2022 Specialized Stumpjumper Evo Alloy Review: Golden Retriever Of Bikes | 2021 Fall Field Test

[@andyjonathan2486]

12:19 She on point. These aren’t flyweight XC bikes, and longer dropper posts just makes sense for riding rough chunky terrain with confidence.

[@terr256]

I bought the Evo alloy entry level. It's such a fun bike to rip around and it climbs well! I definitely agree with adding a bigger spacer. It comes with a .2 spacer and I've added a .4 spacer and it feels a lot better. I've just stayed at 64.5deg

[@aidensimpkiss9442]

I got the same bike as you ordered it a bit ago and it's coming January 3rd can't wait all I hear is good things. Can't wait to rip on it

[@sergiolandz6056]

well i hope it climbs well, at that price i would not have low expectations, its 2023 and the bikes have been looking the same since 2017-2018. All they have been doing is changing a bit of geometry and paint colours... MTB world needs to add some spice to their ridiculous price tags because its going to go back to what it was before covid hit. Well its already well on its way there.

[@rla510]

Agree with the video commentators, great analysis. I bought the same model as tested (Evo, Elite, Alloy) in part, based on their assessment. Almost 3 months into bike ownership and I’ve gone back to re-listen and contrast my own experiences. I found the comments spot on and love this bike. The technology and performance is far, far superior to my great at one time but aged 2007 Cannondale Prophet. Making a financial commitment like this is a big one but I’m finally glad I did. I’m enjoying the sport in a way that was simply unattainable with my previous ‘rig’ and riding with the confidence and inspiration I haven’t had in serval years.

[@ish474]

so glad they made an alloy version of the EVO. I'm going to buy this frame to upgrade my 2019 standard Stumpy.... I'm also wrapping it in just about any other color.

[@chamaldealwis9]

Yeah it’s one hideous colour scheme 😂

[@kountification]

to me the aluminum frame is really attractive, there is something more down to earth than Carbone although my current bike is made of Carbone,,, at least it can be entirely recycled over and over...

[@willybrubaker3589]

Really enjoying this whole Fall field test.

[@SalvationsHERE]

I have a Evo carbon that I built up and it's the dreamiest (Sam Pilgrim voice) bike I've ridden. It climbs so well and is a riot going down. I don't see me needing a new bike for a long time, especially since the evo has such modern geo.

[@cvoo5369]

I bought this frame and put all Enduro components on it and it is a super sick bike… I feel like this is specialized’s “quiver killer”. Don’t be afraid to change your GEO often, in 15 minutes with a torq wrench I can go from the setup for a pedaly 20 mile epic, hit jumps, race enduro, or go slack the shit out of it and throwing a 27.5 rear wheel on it for bike park laps!! My only issue is when I take larger hits, big high speed drops, it eats through the travel somewhat quickly, but I think more VOL spacers will fix that nicely. My Build: Factory 38 Code RSCs Stand EX3 wheels Big Betty + Cush core front and back Full GX Drivetrain Oneup 180 dropper Other choice components

[@casioakland]

After watching this review I went and pulled the trigger on the alloy frame and will be building it up with 160 lyrik and parts from my old bike. Really excited to get it going and hit the trails. Great video guys! Keep up the good work!

[@emteebee1872]

Were you able to build it with the 160 Lyrik? If so what’s the approx weight? I’m thinking of building one too

[@jonathanfrucci2633]

Just picked up the S Works Evo frame today for $2500. This bike wasn't even on my radar due to cost previously, but it's everything I wanted. In a size 5 (I'm 6'1" with a good wingspan) I plan to run it in the low/long setting.

[@danieltobias8373]

I just bought this frameset and swapped over my Onyx wheelset and Bomber forks... this thing is amazing! It feels like an enduro bike that climbs as good as it descends!

[@hardtailparty]

Fantastic review guys. Specialized has really been knocking it out of the park lately.

[@kylecomstock2426]

Built up my Cotic BFE Max last winter, hardtail party recommended!! Working on building up my Evo alloy this winter. To many great bikes and not enough time…..

