

​@@kasaibouF29garbage like Drinker's Stinker for one. Or anything that comes from the DW

[@callumholland8932]

My good like ten of these comments from racists or ignorance, I know you nuked them but they have blessed us with the greatest art to ever bless the planet, mad grifter yt complaining about a grifter... Go away now.

[@blitzburn2871]

Critics transitioning into creation regularly run head first into the issue that the ability to discuss art and create it are often very distinct skills. Drinker can be a decent critic and identify the reason why certain scenes or movies flop, when he is sincere. But he has pivoted to pandering to a crowd that wants to be told that Hollywood is run by a woke-cabal that is ruining movies by pushing "tHE mEssAge!" and he pivoted so hard that it is undermining his critical skills, and this combined with the issues good-faith critics face means that he was pretty much set up for failure from the onset.

[@XellithUS]

I remember the drinker advertising his new book and it sounded like the most generic Tom Clancy spy thriller political espionage copycat. I was not impressed then, and I'm not impressed with this.

[@yesthatpaul]

3:29 Wait, they're nameless but also called The Shepherds?

[@selunescorpio]

The Critical Drinker can’t even write criticism of media without calling it “woke,” centering his entire issue with the modern media around right wing culture war talking points. There was no way any movie he made was going to be good.

[@thatjosiahburns]

300k for that. Good god.

[@PillarofGarbage]

pounds, also. so considerably more than 300k usd

[@TheCommentingCat]

Could have made an actual good show/movie with that amount of money

[@Coroplocs-Chameleon]

@@TheCommentingCatWho Killed Captain Alex was made with $85, and that film is so unironically good!

[@aureliodeprimus8018]

My father always said to me as a kid: "Don`t give money to homeless people, they only buy alcohol from it.". I wonder if i will say to my children: "Don`t give money to people on the internet or they will become like The Critical Drinker."

[@dntthe88]

Didnt know he wrote a series of extremely generic military fiction novels and suddenly everything about his taste in movies makes so much fucking sense.

[@TalesNT]

Ironic when you pause to read the comments @6:15 and his viewers are calling him out for the woke DEI movie.

[@littlebigmarc]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Fucking comedy

[@ADM.II.]

😂

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

I wonder why he fakes being Scottish

[@Leahcimmichael]

He probably wanted to work for Vince McMahon

[@JM-mh1pp]

Estonian separatists? What do they want to separate from? Estonia is independent country...

[@Reptil3]

Well, Estonia probably. Just like those fake republics in Ukraine.

[@celldh0825]

Maybe they want to separate FROM Estonia?

[@cartilagehead]

@3:49 I literally thought he was breaking into song here for a second, my word what an enunciation choice

[@sterilustra]

Funny how he dedicates his life to criticize Hollywood for making "forgettable, woke/preaching first, no story crap", and yet when he gets the chance to show the world his critiques are not shallow, that he knows what he's talking about, that he can teach the big, "political fueled, agenda pushing bigots of Hollywood" how to do art, he can't seem to even live up to his own standard, as you say, I'm pretty sure you could take voice clips from his own channel, organize them on top of clips of his movie and you'd get a full "critique" suggesting the movie is just another "woke slop" piece of shit.

[@kenlee4356]

The acting in this movie just screams steven seagal movie with steven seagal edited out of post

[@SemiIocon]

I'll give him this, at least he didn't pull a Somerton and actually released the short film he crowdfunded.

[@maidingermany]

Is anybody really surprised? The books are god awful garbage which only his Fans likes, a sad rip off of Jason Born. This man can't write a propper story if his life depends on it, he's just the typical grifter without a spark of talent.

[@lesser8531]

As an Estonian, I am very confused as to what the "Russian backed Estonian Separatists" are supposed to be.

[@Murmarine]

Like, separate from what, exactly? Its so confusing for no reason.

[@PillarofGarbage]

Right?? Nuts

[@stuartpenman6387]

AWAKE TO EU AGGRESION?

[@stuartpenman6387]

@@PillarofGarbage thanks for showing you made a video on a film you didn't understand

[@PillarofGarbage]

no problem pal 👍

[@MayleneMadman]

So this was a grift. Raise money, pay themselves, slap cheap shit on film, walkaway with the money Edit: "You better take a look at this" in a book. No, he didn't. That can work in film because you can show the audience before the characters and build tension. But it is still lazy as shit.

[@osirisatot19]

It is so funny to see people like him and Shad just shit the bed completely while all they do is critique media; I love that they keep getting egos big enough to think they can do better, and then falling flat on their faces.

[@JustinMohareb]

I thought he was gonna call it "Brogue Elements". That would have been clever.

[@JohnSmith-rm1po]

So his "Estonia" is basically just Ruritania, except that he didn't even have the decency to file off the serial numbers.

[@PillarofGarbage]

exactly this

[@markstrike-y1g]

Bad movies. At least I can somewhat respect him and Young Rippa, since they created their own stuff (albeit it's still cringe). But at least it's better than just complaining about wokeness 247 online everyday. At least do something about it. Even if your product ends up being bad.

[@muppet3901]

The problem with popularists, of which the right is vomitting them out at the moment, is they have to deliver when they get power. Then... then it goes bad and fast.

[@kmaginn]

10:44 drake, frost and dietrich? did he copy all his names from Aliens, presumably for their ambient badass credibility?

[@ggunnelspct]

I watched exactly one of his videos. The discussion of “Prey” before it came. He made a bunch of noises about warriors in the indigenous communities of North America as if he knew anything about the subject. It struck me that he’s a Scottish guy who has not even cracked open an introductory text on these cultures.

