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Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics

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@emtscythe3782
@emtscythe3782 7 жыл бұрын
I work on this type of equipment quite often and I would say you did an excellent job Ivan. Common sense will carry you a long way. The most common failure I find is the oil pressure switch followed by the alternator, bad grounds and an occasional bad box.
@jiangmumren5124
@jiangmumren5124 4 жыл бұрын
good
@tecnaman9097
@tecnaman9097 7 жыл бұрын
Working out in the bush is more relaxing for sure than the Staten Island 'Bermuda Triangle'. You used the 2 most important things here:- a wiring diagram and your diagnostic common sense. Enjoyed muchly.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Yup wiring diagram + common sense + scope is sometimes all you need!
@CubasAutomotive
@CubasAutomotive 7 жыл бұрын
I find that if you can work & diagnose a vehicle, you can practically work on anything. I've jumped on tractor trailers, construction equipment, steam rollers, appliances etc and have been successful in repairs. Great video Ivan!
@rockbottomshow
@rockbottomshow 4 жыл бұрын
Used this video to have the guys troubleshoot our Genie lift in Kazakhstan. Saved them hours of not knowing what to look at. Thanks
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@MrBorntoroll
@MrBorntoroll 7 жыл бұрын
First thought was the tachometer input. Great work, Ivan! Thanks for sharing and especially for the follow up with pico and everything )
@danielcj5
@danielcj5 3 жыл бұрын
You sir or a very impressive mechanic. I spent the past three days troubleshooting this exact same problem. I was checking every sensor every switch everything. Final result was a bad alternator. I wish I would have seen this video three days ago!! You made it look too easy. !!! Lol
@robertdavis6708
@robertdavis6708 7 жыл бұрын
This is the dirty hands stuff I enjoy. Keep them coming Ivan. Really enjoy your reasoning's. Never a dull moment around Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics. " Get them dirty for thirty son", as Dad use to say. Dirty hands and $30.00 an hour labor charge.
@hitchawk4789
@hitchawk4789 7 жыл бұрын
I had a clue when I saw the low voltage, and another when I saw the number 2 light.....I would still be flapping about though because I don't possess your diagnostic skills,nice work, Ivan! Side-note....In the UK we don't have access to detailed schematics such as wiring diagrams, etc, as you do on your side of the atlantic,, we are all jealous of the support you receive from manufacturers and associated third parties. Thanks :)
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Yes OEM service info is key! Luckily the manual for this Genie was floating about on the internet so it is available worldwide :)
@kevinbyrne4538
@kevinbyrne4538 6 жыл бұрын
Respect to you, Sir ! It's a pleasure to watch you work. If I were your dad, I'd be sooo proud.
@emptech
@emptech Ай бұрын
I once had the exact same problem, traced it back to the alternator. I full-fielded the alternator, it worked, but something was still wrong. They don't monitor the 12 volts dc but the AC from the alternator to determine that the engine is actually running. I've seen the same technique on automobiles to since if the engine is running, to shut the fuel pump off in case of a crash. Replacing the alternator solved the problem. I didn't finish your video nor the comments, so I assume you came to the same conclusion. I'm working on an S-40 right now, boom travels up very slow, doesn't go all the way up, I'm told that it is slow in going down too. The owner insists that it has sufficient hydraulic fluid. He doesn't have another other complaints, says all else works ok. I haven't started on the job yet, was looking for hints. Thanks for sharing the video, helps us all out - Jim
@THREESHOTBANDIT
@THREESHOTBANDIT 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I used to be a field tech in the equipment rental business, saw this problem many times, half the time the belt was broke. Those deutzs are air cooled and the alt. belt turns the cooling fan. They're wired up like that so that if it does brake it won't cook the engine. Thanks for the great videos, keep up the good work!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Ah now that makes sense. Self-preserving system!
@edpavlina
@edpavlina 7 жыл бұрын
I truly enjoy watching all of your videos. Thanks for sharing your life and time with the you-tube audience.
