Pilot Jokes About Crashing - Instant Regret!

[@pilot-debrief]

If you found this video helpful, be sure to watch this other video about a pilot that tried racing another plane and instantly regretted it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHjQn6COhd9gh6c

[@MrCaiobrz]

Your videos always start abruptly with you describing what the video is about, can you add like 1s of silence/hello so it doesn't cut your first word? =p

[@Drodgey212]

I think you meant an idiot for a pilot. RIP

[@charleyrichardson8211]

Man that is crazy

[@gabrielsalomavelazquez3888]

I think Aviate, Navigate and Communicate needs reviewing, it should be: Plan-iate and Commit-iate so that you don't come to an aviate-naviage-communicate situation.

[@dbs555]

King Air aircraft are a bit more complicated to fly than a low hour pilot can usually handle safely. Lots of these crash explanation videos showcase this reason.

[@CombatLanding]

My dad passed away in a fatal crash back in 1988 when I was 6 years old - in an older model of this aircraft actually. As morbid as it sounds I really enjoy watching your videos as it helps make some sense of what pilots deal with and gives me an insight into perhaps my dad's final moments. I'm very glad you've decided to continue making videos after the recent KZbin issues you were having. Thanks for your time putting these out there.

[@musashi4856]

Can you elaborate on the KZbin issues?

[@KimtheElder]

🕯️

[@musashi4856]

Thank you. Do you have an idea of what prompted KZbin to demonetize the channel? @@wojtek-33

[@drod6424]

Not morbid it's called learning from those who paid with their lives. Very very valuable learning. All the best to you and yours.👍

[@anitaoconnell2799]

In Sully's book about the miracle on the Hudson, he includes a letter he received from a woman whose father, a commercial pilot, died in a crash. She said it was somehow comforting to have a possible play by play of the professionalism and courage that her dad likely demonstrated during the flight's final moments. (I think it was the Valujet crash in FL.) I totally get this.

[@flyboy98]

Another example of too much money and not enough experience coupled with lack of professionalism.

[@allanshpeley4284]

How is his money relevant? Outside of you being envious?

[@theprogressiveway]

@@allanshpeley4284youre kidding right?

[@Hof79905]

Absolutely

[@justcommenting4981]

​@allanshpeley4284 flying a turboprop and not understanding how to shoot an ils as easy as putting on his pants. Usually a KingAir would be professional equipment operated by professional pilots. It is a very fast and complicated machine. It would be like driving a race car and not knowing how to shift.

[@perwestermark8920]

​@@allanshpeley4284 There are cheaper planes that are easier to fly.

[@challenger2ultralightadventure]

As a student pilot, at 63 years old, I'm about to take my check ride and realize a life long dream. These Pilot Debrief videos sure drive home the need to follow the training, and follow the rules. I've been teaching scuba diving for nearly 30 years, and the lessons we teach are all based on lessons from the past. Meaning people died, and I show my students how not to, by not doing what caused the death. I view all these accident reviews in that same light. Cheers from Winnipeg.

[@ReflectRx4u9809]

Congrats and enjoy your success - you’ll pass!

[@CLdriver1960]

Congrats on following your dream of flight. I’m a Challenger ll owner as well. Aviation, like scuba, is a life long learning experience. It’s also a harsh teacher in that the lesson is learned after the experience. Have fun, fly safe. Cheers from Montreal!

[@Curious_Skeptic]

You give me hope! 52 and never finished my training. I feel like I am too old to retain all the book work to pass the written. ❤

[@rockfishmiller]

Plan your dive, dive your plan. Same eh?

[@FlatOutMatt]

Good luck, King. Got my private cert last year at age 51 🫡

[@kingslaphappy1533]

I truly believe you are saving lives by showing future pilots (and current) what NOT to do.

[@atcdan133]

As a controller, sometimes I take it for granted that a guy in a kingair knows what he’s doing. This is a good reminder that it’s not always the case

[@raymondo162]

kingair kinell

[@williampope3531]

Agreed. Never allow the fear of insulting a pilot keep you from giving him the best advice and information possible. It just might save his and his passengers lives.

[@andy164501]

Seems to me that ATC is never responsible to help a pilot, pilot his aircraft. How can you know what's going on inside the cockpit, unless you're saying the controller should have somehow seen they were in trouble and warned them? The onboard warnings were going off, but it seems to me they were in panic-mode (esp once spacial disorientation hit the AC, likely his co as well) and were not hearing anything - don't think they would have heard/registered a squawk from ATC - maybe I'm wrong.

[@sciencewizard8805]

I don't think the controllers could have helped in this case. But I think he's saying it's a good reminder that pilots of these aircraft are not always experienced. I remember a heroic story of a controller talking to a pilot who was disoriented. He was panicked, didn't know where he was, and was in some kind of dive. The controller gave him some directions to let go of the stick to let the plane level out. Simple, but may have saved his life. The controller knew most planes will level out if you do this. Required some knowledge and quick decision making to decide to tell the pilot that in the moment. I wouldn't blame a controller if they were unable to help such a pilot though. As Long as they did everything required of them at least.

[@andy164501]

@@sciencewizard8805Sure, but in your instance the pilot was talking to ATC, right? In this situation the pilot was only talking (and panicking) with the "copilot" who was not at all qualified to be answering questions about a plane for which he had zero flying-hours. Yes, ATC can have a major impact in some situations.

[@billbinnings4347]

I was a CFI-I and this kind of incompetence is frightening. Perfectly good airplanes flown by incompetent and unwary pilots breed this kind of regrettable addition to the safety record. Your detailed analysis is spot-on and a worthy watch by all pilots. Kudos to you.

[@dennisp4395]

And THAT is why i have never flown willingly except at 16. I had deep respect for the man in the cockpit and my oldest brother accompanied me. Except for that I will not fly. I was told by my director in a hospital dept. that she was dismissing me for the time it took to be with my wife to fly up to NE for her fathers funeral. I arrived home at 8am just an hour after punching in for the day. She was soooooo happy that I came home to see her off to the airport. But I told her that I was flying up to NE to be with her. She collapsed in grattitude with tears onto my shoulder. And here's what I said, "Honey I love you and will always support you. Even if it means dying in a plane crash. " I don't any pilot from. But I Adam. But I DO know that moral standards have hit the skids and respect dor life runs low. I am now 65 and still will not fly unless it is in selfless support of my wife. I appreciate your comment regarding the above incident.

[@pilot-debrief]

Thank you very much!

[@Capecodham]

CFI? Notice Hoover did not use any acronyms that he did not define, so don't you.

[@billbinnings4347]

@@Capecodham Certified Flight Instructor-Instrument Rating.

[@Capecodham]

@@billbinnings4347 Do you realize not every viewer of this channel is not a Sully like you. I doubt if Sully were here, he would be so hip and cool as you. using aircraft acronyms. He would understand as smart as he is, he would not try to show up others using terms like CFI, CVR, CRM, GA. EFB, TOGA, FO. But you are not him you need to prove what you know. That type of person is known as a know it all or smart ass.

[@gianmatt1930]

it is chilling when he says "they have 20 minutes left to live."

[@TheUsmc0802]

It's absolutely insane how willing people are to put other people's life at risk.

[@mattperry5789]

And their own. This is insane. Shooting the approach to begin with was questionable, not to mention them not briefing the missed approach procedure when you know it’s going to be tight.

