PING G700 OR MIZUNO JPX919 HOT METAL

[@Faldo6M]

Just ordered a set yesterday after a fitting. Played to a 7 hcp this year (with a great short game), but needed to hit more greens consistently. Had played Ping i200's the past 2 years with Project X 6.0 shafts, but felt I was struggling trying to work in swing changes over past few months with better rhythm. Note - I was still hitting my 7 iron 160+ yards, but felt I was struggling more than I should be finding consistency. I finally felt there was a good looking (more of a player's) option with the Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal "PRO" version allowing me (and my pride) to gain both distance and more importantly to me accuracy. Trusted the fitter whole heartedly and picked up 11 yards while only seeing a shot dispersion of 2 yards right and left. Was off 7 yards prior and more erratic. Was also surprised to see Mizuno fitting option show the KBS Tour 90 Stiff as the 1st of the 3 recommended options, but it felt great and it ended up being the clear cut winner. Just as a side note that the Srixon Z585 performed very well and would have been my 2nd option. Thanks for all of the great videos!

[@luckyintervale]

Ping for woods, Mizuno for irons... for me at least!

[@grahamtomlin3272]

Many years ago when I was living in the US I had a set of Ping Zing2 irons, perhaps the ugliest irons ever made but they were great to play with. I added a 2 iron to the set and it was awesome, in fact I still have the full set with original grips in the UK and play with them sometimes when I'm back, they still compare well with modern irons.

[@norwegianwarhound451]

Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro vs Ping G410 please.

[@dubby1010]

I don't think ill ever not play mizuno irons, they are always stunning clubs and play amazing

[@darrenmiller1981]

Played Ping for years, most recently G25’s. Changed my irons for 900 Hot Metals earlier this year and recently changed driver, fairway and hybrid to Mizuno - all great clubs and the variety of no-cost customisation allowed by Mizuno is staggering. Still have my Vault 2.0 Voss though, it’s a keeper...

[@joeperez3520]

Was still in bed on the USA East Coast when this was live. I'm using the G700 now. Had several sets of PING 20 or so years ago but have been playing all levels of Mizuno irons since, from MP to the old MX and even JPX. I was curious about the G700 and watched your earlier review, including the part where you are concerned that the "low-spinning" aspect of these irons would be a concern when it comes to north/south dispersion. As someone who is not a highly skilled player, I understood your concern but wondered if that concern would actually apply to a double-digit handicap, who isn't going to have perfectly consistent strike on every shot. After seeing another review that included outdoor testing, where balls had enough high launch and spin to stop quickly on the green, I demoed them (indoors) and saw that my worst swings were only about 5 yards offline left/right. There's certainly a lot of technology in them, as they are longer than my JPX 900 Forged, which are only ONE DEGREE weaker in loft. The only concern, as you had mentioned is that when I absolutely flush one, it.. is.. gone!!! But wouldn't that be the case with most other irons as well. As for that dispersion, I'm finding that I'm actually pretty consistent with them, withing acceptable levels, as a 10-14 handicap. Cheers!

[@tylerlove2052]

Just caught the end of the live this morning as I got ready for work. Lots of fun! Really enjoyed that! The Ping background info was really cool as well. Opinions on Ping clubs are always very strong either way. Worked great as a live vlog. Cheers boys!

[@jayholiday256]

I guess we’re due for a next gen from mizuno. I’m interested in their combo set with 5&6 short hybrids. Just don’t like long irons

[@williamrigaud474]

Thanks Mark, Thanks Dan - I would like to see more of these types of video's.

[@bradgarrett9427]

Great comparison and I really liked the live format. I’d like to see the Srixon Z585 vs Mizuno JPX 919 Forged/Hot Metal or another iron that you would think would match the Srixons well. Thanks

[@MarkCrossfield]

We will try and get in it. 👍👍

[@duanegruenberg9181]

Had a set with large offset and constantly hit them waaaay left.

[@robbiles]

Never really been a Ping iron fan but love the look of there drivers/fairways/hybrids. Don't know why I feel that way considering I've never hit any of them, just do. Love the look of all the Mizuno stuff and again can't say why because I've never hit one of there clubs either.