@johnc4352
@johnc4352 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan, the first and easiest thing you should do in this situation, and any time you work on an unknown piece of equipment is pull the oil dipstick and make sure there is oil in the engine.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Actually applies to just about any situation. If it has a dipstick, check the oil!
@wyrtwister4260
@wyrtwister4260 7 жыл бұрын
Same thing I was thinking . I would have focused on the oil pressure switch / sensor first . Guess I would have been wrong ........ God bless Wyr
@TheDisgruntledMechanic
@TheDisgruntledMechanic 7 жыл бұрын
Now you are talking my language with these Genie Boom lifts!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
You have any experience with these contraptions, Mike?
@TheDisgruntledMechanic
@TheDisgruntledMechanic 7 жыл бұрын
I have not watched video yet to see what you run into but We have a s60 and a z45/22 that I have done some work on but I also have an expert on them available!
@TheDisgruntledMechanic
@TheDisgruntledMechanic 7 жыл бұрын
My expert was watching this with me and he said you did a great job especially without having any experience with working on the machine! Nice diagnoses!
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 7 жыл бұрын
You dream of Genie ?
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 7 жыл бұрын
It's a nice confirmation when you can take the principles of electronics and apply them to just about everything. I was thinking it was going to be low on oil and that's why it shut down. Another great video and thank you for returning and showing the fix.
@kellycain3232
@kellycain3232 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!! Our company has a S-45 2002. Your video helped us so much. We installed a new alternator today and it worked perfectly. Again, Thank You
@Maxxxqc
@Maxxxqc 2 жыл бұрын
Hi , Did your S-45 stall 2-3 seconds after it start ? what engine did you have ? Perkins or Deutz ?
@fredswearingen5191
@fredswearingen5191 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked this video. I’m having a very similar issue with a friends Genie and it’s been rewired a lot before they bought it. You’re troubleshooting is awesome. Thank you!
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 7 жыл бұрын
I tried to help my nephew diagnose a generator no start with one of these Deutz engines over the phone. It didn't go quite as good as this. lol Loved the opening scene. Well done Ivan and thanks!
@stuzman52
@stuzman52 7 жыл бұрын
Nice diagnostics Ivan! Once you figure out all of the inputs that's needed, The rest is a breeze. It was surprising to see a square wave coming through for the tach. It must be some electronic module inside the alternator to make the conversion. Good work!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It was actually very reminiscent of my very first video on a charging system on a 1982 BMW motorcycle! Remember that one, Terry?
@stuzman52
@stuzman52 7 жыл бұрын
I do indeed remember that one Ivan where you worked on it in your garage. That was a nice one too :)
@MrFarmeruk
@MrFarmeruk 4 жыл бұрын
Good job glad you got to the bottom of it.. do you have any videos showing the use of the controls starting up and use of the switches..
@ryanjohnson4239
@ryanjohnson4239 5 жыл бұрын
I knew the issue as soon as you said what the issue was. Loss of tach signal from the alternator.
@1kleineMax1
@1kleineMax1 7 жыл бұрын
You just get a like for the Diesel, i work 99% on Diesel and seeing diag aproaches on a start stall is pretty cool... but then you said eurotrash.... about a deutz..... But also tell your neighbour that he is missing a panel that is over the injection valves area left of the alternator, with this on the air from the fan (around the alternator) gets directed over the engine block and helps to keep it cool. This engine has no water cooling and is only cooled by the oil and air.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Oh please don't take that too seriously! It was just a joke. I have much more respect for this machine than any of the modern Audi/VW/Mercedes/BMW etc. that are just not built to last anymore, and cost a fortune to repair. That metal panel we removed just to get to the back of the alternator to do the wiring checks. Interesting that this engine is air and oil cooled, I did not know that. I really appreciate the honest feedback :)
@quitteable
@quitteable 7 жыл бұрын
I'm about to pay 45€ for a PCV valve. V.A.G. parts I can get cheap and decent quality without an issue. I guess it helps being in Germany to get German car parts.