[@TheUsmc0802]

@@mattperry5789 I guess, if you want to be daring, smh. However do it with your own life not others. Just like dumb Collin Mcree, flying like a lunatic killing him self, his kid, his friend's kid, and a friend along the way

[@mattperry5789]

@@TheUsmc0802 I just meant it’s surprising they didn’t at least have some self preservation alarm bells going off. Can’t imagine putting myself and others in a situation like that. Losing situational awareness below MDA in the clouds is wild, with no decisive contingency plan in place.

[@rayg.2431]

@@TheUsmc0802 It's Colin McRae, but yes, I agree he was a lunatic. McRae (a championship-winning rally driver at the time) crashed his helicopter in September 2007 while flying at very low altitude in a wooded valley in Scotland, killing himself, his 5-year-old son, a 6-year-old boy who was a friend of his son's, and a man who was a family friend (not the 6-year-old's father). McRae's flying license had expired in 2005, and his helicopter type rating had expired six months before the crash, so he had zero business flying at all. He also had not obtained permission from the 6-year-old's parents to take him on the flight. Some people just can't accept that because they're really good at something, doesn't mean they're automatically good at something else that seems to be similar, but really isn't, especially when they decide that rules and good sense don't apply to them.

[@TheUsmc0802]

@@rayg.2431 yeah I don't care to spell his name correctly so I didn't check. He doesn't rate it .

[@rpclancy]

While I was watching the last video, my gf asked if I was watching Stevo. I didn't notice before, but now I can't unsee it. Every time I watch one of yours, I just imagine Stevo piloting an aircraft.

[@Darkvirgo88xx]

Stevo's Pilot Debrief huh ? Jk 😂.

[@janirobe]

he is Steve O's smarter older brother

[@KathyCarter-Nelson]

Agreed!

[@BreeziDeezi]

Lol oh no now I can’t escape it either 😂

[@cinthyasalas2360]

Yep he sure reminds of Steve-o every time I watch him

[@erictaylor5462]

My dad was trying to get into Nut Tree one cold and foggy night, but he was never able to spot the runway so he diverted, as planned into Sacramento Exec. He called my mother and asked her to come get him and she said she would, but she needed driving directions. They had both been to this airport many many times but when mom asked for directions he realized he didn't know how to drive there either. The FBO who knew my dad laughed and said he'd tell her how to drive there. This was the 70's so it would be decades before you could get driving directions on your phone. Though in clear weather it took more than 2 hours for my mother to get there and another 2 for them to get home.

[@Osideguy79]

Cool story.

[@Bullydog2303]

Great video! As an airline pilot and ex corporate king air solo PIC i cant stress the importance of following procedures! Its what keeps you alive. Also never forget to fly the plane. RIP.

[@stevet8121]

And it keeps your passengers (me) alive too. Thank you!

[@jackglossop4859]

Forgetting to fly the plane seems to be the common theme in all of these debriefs. Ignoring the missed approach procedure was naughty, running out of airspeed was a crime.

[@benblackburn8277]

You are saving lives man. As an Aerosoace Engineer and non-pilot, it shows people how safe aircraft are, and how dangerous pilot decision making can be.

[@joycedudzinski9415]

I totally agree with your statement of making jokes while flying. A pilot is a professional, act like one.

[@JephN79]

Professionalism is magnitudes more effective than 12 million prayers are.

[@boneseyyl1060]

Making jokes is time wasted that could have been spent managing the aircraft. He didn't know what to do next, so he substitutes by making jokes.

[@JohnnyDanger36963]

​@@boneseyyl1060crash jokes

[@blogengeezer4507]

Many people laugh when extremely nervous, doubtful of their own limitations.. Sounds like PIC was 'dead serious, Not joking,.... from the fatal conclusion detailed. ;/

[@sct913]

It is an unwritten rule in pretty much every profession that there are certain things you NEVER make jokes about.

[@RichA7CV41]

I think you're spot on here Hoover. The fact they didn't immediately go missed approach says a lot about what was happening in the cockpit. What a tragedy.....

[@jacquessowhat3680]

I remember my dad was a private pilot when I was growing up. I don’t think he was a very good pilot, and it always made me nervous whenever we were flying. I remember thinking, maybe I could be a pilot one day like my father but to be honest I never understood anything that was going on. Now that I’m older, I know I’m an excellent carpenter, but would’ve been a horrible pilot. A man has to know his limitations and be able to admit them.

[@michaelleitner1245]

I'm with you. I went thru ground school and took the first flight. I realized that I was not pilot material and left it at that.

[@bigblue207]

I respect people’s impression of themselves when they say stuff like that, and I’d rather have someone limit themselves and keep others safe than overinflate their skill and be a danger to everyone else. But I never understand when people say they couldn’t be pilots at all. It’s quitting before the person has even tried. I don’t see a reason anyone couldn’t be a pilot. It’s not a genetic thing. If it’s a personality thing then the simplest advice is to basically get over it, and if the individual can’t that’s fine and respectable but it’s not a physical incapability. If it’s about being smart or handling pressure or something, absolutely no one is born that way. Every pilot had to gain those skills and familiarization through repetition, that’s it. The finances would probably be the best reason in my opinion someone could say they couldn’t do it but even then I always maintain that it just takes strict adherence to a goal and planning (which is basically what all of flying comes down to in the first place). If it’s just the concession people make that “I’d really like to but it’s not as high of a priority than these other things I have going on” I think that’s fine too ETA: Funnily enough, I got another video from this channel recommended which was of pretty similar circumstances: an IFR rated pilot crashing because they got over saturated with workload. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3WclmaIgsiDiacsi=P_B0oHWBctICZ1dT In that video it’s even mentioned that not everyone could be a pilot. But the commonality I see is just improper identification and addressing of a hazardous attitude. I think some people impose certain pressures on themselves that they rush through training and do the bare minimum until they find themselves in a situation they don’t have the competency for. But I still don’t think that means they couldn’t be a pilot. I think some people are more hesitant to be honest with themselves, but that doesn’t mean they’re incapable of it. It’s their own choice to be honest or not. And it’s what separates “good” pilots from “bad”, how the debrief and critiques are received. A good pilot won’t take criticism personally but will use it to improve themselves. Anyone can do that. It’s internal. I also think we have a culture where instructors might feel bad for a student or might not care because the instructor is just trying to build hours for their own goals. That shouldn’t be the case, but any student should be able to recognize their own competency and come to terms with it. I guess that’s how I feel is what it comes down to. You want to be a pilot? A good, safe pilot? You have to be willing to be honest with yourself and work on your flaws. Try to identify them yourself but be appreciative when they’re pointed out to you. Everyone is capable of doing that. Some pick it up naturally and can reach that competency with less time and money. But at that point it becomes a question of perseverance and discipline, can you manage your time and money to reach the competency you need and identify that, and are you willing to stick with it to become a pilot? That’s all it comes down to. The pilots in these two videos, TN fly girl, the commonality I see is they needed more instruction that demanded competency from the student rather than the instructor just signing them off but the students should have had their own minimums for what they were prepared for or not. I’m sure there are still a number of airline pilots who experienced some kind of emergency but even now made it through with mostly mundane flying and never really had to address their shortcomings, or stopped at some point. That’s why debriefing is so important across all levels of skill and experience. If it was true that some people are cut out to be pilots and some aren’t, then I don’t think there would be a need for debriefing. The fact we have it is evidence enough to me that anyone can do it. It’s all about mentality and attitude, there’s no physical or genetic predisposition for who can do it and who can’t. And mentality and attitude and entirely under any one person’s control.

