Ping G430 MAX 10K Driver Review

[@peterbarnes8941]

I've watched several videos today on the the 430 Max 10 K. Your video is, BY FAR, the most informative. Congratulations! You continue to be my "go to Source" as to what newly released clubs really offer. Thank you...

[@johnk.atchley5079]

Great review as always. You do a better job than anyone of explaining what a club does under the different conditions and strikes we average golfers make.

[@giomusah2155]

that's true. You like a well to do man, can I borrow 5k? I am having difficulty paying 6 months rent

[@Nighthawk1983]

I got fittet into this 10k driver.. It was a no brainer for me, consistent Smash factor at 1,49 10 out of 10 fairways.. I got it with the Tour 2.0 Grey. Sving speed was on average that day 105-110mph So now im just waiting for it to arrive :-) Keep up the work, love you indeept reviews. Greetings from Denmark

[@AskGolfNut]

Thanks for the kind feedback, have quite a few viewers from Denmark so glad to make another acquaintance. I do a Monthly Live Stream the first Monday of every month at 7pm UK Time. It would be great to have you along 👍

[@michaelgray3867]

What stiffness did you end up getting at that swing speed?

[@fwood1231]

Best technical and data review I’ve seen on any driver. Just the facts, thank you very much. One of my playing partners just purchased the 10 degree last week and let me hit it a few times. Just amazing in how much more distance I experienced with this club. I’m 74 years old and have a slower swing (85-90) but hit pretty good and usually keep it in the middle and straight or a little tail with my Rogue ST Max at 11.5 degrees. A great drive for me is about 230-240 total. This past week I was driving the ball very well and tried the 10k on #18 after I had already possibly my best drive for the day. Same ball, same conditions, and hit the G430 10k honestly 20 yards past my Rogue ST tee shot. And I did it three times in a row. 😳. Wasn’t planning on buying a new driver, probably ever. But 20 yards increase and it’s just so easy for me to hit it…. It’s just crazy. Subscribed. And if anyone cares, I’m a 14 handicap (crappy putter).

[@AskGolfNut]

Just imagine what the handicap would be if you could putt 😊👍🏻👍🏻 Welcome to the AskGolfNut community 👍🏻

[@raymondo007]

Great in depth review. I love to see a comparison between this and the G430 max, now that would be interesting.

[@davidarneson6599]

Love your reviews. Doing the slower swing speed tests along with the off-center hits is more representative of us "regular" golfers. Would love to see the battle of the Max/10k's, including PING, TM, Callaway (close) and the new Mizuno.

[@EthanSimon-x9d]

I’ve played Titleist drivers for 20+ years and just switched to the ping lst and wow what a difference ( using the same shaft in fitting) . 15 yards more in carry plus 10 yards in role , very impressive!!!! Look’s totally different but feels great and performs awesome. I’m a 1.6 index and don’t switch clubs unless it’s a huge gain …. This was . We’ll done Ping !!

[@joesti7607]

Gotta say jay I really enjoy how you review clubs. It’s so bland watching others read the brochure then hit a few balls with almost not data. Good job man!

[@cubuffs5601]

Great Introduction. Definitely want a Max vs 10K video.

[@sumitagg1]

You and mark cross field the only reviewers that have not become a shills for the brands.

[@jherl8307]

Jay if you were in showbiz you’d win an Oscar every year and if you participated in any field that offered it you’d win the Nobel prize every year. You’re that good !! 😜

[@wasteland1212]

Another one you push me to buy this year. Great review.

[@waldorf9445]

Fantastic video as always Jay, I tested both the 10k and the Max recently and for me and my swing the G430 Max with the weight moved gave a tighter dispersion for me and was slightly longer. Both great drivers but I think there is a G430 Max in my near future 🙂

[@linleyhackworth2672]

I rather have the adjustable weight in the 430 LsT

[@linleyhackworth2672]

I rather have the adjustable weight in the 430 LsT

[@FenwayJoe7129]

I just bought the G 425 MAX. Price dropped down nicely and people forget it also is in the 10 K moi area. Pretty nice buy at current prices.

[@primafacie6442]

Why doesn’t this channel have 500,000 + subscribers? Brilliant analysis as always Jay.

[@andy_bickley]

Gotta hit that , Like and Share button.