@DylanRabier
@DylanRabier 7 жыл бұрын
Don't think there are many new vehicles that are built to last..... 😎
@Nibiru2012ishere
@Nibiru2012ishere 7 жыл бұрын
Dylan running 353,000 miles strong on my Toyota
@DylanRabier
@DylanRabier 7 жыл бұрын
Donn Worry Cool! What model?
@jacobusa4727
@jacobusa4727 7 жыл бұрын
good diag Ivan soon I saw the 10 volts new had to do something with this shut off, but without proper diagnostic as you did would need to confirm this without guess work, u were spot on ,thanks this is a keeper even our cars trying to run with 10 volts computers will act up and hard starting or prolonged starting issue, in this case its a lockout system especially booms and tractors for safety reasons thanks Sal
@Iprofessshirk
@Iprofessshirk 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Exact same symptoms on a Genie Z-45-25J (same Deutz diesel engine) in Belize where nobody knows how to work on these things and importing unnecessary parts is time consuming & costly (import duties are crazy!). This was very helpful for me, thanks!
@jimzivny1554
@jimzivny1554 7 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks for showing and explaining the picoscope in your videos, I'm disabled and got out of the business about 10yrs ago and I miss keeping up with the newer technology, I still work on my own and friends vehicles when possible and your videos are helping me catch up. In a few months when I add a scope to my arsenal of tools I may have questions. In the meantime I have a problem with my knee, could you.. never mind. LOL Thanks for sharing all your knowledge
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Comments like this are really inspiring. I hope your knee feels better very soon!
@TheCowgirlNiamh
@TheCowgirlNiamh 7 жыл бұрын
I love how curious you are and follow things up. Makes for very satisfying viewing :)
@peterd7603
@peterd7603 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I hope Eric O. doesn't get upset you borrowed his tag line There's your problem lady!
@xerxes456
@xerxes456 7 жыл бұрын
You are good at troubleshooting, I thought the lift should be low on oil or fuel. Nice to have some Pico action.
@majstorivan84
@majstorivan84 7 жыл бұрын
Lada Niva 4x4 would be a great car for that road :) Awesome videos keep up the good work Ivan.Greetings from Serbia
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Oh yes the Lada Niva is legendary! The conditions would have to be much, much worse to stop a Niva :)
@classicwefi
@classicwefi 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome diag it's sometimes fun to diagnose problems on non automotive equipment .
@haywardsautomotive6156
@haywardsautomotive6156 7 жыл бұрын
Wow nice diagnosis Ivan. I was thinking you'd find no oil pressure signal voltage or no oil but an alternator tach signal is pretty sweet. Best equipment on aircraft I ever used in the Air Force & Lockheed was German equipment especially the newer digital equipment. Looks like Keith has plans for you next visit on on a Euro...HAHA sorry!!
@calholli
@calholli 2 жыл бұрын
First thing -- check the oil. They usually have a low oil shut off and your oil pressure gauge looked pretty low at start up.
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 7 жыл бұрын
Proper diagnosis is key to any repair. Anyone can fire the Parts Cannon, and waste money and labor- but a definitive cause/solution is well worth the money. I like your spare wheel cover- really sharp, but not loud like vinyl or magnet decals. Plus- you get to sneak around without Commercial tolls in NYC.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Commercial tolls in NYC? Man those people will figure out how to charge you for each individual hair on your own head!
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 7 жыл бұрын
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@rjostler5211
@rjostler5211 Жыл бұрын
Its the alternator or the alternator diode for it to run it has to see over 12 volts. I could tell when he started it.
@gouveiaclassicos
@gouveiaclassicos 7 жыл бұрын
I was scteeming at the computer the alternator is not charging and I was right at list 25 years of expirience working as an eletricion from cars to constrution equipment very good video
@jonhagan7378
@jonhagan7378 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched so much South Main Auto I actually say out loud "always check your ground" every time I connect a light or a meter haha.