[@redoneasy]

I used to be a ping hater shanking and fatting my way through any test I did but I had to change my irons and after annoying my pro for hours of testing various clubs the ping just kept out performing everything. Now love my chunky game improving pings makes golf fun again!!

[@MarkCrossfield]

Ping make great stuff.

[@arthuracorn]

Have you compared your worst three shots on each club , more likely to represent a day on the course

[@justinstephenson9360]

Not tried the G700 but have tested the 919 HM - I really disliked them. Didn't like the feel, struggled to control strike (maybe the lack of offset?) but I blame the player not the club! Loved the look. For me big surprise was the 919 Tour which I doubted I could hit, but it turned out to be very easy although the 5i looks so small I would worry about missing the ball completely

[@DavidAllen-ci7gi]

Another great video. As someone who is just getting in to playing regularly explanations of the differences between forged, cast, blades etc are really helpful. It would also be good to get an idea of price point (appreciate there will be different offers available). Comparison between, for example Callaway Rogue and XR would be interesting. Keep up the good work bruh!

[@Elmo4x]

Going to buy the Hot Metals this week. Not the biggest and strongest guy in the world. Should I buy them steel or graphite shafts?

[@Stephenpettitt198]

Please do MP range v JPX range (if you have access to the clubs)

[@infinitygames6028]

I will be happy with either a set of new pings or mizunos for Christmas. But Buckley's would have more chance at getting a new set for Christmas. Any giveways for Chrisi?

[@guylegg5792]

Not watching live but really enjoyed the detail and chat in this compare. However I am very settled with my current set and only watch a compare video out of geeky ness

[@jesseross3794]

just bought a set of the 919's hot metal and love them

[@jesseross3794]

@maverick have now moved to Ping 710's due to increase in handicap -24

[@jesseross3794]

@maverick said - meant +. Ping is better for you

[@georgesmith4639]

Of course the thing that can't be shown in a comparison with only 5 strikes each is the difference in forgiveness for off center strikes. Wouldn't it be nice if someone did reviews with a lot more strikes and maybe showed the strike pattern and the numbers for those strikes. But who's got time for a thing like that.

[@jondoe6618]

George Smith or you could practice and get better so you hit the sweet spot instead of wanting the club to play golf for you???

[@MarkCrossfield]

I have done this and the results are the same. 👍👍👍

[@jondoe6618]

Mark Crossfield no fair puttfield lol.

[@georgesmith4639]

@@jondoe6618 You have no idea how much I practice or what my physical or time limitations are. Not every body has the time you "know it all" pricks have to practice. We have things called jobs, children, etc. Do YOU hit it in the center every time due to YOUR practice?

[@georgesmith4639]

@@MarkCrossfield What do you mean the "results" are "the same"? that the forgiveness is "the same"?? So if a strike is 1/2 inch off-center towards the toe the result is "the same" for both irons? if not then you're making my point.

[@alanturner87]

What about the ap2 vs 919 tour still looking to see a video of them 2 irons #getupdan

[@blakeg.1093]

Currently playing Mizuno 900 Hot Metal but considering a move to the Ping i500, is it worth the change?

[@petermahringer7435]

It would be amazing if you can compare mizuno jpx 919 forged with ping i210 😀

[@tonystewart2237]

Who took the bite out of the heel of the ping

[@petergoodman7805]

Are the clubs standard lie when you test clubs?

[@MarkCrossfield]

No they are fit

[@petergoodman7805]

@@MarkCrossfield are you and Dan the same lie settings. Thanks for the reply. Loving the content

[@jaybyrne4562]

I always find that ping look big and chunky. They play well but really don't suit my eye. I have AP2s but am thinking of going MB cos they are BEAUTY!

[@jaybyrne4562]

@I AM ME ! Hit one yesterday, nice but I prefer MBs! The MBs just feel amazing off the face

[@oldfoggie123]

I must say I like the term "user friendly "....rather than "game improvement"....just been in the shop looking for a "Rinkey!"..I'll let you know how I get on!...cheers Guy's!

[@MarkCrossfield]

Yeah me too

[@robbiles]

For God Sake!!!!!!! How long are we going to have to put up with this new intro?

[@MarkCrossfield]

A long time

[@robbiles]

It's all Dan's fault.

[@Shippey-rg6wm]

Glastonbury please welcome on stage Mark Crossfield.