[@JPHET37]

Same here I wanted to b a fighter pilot when I was in my 20s but my eye vision isn’t perfect that’s my limitation , now I’m 53 flying RC planes , fishing and biking these are my hobbies

[@scottbutkowski5803]

Your right. As I've gotten older and made some money I've thought about going for a pilots license, And maybe my own small plane. You know what? That would be the absolute end of me. I have zero business ever flying a plane. These videos have gone a long way in convincing me of that. I've come to understand my limitations, And I know I am just not attentive enough, Or calm enough to ever try something like that. You are absolutely correct, A man must understand their limitations.

[@equallyeasilyfuqyou]

Mans gotta know his limitations - Clint Eastwood voice

[@allenjanes5976]

Holy smokes!! I've been a crop duster for almost twenty years. You're never gonna get me in one of those instrument rated aircrafts. I'll stay in my ag bird, in the fields. It's safer there. Thanks for sharing

[@riogrande5761]

As an 18 year old, my dad (USAF retired) was willing to pay for me to take private pilot lessons. I've always been fascinated by flying. But I knew I had college ahead and knew I would not be able to keep it up and maintain the hours needed, so I never moved forward with flying lessons. In some ways I've regretted it now that I'm nearly 65 but I knew it was serious business, just as these debriefs show.

[@timothyirwin8974]

Same here, dad ex RCAF flight instructor. Dad even had a J-3 for a few years until a medical fail. Had my chance but looking how much things have changed primarily with all of the tech it is way too serious for me.

[@dermick]

@@timothyirwin8974 It's not too late to get that PPL. Flying is less about motor skills and quick thinking than it is about good judgement. If you are worried about the motor skills, get a good VR flight simulator and practice in your living room where it's safe.

[@pilot-debrief]

Thanks for sharing!

[@mustanggun]

Thank you Hoover for all your debriefings of these crashes. You’re saving lives brother.

[@Mark-n5z6i]

Unfortunately, the 4 men in the back didn't know they were in a plane with idiots for pilots. The rules and procedures are in place for a reason. Aviation can be very rewarding and it's also completely unforgiving.

[@125AXer]

What is an unknown, because flight recorders don't generally capture any dialog other than what goes over the coms.... Is whether or not anyone riding in the back made any comments about a glaring error that was missed by both men in the two front seats: Not adding power when it was clear that the initial attempt at landing was not going to happen. I am NOT a pilot, and it has been many years since I have flown in a non-commercial aircraft. But I would have been very inclined to speak up loudly when an aborted landing didn't include an increase in airspeed from the velocity which allowed the plane to drop altitude. The sounds engines give are unmistakable.

[@maxtaylor4638]

as morbid as this may sound those Deer or Moose that would of been targeted that day can count their lucky stars.

[@mteberle]

Totally agree that the procedures are in place for a reason. I'm not even instrument rated but I fully understand the concept of going missed if you do not have the runway environment in sight or are not in proper position to make a normal landing.

[@mrasic3507]

​@@maxtaylor4638Right 😮

[@strauqq1]

Your mother wasn't there. Lol that's funny​@@maxtaylor4638

[@danimal0921]

Wow, Hoover, I thought that this sounded very familiar. I was an Over-the-road trucker back then, and I went into Mt. Airy with a load for a company there and the folks that I was delivering to were telling me about this crash. This one sent chills down my spine!

[@Langolin1998]

Over 30 years ago…in my early 20’s, I wanted to get my private pilot’s license. I came to realize that was a stupid idea for me. These videos confirm it. It was all about “cool… “. I had a few friends that flew, but flying isn’t a “just to fit in,” kind of hobby.

[@Langolin1998]

@dave0351 yes…I knew a few who followed along with the friends who DID take it seriously. They eventually dropped out of classes due to expense etc. My friends who did it for the love of flying, are now Captains with big Airlines, and one went on to fly for the Air Force. I would not have made it to get my private license…no doubt. Although it still interests me, I’ll take my interest from the ground.

[@InMyBrz]

I'm with you too. I started flying at the age of 16, soloed and continued to fly with a cfi friend just for fun. Have flown Grumman Tigers, Cheetahs, 172's, 152;s. Even bought a very cool 1947 Stinson that I flew with my best friend who was an A&P and a CFI. In the 90's I bought a sailboat and enjoyed sailing so much 20 years ago I stopped flying and decided sailing is SO MUCH more fun, cheaper and a great way to take out friends for the weekend, not to mention SAFER. Can't do that in an airplane ! Ended up with about 85 hours total and no PPL, mostly because I was just flying with friends for fun. NOW, IF I had the chance to fly someplace like Botswana with Caravans, a place with nearly zero traffic in the middle of nowhere, I'd probably do that ! BUT flying where there is continuos flight school activity like S FLA, NO THANKS

[@MarkShinnick]

Yeah..a passion has to be there.

[@sarahalbers5555]

I'm with you. I was not ever going to be a competent pilot.

[@jasonking6788]

I'm in my 50s and I still know I have the wrong personality type to be a pilot. Following procedures verbatim drives me nuts, and I am very prone to success/survivorship bias/complacency.

[@srf2112]

Any pilot who thinks joking with the passengers about crashing is ok does not have the emotional maturity or plain common sense to have anyone's life in their hands ever.

[@encinobalboa]

Do not depend on jokesters for anything important. They take nothing seriously and are ultimately undependable.

[@jllucci]

I bet the pilot started to joke because in the back of his mind he knew he was over his head.

[@srf2112]

@@jllucci Quite possibly. Again, that's the reaction of an emotionally immature person.

[@ScrewFlanders]

@jllucci This. Basically, "whistling in the dark." It's also possible that the passengers may have been showing visible signs of regret in their decision to fly with the PIC.

[@markmcgoveran6811]

I'd rather have a pilot that was joking about it and facing it with a good sense of humor then somebody who was crying and scared when he left the ground about crashing.

[@eticket70]

Amazing debrief! What I keep learning from your reviews is to simply take your ego out of the equation. It’s always better to be safe than sorry. Thank you, again!!

[@raymondo162]

TOTALLY agree about ego. too much EGO on the roads these days, TOO MANY drivers have egos the size of a truck, poorly mated to a brain the size of a f in peanut

[@error.418]

Ego kills at way too high a rate, absolutely, stay humble, be open to admitting mistakes and managing them with as little emotion as you can muster. You can let it all out once you're safely on the ground.

[@pilot-debrief]

Great to hear!

[@fu2201]

bot account

[@pilot-debrief]

@@fu2201 huh?

[@jamesf4405]

I took my check ride in 1988. Watching your videos has taught me that I had an outstanding flight instructor. I sure wish we'd have had the internet and all of these technological resources back then. I think your channel should be required viewing for all student pilots. You do an outstanding job of explaining exactly what went wrong. There is no doubt in my mind that this channel saves lives. Great job!😊

[@kensmith6229]

I’m 73 and was considering getting my private license. After watching Hoover’s videos I’ve decided against it. Too many critical decisions needing to be made quickly with the potential of irrevocable mistakes leading to disaster. It’s not like you can pull the plane off to the side of the road to take a breath and get acclimated before traveling onward.

[@horsemumbler1]

Get some good modern flight sim equipment. Cheaper, not dangerous, and you can do the fancy flying in high performance aircraft you'd never get to take up for real.

[@InMyBrz]

THAT is why I love sailing so much, if you run out of wind you just start up the diesel or pull over and anchor - and party, NOT DIE You would be surprised how many pilots also own sailboats ! Same operational theory, lift and drag

[@kensmith6229]

I really have enjoyed the videos though. Great analysis by Hoover that has given me a greater respect for how serious small aircraft piloting is!