@toamataafa4647
@toamataafa4647 6 жыл бұрын
Again..you're a genius Ivan..Aloha.
@mikeyp.3273
@mikeyp.3273 Жыл бұрын
Gotta check the belt. It is designed to shut off if the belt is broken and the way it dose that is through the alternator.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Belt was just fine 👍
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 7 жыл бұрын
ivan welcome to the world of genie. a lot of one off missfit crap cobbled together. not suprising at all that alternator is different. a lot of times when you get a part you get a kit to make the new part work or fit. always call them to order parts have the serial number and any numbers on the part you are replacing redily available. dont just order from the internet. those things have safety systems for the safety systems. then you have boom and ground controls. always check both . it may work one way not the other. also always check the level sensor bubble.if its off some things wont work or are working at a reduced rate. would love to see you troubleshoot a rotate circuit with the pico. you had the diesel. i pulled my hair out on a gas/lpg with the ford engine. good job though
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Wow you must have had some fun experiences with these things lol
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 7 жыл бұрын
yeah lots. nothing more fun than being fully extended on a s65 and have a complete wiring meltdown with no one on the ground that can follow directions. it gets real windy up there and those things sway big time lol
@geraldolmstead1335
@geraldolmstead1335 7 жыл бұрын
This to me is one of your better videos thank you'
@brentonheller8849
@brentonheller8849 6 жыл бұрын
There's no oil pressure, you can see that on the gauge. Has a shut off for low oil, no tach, or hi temp. Those are the three things genie sets in the programing to save your engine.
@seabee460
@seabee460 7 жыл бұрын
I've replaced plenty of these deutz alternators because of no power failures, stop start issues. very common failure.
@Cchange4us
@Cchange4us 7 жыл бұрын
Valeo is the manufacturer of my vehicle BCU computer... imagine how i feel. thing breaks down every damn month.
@theoldwizard998
@theoldwizard998 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan, I think you can fix a rainy day !
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Actually I had to speed up the diagnosis as it was just about to rain haha
@johnwilliamson2393
@johnwilliamson2393 4 жыл бұрын
I'm commenting before anything, but my guess is check for alternator putting out, and oil pressure. There is a computer in lower control box that will shutdown engine during a fault.
@johnwilliamson2393
@johnwilliamson2393 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Voltmeter dead on startup. I've done so many of those. Pain in the ass.
@dezblyan5125
@dezblyan5125 7 жыл бұрын
excellent diagnosis, something new every time,you da man, Keith must of rubbed off on you 😄
@NewLevelAuto
@NewLevelAuto 7 жыл бұрын
Desmond Blyan I could never teach someone that type of analytical method , he is just a genius
@dezblyan5125
@dezblyan5125 7 жыл бұрын
Lol
@dezblyan5125
@dezblyan5125 7 жыл бұрын
He is indeed
@joseornelas208
@joseornelas208 7 жыл бұрын
awesome! !! maybe next will be a 747 airplane. . good job Ivan!
@rhkips
@rhkips 7 жыл бұрын
Nice! I've been working on a lot of commercial and industrial equipment, lately. It's definitely different from the Automotive world, but all the theory carries over! :D
@josephtucci3666
@josephtucci3666 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan great job and a great vid. I do like working on odd ball equipment. Best of luck friend
@korvtm
@korvtm 6 жыл бұрын
Got a question for you,genie boom lift S40 1998 I think it was.Powered by a gasoline engine.Problem was that some times after the machine was warmed up good boom extended about half way,with about 300 pounds of weight in the basket when operator tried to boom up sometimes the boom would drop.Scary as all get out.We changed hydraulic oil,filters.Flushed the hydraulic system,checked all the hydraulic system operating pressures.Rep from vendor sent a man out,he could not find problem.Company that owned machine fine,got a new machine.What else do you think we should have checked?