[@AskGolfNut]

Because KZbin doesn't necessarily like recommending educational channels, they'd rather promote entertainment based stuff which has generally very little in the way of usable information for the Average Golfer to take away... 🤷👍🏻 I'll get there though, one subscriber at a time 😊👍🏻

[@chadpeace5852]

It is by far the best driver I have ever owned. It has been in my bag since mid February. I have never had more confidence with a driver in my hand stepping up on to the tee box. Not only is it forgiving but it spins so much lower than pretty much any Max model driver out there even the TM Qi Max 10K. Thank you for the review! I also happen be a Mizuno guy too with my irons and wedges. Have the 221/225 combo and the T24 wedges in that beautiful Denim Copper finish. Cheers!

[@christophers9727]

Always appreciate your reviews. In depth and legit testing vs following a script the manufacturer wants you to sell to get another free driver next year

[@jackwest5295]

For the amount of work you put into your channel. you. deserve a million more subscribers.. ?????

[@AskGolfNut]

I appreciate that! Thanks very much for the kind feedback, I'm working on trying to make the most honest and useful content I can, and although it's a crazy amount of work, I'm houseful in time that my hard work will pay off in the view and subscriber counts 👍🏻

[@carlrulton8101]

Very informative video. The bit that showcased this was the off centre strikes and the 20mm toe strike was unreal! £599 is steep for this however it’s set the bar for all the rest to follow in 2024 and onwards..

[@AskGolfNut]

Don't get me started on how much equipment costs, if I had a magic wand I'd slice everything cost wise in half for the average golfer to afford but it look as though the trend isn't slowing 😢

[@RajKumar-zm4ll]

Thanks Jay always love your comprehensive reviews

[@AskGolfNut]

Glad you do..... They take long enough to make 😊😊

[@becrisp]

Thanks!

[@AskGolfNut]

Thanks very much for your kind support 👍🏻

[@pbode1]

Thanks. Love the understated British humor about the potential of exploding drivers.

[@GiggityGagnon]

Very informative and fantastically presented as always, Jay! I recently added a G430max 5W to the bag and it was so easy to hit I thought why don’t I upgrade the driver too! 😅 this video might have been the final push to do so.

[@AskGolfNut]

Going live on my channel in just under 2 hours (7pm UK Time) it would be great for you to pop in and get involved 👍🏻

[@GiggityGagnon]

@@AskGolfNut slipped my mind during the live stream but did you happen to have a talking point on this comment after you requested I copy and paste it in the live chat? Sorry, I wasn’t able to fully attend during the beginning portion.

[@AskGolfNut]

Nothing to get too excited over, just that when I used to Coach and Custom Fit full time it was a brilliant club for so many golfers.... Its one also that so many more should try and put in the bag.... 7 Wood also 👍🏻

[@GiggityGagnon]

@@AskGolfNut I couldn’t agree more! I play a 4H at the moment but I could see that changing to a 7W in the future. Thanks Jay!

[@susannafera]

LOVED that you hit the G30 and love the sound! Due to my Stealth 1 falling apart, I needed a driver and grabbed my old G30 and thought "why did I stop using this driver?" I love the distance but the mis hits are not so great. Which of the G430's have that same sound and feel of the old G30. Btw, I will never get rid of my G30, it will stay in the rack for emergiencies:-) I wasn't able to adjust the G30 as you might recall.

[@robertshields6214]

I cant wait to try it out. Thank you for the detailed review!

[@Matthew-qw1jg]

I love seeing a review with some real golfer metrics. When others say they hit it off the heel, it's like 5mm and was an "awful strike" for them. Are you going to do similar testing with the other driver releases of this year?

[@carlj2648]

Good video. Just picked up the max this week. Thinking of having a driver assessment to see if I should upgrade to 10k, and if not what shaft should I stick with. Left with 2.0 chrome x flex 65. I'm at 107 to 110 mph

[@chrismccarthy1535]

Thoughts on this for a 90-95 speed?

[@patrickhoward4080]

Just bought this 10k driver about a week ago. Hands down the best driver I’ve ever had in my entire golfing experience. Tour 2.0 black 65x shaft with 10.5 head. Hit bombs and keeps the spin steady…no dippers. So stable. Dropped the paradym…no looking back. Way better.