[@ericfagerburg7448]

@kensmith6229 the training prepares you for staying ahead of the airplane and making good decisions quickly. I started at 54 and my only regret is that I wasn't able to start sooner.

[@jackglossop4859]

You could have a lot of fun just flying with an instructor at a club. No need to actually pursue a license.

[@whaledriver1030]

I completely agree. Between AF and Airline flying some years ago, I flew part 91 Corporate for a couple of years. We flew King Air 350’s, Citations and a Lear 45. I was astonished to see the other Pilots treating the operation as if they were driving a Limo instead of a Jet. No briefings, no checklists, no run ups on the King Air etc. just load the bags, pax and start the engines and take off. In my first week there, we took off with the flaps up, thankfully it was PHX and a long runway. That was it for me, I had a heart to heart with the chief pilot and said either they start utilizing checklists and proper briefings, or I’m going to look for another job. He complained that the manufacturers checklists were cumbersome and too long. I said I could make one that’s easier to use, laminate them and put them in the Aircraft. He surprisingly agreed. Some pilots still didn’t use them, but if I was on the plane, it was professional standards only. I flew out of LAS, other operators I did contract work with, operated in the same hazardous manner. Unfortunately, I think it’s pervasive in the part 91 Corporate community.

[@charlesfaure1189]

And they all know better.

[@transistor754]

CHeeeZus! Good on you!

[@videosuperhighway7655]

This is why I stick to commercial.

[@bryanspink8042]

Another case of “Get-There-itis” claiming innocent lives. I was in a similar situation with a C-90. The weather at our destination (KVLD) was downright atrocious. Heavy rain and thunderstorms in the vicinity and it was in fact the worst weather I’ve ever flown in. We made one approach and did the smart thing and diverted. As my left seat mentor once said: “A cab ride is cheaper than a funeral”.

[@alisonwilson9749]

Get-there-itis is responsible for disasters outside flying too- hiking/climbing you see the same thing. Knowing when to turn back is an important lesson to learn in many walks of life.

[@burliesanford1863]

Hoover , I've been watching your videos for a while now and I appreciate the way you lay the facts out and use a humanitarian approach while doing so . I'm 67 years of age and your program is one of the best there is explaining the facts of the matter while keeping everything respectful as one can during these tragedies. You do a fine job on your videos and keeping them educational in process. Keep up the good work, thank you for your help.

[@pollylewis9611]

Sounds like being impatient and compulsive sure didn't help in that situation, well to me anyway, another tragic ending, Hoover thank you again for going over this sad outcome.

[@richardwilliams6256]

It amazes me how many experienced aviators have not enough respect for what they are doing. There is no pulling over to the side of the road and getting things together. Once those wheels leave the ground all bets are off.

[@steveneldred8928]

All these Pilot Debriefs have convinced me of one thing, I ain't never getting my feet more than 4 feet off the ground, ever again.

[@jdonovan74]

That's silly. Unfortunately, all safety rules are written in blood, even the ones at your job. These incidents just make the industry safer.

[@gadsdenconsulting7126]

​@@jdonovan74 keep telling yourself that, buddy. 😂

[@lol0609]

@@gadsdenconsulting7126 He's not wrong. You have a much greater chance of being killed on your daily driving commute than on a plane.

[@gadsdenconsulting7126]

@@lol0609 I'll still take my chances in my car 😎👍

[@jimbtv]

@@lol0609 Ummm, that statistic only applies to Part 121 (airline) flights. Part 135 (charter) flights are less safe and Part 91 (mostly recreational) have about the same safety record as riding a motorcycle. This flight was Part 91. When you jump in the seat with a private pilot you generally have no idea about their degree of training and adherence to procedures. This is usually what makes or breaks a safe flight. If you jumped on the back of a motorcycle you'd probably want to have some idea of the skill level of the person at the helm.

[@TophMaGoats]

Honestly, given how easy it is for things to go wrong, it really is astonishing more people don’t die in private plane crashes

[@babygrrlpc5057]

Thanks, Hoover. You are so good at breaking these things down for us non-pilots. Your comments indicate how serious-minded ALL pilots must be at all times, and it’s terrifying to realize how very many pilots - and passengers - are up there tooling around without that needed level of caution and concern - or what should be referred to as “respect for the situation”. And maybe it’s just me, but it seems some of these older guys commit the greater number of flying sins. You have to wonder, is it their financial ability to take on such a thing the reason for their overconfidence? Age is no indicator of maturity. Then again, unless you’re trained in the military, I don’t think capability (at a young age) equals maturity either. So sad to lose so many men in one foolish endeavor. Makes you wonder what kind of trophy hunting was worth this kind of risk 😞💔🙏🏻

[@pilot-debrief]

Thank you very much! I think a lot of it is complacency as pilots gets older...but sometimes it's just that they got lucky over the years and the luck finally ran out.

[@johnschwedes3588]

Glad you're back Hoover, I'm not a pilot either but you're right about the age and complacency. I worked for Otis Elevator for several years as a mechanic and they have a very good safety program. They had the statistics that showed a majority of the injuries or fatalities were from older mechanics that had been in the trade for years and knew better but maybe were taking short cuts and like you said there luck finally ran out.

[@shadowscall7758]

You see the same thing in any occupation with heavy machinery. I personally saw it with forklifts. People use them for so long they get complacent because "I know what I'm doing and good at it" and they get more lax in safety. Sometimes it finally catches up to them, sometimes not.

[@KimtheElder]

As a non-pilot there's something about the way you break things down that often makes me think it's going to end differently this time. That makes zero sense🫤 but it's like OK, they're gonna make the right decision this time, or in bad weather, this time they won't go up. When I see the comments from new pilots, I'm especially grateful for what you're teaching. 👍👍 You're saving lives 😊

[@tangojuli209]

That was fascinating review of the incident. Adding the countdown made it more riveting to listen to. Easy to visualize tbe sequence of events.

[@pilot-debrief]

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback as I’m always trying to make the next video better than the last!

[@davidthompson3136]

I flew about 40 hours towards a PPL back in the ‘70’s, when I was in my 20’s. I can still recall my caution at all time, to keep the airspeed up and to fly at an oriented, safe altitude with the planes controls and engine in balance. It astounds me to watch some of these crash videos and see how very experienced pilots treat some flights as if they have driven the car out of the garage and gone down the road to the supermarket! Your commentary on this accident shows how badly the final approach went, but that there was ample power to enter a straight through go around. And they would all be here today. Thanks for posting. You do a great job. 👍😎🇳🇿✨

[@crazy4dariver]

Your content is amazing. I did investigation in the USAF and often worked side by side with Feds. More often than not, we could get there first if nothing more than to secure it. There are many AF installations where one side of runways is military and the the other is civilian. Civilian airports loved because WE were the Crash Fire Equipment and Rescue, not them. Some of your accounts and facts have brought back nightmares for me but it's OK. At 61 I can deal with it much better than when I was 20.

[@Mitchellms123]

I spent some time in aircraft recovery. What you said hits home. Especially getting there early. It sucks. You never forget the smells and that’s what haunts me the most. The feds have a tough job. I hope I never have to see it again. I’m lucky I didn’t do it longer than a few years

[@obsoleteprofessor2034]

I was in the Air Force in the late 70's+. Do you remember a pamphlet/magazine called "Maintenance". I think it came out quarterly. There was usually featured an in depth analysis of an accident in the back of each issue. I've been trying to see if such a format still exists and if I can get an online copy.

