(Pt 1) EcoBoost From HELL (Surge-STALL-No-Start? Christmas 2024)

[@albutterfield5965]

The EcoBoost that stole Christmas

[@DonDegidio]

Hi Ivan, This is interesting and I have plenty of popcorn. 🙂

[@chuckmilles9712]

I own one of these as an escape, and have fixed a lot of the common issues with this drivetrain. I'm excited to see what I haven't ran into yet. I look forward to your holiday specials every year. Thank you for taking the time to post great content!

[@brianw8963]

Part one and already a head scratcher. This will be good. 👍👍🇺🇸

[@keltecshooter]

Merry Christmas to all

[@keithstarkweather3284]

You’re so good you’re making customers better at being customers

[@Megreatbellend]

Outstanding video. I’m an industrial electrician. Troubleshooting is what I do, these videos make my day!

[@Dave-dm3xs]

Merry Christmas Ivan. Oil in engine harness and ecu from cam sensors is my guess

[@mrbigvanlife7130]

🍿 time ! You know it’s a good one when Ivan had it in April and he kept it for XMAS !

[@mrfishbulb7187]

I've seen this fault before, you'll never guess the problem in a month of Sundays. 😂

[@mrbigvanlife7130]

Door mirror ;-)

[@tomtke7351]

If nothing else, us DIY'ers better appreciate the difficulty that even excellent techs must experience...

[@calholli]

Yeah.. I've learned not to be so hard on myself after watching so many of these channels. Some cases are just full of ghosts and nothing makes sense until you finally find that breakthrough problem

[@2nickles647]

Cracked spark plugs insulators. Or bad plugs wrong kind. My brother in-law brought me a f150 that was bucking and stalling. It would idle smooth. Then bucking after you get on the gas. Had a turbo codes too. He said his daughter was driving it. The parts store scanned it. Sold her a set of plugs. Same problems. I pulled the new plugs, 3 of the plugs had cracked insulators and the wrong plugs for the engine. Went to another store. He bought a set. He brought them over. I installed them. Still same problem. Found they still sold him the wrong plugs, and they were used plugs. So i went to the parts store myself. Took them back. I told the old guy, since when do you guys sell used plugs? I don't know was all i got. I got on the computer. I told him, this is what i need. I got the plugs, boxes were still sealed. Installed the correct new plugs and problems solved. Truck regain the power.

[@nv1493]

Oil wicking into the harness can be a huge problem if it migrates to the ECU. The amount of migration can be surprising, in a bad way.

[@mph5896]

Junk it if it needs any more than about $1k in work. Those 4 cylinder Ecoboost engines are great when they are running well. Once they start to break, they are money pits.

[@Ben-says-you-are-AWESOME]

There's either going to be one cause of all those problems, like battery or earth connection, other wiring fault or ECU failure; or it's managed to have a load of unrelated problems all at the same time. I can't quite decide where to place my bet on this one!

[@ragnarironspear1791]

Always interesting videos Ivan 👍🏻 and Merry Christmas from 🇬🇧

[@StephenClarke-m6s]

I've never understood why they tried to get smaller engines to develop twice as much power as they should, and not expect it to develop problems... And then use inferior materials for these engines

[@2nickles647]

It's called Fuel savings. Less weight., smaller engines, less fuel consumption.

[@davidzelkowski9948]

Your government EPA is strictly at fault. Your vote matters.

[@tolique3601]

My origin country import taxes depend on engine volume. For ex, 2 liter import tax 1.8k euro, but 3.5 is 10k euro. Pure insanity

[@StephenClarke-m6s]

​@@2nickles647 yes in smaller countries that works well until you get to the highway or interstate and then you see that these engines can't cruise in a higher gear and are reving away 😂

[@CrimeVid]

Ford

[@farmermiyagi1338]

I don't think I have ever seen a temp sensor swing like that. Interesting.

[@agoodneighborautorepair2176]

Very nice case,I will find an old Ford focus 2000 2.3l engine and transmission to install it .... that are very good engines and transmission vs new disposable engines and transmissions(I did work for 5 Different dealers,Honda, Volkswagen, Ford, Chevrolet and Chrysler,I very disappointed now with the poor quality in must of the cars and trucks.