[@AskGolfNut]

Glad you are enjoying your new purchase 👍🏻

[@patrickhoward4080]

@@AskGolfNut yeah my friend went with me and we played Harbour Town…home of the RBC championship. He hit my G430 10k. Wanted to buy it…so I sold it to him for what I bought it for. I then tried a Qi10 Max. Nope! Took it back…bought another ping 10k for myself. So now he and I both hitting bombs with them

[@ciaranoconluain6328]

LOVE your videos and your discussion on face strike impact for each club. Would love to see your roundup on all brands in each type ie all Drivers out now compared and pick what you thought best etc??

[@jimwocha4949]

Nice review Jay. Still gaming my G400 Max. Would love to try the LS version. The 430 Max 10 k might therefore be the ideal solution. Love my Ping G400 but it is loud.

[@superinsman1112]

Incredible review with detail. This is the first review I have seen of yours. Great job.

[@AskGolfNut]

Fingers crossed you'll look at others that I've done. I do them some what different to many if not all. Not everyone's cup of tea maybe but I always like to think I do thd most comprehensive reviews on KZbin 👍🏻 fingers crossed you subscribed with the notification 🔔 on 😊😊

[@dandunne-d5b]

Brilliantly detailed review! PING couldn’t do it better.

[@paulessom1926]

Great review. Lots of good information. The detail you go into testing forgiveness is next level.

[@stuartrawlings9436]

this is possibly the best in depth review of a golf club i have ever seen but you missed one part of the club middle top only saying because that is where i seem to be hiting it at the moment my bad thank you for this review

[@jcjbike]

Yes. This product and the timing is sort of confusing. I can’t help but to wonder if Ping had to get this out to offset losses to the new callaway and TM offerings.

[@lkae4]

I think they have limited production capacity so this helps even out the demand and keep the lines running. Titleist does something similar.

[@mmceldu2]

Great video, love to see all these new drivers compared.

[@atbear]

Jay, thanks for the videos! Great job on your video editing, and of course, the content as always!

[@AskGolfNut]

I appreciate that! 👍👍👍👍👍

[@donkeek8107]

Great review Jay! Made me plan a fitting 👍🏻

[@nigelshaw1417]

Fantastic info with your testing 👍

[@klaymoon1]

Great review!!

[@AskGolfNut]

Glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏻

[@Pud56]

I was fitted for the 430 max, and must be the only player that didn’t like it, found it insipid, might have been a poor fitting? It spun up, didn’t have a strong flight, tried it with various shafts, same result, Play a TSR2, and that’s fantastic. You will soon be reviewing the new Qi10, some thoughts. TM say the new carbon face fits the head better, is that an acknowledgement of a design fault in the Stealth, seems like it in light of the red faces dropping off in their droves. MOI of 10,000, Stealth was 8500 which is now then LS version MOI, also the max plays shorter both in distance carried and length of shaft because of the hosel construction; whilst folk want forgiveness, loss of distance to the tune of 20 yards is an expensive mitigation. Where do I get 20 yards from, I’ve tried it against the standard version, be interested to see your trial when doing your usual excellent all around the face stuff. I wont be trying the Ping, the Titliest is just so good, looks better and trustworthy. Enjoy the next few weeks of testing, busy beyond compare no doubt.

[@marklags2396]

Nope. same here. Went for the fitting (430) and decided to keep my 425 max in the bag.

[@Jacob-ed1bl]

After hitting so many different drivers and being fitted multiple times I feel like the shafts makes all the difference. It's astonishing how different ball flights I get with different shafts.

[@BasementGolfer]

Love your videos! I tried searching for a “face heat map” for this club… but couldn’t find one. What’s the most forgiving spot on the 10ks driver face? I tend to hit high toe a lot with my max 430… no matter how hard I try not to.. it’s still my favourite strike location lol. Just seeing if this one is better with high toe then the max 430. Thanks for all that you do!

[@AskGolfNut]

Difficult to know as I reviewed this driver before the heatmaps evolved. I guess there's always a cut off point where one new measure of equipment starts and leaves some opened questions regarding the old especially when measuring it together. If I get a chance to evaluate the old woods (the new G is nearly upon us) then I absolutely will and include that information in either the new Driver review or a direct comparison 👍

[@BasementGolfer]

@ I’d gather from your review (this video) that’s it’s pretty solid off the toe! Thanks again for the videos. Nobody else I’ve seen on KZbin does the kind of in depth work that you put in for us folk. 👍🏻

[@TLRChad]

Techy video please. I've always liked Ping drivers, but I've never had one in my bag. I may give this 10k driver a go and see how well it works for me.