[@countryjoe3551]

@@Mitchellms123 I too worked in aircraft recovery. You never forget the smell.....

[@ktinxx]

Hoover, I am glad you're back! It seems your problems with Google/YT have resolved, congrats! Your videos are as fascinating as they are educational, thanks for all your hard work. Katrin

[@SweetAzSugar111]

I know absolutely nothing about flying, but I keep finding myself binge watching your videos. I love how you explain things in detail for the simple minded like myself. Thank you for the content 😊

[@PAGoTribe1963]

Same here. These are good lessons on situational awareness and knowing your capabilities.

[@SweetAzSugar111]

@@PAGoTribe1963 👍

[@ricardoroberto7054]

You probably know more than you think. It's those who think they know it all that are dangerous.

[@dentalmedica8594]

I feel you, man! I am lausy fucher but I am hooked on porn!

[@TheThinkinGuy]

same... here not a pilot... i learn things along the way. for example, when your flying in and out high altitude airports, the air is less dense and everything seems heavier. is that somewhat correct?

[@rongurney48]

Your debriefings are superb. I'd fly with you any day.

[@PerfectInterview]

Hard to understand how a grown man smart enough to earn a pilots license and successful enough to own an advanced twin could be so freaking stupid. Not to mention criminally reckless. He killed himself, his friends, and could have easily killed innocent people on the ground.

[@sUASNews]

We all make mistakes, sometimes in less forgiving circumstances. The flight begins before take off in the planning, even if it's only a breakfast run.

[@saito125]

​@@sUASNewsHis first mistake was buying an aircraft he couldn't handle.

[@philmann3476]

That's a fascinating question and one that comes up all the time. It's not as simple as "Thurman Munson" syndrome, or "got in over his head," or similar excuses because there're many cases of highly experienced military or airline pilots making fatal mistakes in relatively simple aircraft. Good question indeed.

[@patrickbateman7444]

This guy had no confidence in himself. Don't be a pilot if you don't have confidence.

[@MartinWenzelYT]

@@patrickbateman7444 I'm not sure about no confidence. Seems like more lack of experience/knowledge. Goes in not prepared, intends on busting the minimums (other guy says no, but then encourages busting minimums only moments later). Maybe not confident and then overcompensating.

[@gregentclemory9285]

Hoover, when you say "and now they have a minute left to live" I find that helpful for keeping track in the time-line of things.

[@garyplewa9277]

Great content Hoover! I am an MEI rated pilot based about 20 km SW of Mt. Airy. I vaguely remember this accident but never knew the details. With rapidly rising terrain just north of the airport the last thing you want to do is lose your situational awareness and violate minimum descent altitudes. What a shame. Smith-Renolds airport in Winston was not very far away and would have been their possible salvation with help from ATC.

[@blogengeezer4507]

@@major__kong USAF Ssgt.."We Never left one of ours.. up there".. ;]

[@evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879]

Thank you for these videos! Flying is a dream of mine.... and, while hard to accept: I don't have the mental dexterity to be a safe pilot. Id rather learn this way rather than by crashing a plane. So, honestly: Thank You!

[@flyboyz2305]

Dive and drive approaches and paper plates. Professionalism, proper briefing and always have a plan B have kept me here with 25 years in aviation. Stay safe out there.

[@jimanderson1355]

Implying that “paper plates” are somehow an impediment to a successful approach expose a staggering level of ignorance. They served quite well for millions of approaches world wide for the better part of a century, employed by pilots who actually navigated without a magenta line.

[@flyboyz2305]

@jimanderson1355 OK Boomer. Go fly your keyboard some more. Arguing with a pilot is like wrestling a pig in the mud. After a while you start to think the pig likes it 😄

[@flyboyz2305]

@@jimanderson1355 you are an idiot. I started flying when Loran was a thing.

[@cessnaslav8462]

As a new IR pilot, I’ve realized that I often don’t select an alternate because the weather is clear VFR most days that I fly. I’m definitely going to get into the habit of always selecting an alternate and having a plan for that one day I need it.

[@inshallamiami]

Alternate airport selection is basic stuff, very basic. You’ve been lucky.

[@ryandiedrich6317]

My buddy was the same way until on a clear day he was flying in to a very familiar airport when ATC radioed him to tell him the airport was shut down due to an emergency. He panicked as he had to fly to an alternate, unfamiliar airport which just added to his workload. START DOING THIS NOW!

[@adelardj7026]

I'm not a pilot, but I'm a skydiver so I have a lot of contact with planes and talk a lot with pilots. I like sometimes to bring up situations from your videos when talking with them, asking extra questions and learn even more about planes. Btw I'm a lucky survivor of a plane crash (or emergency landing, depends how you look at it), we lost single engine at 450ft during the climb and went down, luckily pilot was extremely experieced and saved us all, so watching your crash debriefs makes me calmer and more nervous at the same time (calmer because the more I know about planes the safer I feel, but also nervous because ignorance is bliss sometimes 😅), so thanks for your videos!

[@dermick]

Lots of very experienced pilots have made mistakes that caused a crash, unfortunately. When I'm on the airlines, I just have to trust them. When I'm in my aircraft, I know I have to work hard to be safe, avoiding all the normal traps - particularly complacency and plan continuation bias. Everyone has to use their own methods to stay safe when flying privately. I honestly would struggle to sit in the back in an aircraft not operated FAA part 121/EASA Air Operations.

[@adelardj7026]

@@dermick What exactly "FAA part 121/EASA" means? Ofc experienced pilots can make mistakes, but in this case his experience really saved us, it was very tricky situation. Not only he had to pick the only possible place to land where we could actually have chances to survive, but also he had a heavy plane full of skydivers, was in the climb and very low. He had decades of experience with many kinds of planes and gliders, with I think really gave him the skills to glide us down and not stall, after few seconds from the moment that engine stopped we were on the ground, I remember the plane going into quite steep turn, we opened the door and braced for the impact, his reaction time and decision making was amazing. The plane was a bit beat up after the landing, broken wings, landing gear (not retractable in this plane) and body of the plane, but apart from few bruises and twisted ankle we were all fine. I do have sometimes a bit of fear in the plane under 2000ft (altitude above with we would jump out if emergency happens), you could say a bit of PTSD, but I jump almost every day, so I just have to deal with it ;) Luckilly place where I jump now have a lot of fields to land on around the airport, so I'm little less stressed. I also talk with our pilots, asking them about their plan for different emergencies, with helps me to learn and makes me a bit calmer ;)

[@dermick]

@@adelardj7026 It sounds like you thankfully had a good pilot. Most are good, like the one you had. However, we read about pilots that are not good all the time, unfortunately. Part 121 and equivalents are the rules that govern the training and certification of operations that are typically called "scheduled airlines" and they are the safest way to travel in the air. Other rules for corporate aircraft, air taxis, and private flights are not as strict, so when you get into one of these you have to understand that you are taking a higher risk than if you get on a scheduled airliner. My daughter is a skydiver, and loves it, but I can only hope that she always has competent pilots up front.

[@glennwatson]

Part 91 = Private Operations, Part 135 = non-airliner commercial operations, Part 121 = airliner operations. Different set of rules depending on if you're carrying paying passengers and the size of your operations. Part 121 builds ontop of Part 135 I believe.