[@ricanderson5717]

When any of today's cars acts up after about 5 years or 70k-ish miles, replace the radiator cap. If that doesn't fix the problem, jack up the radiator cap and replace what's under it....😡

[@lieutenantdan8170]

Christmas special and it's a week away? oh boy this is gonna be a good one

[@jg6142]

Interesting come on part 2

[@Joetechlincolns]

Everything goes wrong with these. Open deck block design issue/head gasket failures, Wire splice recall, wastegate solenoids, purge valves, low pressure fuel sensors, heater hose quick connect leaks, reservoir leaks. Etc. And a new one for me as of recent, cam actuators leaking oil all over timing belt drive.

[@Jules-x6b]

No fing way. I used to work on their stuff back in the day. My old boss had a mainetneance accoutn with them . Just used to be lof and brakes, etc

[@mrfishbulb7187]

I've seen the oil in coolant sensor problem before, believe it or not its capillary action of oil through the wiring harness from the oil pressure switch.

[@andrewwmacfadyen6958]

I am old enough to remember when the European Ford Transit was the absolute top dog in vans

[@StephenClarke-m6s]

Is it the MK3 or 4 ?

[@CrimeVid]

I should think that there are still more Transits in the UK than anything else. I got rid of my last one two years ago. Poor thing suffered badly from van pox,as they all do !

[@StephenClarke-m6s]

@@CrimeVid there's more choice than there was with Renault and Mercedes, but the move away from the transit style to smaller car derived vans is all to be taken into consideration

[@andrewwmacfadyen6958]

MK1 Transit captured the UK van market over to Ford it had a more space than the rivals and simple mechanicals with good engine access.

[@mrfishbulb7187]

​@@andrewwmacfadyen6958just remember to pronounce 'Transit' with a strong cockney accent. 😂

[@aciddiver1978]

And if its also got the wetbelt, its a total disaster.

[@neilmurphy845]

Yes it would have a wet belt I think my advice would be for him to buy a diesel transit instead or if he must use the petrol ones use the Ford oil and filters and change it every 10 to 15,000 km and change the bed over 100,000 km that's what I was told on the forms to make these wet belts reliable

[@ecaparts]

24:36 It looks like the lights on the cluster are flickering, even before the engine is started. I would imagine the 5v reference voltage from the PCM is also fluctuating causing all the sensors to jump. My guess is bad ground or bad PCM… Great case study, Ivan!

[@mrfishbulb7187]

I think that's down to frame rate from Ivans phone he's recording on

[@CrimeVid]

Recently I heard a video that mentioned oil creeping along the loom of some vehicle or other (?) and it is common in that vehicle, wish I remembered what it was !

[@Joetechlincolns]

Not only outside but inside the wire straight to ECU. Oil, ATF, Even washer fluid from washer pump to Body module.

[@mrfishbulb7187]

That's the one.

[@mph5896]

I have seen wires/harness completely soaked in oil and not causing an issue. Oil pressure switches often leak through the body and push oil through the connector/wire

[@mrfishbulb7187]

​@@mph5896wait till it gets to the ECU

[@kevinbarry71]

I enjoyed the video. Is Ford getting their wiring harnesses from Mercedes now? As long as the Ecoboost doesn't end up on the I Do Cars channel, it is a win

[@zoidberg444]

Oh boy. When Ivan posts the first part of the Christmas special and its not Christmas for 6 more days. I can already feel myself getting a headache.

[@CajunShrek]

Praise to that driver for keeping logs on what the events are West more people would do that

[@jordysandino6577]

Every vehicle from ford that has turbo is call ecobooom

[@yellovanneil]

At the end of the day if you want something reliable buy Japanese, simple as that.

[@davidnorton5887]

Anyone that needs a reliable vehicle for business, especially a van, needs to buy new and only keep it for the warranty period, and build that cost into the business plan.

[@kbrnsr]

Is this Scotty posting from an alt account?

[@Usmanthemecano]

Nissan is Japanese 😂

[@matthewmcmaster2731]

Do these engines suffer from oil migrating up through the electrical connectors like the Mercedes and some BMW's? That causes all kinds of sensor issues. The only remedy for that is complete wiring harness replacement.

[@lugnutgmc]

Oh boy I'm excited to watch this series! I thought the ecoboost in the Connect was only a myth. I've never seen one in real life. I have the boring reliable 2.5 in mine. 130k miles and never a hiccup. Haven't ever seen the check engine light ever.