@emptech
@emptech Ай бұрын
Six years later, don't see a response to your question, I'm working on an S-40, have a similar problem, haven't gotten into it yet. Acts if though it is low on fluid, but the owner claims the tank is full. When I solve the problem, I'll try to post it for others - Jim
@somerandomguy3868
@somerandomguy3868 7 жыл бұрын
very nice job Ivan fast accurate and certain great video
@ericcorse
@ericcorse 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool diagnosis. My wife the Druid would like that place.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Now you can see where "Pine Hollow" gets the name :)
@fieldsofomagh
@fieldsofomagh 7 жыл бұрын
Great fix and accurate diagnosis for a first timer !!
@OneAuto
@OneAuto 7 жыл бұрын
Nice! But did you get to play on it?
@timewa851
@timewa851 7 жыл бұрын
gotta do a hydraulic integrity check for sure... : ) at first I thought it had max. speed 28mph! but that's the wind speed limit for safe ops.
@gtemnykh
@gtemnykh 7 жыл бұрын
Bonus offroading footage, I like it!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It didn't look too bad on camera, but after all this rain it was a soupy slimy mess! The worn all-terrains pulled through though lol
@sharkyrich4844
@sharkyrich4844 Жыл бұрын
The is, hands down, the funniest video on KZbin.
@aaronmiller9279
@aaronmiller9279 4 жыл бұрын
Just a fyi a loss alternator belt will create the same stall condition. Seen way ro many alternators ruled bad when all it needed was three belt tightened
@billrimmer5596
@billrimmer5596 7 жыл бұрын
So in order to stop the engine, what does the controller stop? Nice vid Thank u!!!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Fuel solenoid! Kind of like that Massey Ferguson I did not too long ago...maybe I should make a "Tractor/Diesel" playlist? :)
@cardude5323
@cardude5323 7 жыл бұрын
called the alternator as soon as I saw the word 'Valeo' on it lol juuunky stuff.
@fieldsofomagh
@fieldsofomagh 7 жыл бұрын
I can feel that song coming on "Davy ,Davy Crockett king of the wild frontier"
@davidcraven277
@davidcraven277 7 жыл бұрын
I work on a lot of these deutz engines for some reason they run the tech signal off of the alt
@johnwilliamson2393
@johnwilliamson2393 4 жыл бұрын
So when you're up in the air, it shuts the engine off to prevent running battery down. That way you can bring it down with emergency battery power. If it stayed running, the fuel solenoid would kill that battery sticking you up in the air!
@R.E.HILL_
@R.E.HILL_ 7 жыл бұрын
nice one. very enjoyable to watch. thx for sharing.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@trevormangus7832
@trevormangus7832 7 жыл бұрын
When video started and you started this thing the very first time you missed the fact that the voltage was only at 10 V and didn't have enough voltage for the electronics to work that should've keyed you in instantly to an alternator or a bad battery
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Low voltage itself actually had nothing to do with the engine stalling. Well not directly in this case :) But you are right, it was definitely a good clue!
@mechanic_marky
@mechanic_marky 7 жыл бұрын
I am only at the 3 minute mark but these machines have an exciter wire on the alternator. The alternators on these things are crazy expensive too. If the machine doesnt get the signal from the alternator then it will die, like yours is.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
I think it was like $700 retail lol
@paulcarroll750
@paulcarroll750 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan, thanks for bringing us along on this one. What is your opinion on your craftsman professional amp clamp? I just bought one and I am wondering what you think about them.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It's a decent ampclamp. The zero reading jumps around a bit, but it's not too bad.
@paulcarroll750
@paulcarroll750 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Krillekris
@Krillekris 7 жыл бұрын
You are the best Ivan. Proper automotive diagnoser ;-)
@BlazerGuy1983
@BlazerGuy1983 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan. Do you ever have an issue with you Autel DS708 where it doesn't scan engine codes under the vehicle specific scan, but will communicate when using generic OBD II engine code reading? It will talk to every other system except engine. Locks up in power train. Bad update on SDCard? It has happened on a GM and a Mercedes I was working on.