[@mikes.1882]

The more you know. I had a buddy that was loading passenger hours for commercial so I got a few times helping him with gas money. During a a flight from Manila to Cebu, one of the flight crew had a hot mike. A beeping noise started at the same time of gear up. The shake got harder. All the way to Cebu. I'm thinking, we're still in the air? I always thought the pilot was a drunkie boy, and that we must have flown all the way with flaps down. I thing it was an A300. I don't know. The things we do and don't know, while in the air, just another soul on board

[@shawnengstrom3906]

As a pilot and have worked at a GA airport I can say that wealthy pilots owning their own plane are some if the most dangerous pilots. This of course does not refer to all of them, but so often they buy more airplane than they can safely handle and have a bit of an ego.

[@FlyingDoctor60]

"A bit of an ego" is far too kind for many of these owner/pilots.

[@gregoryschmidt1233]

Spot on. So many of these tycoon and doctor types think that the same inflated self-confidence and playing the "big boss" that resulted in their business success automatically makes them an excellent pilot as well.

[@hammieinvestigations5392]

Roger that.

[@hougen79]

Started watching your videos about 3 weeks ago, and I've made it through them all. Your debriefs are such a great learning tool, and just very interesting in general. Make as many as you can! I can't get enough!

[@pilot-debrief]

Thanks so much and welcome to the channel!

[@muondude]

I have watched several of your debriefings. Your commitment to helping pilots to learn from mistakes, theirs and others, is to be commended. I am not a pilot. My father flew B-24s as the pilot in the 445th Bomb Group in England in WW2. Your descriptions and philosophy have given me a new perspective on his accomplishments as a pilot flying in combat. Please continue your good work to help pilots to take it more seriously. Thank you. 🙏👌

[@MoMadNU]

In the majority of accidents like these, I see a huge group of pilots who fall into the category of "Based on my income, owning an aircraft is just part of the lifestyle" Every time I was PIC I took it very seriously. Before flying new passengers, I breifed them every time that this is not a jet, and none of us are Rockstar status, so if the weather goes bad on us we are either going back or somewhere else. The Rockstar bit took the edge off just how serious it was, and it always went well with new passengers. There were 2 times i provedl i wasn't kidding. First was a climb above clouds and flew VFR on top to an unplanned alternate. The second was to divert to the planned alternate in IMC, with the approach already dialed in. I just needed to ask for a direct to the initial. IDK if it was not being able to afford full ownership of the aircraft that kept it as a privilege to fly, but I regarded every flight as "You CAN NOT screw this up"

[@perezlalo]

Your videos and analyses are very informative and tremendously valuable. As an airline pilot, I use them to remind myself of the risks involved in our world and to guard against complacency! Thank you!

[@andyasdf2078]

Sounds like a total clusterfuck sausage fest in that plane, with the pilot's ego unwilling to face his embarrassment that he didn't know wtf he was doing until it was too late.

[@bigsid3011]

What I have learned is that these are not just rules, they are life saving directions. Making up one's own rules is a recipe for disaster.

[@994pt4]

bro knew he was going down...'joking' was his subconscious trying to survive the inevitable.

[@Hawk2phreak]

Prepping to start my pilots license and I appreciate your accident breakdowns. Learning what trips pilots up and causes accidents is priceless knowledge. Having had some strike Eagle support during my military career, my thanks good sir.

[@fentresshill3990]

Some takeaways: 1. Never fly a non-commercial flight when visibility is low or when weather conditions make it unsafe. 2. Never fly a small aircraft when the pilot may compromise the flight due, for instance, to (a) a lack of experience and proficiency with ILS guidance, (b) a failure to select an alternate airport when planning an IFR flight, (c) a descent made below the minimum descent altitude, or (d) a failure to follow the missed approach procedure. Sounds like a bad omen when the pilot tells the passengers about "going down for the last time."

[@jasonbender2459]

Never fly a non-commercial flight. Got it...

[@sct913]

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[@pyro8455]

Hoover I love your channel and these debriefs. Just a PP with 150 hrs of PIC and not current at 68 yrs old. Keep up the good work! You possibly may save many from the tragedies we watch here. Be Blessed.

[@DukeCannon]

Side note, Mt Airy is the "town of Mayberry" it's a beautiful place, I recommend visiting if you're near. (No, I'm not Chamber of Commerce)

[@jameschristiansson3137]

Mayor of Mt Airy is: Duke Cannon.

[@sct913]

Mt. Airy is where Andy Griffith grew up. While it inspired the Town of Mayberry, it was never the location of Mayberry in the series. According to most who have researched the history and canon of The Andy Griffith Show, the fictional Mayberry was located about midway between Greensboro and Asheboro. In the series, Mt. Airy was represented by 'Mt. Pilot' - the writers combined the names of Mt. Airy and Pilot Mountain. And Mt. Airy is a very nice community - I've been there myself a few times over the years - provided you don't pay close attention to all the Mayberry-themed shops along Main Street selling 'Fife Security Service' posters and the like.

[@SeattlePioneer]

As a non pilot, after watching a dozen of these video today, I'm keeping both feet on the ground! I enjoy the videos you have done of pilots doing a good job rather than leading to disaster. I've only seen a couple of those --- one a man flying around New Guinea.

[@absurdengineering]

An instrument rated pilot seriously asking “you know how to shoot an ILS in this thing” is like a professional musician asking a fella on the gig “hey, you still remember who that Bach dude was?”

[@Tan_AK]

To be fair, I got my instrument at a part 141 program and never shot an ILS in my whole course. They trained me to pass a checkride, not be a proficient instrument pilot.

[@absurdengineering]

@@Tan_AKFair enough, but that kind of training is unethical to say the least. And it’s on the pilot to learn too, it’s not like they have to be spoon-fed everything, right?

[@josephschenk2631]

You can have your instrument rating and not be proficient and that certainly sounds like what was going on here.

[@ericfagerburg7448]

@@Tan_AK Was that recently? My instrument rating is a year and a half old and I shot a VOR approach, an ILS approach, and an RNAV approach on my check ride. I have a hard time believing that a program that is preparing students for jobs at airlines wouldn't cover ILS when that seems to be very common. I was recently doing night landings in visual conditions at my local Class C airport and a large jet was on an ILS approach at one point.

[@eriklarson9137]

I really doubt any musician I have ever played with could name a single song by Bach. I know I can't.

[@herbert5491]

I do thank you for you professional analysis about all these aircraft accidents that should have never happened. Thank you again

[@miporsche]

My daughter is doing her multi-engine training right now in hopes of being an airline pilot. She was always a driver. When she was 15, she wanted to get her license in a car with a manual transmission. She got her motorcycle license soon after. Now it's airplanes. As she obtained her private and instrument, her instructors told me she has some natural ability that most people don't have, but that she doesn't study enough. I know that about her. I want her to study harder and really take aviation seriously.

[@hammieinvestigations5392]

Make it mandatory for her to watch these videos, as being that young, she "can't" perceive mishaps.

[@RomanesEuntDomus.]

Ok boomer

[@Fkujoeb123]

I’m in the same boat. Love to fly! Hate the regs 😂😂😂😂

[@geoffreylee5199]

Failing to plan is planning to fail … the theme in all these clips!

[@skiller189x4]

You always feel sorry for the passengers in these stories. They board the aircraft thinking their pilots are highly trained and competent, just as when they fly on a major airline, but the sad fact is many of these private pilots fly by the seat of their pants. Ask Buddy Holly.