[@vindeta360]

@hardtail party Hey Steve have you made it public knowledge what FS bike you got recently? I think it's a specialized.. I've been curious what model you chose but wasn't sure if you hadn't said anything about it on purpose or if I just missed it.

[@hardtailparty]

@@vindeta360 no, i haven't told yet. :)

[@70h4nn35]

@@hardtailparty I’m guessing it’s this, the Specialized Stumpjumper Evo. Btw I got my first bike, a Fuse Comp 21 recently trying to get into mountain biking, thanks for that review :)

[@dudeonbike800]

@@hardtailparty do tell!!! My 35 year "hardtail party" finally ended in May when I joined the current millennium of full suspension design with an Ibis Ripley. LOVING it!

[@chadhertz4092]

Just got the comp model for my son. What an amazing ride!

[@thim8009]

Bought a polygon, hate it, but I love all the components so I bought the evo alloy frame and swapping over parts.

[@schlicss]

Bought the frameset, hunt wheels, GX drivetrain, one up dropper (insertion depth very short even on S4), G2 brakes. Had a 160 lyrik to swap over. No other frameset comes close to the value of this one. Also come with full headset, not just the angle cups, and seat post shim. You can build a dialed bike when the frame + shock only costs 1900

[@tinglestravels]

This definitely made me feel good about my purchase! Picked up the base model two weeks ago as my first full suspension and I'm loving this bike. I agree with Kaz on the need for a larger volume spacer in the rear for big hits and flow trail. The Float X comes with a .2" spacer in it stock on this bike.

[@ozzmundo1]

Swap out that rear hub asap.

[@adamcline121]

@@ozzmundo1 Although I do agree that it isn't the best hub it still works and theres no need to replace it unless it breaks. No need to make someone feel bad about their purchase.

[@tinglestravels]

@@ozzmundo1 I'll more than likely swap it when and if breaks, get the mullet link, and get a new 27.5 wheel altogether instead of the 29.

[@ignaciosevil2157]

sell it. these is the most unrealiable bike on the market. hope you shop is near your house and you have no problem waiting for motors.

[@ignaciosevil2157]

@@adamcline121 hubs is the least of his problems. this bike suddenly brakes rear linkage of rear shock. Hope that doesnt happen to you at a remote place like me or imagine at high speeds lOL guaranteed hospital roadtrip

[@williamsweet2253]

I bought carbon evo and I like the versatility. Trails, single track, I don’t have any complaints. It was expensive

[@Mockle07]

Specialized get a lot of shit from the ‘cool’ kids who think they’re edgy and “don’t do mainstream”, but they are absolutely killing it at the moment; they have a bike in every category that is class leading or very close to it. Their S Works builds are still ridiculously priced but everything else is not a million miles away and no worse than many others. 👏🏻

[@dudeonbike800]

When I heard "Horst Link" I must admit I was a little surprised. Although it's functional and proven, they've been using the same name for 20 years. Is that the pinnacle of rear suspension design? It may be (I admit to not have been following their evolution recently), but the name wouldn't indicate it. Don't mean to be petty, but in today's market, being on the cutting edge is important.

[@Mockle07]

@@dudeonbike800 Most suspension systems have been around for ages, they have just been refined over the years. It’s very rare that a completely new suspension concept comes along and even then they tend to be simply ‘different’ rather than better. Having a Horst link hasn’t held the bike back, but they are not afraid to drop it where it makes sense to (like the non-Evo Stumpy).

[@lamafourtwenty9711]

And in fact the same carbon frame on the expert and pro as the s works model. I went with the expert evo and boy.... this bike rips. From flatland all the way up to alpine terrain.

[@FlippinEli]

Got the base model last month. 100% agree with it being probably the best value at that price point. Nothing that needs to be upgraded right away, and will probably just upgrade as components wear out!