@stigonutube
@stigonutube 7 жыл бұрын
hey Ivan,Can i get a lift.. Something Different,nearly fell of my chair when you opened the panel, a lot of wiring.. Good Video..
@cornishcat11
@cornishcat11 7 жыл бұрын
nice one ivan. what next an earth mover?
@matthewhite255
@matthewhite255 Жыл бұрын
i have a genie lift z-30/20n drives fine but suddenly the boom raises slow and the other operations work slow such as tilt extend etc. rotate is fast. Cant figure out whats going on.
@azirise93
@azirise93 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video men, I have question sir, one s-80 boom genie when we are changing engine to hight speed and going forward and in same time selecting left or right steering the boom stops moving and make noise , this problem happens only on high speed not in idle speed, what could be the problem.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 4 жыл бұрын
Very strange problem. What year is the Genie?
@azirise93
@azirise93 4 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I'm not sure I will check
@pinpointautomotiverepair1592
@pinpointautomotiverepair1592 7 жыл бұрын
I can safely say that when my notification rang that you had uploaded a video this was NOT what I expected lol. You work on some weird stuff my friend, awesome video nevertheless!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, haven't heard from you in a while! How are things?
@oldsilkhat7893
@oldsilkhat7893 7 жыл бұрын
Ivan, which model Pico scope do you use?
@paulwatson4650
@paulwatson4650 Жыл бұрын
hello sir got a question for u on genie s65 power problem
@toroon
@toroon 7 жыл бұрын
Love the weird stuff Ivan. What's next a dozer?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Sure, why not!
@michaelkane732
@michaelkane732 7 жыл бұрын
i saw the volt meter wasnt up as soon as u started it up
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It wasn't much better after the repair either. Never trust an analog meter!
@leebarnes655
@leebarnes655 7 жыл бұрын
To be fair it was dampened to a very high degree which is why I said oh boy when you said you going to check it's voltage with the pico. But then you run into a newly found waveform on the alternator and never do get around to seeing what battery voltage actually is/was/were. Still a very nice capture of the defective device - I would have been going around in circles on the oil pressure switch with LED 10 dropping out seconds before the engine was shutting down. And that's 'normal' behavior = me slid into the ditch for sure. I'm still there in fact, anybody got a tow rope?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Look close at 22:45. I do get a good system voltage reading of 13.75V! Sorry if I kind of glossed over that too quickly :)
@leebarnes655
@leebarnes655 7 жыл бұрын
No apology need Ivan, I'm clearly the one that was distracted at that time frame by lord only knows what. Completely missed it, sorry to bother you with it. And thinking about LED 10 issue further, it's clearly mislabeled - it should say oil idiot light instead and then it's behavior makes sense to me. I was thinking there was actually intelligence involved. Lipstick on the pig with a fancy dress (official looking LED break out box with new fangled up name) and I didn't know who I was even dancing with. All good now, thanks Ivan. You sure have a gift for this and I love watching the twists and turns develop on these oddball cases. You also have a knack for finding oddball cases. :)
@zensterful
@zensterful 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh the begining of this video toook me back to the days I had my '94 4runner with a 5speed 4x4.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
I have the highest respect for older Toyota 4Runners, especially ones with the rear diff locker. Those things are truly unstoppable!
@greygoosemafia
@greygoosemafia 7 жыл бұрын
How do I test a signal of a wire without have a pico or anything like that? just dvom?
@lrdisco2005
@lrdisco2005 7 жыл бұрын
Can everyone send out for a sense of humour. Ivan is pulling your chain.Just don't dis Scotland or we will come and get you
@adamtheheavyequipmentmechanic
@adamtheheavyequipmentmechanic 7 жыл бұрын
strange the voltmeter does not show voltage when you first turn the key switch on. also i like how you pointed out you had a bad ground on your test lead, i mostly use a fluke when working on boom lifts so i always ohm out my ground connection before diagnosing.
@raymilligan9556
@raymilligan9556 7 жыл бұрын
is the CR2 switch voltage sensitive ,maybe only 14 volts will keep it closed, keeping this lift running?