[@Nico_B_]

Best reviews on the internet bar none

[@AskGolfNut]

Thanks very much Nico, appreciate your kind feedback 👍🏻

[@adambarnes4191]

On paper, this sounds like a must try for me. My SS and launch numbers say LST, but the forgiveness of the Max offsets the LST gains, especially on my local courses that aren't exceptionally long. I'm in a Fuji TR blue. I tried the Black but didn't get on with the kick point. The 10K might let me keep the blue and lower my spin. I guess I better start returning those pop cans for the deposit...

[@AskGolfNut]

Price of modern day equipment is a completely different story and one where I have very firm opinions on, unfortunately it doesn't look like high prices are going away, any time soon 😐

[@GOLFADDICT65]

great review Jay I think this years Driver lineup is gonna very competitive across the board will be tough to choose which brand to go with just wish the prices were not so outlandish 800-900 canadian for a driver is getting pretty steep cheers all from Vulcan Canada

[@AskGolfNut]

Very much so and I think maybe this year rather than performance being the identifier it may well be price and looks as there are some extravagant irons available for 2024 😊

[@freedomfighter5335]

Tried the Ping 10k after no joy with the Taylormade or Callaway range. Was shocked how good the numbers on Trackman were. Ordered one and despite not liking how it looks.. finding fairways is far more important....

[@Carlos-yn2ob]

Great review and I definitely don’t need another new ping driver but…..

[@becrisp]

Great video as usual 🙏🏻

[@charlesbillings5535]

I played g430 lst. What's interesting is the lst has smaller back weight at 23g and still weighs more then the g430 10k, I find the 10k launches a little too high for me, if I swapped out the 28g weight for the 23g weight in my last, would that help lower lainch? I already have it set to 8 deg. I can tell the 10k is especially more forgiving on off center hits, but wondering how using the lighter back weight will affect this driver. Also, would setting it to flater setting would it help with minimizing slice

[@Day_Cee78]

Great Video, would be very nice to have a direct comparison with g430max

[@johnpetolillo288]

Great comparison between the Max and Max 10K! Was looking to put one of these in my bag. I recently grabbed the G430 Max 5W and 3H and I’m blown away on the performance of them. Great looking club at address and super easy to hit. I’m going to have to hit both models side by side and see which one is right for me. Do you think the 10K is warranted with an extra $300 price tag?

[@gerrymcintosh4477]

Great review. Thank you.

[@AskGolfNut]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment 👍

[@danp9646]

Would like to see the comparison between this and the Qi10 series

[@jackwest5295]

I,d love to try it , with a ALTA QUICK 45 ..shaft...in the mean time I am gonna stick with my TSR.3..Brava shaft..Reg 50.. goes like a Bat out of hell...

[@neilbennett9028]

Hi Jay, great review as always! Have you got this in the 9° head for fitting purposes? Also, have you got all the shafts for fitting including the Tour 2.0 Black in Stiff Flex? I haven't been able to try this shaft yet and would be interested in coming to see you to do that 👍

[@AskGolfNut]

Hi Neil, I've currently stepped back from Coaching and Custom Fitting to focus on my KZbin content creation and building that side of the business. It's not to say that I won't come out of retirement 😊 to do the odd but here and there, it's mainly more to me needing to be within a custom fitting environment that goes the extra mile in getting enough extra fitting equipment to give the client the fitting experience they deserve. 👍🏻

[@suprand]

Gonna give this a try. Have a steeper angle of attack and struggle with high spin. But not good or fast enough for the low spin heads (102-105 swing speed) and I have tried them all. This may be sweet spot

[@AskGolfNut]

From a balanced perspective of being a Coach and Custom Fitter, I'd say that it would be better for your golf to spend the money on lessons to tweak driver delivery and maybe have some time to look at other areas of the swing/game that aren't quite as good as you like. The 10K is an addition to forfil a set of heads but won't be able to overcome a swing characteristic that makes them less effective 👍🏻

[@mickeylegalhawk6510]

I got fitted for the g430 max 10 k and ended up with the SFT ping driver

[@grahamdavis8997]

How far would Rory hit a 3 or 4 year old driver? Are his numbers increasing year on year or has his speed changed? A few less burgers or pizzas and more time in the gym?