[@florianspatz7964]

sorry, but getting a NX for that price is just laughable

[@FlippinEli]

@@florianspatz7964 thanks for your personal opinion. Mine is people who nitpick every little thing is laughable. Plenty of bikes at the same price point come with NX, especially with the current market. The suspension spec is better than most sub 4k nowadays, which does not get replaced as often as the drivetrain. To each their own, I guess. Enjoy the trails bud

[@florianspatz7964]

@@FlippinEli yeah you’re right, in the end it’s just about having fun, so enjoy the trails!

[@mikem7618]

I’d love to see the you guys compare bikes of last year with current bikes of the year ! ( Norco optic vs 2022 trail bike winner)

[@farmernat65]

I have a 2020 alloy frame stroked up to 160/160 with a 210x55 Float X and cascade link. I run it in high setting since I live in Maryland and there’s not much super steep stuff. The older frames are more slender and look better without the swat box imo

[@jbw5485]

Same here but mullet set up. Sick set up! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@gabrielcarlothomas]

I had a Pro model S5 and it weighed 31.5 pounds with cushcore, pedals. I broke a seatstay and I am waiting on the replacement, but I got a Alloy S4 to ride in the meantime with the Pro parts and it weighs 34.25.

[@lostboysrideordie]

YT Jeffsey, Santa Cruz Bronson, Canyon Spectral, Specialized Stumpjumper Evo, Yeti Sb 150, Commencal Meta are all trail bikes people actually buy and ride.

[@kountification]

It has become my dream bike and I have a Hightower 20'!!! For me, the adjustable geo is a seller point, also some of the key specs like the One-up dropper and lastly the price his really moderate!!

[@soidk9031]

I am currently waiting for mine(base model) to arrive at my local bikeshop Now i know i made a good decision but also now i can't wait for it to show up even tough it is skiing season in Austria

[@mindy_cycling]

I'm enjoying the video. It's so nice. Thank you.👍

[@jakobpuls5978]

I have the Evo alloy comp. It‘s such a fun bike. The perfect bike if you wanna have one bike for everything. The only thing I don’t like on this bike is the Nx derailleur, it’s really loud.

[@anthonyteichroeb917]

specialized kinda reminds me of Porsche- stubbornly stuck to their system of suspension and fiddled with it untill its perfect. Now nobody really thinks of it, but its a great system.

[@reubenneate3492]

It's clearly a hell of a bike and think because of that and that I don't own one I just want to hate on it but don't know what to point out, thanks Pinkbike for not giving me anything bad to say

[@livingon2wheels]

That's some amazing technology and it's a beautiful bike. I'd love to have a go on that one.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

I want the fork and shock from this on my Trek EX 8 gen 6. Can't afford it right now though. This stumpjumper is on sale right now for $4700 but it is over $6k normally. Great bike for the price if you can get it on sale. Travel though is getting a little close to Enduro with 150 rear and 160 front. If the fork was 150 front this would be perfect for me since I prefer an all around bike. This bike looks like its supposed to fit between an all around trail bike and an Enduro bike which is probably a good thing for all those jumpy ridders. This bike will give you a hard workout going up because of the travel. Not a good XC bike in anyway for sure, but thats the purpose of the bike.

[@brianbass4971]

I wish more manufacturers would do alloy versions and make that the entry level to the line up. Personally, I would mullet it right away and slacken it out.

[@gpearce11]

I completely agree, and after a few years of brand seeming to completely forget about alloy, it's awesome to see again; if the current trends are too be believed, every new Canyon and Transition will be offered in both alloy and carbon going forward. One new trend I'm loving is brands like Specialized and Transition offering not only base model alloy builds, but also high end alloy builds (like this one), for people that still want high specs, but either don't see the need to spend an extra grand on carbon, or want to avoid carbon for environmental reasons.

[@halfgeek1394]

I’m really happy with my Rocky Altitude A70! Aluminum frame with a full XT / Fox factory build out of the box.