[@mph5896]

2.5 is the engine to get. In the Escapes, they only come in FWD though. Have to get the ecoboom for the AWD. 6f35 is a turd though.

[@lugnutgmc]

@mph5896 Yah, so far my trans has held in there. But I've heard about all the problems

[@mph5896]

@@lugnutgmc I have rebuilt a couple. Usually the TC grenades and sends clutch material everywhere. Or the pump goes.

[@calholli]

Wow.. This is really early.. There must be a lot of episodes. lol. I'm betting everything comes down to one sketchy ground wire that has 16 wires going into it. :) (just kidding-- this one is a doozy though).

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

I'd check the diverted tube on the back side of the charge pipe coming from the turbo. Often times that pipe isn't installed correctly. Or it could be broken. Not that anyone is asking. I just like guessing as I watch.

[@major__kong]

I think Ivan have me a hint a while back during the Black Friday video when I asked, "What, no deals on crimping tools?" And he said to wait for the Christmas special.

[@bobby9195]

Good morning! Merry Christmas y'all. Very interesting problem you have here.I'm learning something lol , this Ford is acting weird 😮 , HELP 😅 Love your videos.🎉❤❤❤😂

[@hughjass1274]

Oh boy, Christmas came early!

[@mrcogginsgarage7062]

Ivan I'm worried about the fact that there is oil in the connectors no coolant temperature shouldn't have anything to do with oil should it and you can't get an oil leak from the coolant centre so they always got to be getting in there somewhere is it a question that the pressure sensor for the oil has gone porous and is allowing hot thin oil attending temperature to pass through the sensor into the plug and up the loo where it cools and then eventually finds its way to the lowest point I've had this on an older Volkswagen admittedly that was with a header tank coolant temperature sensor that made it all the way back to the fuse box might well be worth checking good luck I'm looking forward to part two oh well I'm here happy Christmas

[@IO-zz2xy]

The first and main problem is that it is a Ford

[@chrisnorris532]

I think, I may be wrong, that the 1.6 engine used in the Transit is actually a Peugeot Citroen unit.

[@chrisnorris532]

What does “bank 1” mean surely if it’s an inline 4 cylinder “bank” is irrelevant it’s just cylinder 1,2,3 or 4

[@IO-zz2xy]

@@chrisnorris532 I suspect you mabe right. A lot of manufacturers use same basic vehicle and engines and just make cosmetic changes. European and Japanese especially. Regards from South Africa

[@gasauto1675]

everybody is complaining about small turbo engines, my 1.4 Naturalgas CNG VW Golf runs strong after 180000 mls, tows a middle European RV trailer every year, but it get good maintenance, in the USA many people ignore that and got big problems, specially with european cars or engines

[@RussellBooth1977]

Yeah I know about Ford cramming stuff into places where it's hard to get access to things. In 1979 , Ford Australia built the 250 cubic inch crossflow 6 cylinder engine (they also made a 200 cubic inch version) which was basically the non crossflow engine which Ford Australia made up an aluminium alloy crossflow cylinder head for & bolted it onto the non crossflow engine from the previous XC Falcon in the XD Falcon which was a homologated Ford Granada (U.K. version) , the engine was also shoehorned into the Ford Cortina as well, the 105 kilowatt OHV 6 cylinder engine moved the Cortina pretty well. The problem was that the distributor was mounted underneath the inlet manifold which was hard to get access to, they didn't change it in 1988 either when they built the 3.9 litre SOHC 6 cylinder engine for the EA Falcon, the distributor was still stuck underneath the inlet manifold which also made changing the spark plug leads & distributor cap harder. While they seldom had to be touched if the TFI (thick film ignition) module failed or the Hall effect sensor failed it was harder to remove than is necessary. A lot of mechanics just replaced the whole distributor in the event of a TFI failure & I noticed that the Hall effect sensor suffered from a case of the Green crusties in an EL Falcon I worked on, so that's probably why the whole distributor was replaced. In the EF Falcon (1995 model) was fitted with a waste spark ignition system which lived underneath the inlet manifold of the 4 litre Ford "Thriftpower" 6 cylinder engine, I believe that they copied off Holden who fitted the 3.8 litre Buick L36 V6 engine into the VS Commodores in 1995, it ran the same sort of waste spark ignition system except it was GM Delco, not Motorcraft which is a Ford product. It was short lived, I believe that it was due to poor ventilation underneath the inlet manifold which caused ignition coil failure, the 3.8 litre Buick L36 V6 ignition coils were more accessible because they were mounted at the front & weren't as failure prone as they were in the EF Falcon, many EF Falcon taxis had them replaced under warranty by Ford. In 1997 , Ford went back to fitting the distributor & single ignition coil setup from the EA -ED Falcon models in the EL Falcon to avoid expensive warranty repairs. Yet they went back to that waste spark setup in the AU series and 1 Falcon in 1998 & they were having the same problem with it as they did in the EF Falcon, they supposedly came up with a revised ignition coil in the series 2 or 3 AU Falcon but I don't know if that improved anything or not !