[@brandond8728]

Great review, do you think this would translate with someone around my CHS of between 135-140 MPH?

[@AskGolfNut]

Hi there, well that would very much depend on what your flight characteristics are and what you need. The Max 10K has a slightly higher launch and lower spin properties to that of the Standard Max. Generally at those club head speeds you'll be keeping a good eye on spin rates and launch angles, so I would firmly suggest that you seek the correct help as you could be leaving a serious amount of distance and usability on the table 👍

[@stephenferris7274]

so what settings do you need in the max to make it a 10k moi? it seems to me the 10k model is longer, straighter and more forgiving, and I would have thought you can manipulate shot shape via the loft sleeve anyway? so it still seems to make the standard max redundant, unless I'm missing something? thanks for all your work on this.

[@AskGolfNut]

The Max is a slightly lower launching and higher spinning head that has the flight versatility in the weighting system without resorting to using the shaft adapter and sometimes there needs to be a two pronged attack with the loft sleeve and the weighting system needing to tag team to produce the required ball flight, the 10K doesn't have that. If anything due to the higher launch lower spin properties it's actually probably a smaller market than the Std Max 👍🏻

[@Oldwiseguy-59]

Their best driver I just can’t bring myself to buy, it is just too hard to look at address.

[@robertbeato2795]

Happen to know the adjustment settings needed for the regular max to reach this? Great review

[@AskGolfNut]

Launch wise it would need to possibly sit at a good 10 if not 10. 5 fro the equivalent 10K at 9 degrees, but the spin profile as such is lower on the 10K than that of the Max so by upping loft to match the 10K, the Max would just spin more and pull further behind the 10K. This is only relative to the actual requirements of the golfer depending on Club Head Speed and individual swing dynamics 👍🏻

[@bigdrews366]

Someone said put it in the fade position and it's like the 10k😊

[@AskGolfNut]

I believe and I could be wrong but I believe the G430 MAX (Std) the 10.5 degree head and weight in the Draw position causes that specification to be just over 10K, although as soon as loft and weight positions move around it will inevitably change the relative MOI 👍🏻

[@us-1961]

Hat the Fitting with this Driver. What shall I say? The best I ever hit. It‘s now in my bag. Check!

[@Andrew-z1z]

What a machine i love these comments i couldn't use it just how it looks 😂 as it sails past hits the fairway inspires with confidence Ping yet again results perfect....she maybe a little large but she aint bad looking....carbon wrap love it ❤

[@colecole4774]

Would love to see this compared to the g425 max that “Total MOI that pushes a record 10,000…” (directly from Pings website) to show why they are now really pushing that it’s 10k when it’s already been done… is it lower Spinn with 10k MOI or what…

[@AskGolfNut]

Absolutely that, really they need to change their message as they have achieved the 10k mark a few times, even the G425 was 10k but only in certain loft and weight placements. The G400 Max was their true first 10k but it wasn't massively long and ball speed wasnt brilliant. The G430 is a true 10k driver but the message should be, now with Higher Launch and Lower Spin. Very much like the new Mizuno ST230 Max Driver 👍

[@pasquilu]

Great video … as usual, you can translate in understandable numbers what the marketing is saying. I have only one missed question: what about the club head speed … I mean, I do not have 110mph :))) … is there a counter effect? I will try anyhow,

[@andersfrederiksen-winnipeg5516]

I’m currently in the G430 LST and spin is just a touch low (averaging under 1,700rpm), even at 110+ mph swing speed. 9 degree head. Would you say that switching into the 10K head would give me just a bit more spin?

[@limey7066]

Very informative video. Should I replace my Ping 425 sft driver? Im always looking for more forgiveness😊

[@AskGolfNut]

If you still need the SFT bias then this driver won't fulfill the same requirements as its not heavily draw biased. If however you have be one much more neutral in you delivery and don't need the draw bias then this Max 10K may well suit you as long as your launch conditions are favourable 👍🏻👍🏻

[@tyschemanski5439]

You mentioned the Max has a weight position that is 10K, but not all of them. What position is equal to 10K?