[@NoelleTakestheSky]

When I fly and take people with me, I always tell the exactly what to expect, especially regarding the when when we get above the trees and turbulence, since we get a lot of that around my field. Both my husband and my mother-in-law told me that, had I not told them about that ahead of time, that they’d have been scared, but because I told them what to expect, they knew I was prepared for it. There’s a time and a place to fly by the seat of your pants, like flying point A to B in an area you know well, know you’re at a sale altitude, and want to toss in some 360’s or steep turns for fun, or go over that way a bit and see some cool stuff, but when landing, you gotta focus. I let passengers know that the most dangerous time is landing due to a lot going on, so gotta zip it for a few so I can focus. This guy decided to crack jokes to cover for not knowing what he was doing. He didn’t keep safety in mind, and other people paid. I won’t be him.

[@fredsilva7274]

DEI has infested the major airlines. They are not safe either.

[@NoelleTakestheSky]

​@@fredsilva7274 I’m soooooooooo sorry for you that you didn’t get the position you wanted since a woman or a brown person was better qualified. It’s not like the qualifications are lowered for us, only that we must be allowed a real chance the same that you have. You came up short, and your feelings are hurt. The solution is to work on making yourself better, not on eliminating the competition based on sex or skin color.

[@ElementofKindness]

Geez! It's so frustrating when pilots ignore all the good information right in front of them on the instrument panel.

[@jimmytaaffe]

I'm not a pilot, but I find these videos really informative!

[@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617]

No way in hell, on earth or anywhere else would i ever joke to the passengers or even flight crew about crashing, i dont care if they're people ive never met or my closest loved ones...i can take a joke, im a risk taker.. but that's with my own life, when i have the fates or other souls in my hands i dont fuck around plain and simple and this guy was a damn idiot to not only joke about something like that but takeoff with so many different variables in play and no ironclad plan for everyone of em..its a level of stupidity to such an insane degree i almost don't even feel bad for him, and really Steve too...thank you as always man for these amazing videos with all the nerdy details i love and cant get enough of...and man, what you said about the NTSB not even mentioning Spatial Disorientation irks me too as its something that should never ever be forgotten by anyone who may pilot an aircraft because your mind doesnt work the same when you're airborne as it does on the ground and i think it played a major role in Air France 447 and the Calabasas Helicopter Crash that killed Kobe Bryant just to give a couple examples to there's many more...too many more

[@BH530711]

Just for context, the song apparently being sung by the pax is ‘Never Been Any Reason’ by the band Head East… Lyrics below. Did you see any action Did you make any friends Would you like some affection Before I leave again Well, I've been walkin' behind you Since you've been able to see There's never been any reason For you to think about me Did you have any bad dreams Did you break any glass Would you be my companion Is there even a chance You've been talkin' in circles Since I've been able to cry There's never been any reason For never telling me why, yeah, yeah Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time Woman with the sweet lovin' Better than a white line Bring a good feelin' Ain't had in such a long time Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time Have you ever been lonely Do you have any fun Do you ever think of me I'm just another one, yeah You never give me no answer You never tell me the truth There's never been any reason For me to think about you There's never been any reason There's never been any reason, yeah There's never been any reason Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time Woman with the sweet lovin' Better than a white line Don't you know she could Bring a good feelin' Ain't had in such a long time Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time, wow Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time Save my life I'm goin' down for the last time

[@dicksonfranssen]

Not relevant but I may be the only other person here with a Head East album. Vinyl of course.

[@kortisbraun9798]

Your presentation is excellent informative, clear consise. Thank you.,.for a great channel that actually makes sense.

[@boossersgarage3239]

I was sitting in the back seat of a pressurized Cessna flying toward a wall of thunderstorms. The pilot said I think I can make it. I almost knocked his head off, what an ignorant thing to say, We landed 15 minutes later and had a nice dinner.

[@PerfectInterview]

You saved your life that day. I hope you’ve stopped flying with that pilot.

[@mikeflippo6273]

“I think”??? Jeez…

[@MrTruckerf]

An acquaintance was flying with three others in a twin engine Piper and posting photos to Facebook. The last picture she sent said "Oh, Wow! Look at those angry clouds!". Their plane came apart and all died.

[@fazole]

Was the pressurization working, because over confidence is a symptom of hypoxia..oxygen starvation.

[@JohnnyDanger36963]

​​@@MrTruckerfnever,ever,fly with a femaille pilot

[@griam7641]

Thanks again Hoover for another great debrief. Flying is a lot of fun and very rewarding, but I’m amazed at the number of pilots out there that don’t take this as serious business.

[@your_royal_highness]

A former business partner of mine crashed his plane, along with his high school sweetheart that he had reconnected with after his second divorce. I was stunned. He got the flying bug from me and got all kinds of ratings with many hours in the air. I investigated and discovered the cause was totally on him. This was a guy that I would trusted my life with and I was astounded it was hubris that got him killed. He took off from the Tipton, MD airport which is in the ADIZ. He was supposed to get a transponder code before taking off and was reminded of this by the airport personnel. He ignored them, took off into immediate IFR conditions and was excoriated by the ATC. He quickly got spatially disoriented (witnesses say he came out of the clouds upside down) and crashed and burned. He was flying a turbo Malibu. Ironically, two years later his brother crashed his Malibu in Minnesota (icing I think), killing himself and his wife. Talk about irony.

[@dudeonbike800]

“Second divorce” might explain a lot of it. There is no “second divorce” in GA. The first one is fatal.

[@SkeeterHowitzer]

I was just listening to Mentour Pilot's channel. He said " ... once the briefing was complete .... " He did not say " ... once the brief was complete .... " because "brief" is supposed to be a verb (for present purpose) even though it isn't a verb but an adjective word. He honored The Gerund. Pilot's Briefing. Be grateful that the education that was denied to you as a child is now given to you for free. Now you are to set the example for others.

[@Sky_Burger88]

The lyric the pilot was singing was "Save my life I'm going down for the last time" is from a song by Head East.

[@crazyralph6386]

“Woman with a sweet lovin, better than a white line”. Brilliant track.

[@bradr3541]

“Never been any reason” - Head East

[@Sky_Burger88]

@@crazyralph6386 I saw their concert back in the day.

[@mosindesire]

After watching many of your videos, I know one thing for sure... I won't ever get in a small plane.

[@justinbouchard]

i guided people fishing in the middle of nowhere canada for years of my life. i grew up hunting, fishing, trapping, hauling firewood and water. i would never make jokes about equipment failures, or any emergency situation whatsoever. if i had guests that made those jokes i would make it extremely clear that an emergency situation of any kind is nothing to joke about and if they have any more jokes about it to keep it to themselves. if there is an emergency situation while i'm taking these strangers into the middle of nowhere i am the one best prepared to make the correct decisions in order to resolve it. i could never imagine joking about that in an airplane. this is not an icebreaker. it is an omen.

[@dicksonfranssen]

My sisters are both beyond nervous flyers so the fun starts before we leave the ground. "Those people down there, they look like ants!" "I can see my house from here" "We haven't been de-iced yet (in August)" and my favorite, "Look, the wings really do bend!"

[@eriklarson9137]

Your profile picture totally backs up your comment.

[@dicksonfranssen]

@@eriklarson9137 Not mine though right? Toonces the cat only drove cars.

[@justinbouchard]

@@eriklarson9137 bahahhahaah, go help your mom with chores lol

[@MaydayMishap]

This channel is absolutely gold. I hope all your youtube problems have resolved. Keep up the great content.

[@shimmer8289]

Thus reminds me of a delta flight in the 80s that went down killing many. Same foreshadowing before they took off the captain and Co pilot were joking with a flight attendant saying say your last message to your family in case we crash like the other plane last week. The joking continued, then they went through the checks. The copilot didn't set the flaps, but confirmed he did. If course they had trouble getting up and finally stalled. Both pilots survived but passengers died. It's horrifying how cavalier this guy was about his flight. It appears he was totally unaware of fog ? Where I live we have fog so thick you can't see to drive !