[@Usmanthemecano]

I'm leaning towards a bad ecm... Maybe oil migration thru the wiring? I don't think an AF will fix it

[@liquidhandwash]

Im pretty sure i saw the fuel pressure jumping around at idle at times from 600 to 750 psi. Is that the engine that chops up the camshaft lobs that drive the pump?

[@teekay_1]

I looked up this engine. This is apparently a common problem with the 1.6 Ecoboost, many people mistake this for a transmission issue. In some cases replacing the boost control solenoid fixes it, but I'm interested to see if this is the same issue.

[@matthewmcmaster2731]

Small high power turbo engine like this are not meant for short stop and go trips. The constant heat cycles put them through the ringer. They'll go through head gaskets like the old school Pac Man game.

[@kc6nfv746]

My Nissan versa note has the po420 code where can I buy a good after market catalytic converter first I try 02 sensor

[@xboxbml]

Good morning Ivan!..

[@robbflynn4325]

I would buy a Toyota Sienna minivan for this kind of business. Remove the rear seats and you have plenty of storage. The cast iron reliability and hundreds of thousands of miles you would get out of it would more than offset mpg costs and initial purchase price. Having said that, the Sienna hybrid probably achieves a similar mpg to this little puddle jumper.

[@12wingwfetech]

There is a reason why Ford is leading the pack with recalls this year . Not that GM and Stellantis are much better

[@therealhip9321]

How did the stealership at least not change the O2 sensor?

[@charlesadams41]

Shout out Scranton!

[@wolvessoccer]

Oil in ecu connectors 🤔🤔🤔

[@calholli]

ECT ...

[@trevorvanbremen4718]

Haven't finished watching it yet by my $0.02 Prior people have replaced multiple sensors and nhere's now two MORE 'suspect' sensors (Coolant temp and O2)... I'd start looking for what is COMMON to them all... e.g. Perhaps a bad ground?

[@johnthompson6960]

Is oil conductive? I don't think it should make a difference.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@johnthompson6960 if it gets in between the male and female pins, and it's non conductive, tell me what happens 😉

[@ItMeDwaeji]

Oil,fuel,hydraulic fluid can all cause issue of it's resting inside a connector

[@tuberNunya]

I stay far away from anything called eco.

[@jhonditch4269]

2014 FORD lasted way beyond design life none will ever be classics again.

[@_RiseAgainst]

These vehicles do not have a blow off value, so im guessing boost leak, or something is erraticly changing desired boost pressure.

[@goldfinger6746]

if you got so match sensors whit a problem i think about a bad ground some were ore bad 5v reference🙄

[@danielkearns3600]

My OCD it drives me crazy when someone clears the codes before using freeze frame data to use this information that may have helped with diagnosis information

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

When there are 5 separate issues, sometimes it's easier to start from scratch 😂

[@neilmurphy845]

Those early ecoboost engines are no good whatsoever It looks like the newer ones 2019 onwards seem to be good but my wet belt is behaving itself so far but again I only have 97,000 km I hope it lasts 5 years

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Wet belt = ☠️

[@StephenClarke-m6s]

The wet belt system can fail at any time, best advice is correct oil and then that's not a guarantee

[@StephenClarke-m6s]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I have heard it is more the 1.0L and the 1.2L that suffer from the "ecoboom" problems. And ford has taken some responsibility for the issue

[@edwinlomonacofoolsend]

This sounds like a torque converter issue.