[@AskGolfNut]

I think it's only the 10.5 degree head and I want to say it's in the neutral position but it was a while ago and I don't remember exactly..... Either way the amount is so ridiculously small it wouldn't make much of a measurable difference 👍🏻👍🏻

[@tyschemanski5439]

Thanks for the quick response! On Friday I traded my 9° TSi2 for a G430 Max 9° with a guy I got paired up with. Swapped clubs and head covers with a handshake and I’m stoked! After a day on the range, all I can say is WOW… It’s so incredibly forgiving and I’m getting as good if not better distance from it than my old Titleist. Will have to get it on a launch monitor to tune the loft/spin. Thanks for the incredible in depth reviews. Love the numbers!

[@AskGolfNut]

@tyschemanski5439 really glad you enjoy the content. Busy day tomorrow, Mizuno JPX925 Launch day. 2 videos and Live Stream tomorrow evening 👍🏻

[@roberthind3394]

So this is a Max LS!

[@mikecook8059]

Do you think if you changed the back weight in the regular MAX (25 grams) down to a 22 Gram weight it would lower launch and spin?

[@AskGolfNut]

Unfortunately not due to the titanium crown, of the Max moving the head CG vertically higher causing a higher spin rate, if anything lessening the weight actually may make it spin a touch more 👍🏻

[@mikecook8059]

Not sure I understand. If you lower the weight of the rear weight wouldn't it move the COG forward which theoretically would lower launch and spin. Not arguing just trying to grasp the concept. Thanks! Love your videos!!!@@AskGolfNut

[@jetro7349]

This vs TSR2 who reigns supreme?

[@lawbinson]

As someone gaming the G400 Max, I love it but I know it goes too high and I would benefit from a lower flying version of it… I wonder if the G430 10k is the answer…

[@AskGolfNut]

Without knowing the intricate details of your delivery, anything I say is based on my best guess but with the slightly higher initial launch but lower spin levels it should absolutely hit the ball with a slightly lower apex height, and with the higher initial launch although minor could lead you to further reduce the loft of the driver benefiting even more 👍🏻👍🏻

[@therookiemistake9714]

Excellent review: What is the minimum swing speed voor this driver? Now playing g400 at 10.5 en is working perfect. But im tempted..😅

[@AskGolfNut]

Hi there, don't think of it in terms of speed requirements etc, that's not down to what shaft been profile you need depending on your loading, think of it more of do you need the flight differences to that of the standard Max. Slightly higher launch and lower spin profile, with just as much forgiveness when you done quite hit the middle 👍🏻

[@therookiemistake9714]

@@AskGolfNut excellent, Thank you

[@grahamdavis8997]

They have improved every model but we still basically hit the ball the same distance.. handicaps aren't coming down.

[@wasteland1212]

What happen if your swing speed is 95mph? Is G430 10K still functional or lose distance due to its natural low spin tendency? Or, do I have to go HL version?

[@AskGolfNut]

Very much so depends on your spin and launch profile. The best way to think of any review that shows how one head relates to another whether it is a higher of lower spinning, higher or lower launching head etc, is how it will relate to your requirements. Spin will always reduce with swing speed but also then dynamic loft will need to also increase to try and launch the ball more, then by upping the loft it will naturally increase spin. Its very much so determining how one head that differs measurably to that of another, and how that will sit within your swing equipment requirements. 👍👍👍

[@lkae4]

95 is plenty. That's my speed and I gamed a Paradym Triple Diamond with a Ventus Black Velocore 5x for much of last year. A quality fitter will dial in the right shaft, loft and golf ball.

[@bigdrews366]

​@@lkae495 isn't fast enough for a triple diamond paradym.... Much less x stiff shaft

[@lkae4]

@@bigdrews366 It gets worse. I had an extra 22 grams in the head with a swing weight of E6. What's the swing weight for your driver?

[@curlymorrissey1296]

Just had a fitting about. 1 week ago, maybe should have waited a bit longer to do it lol This could have been perfect me

[@garrysutcliffe6254]

I had to get rid of my g425 sft gave me far too much spin 4500 rpm. Thought it was just me and my pro couldn't get it under 3000!