[@dicksonfranssen]

I just watched that episode on Mayday. In a rush to take off, joking with the flight attendant and when their turn came the first officer just repeated the flap settings without even looking. Just really stupid.

[@shimmer8289]

@dicksonfranssen agree....I just listened to an audio of a pilot with a stuck mic rant over and over about how old, ugly and homosexual the flight attendants were. How he was forced to go to a bar with a grandma and f$$. This I am guessing may be the same condescending BS attitude some pilots had at airlines maybe still do. They are paid a pretty penny to fly so just stop yapping and work. Ugh.

[@dicksonfranssen]

@@shimmer8289 If you watch enough aircraft videos on Y-Tube you'll of course notice more aviation stuff pops up. I see a lot of videos labelled "arguments between ATC and crew" etc. They're mostly boring, pilots who can't read ground charts. Pre 911 I flew enough some attendants knew me and if I said the right words I could sit in the jump seat. Talk about a sterile cockpit, I once did a takeoff in an A320 and once a landing in a 747 where the pilot cracked so many jokes he missed his ramp and had to ask for a different gate. Do that now and an F18 appears out the window and you get diverted. Take care, I'm having a nap.

[@user-ho1yn6ms7y]

Wow! Fellow Scuba Diver here (Advanced rating, but moved away from the ocean before I could get Master) and aviation fan! Didn’t know there were any others in favor of negative elevation and positive elevation! Thanks for the comment! Super happy to hear about your PPL at age. I’m 41, and after a lifetime of dreaming, I’m getting ready to start training!

[@rn2811]

Flying a $7 million dollar airplane and having a dollars worth of knowledge is never a good thing.

[@JN24185]

Yup. The o’l doctor killer. Rich men with too much money to spend and a god complex.

[@Fkujoeb123]

It was a 7 mil plane? Jeez!

[@catserver8577]

I know I could never, no matter how many hours I trained, fly a plane. But I can't get my mind around someone, not to mention two someones, having this many flying hours and making such simple rookie mistakes. I think the error here was ego and feeling like they knew it all well enough to joke around and fly however they want because "they knew what they were capable of" and weren't going to think otherwise even as they were crashing. Good thing they missed those houses and no one on the ground was injured or killed from their cockiness. Thanks for explaining these things in such easy to understand terms. I hope flight training facilities consult with you and can use your expertise to show pilots the seriousness of their responsibilities. A+ video!

[@joelglanton6531]

That's crazy that you'd write that second sentence immediately following your first sentence. Check your ego.

[@catserver8577]

@@joelglanton6531 I would think that the people who crashed the plane should have checked their egos, but they were grossly negligent and died. So I don't think I need to check my ego to have an opinion about it. My point is that flying an aircraft is very technical and difficult, there is no room for pilots ignoring basics. Which is a large percentage of these videos. Find a different topic if you can't tolerate opinions about it.

[@joelglanton6531]

@@catserver8577 I can tolerate your opinion; it's just stupid. You're stroking your ego criticizing men who successfully did what you, by your own admission, know you can't do countless times because of the one time they failed. They were better men than you.

[@jklappenbach]

First rule of Flight Club: NO JOKING ABOUT CRASHING.

[@13699111]

%100

[@PaulCarrMusic]

Aviate, navigate, communicate. The most important thing ive learned from your channel. When cognitive burden is overload you can't do all three so they needed to take a deep breath, forget about navigating and just fly the aircraft. I can see myself making the same mistake and thats why i wont be pursuing a pilots license even though i love aviation. My heart goes out to the victims including the pilot on this.

[@budwhite9591]

13:40. That is a textbook photo of a stall crash. Everything in one spot, no scapes behind the tail on the ground indicating forward movement. Just fell like a brick and pancaked flat

[@healgoth]

I can only imagine the sinking feeling everyone had in their guts when falling 🤢 like a big drop tower ride from hell

[@tempe1d]

The best part of life is life. I appreciate these videos. I canceled my airline tickets this holiday season after watching 5 of these videos. I dont know what clown maybe flying the plane. I will NOT he a victim of a clown in the air. Ill be driving now over 15hrs. Thanks for these great videos and continued success my friend

[@Fkujoeb123]

Honk honk 🤡

[@raviom]

Complacency has killed more pilots (and passengers) than bad weather and airplane malfunction. There is so much value in following checklist and procedures even if you are doing it for the 100th time. Movies and media often glorify pilots who don't follow procedures, go rogue and try to wing a last minute move to heroically save the day. This gets into the psychology of some pilots. Following procedure and checklists is boring but show me an old pilot and I will show you a responsible, disciplined, conscientious and skilled pilot. The bold ones make the evening news and become a case study on Pilot Debrief.

[@johnalexander4513]

Hoover, if you have as much enjoyment researching these stories as we do watching them, we will enjoy this content for many many years. The only sad part is people lost lives for this content to be created. You are a first class narrator. Good job.

[@FlatOutMatt]

“Nobody who gets too damned relaxed builds up much flying time.” Ernest K. Gann

[@richd8537]

Fate Is The Hunter

[@winstonchurchill3597]

Ernest K. Gann's Fate is the Hunter is a must read for all pilots.

[@AMhandyms]

Hey there, welcome back to KZbin! It's great to see everything sorted out. I've been tuning in to your debriefs for the last few months, and it strikes me that while the NTSB delves into the cause of the crash, it often overlooks the underlying motivations or everything that happened long before the flight. I may not be a pilot, nor do I intend to become one, but your content resonates with me because it serves as a reminder of how we all play a role in the events of our own lives. Every decision, every motivation, and every impulse. Sometimes, our part is significant or minor; sometimes, it's something we did or didn't do. There is always a backstory or a lead-up to everything. Thanks

[@Brotha00]

One thing I’ve learned from this channel, don’t fly with hunters…

[@dicksonfranssen]

Don't fly with hunters, their gear, an un-weighed moose in the tail section and a lot of misplaced bravado.

[@rogerrees9845]

Total lack of planning and lack of communication...Thank you for another great presentation...Roger...Pembrokeshire

[@TroyCenter]

Sounds like a better analysis than NTSB.

[@Montana_horseman]

I'm willing to bet that in some way, whether directly or just a tidbit planted in a pilots mind, Hoovers debriefs have saved a life or lives somewhere along the line. That's huge. From just a passenger.. thank you Hoover.

[@lk9650]

When you are flying on a private plane and you realize that your pilot and co-pilot are Beavis and Butt-Head

[@fadeddeception]

Hi -You have taken this safety briefings to another level, short and sweet! I feel like I would be a safe pilot if I was a pilot after watching your content and others since the beginning.

[@brucepinkerton2716]

As a physician nonpilot I truly enjoy these videos. The parallels with malpractice analysis and these crashes is phenomenal. It’s always a series of compounding errors.

[@gonetoearth2588]

Another awesome debrief Hoover! It baffles me how some pilot simply take an approach for granted. Every approach is a go-around or missed with an option to land. It's that simple. How do you not even have a rudimentary understanding of the missed procedure...on every plate FAA and Jepp its in TEXT and GRAPHIC form. The joking around also pissed me off. Sad in every way.

[@johns1625]

If I'm ever in the position I have a pilot asking me to appeal to supernatural entities rather than his/her own competency, I'm getting out of that plane lol.

[@peterbassey9668]

And you'd better do so while still on the ground cos I doubt he's gonna attempt the impossible turn just to let you off. 😅