[@chetmanley1885]

You could apply that to anything he talks about

[@jkfecke]

This is basically if Tim Heidecker's "Decker" series was made seriously.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

The name is also so awful it's even grammatically incorrect

[@ATBatmanMALS31]

Huh, turns out tearing shit down is harder than building it up. It doesn't change the value of criticism, but it does show exactly what the agent of said criticism doesn't know.

[@ATBatmanMALS31]

That point got made enough to make my contribution useless... 😐

[@The_Local_Goose]

10:44 why are all of these names the names of marines in aliens (1986)

[@DB-ku7vu]

Its ironic that he fell into the same trap as the media he criticizes. Politics at the expense of a good story.

[@juniorf.g2860]

Aren’t these the same people preaching good stories, good characters and no politics being shoved into their faces 😭 🙏

[@anthonypc-248]

It's a lot easier to be a hater than a creator of good stories. Maybe that's not a lesson he needed to learn but he's obligated himself to put out the hateful content he's gathered a following around. Not like he can drop the character and start being the fair-minded humbled drinker lol

[@Yarghvid]

Ah, yes. Drinking and talking, the two most impressive skills a man can have.

[@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780]

"Russian-backed Estonian separatists"? Dude... I wasn't aware I'm watching a highfalutin' fantasy movie here. I don't think I've read a single more idiotic movie premise in my entire life and the problematic part is like 4 words long. How does your boring, wanna-be action movie schlock have a more ridiculous premise than the Emoji Movie?

[@nebufabu]

The biggest problem in modern media is that a writer following an intermediate-level writing guide would produce slop neither I nor anyone else should have any interest in, and not following it would get the work review-bombed, even if it's genius, simple because most criticism nowadays (even not from the likes of Drinker, but from them especially) is just verification the work conforms to some intermediate-level writing guide a critic read and took for gospel truth.

[@MC-lm7de]

16:00 "journeyman's dedication to the expected" is a BAR

[@Alex-cw3rz]

The movies not good, I guess the drinker must be woke then...

[@Advent3546]

A KZbin guy who talks shit about other people's movies and making a bad movie project. Name a better combination

[@GrimReader]

The high camp of the Ryan Drake books are a thing of beauty and that he counts Cormac McCarthy as an influence is hilarious

[@Tacom4ster]

"Save The Cat" and Joseph Campbell's books are also terrible on writing

[@jamesmaxwell1940]

They're decent for teaching fundamentals to beginner writers just getting started on their craft, but writers like Critical Drinker seem to treat it like a hard and fast set of rules that must be followed to achieve "good storytelling"

[@clowncollegefam]

Another video on the critical drinker? yay! One of my favorite alcoholics ngl

[@geronimojones2]

Hey I don’t comment often but this was super interesting. I love videos that try and analyse things through the lens of someone’s work. My recommendations are mostly videos about sone thing that happened somewhere and it’s getting tiring

[@PillarofGarbage]

glad you liked it! hopefully my next few videos will be interesting in a similar way 👊

[@Kriseiri]

Drinker? I hardly know her

[@jwnj9716]

Not surprised.

[@dr_volberg]

13:15 I bet that someone just saw this pretty good shot in their head - it's Estonia, but there is a Soviet star at the same time, it's thematic. And just went with it. I just wish they spent a little more time on it. The start looks fake, even though it is real, and there is a parking house just near that intersection, so they could have sold the audience on this establishing shot.

[@piotrd7355]

The very name of the main character sounds like it came from a generator of flimsy Tom Clancy clones.

[@Crowz0xx]

Online critic tries making movie, Movie stinks, No one is surprised. It’s much easier to criticize than it is to create. Especially when you suck at both things

[@netanelaker4437]

If wokeness is bad because it's political and therefore destroy movies (a position which I kinda agree with), then anti-wokeness is bad because it's political and therefore destroy movies (a position which I kinda agree with). It's almost like The Drinker's position is really "political is good as long as it's agree with me".

[@gur262]

Problem being that these folks ramp up what counts as woke, just as Republicans radicalized to the point where they'd say a black guy and an Asian guy working with Dexter was woke. If only Dexter was really bad. Plenty not woke films that happen to be bad get their badness blamed on having women or non white people in them.

[@daraghokane4236]

Everyone's stance is politics I agree with is good, politics I disagree with is bad. If I don't think my politics were good I would not agree with them

[@alexlewis5365]

I disagree that it's politics ruining everything. You can have great movies that are either left leaning or right leaning. Greed is primarily what's ruining all art.

[@yungmuney5903]

You can't separate politics from movies, cause otherwise what story are you even telling?

[@daraghokane4236]

@@yungmuney5903 A story of a person you don't have to agree with that person. Like imagine a movie about a killer on death row and he is asking the priest for forgiveness, we flash back see his childhood she how and why he did what he did, but he is lying and the story is not consistant. A message of that film can be the death penetly should not exist. But the story is just a guy asking God and himself can I be forgiven for what I have done. And there is no answer. If you wanted to say the death penalty is bad and criminals are human you should not have made a movie you should have made a pamphlet . Im sure this movie exists

[@misterbrit1493]

Me when i'm in a "creating derivative art" competition and my opponent is a conservative "critic"

[@slartibartfast7921]

Gonna enjoy me some schadenfreude

[@Alex-cw3rz]

The way the dinker talks about what he doesn't like in Movies you wonder why he claims to be a movie critic in the first place. He hates morals and meaning.

[@ldcg106]

And yet a lot of Hollywood projects lack those nowadays.

[@PretendingToBeAHuman]

Turns out sitting in an armchair talking sh*t about other people's art is easy, but actually putting in the decades of hard work it takes to be good at art isn’t. Who'dathunkit.

[@momscastle]

I would imagine critically low on braincells movie made angry video nerd's movie look like citizen kane in comparison