@reliableguy3110
@reliableguy3110 5 жыл бұрын
its a 12 volt relay
@NewLevelAuto
@NewLevelAuto 7 жыл бұрын
Less than 14 minutes in and you were sure of that diag .. sweeet! . Would have taken me 4 times as long 🤓
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
It took me longer to find the damn wiring diagram lol
@NewLevelAuto
@NewLevelAuto 7 жыл бұрын
And now that I know how fast you are on a euro 😉😁
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 7 жыл бұрын
I got it wrong I was betting on the OP switch before I van got out his truck.
@andreasmaltcke117
@andreasmaltcke117 7 жыл бұрын
ROTFL Wrote a guy living in europe who has to deal with it every day.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 7 жыл бұрын
there isnt one for starting it believe it or not
@nickharding7713
@nickharding7713 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know which is more odd about this video....the Genie Boom or the fact that Ivan shaved!?!? LOL
@alexmessina7652
@alexmessina7652 7 жыл бұрын
Diag on the run. I bet you could do it on an aircraft .... in mid-flight:-) Hey Ivan, did I see two Tac sigs on the new alt: one that looked more like an analog sig and the last one that was digital?? Why?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Ah the first signal was just an artifact of a poor ground on my oscilloscope. The correct signal is the digital one.
@motorcyclesandridingfree2899
@motorcyclesandridingfree2899 7 жыл бұрын
Man you do work on everything lol. Good for business I'm sure always equipment needs to be fixed
@SteveRobReviews
@SteveRobReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Love it , my kinda machine. Nice buddy well done.
@OTuit
@OTuit 7 жыл бұрын
Nice diversion. well done!
@IMARBAN
@IMARBAN Ай бұрын
😊 awesome Video 😊 well done Tech. Congratulations 🎉 I am working on a Genie Z45/24L, the issue i have it's starts but when you press the pedal or the acceleration swtich the machine quits or starts and you let it in idle after of couple mins quits.. 😢, have been blaming the fuel pump ⛽, because it had been making weird noises sometimes pumps sometimes it doesn't do anything 😞... So im. Stuck right there. Now that I have wacthed your video I remember that ar the pump ⛽ the voltage is 10. Plus. I am not sure if that low voltage ⚡✨⚡ would be affecting the pump ⛽😢... So I guess I have to do more testses 😢😮😢
@leexgx
@leexgx 7 жыл бұрын
Guess some youtubers can't follow recommendations about monetization settings I think this will be the Year where I block all adverts on my mobile phone adverts at start and end are fine, not 4 advert per in between video (they are norm louder then the main video)
@garrettmersman
@garrettmersman 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your training?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
In the field
@garrettmersman
@garrettmersman 2 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I started my own forklift repair company and have 2 that are giving me a hellava time. Nissan 50 crank no start...I've literally replaced every fuel component down to the governor....still doing exact same thing it was before I replaced anything, any ideas? It's an older model. I tried looking for cam and crank sensors but I don't believe it has them. I'm at a loss and your freaking pro at diag. Can I maybe get your business email?
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 жыл бұрын
@@garrettmersman fill out the appointment form at pinehollowdiagnostics.com :)
@ramdodgetruck1177
@ramdodgetruck1177 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan, you scrolled right by "starts then stalls" in the manual. I'm 5 minutes in to this. hope you see it eventually. good luck on this one.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Really? What page was that on? The service manual was actually really well-written for this machine.
@DmitriyL_Arithmechanics
@DmitriyL_Arithmechanics 7 жыл бұрын
Scrolling at 5:55: 2A Engine Runs While Cranking then Dies - Gasoline/LPG Models Page 5 -12 (page 126 or so in pdf) Its second step does call for "check voltage at terminal #2 on ignition/start module", but as it is marked "for Gasoline/LPG Models" it is technically not applicable for this case.