[@nickygraham2625]

I’m a woman playing off 2.4 with a club speed of 80mph and swing around 5 degrees in to out (which I’m working on!). Have a stealth 2 but struggled all year with it, despite trying different shafts and settings. Typically have good efficiency (centre or toe hits) but very variable flight paths with stealth 2. Experimented back to my Ping G410 plus at the weekend - all fairways hit with a lovely straight flight but too spinny (which was why I changed!). Think I’ll go back to Ping but hard to find reviews for something more akin to my swing speed (where is Sophie Walker when you need her!). Anyway, your knowledge of these faces and clubs is fantastic - would you think the Max 10k would suit me best (perhaps in a 12 degree to get the right spin window) or would the standard Max be a better option given the adjustable weight? Obviously I’ll test both, but there’s a limit to how much testing you can do so any thoughts much appreciated on what would give me the straightest flight given my swing flaws. TIA!

[@AskGolfNut]

Hi Nicky, firstly congrats on the great handicap level you have attain 👏 👏 With regards to the 10K specifically. If you test the Max and you see a flight that requires a touch more launch with less spin then the 10K is worth testing. If however you are looking to be able to dial in the flight, as you said before the Max has that tuning port of that whilst the 10K is a touch more rigid. From your info you won't want the forgiveness benefits of the heads but what people neglect to learn is forgiveness isn't just the ability to miss hit and hit target, it's also having a more stable spin profile on randomised hits. So I would suggest that maybe the Ping would be a better suit especially if you need that stability of flight but at a slightly higher low spinnjng profile 👍🏻

[@nickygraham2625]

@@AskGolfNut Thank you so much for the sage advice! Just to check - in your last sentence you say ‘Ping’ - do you mean the 10k or the Max? I think you mean 10k but wanted to check!

[@AskGolfNut]

Sorry I should have made that clearer. I meant the 10K 👍🏻

[@nickygraham2625]

@@AskGolfNut Thank you again. Hopefully one of them works!

[@RobertFlynn-i4h]

Do you think the 10k suitable for a swing speed of 82

[@andy_bickley]

The 10k is suitable for many speed speeds, the only question is which version of the driver fits you best , it comes in 9 , 10.5 and 12 degree heads and are adjustable +/- 1.5 degrees. If 82 is your driver swing speed and not your 7 iron. you are probably looking towards the 12D head and then adjusted as needed.

[@RobertFlynn-i4h]

@@andy_bickley thanks for taking the time to reply , from Australia

[@AskGolfNut]

Andy is right, it's very difficult to give an in depth answer as club head speed is just one of many parameters needed before knowing which and what to suggest. Someone's strike, path, face to path, angle of attack, dynamic loft etc is all so important to be able to see what you'll potentially need for your speed and swing characteristics. As a general rule, the slower the swing the higher the loft needed although that's not always the case with golfers that deliver certain wrist angles which cause issues with inefficient loft deliveries. 👍🏻

[@RobertFlynn-i4h]

@@AskGolfNut ok I had a fitting with the 10k last week, and was somewhat confused with the end result compared with a fitting a week before with the tsr1. Two completely different set ups. 10 k was fitted with standard shat length 55reg of the ping shaft loft angle surprisingly at 9deg driver swing speed 82, totally loved it, hitting up 4 deg. Tsr1, denali reg 55 1.25 shorter, and loft set at 11deg, both drivers in different set up producing 2,300, to 2,500 rpms, no wonder I'm confused, trs1 hard off the face like a brick , ping crisp and springy omg mind is stumped with variations

[@albertofernandez-sanguino3373]

Presumably 10k is the MOI number? Just guessing... Also a moveable track would be very beneficial for CoG trackers.... Like me!😮

[@AskGolfNut]

It is, its a measure of Stability in i think cm/gram3 and Ping have hit it 3 times now. The original G400 Max Driver, the current G430 Max but only I think in the 10.5 Head in the Draw weight position and the 10K in all lofts, the 10K is quite an impressive driver 👍

[@albertofernandez-sanguino3373]

Wow! Now THAT'S impressive Will be interesting to see how it stacks up Vs the new TM Qi10

[@mickeylegalhawk6510]

I’d like to see what a high handicapper would do with these two clubs

[@AskGolfNut]

By now, Pings sales of the 10K have been strong so you've more than likely already seen many in golfers hands when you play. I personally don't think many if any will see any gains in terms of Forgiveness but going the 10K rather than standard Max, would see a flight difference as the 10K launches higher and spin slightly less. If a Ping was in my bag it would defo be the 9 degree 10K 👍🏻

[@home4ya]

Jay, will this finally kick my G400Max out of my bag?