[@gasauto1675]

the 1.6 ecoboost are the better ones, complete crap is the 1.0 threecylinder and the HO 3.5 is not much better

[@robertsmith2956]

because whoopie will accuse him of being racist if he doesn't make the delivery..

[@calholli]

Ivan- Why didn't you just throw a turbo at it? Obviously the dealer was right... (NOT)

[@kerrylewis2581]

Moe hoses, Moe problems... What a mess

[@CajunShrek]

109 k on a EcoBoost a canola guarantee it's a turbocharger going out 2:26

[@jimdandy2275]

The Ford Mess. Stay tuned..

[@troysearcy4110]

They are bad on fuel pumps

[@jimforsyth2.]

And a battery

[@CajunShrek]

1:17 Ecoboost and reliable doesn't mix well together Ivan 😂 if you want to reliability he needs to go sell it and tell him go get a Toyota sienna work van

[@johnnybartlett-ke9wg]

They could give those fords away new and still make a fortune on repairs,a horse and buggy would be more reliable, a little slower but just a little water and hay and would get you there😅😅

[@phprofYT]

1.6L Turbo? Just drop in a replacement.

[@gasauto1675]

4.0 V6? 😅

[@mistsmogguru8378]

Go out in a ford, come back on a bus !

[@on-site4094]

Owner needs a reliable van & buys an echo boost 😂😂.

[@Mikie1959]

Okay you keep knocking aftermarket parts but here lately I have seen you install aftermarket parts you have been contradicting yourself this year a lot.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@Mikie1959 I only use aftermarket if there's no other option, or if it's not a mission-critical component. Pay attention! 😜

[@dcomputers]

He only uses aftermarket parts brands if it's used by the oem such as denso ,ngk bosch.

[@oldbiker9739]

whats with 4 cyinder turbo engines in trucks and vans ,are they crazy ? piss on the EPA .

[@johndesaavedra1040]

Have you driven a Ford lately? Buy good shoes.

[@gasauto1675]

yes and it was not good, german version Ford Explorer, intern much Volkswagen ID4, and a bad car at all

[@throttlewatch4614]

SCRANTON ? Probably drove on Biden highway now it doesn’t work 😂

[@OliviaWilliams-j4v]

Your videos always manage to cheer me up even on the grayest day. Thank you for your cheerful creativity and positive approach!🍉🎈🤝

[@aciddiver1978]

Who paid you?

[@alantrimble2881]

@@aciddiver1978The bots are out of control!

[@GarryFishermusic]

Just one more reason to stay away from this eco unfriendly engine or van . I’m too old for a new hobby like this one .

[@adamlynn6648]

A ford and reliable lol

[@Chu3505]

😂🤣the owner said he needed his delivery service 🚐 to be reliable.😢He shouldn’t have buying Ford brand delivery 🚐 van with a Turbo Boost engine.He should’ve bought a Toyota or a Honda delivering 🚚 van with a normal engine.100% it could’ve lasted for him 99-100% without having any engine problems for 5 or more years easily.

[@skillz1855]

Buy a Toyota problem solved

[@brassmule]

Yeah they'd eventually just recall and replace the engine, I guess.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Toyota makes a delivery van? 🤔

[@jordysandino6577]

Yes , they do is call Toyota hice

[@lolzlarkin3059]

Toyota proace city

[@gasauto1675]

not really, Toyota got MANY problems with the 1.2 turbo engine in Europe, injectors, egr, sparksystem,lspi....

[@OliviaMitchell-d2c]

Your channel is not just a source of information, it's a place where every video is a little masterpiece. Keep up the good work!💚🏉🏋️

[@aciddiver1978]

Who paid you?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

You're in for a masterpiece Christmas Special 😉👌

[@jordysandino6577]

Oh boy another ecobooom crap

[@jordysandino6577]

Ecobooom 💣 💥

[@geraldito7777]

wet timing belt trash engine...

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Dry belt...

[@geraldito7777]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Good. Thanks sr!

[@EmilyWilson-j5s]

Watching your channel is like a fresh breeze in the world of entertainment and laughter. Keep surprising and entertaining us with your quality content!🥀🦬💡

[@aciddiver1978]

Who paid you?

[@EmilyMartin-e1j]

The quality of your videos is always top notch! It's a pleasure to watch and learn something new.‍♂️🌴🟫

[@aciddiver1978]

Who paid you?