@ramdodgetruck1177
@ramdodgetruck1177 7 жыл бұрын
It was near the top when you started scrolling 5:54
@ramdodgetruck1177
@ramdodgetruck1177 7 жыл бұрын
Never saw a tach signal come from an alternator. Is that a diesel thing?
@emptech
@emptech Ай бұрын
@@ramdodgetruck1177 Alternators are actually three phase generators. The three phase voltage goes through a full wave rectifier, which ends up supplying the 12 volts DC. If one phase is sampled, by it's presence means the engine is running. It's not really meant to be a tachometer signal but in this case it's been sampled to check if the engine is actually running, a safety thing. Jim
@TheLandman53
@TheLandman53 8 ай бұрын
That didn’t work for a S-65 , not sure what happened. I’ll let know what’s up
@died4us590
@died4us590 7 жыл бұрын
(There's your problem lady), sounds like you've been around Eric "o".
@samrugtiv5563
@samrugtiv5563 7 жыл бұрын
check the oil too.
@andrewwmacfadyen6958
@andrewwmacfadyen6958 7 жыл бұрын
Those old bi-metal strip type voltmeters were pretty useless.
@robertwillingham8037
@robertwillingham8037 7 жыл бұрын
lol hope ya get it going, may need it to get out....
@samrugtiv5563
@samrugtiv5563 7 жыл бұрын
why don't you call the out fit were he rented the thing, no one is to work on them but the rental outfit.
@snoopdogie187
@snoopdogie187 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think he said it was rented. When you live in more of a rural area random people have different machines than you normally see else where. The owner could use this to maintain trees on his property, or clean gutters, or whatever else and its much easier than a ladder.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
The construction company actually owned this unit.
@tiredoldmechanic1791
@tiredoldmechanic1791 6 жыл бұрын
The rental companies sell them when they get to be 5 years old. There is a reason for that.
@MUHAMMADUSMAN-jq6xf
@MUHAMMADUSMAN-jq6xf 4 жыл бұрын
hi Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics i am usman from pakistan i have 2016 model Genie which is displaying these error's 1)primary boom up/down speed not calibrated 2) primary boom up/down flow valve not calibrated 3)Drive valve not calibrated 4)primary boom Ext/Ret speed not calibrated could you help me how i resolve my problem.
@spaceinvadertoo
@spaceinvadertoo 5 жыл бұрын
I'm saying it's a low oil pressure condition which shuts the ignition down. I was wrong, as it happens. Win some, lose some. Sometimes you can't even get out of the game.
@aleksandrzinkevics1253
@aleksandrzinkevics1253 7 жыл бұрын
я подумал про прикуриватель когда ты заподозрил генератор..по идее если генератор то при подсоединеном прикуривателе с машины эта штука должна работать....
@andreasmaltcke117
@andreasmaltcke117 7 жыл бұрын
Should work, any signal with an amplitude of more than 9-10V will be suitable for tachometer. Maybe even less than 9 volts, I do not know this specific driver, but at the input are systems with high tolerance for input voltage fluctuations.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 жыл бұрын
Я тоже так сначала подумал, но он всё равно не хотел работать. Всё потому что главное - это сигнал от генератора, а не напряжение :)
@aleksandrzinkevics1253
@aleksandrzinkevics1253 7 жыл бұрын
то есть теоретически его нельзя обмануть? от родного генератора только сигнал? какой то цифровой сигнал я так понимаю...в любом случае красава Нет лучше чувства когда что то начинает работать после того как ты в этом поковырялся.. я тоже больной на эту тему удачи :-)
@mecanicaredentor5936
@mecanicaredentor5936 2 жыл бұрын
tive um problema em uma haulotte, motor deutz D2011L3 acontecia a mesma coisa, o motor ligava e depois de uns segundos desligava, aparecia que o alternador não estava funcionando, como que foi resolvido, liguei o equipamento e acelerei manualmente e resolveu o problema, não tive que trocar o alternador :D
@chadharmon5716
@chadharmon5716 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like a land line telephone junction box lol
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