[@AskGolfNut]

Only if you need a slightly higher launch and lower spin profile, otherwise the difference in forgiveness will be so small you won't see any difference changing 👍🏻

[@SteveSmith-zz4ih]

Good review young fella. Like others said - too pricey, my rant is - if everyone stopped buying new gear for 6 to 12 months the price would drop, but sheep are sheep personal opinion.🐑🐏🥒

[@AskGolfNut]

I think that works very much so shock the manufacturers into a few thinking sessions about how to change direction 👍🏻

[@grahamdavis8997]

If one was better than the rest, the pros would all use the same one. Trouble is they are under contract

[@grahamdavis8997]

I doubt you or I are hitting miles further than we did a few years ago. Bit like your Mizuno blades. Just cosmetic and marketing spiel. A blade is a blade and drivers are pretty well maxed out.

[@1yehny]

Compare against cobra dark speed max.

[@AskGolfNut]

......... please 😊 I'll add it to the list now I have the DARKSpeed drivers coming 👍🏻

[@adamvlassis4090]

I get bullied for the sound of my g425 max. Maybe I’ll be trading up if the sound is better.

[@mariofonseca9267]

All great …. Except that violent Ping sound that actually hurts my ears. I can’t deal with that unfortunately. Unless you telll me that’s no longer the case Jay?

[@AskGolfNut]

It's totally different to that of the titanium years.... I still have my G30 LST and it's a hell of a nose when hit. Nothing like the modern day muted version that Ping now produce. I wanted to clarify when Ping said its a little louder that in fact it's like saying a firecracker is loud when comparing it to a previous nuclear bomb explosion 😊

[@Rob-oo5lt]

I've been playing Ping Drivers for as long as I can remember - I have just asked my local supplier to trade in my G430 for a G425. Why? Previously I had a G400 Max and the G430 Max is 30 yards shorter. I believe all the Manufacturers have gone too far in chasing MOI and have overlooked distance. Maybe its the Shaft that's Rubbish, we will soon see!

[@grahamdavis8997]

These are your numbers. Is there going to be a difference for everyone. I doubt it. Surely drivers are maxed out now. Just find a fit with head and shaft. They are all basically the same. Hype surely. Pros change because they are under contract as staff players. Look at the 3 fairways they use. Some are relatively ancient.

[@jonathanbarrow1281]

Would you say this driver is worth £550

[@AskGolfNut]

Is any golf club worth £550! 😮 My personal feeling is that all equipment needs to have at least 1/3rd of its cost removed to make the game more accessible for all people. However in a world of rising costs, golf club pricing is just another example of having to pay more for things nowadays. Hence why I do what I do review wise and detail wise to try and give the golfer as much information before purchase as possible 👍🏻

[@jonathanbarrow1281]

@AskGolfNut I'm going to order it its crazy how a price if a driver is the equivalent to a set of irons lol

[@AskGolfNut]

I would, say as, long as you know your spec for this driver (as spec isn't transferable across different drivers) then you won't ev going wrong, the 10k is a brilliant driver and is the most forgiving on the market 👍🏻

[@bknoxx]

how club reviews should be done.. thanks

[@AskGolfNut]

Thanks, appreciate the kind feedback 👍🏻 How long have you been a subscriber? 👍🏻

[@bknoxx]

@@AskGolfNut maybe 2 years or just about

[@TrevorDandy.]

PING performs to be sure. But that is just SO ugly behind the ball

[@AskGolfNut]

I've more than got used to it by now 😊 I actually don't mind it whatsoever 👍🏻

[@midhc5072]

@@AskGolfNutwhen I was fitted for a driver end of 2021, I hated the look of the 425 but got the best results with it. Now, the looks don’t bother me at all. Just wish I’d held on for the 430 launch in ‘22. 🤦

[@MrKillahippo]

I missed the dispersion

[@roba168]

G400-9,900 MOI G425 max pushes 10k 😂 G430 Max 9,000 MOI G430 Max 10k is 10K Stuff is so confusing which to go with as a new golfer

[@hanshuhta8007]

Do all 3

[@grahamdavis8997]

Are you allowed to say it's marketing bullshit? Or are they really better year on year?