[@andyjonathan2486]

Agreed 100%. The last thing I’m thinking about when descending rough technical terrain is “gee, I’m sure glad I bought a carbon frame” as I’m much more focused on picking the best line, braking, looking ahead, etc… As long as the frame is stiff enough, and the shock, fork and tires all do their job, it does not matter at all the material of the frame.

[@Mockle07]

@@andyjonathan2486 I like a bit of carbon, but I absolutely agree that it’s the last thing I’d be thinking about when bombing down hill! Great to see manufacturers offering proper alloy builds and not just making them the de facto “cheap” version.

[@corymcmanues7905]

When I ordered my frame I immediately ordered the mullet link as well. Coming from a Status I've grown really fond of the mullet setup and how it feels on the trail compared to a true 29er.

[@ANTheWhizkid]

Got the last Stumpy Evo - this allows up to 160mm travel - so if you think about upgrading the fork internals to get n extra 10mm... definitely possible. In my eyes it climbs really good. If you upgrade the bb and hub for better friction some day, it becomes even so much more fun. From the last to this version they went a bit bigger on the rear suspension which is a perfect change (the last had 140mm in the back). After all I feel like all the upgrades they did to the frame totally make sense. It has also become a bit more expensive but it´s still at a good price.

[@bimfred]

wait, are you saying the 2022 Stumpy Evo can run 160mm shock?

[@bimfred]

edit: i see you can get a Cascade link

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Ya this generation moved the back to 150 and the front to 160. I think last generation is what I would want over this generation. The travel is getting to close to enduro from all around trail. I want the suspension on this bike on my own but can't afford to spend $2400 total to upgrade mine.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

This bike is pretty much 160mm travel unless you get their smallest size. You don't have a choice in it.

[@Jonathan-456-s7l]

This looks cool, I am waiting for my propain tyee✌️😉

[@iancanuckistan2244]

It's amazing what just a few years make. I have a 3 year old Pivot Trail 429 with 130 front and 120 rear travel. The Stumpy has 150/140. That's a huge difference.

[@jayjayon20s]

As a stumpy owner I’ve been waiting for the EVO review since the fall field test was announced. What a pitty I have to get that frame to make a custom build now 😅😂

[@camdaddymcpimperson]

I have a 2016 Stumpy. I wish I had this one.

[@wyattmullins6349]

Kazimer is a textbook cat enjoyer

[@johanrr4]

It is literally my dream bike! And if I save up for some time I can probably get it now that it comes in a cheaper version!

[@mojowheelz]

I would love the see a review of the ride with the 27.5” rear installed. Might provide some more snap.

[@RomansDowntime]

This is a dream bike for many of my friends.

[@hannesnohl8627]

Alicia is so sweet, very good addition to the team.

[@TrIpMo1981]

Simp alert?

[@hannesnohl8627]

@@TrIpMo1981 yessss you got it.

[@k_mish]

I'd like to see a side by side comparison of The Evo Alloy with the Evo Comp Alloy. The comp alloy comes in 2k cheaper, but on the sheet looks the same....

[@James0the0Bradley]

GuyKesTV has a video where he back to back rides carbon and alloy. I think the alloy is comp but the carbon might be pro. Can't remember. It's interesting though

[@diegovillacrez8349]

I know specialized has come a long way but my 2010 Stumpy still rips, especially after I put a new fox DPS on it.

[@jarnold1789]

Modern frame geometry is phenomenal. Bikes have come a long way since 2010

[@Patbike]

14:53, anyone know what goggles those are? 🧐

[@tonyparkin3379]

It's reminds me of that one time at band camp.

[@crashkid1982]

Just wish they’d realize that the rider group they designed the S6 sizes come with 95kg plus body weight and incorporate that into another shock leverage in the big boi size. It’s still a pass for me - but having them build another linkage S1 gives me hope they understood the issue that not everyone out there is 75kg.