[@alisondorbie5006]

Love Dan the man!!! Any chance Dan could do a compare between cabbage and broccoli. ⛳🏌️‍♂️😁

[@glennwiebe5128]

With the technology available today, all of the top drivers are the same despite what manufacturers say. Forged irons will always be forged and will stay the same (I hope) and that's why golfers play them. Game improvement irons are where the manufacturers have room to move around. My question to the Muppet Masters is this: have irons reached the same "wall" as the drivers have?

[@gagolfanddrones487]

Um I most respectfully disagree with your driver accessment, I get very different results from different Drivers.

[@bgrritchiet]

Hello Dan and Mark

[@garthly]

To answer your final question: I prefer edited video over live, because I have to watch after, and then, it is a bit painful watching you giving Dan instructions, move the ipad up a bit, etc. Of course I see its nice for those who want to interact with you live, but watching after, less fun.

[@MarkCrossfield]

I can see that and wee will keep working on making the lives sharper. Also remember these don’t get in the way of the normal programming schedule more just a add on to try and interact with the cool audience. 👍👍👍👍

[@sevetierney9008]

Good morning guys

[@paulp2055]

Good info... I like to see your comparisons for the different brands...need to work on Dan's mike situation, very annoying!!

[@MarkCrossfield]

Working on it

[@matthewua1]

Let’s get the Taylormade brand ambassador Raymundo the magnificent involved in the review for the next TM clubs

[@tonyrusso7302]

I really like your channel but, audio for this presentation was bad, the video editing was even worse. Very difficult to watch.

[@leewalford2468]

Not a big fan of ping club s but like the putters

[@gavin6535]

Brilliant 👍🏻

[@donnachalyons3904]

Why would you play a Cast Mizuno Iron???? Surely you'd have to get a Forged Mizzy!!!!

[@MarkCrossfield]

Well they do make great forged clubs but some want that hot metal low loft

Well you are not Clapton Mark but Clapton is not a Mark either 👍👍

[@jcbb30]

Not sure what to say about that intro, it was so upsetting ,your office is a mess 😉. Reminds me of Crossroads(Ralph Macchio)

[@infinitygames6028]

Don't forget peeps you can click on live chat and read the comments from the live chat.

[@brianscrip1917]

if you promise to stop playing the guitar I will subscribe. The sound made my dog howl and I lost hearing out of my left ear for 10 minutes

[@Wanderer1202]

tune that guitar next time! It's out of bounds. :)

[@MLGshzlss]

You just need to start every video with that intro

[@saintpatrick6681]

how odd, likes the Mizuno at address out of vanity strikes the ping better because it has a bigger sweetie. if you want to score better ya gotta lose the ego.

[@richardwigley]

Tune your guitar brah.... giving me a headache. LOL ;-)

[@stuarthartley6824]

ROOOOOCK AAANNNND ROOOLLLLL!!!!!!!!!

[@rotti163]

I am #ping4life

[@k2ombs]

Why release a video where the information is hand held, out of focus, and not framed properly?...isn't the info the point of the video to begin with?...not playing guitar....FOCUS...on the videos point, and pursue it best you can...please. Our time is very valuable as "watchers"...don't waste it...Thanks!

[@MarkCrossfield]

What number are you after?

[@AskGolfNut]

Mark I think you missed the point of my questions..... It was to show everyone just how close they are when you take out the human error side of the data comparison..... 😊 😊

[@infinitygames6028]

Where's Iron Byron when you need it?

[@AskGolfNut]

😊 Their test is still valid as there was enough comparable data to see just how similar these 2 are.... Shame Mark choosing to mock rather than understanding that I was actually helping them make the exact point they were trying to convey.... But hey Mark will be Mark 😊

[@infinitygames6028]

@@AskGolfNut I think Mark understands. With a name like ask golf nut asking about descent angle you sort of walked into that one.

[@AskGolfNut]

It's the name of my KZbin channel so it comes with me whenever I participate in any other channels content. I'm all for this type of content as its there to show people that buying decisions aren't just down to launch monitor numbers 👍

[@MarkCrossfield]

Same launch spin distance land angle won’t change if you tho k about it. Sorry just mark being mark. Still stand by my in video comment 😉😉😉