[@MrMartinHattingh]

I’m picking up my 2022 Comp Carbon (but with a Lyrik Ultimate, Code RSCs and carbon Traverse wheels) on Monday. Can. Not. Wait! Have loved my 2019 Stumpy Expert and this just feels like the perfect next bike…

[@norcalchrismeister]

I've been thinking of getting a 22' Comp Carbon. How do you like it so far? My LBS have it in a S4 and S5 and I'm 6'2" so I was wondering what size would be good for me.

[@bigt43]

@@norcalchrismeister did you pull the trigger on that purchase? If you did what's your verdict? I'm also 6ft2 and currently have a 2012 alloy Stumpy HT Evo, now I'm beginning to want a full Susser aswell, and I'm wondering S4 or S5. I do live near a specialized concept store so I may try and see if they have some I can test for fit and feel.

[@norcalchrismeister]

@@bigt43 No, I got a 22' Santa Cruz Tallboy instead

[@alstar300]

I wonder if that snap Alicia referred to would be better with a 27.5 rear wheel and the mullet link. I bet it would

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

The stumpjumper evo elite alloy is on sale for nearly the price of this bike.

[@CreatureSkateboardC2]

Review the 2022 Rocky mountain Slayer

[@justsayin3600]

I've stayed away from Specialized because of the LBS arrogance, and "what a 12k bike is out of your budget?", and then being dismissed. I recently had to get my bike in for a pre-trail ride and they were the only ones that had an opening. There was all new people and the service could not have been better. This experience made a huge difference in how I felt about Specialized.

[@katsaras1]

I love this reviews and Alicia and Kaz are amazing

[@Shoeless_DA]

Just picked up an SJ Evo alloy LTD with AXS for 3500, what a deal.

[@growlinbear]

Im thinking of purchasing the evo elite alloy version August 2023 for $4200 ,my concern is whats in store for the 2024 models . Am i better off wailing ?

[@ertugrul791]

Spectral is next?

[@theguy1633]

Either the SCOR or RAW.

[@MarkJolley]

I have the S-Works and it is the best bike I've ever ridden. I would say though, that comparing the alloy to S-Works it is 100% more expensive, but no where near a 100% better bike. I would be surprised if it is 10% better. So from a pragmatic standpoint, for a non-racer it is kind of hard to justify anything more than the alloy one.

[@MarkJolley]

Side note, I had to replace the shock with a Float X2 Factory because no matter what I did (200psi and largest spacer), I couldn't keep from bottoming out and I'm only 135 lbs. Suspension Syndicate said I could tune the shim stack in the DPX2 (it comes "Trail Tuned"), but I was afraid it wouldn't work and I'd end up buy the X2 anyway so I just did it. Side side note, I also put a Cascade link on it, but it was bottoming out before that. If the DPX2 had high speed compression damping adjustment I may have been able to make it work. I ride hard and jump a lot though.

[@Jgalaski8438]

@@MarkJolley one of the good upgrades with the 2022 model is the Float X over the DPX2. In general, the reviews indicate the Float X are indicating it's just a better shock. Are you running the cascade with the X2? How you liking it? Worth the upgrade for park days?

[@MarkJolley]

@@Jgalaski8438 yes and I really like it. I won't pretend I can really tell the difference in the links though.

[@carlosbarragan6729]

Which water bottle cage do u use ? Sick videos dude!!!❤

[@hostinggeek]

I'm actually considering ending my 27 year hardtail streak for this bike. I'm currently riding a large Fuse, and I love it. My fuse has a 150mm Zeb ultimate and full SLX/XT on it with the stock wheelset. I was going to just buy the frame, and possibly pick up wheels later, since that's what the budget allows. Am I nuts to think I can go from a hardtail to 150mm travel? My last full squish bike was a 96 Zaskar. It was bad enough to make me not want to ever ride a full squish again. Folks have told me to rent a bike to see if I like it, but I won't know in a day. I'm a fairly aggressive rider on the Fuse, and spend a lot of time tailgating full squish bikes down most of the trails around WNC. I've been threatening to do this for a year now. Just not sure what I'm going to get out of rear suspension that I don't currently get out of an aggressive hardtail.

[@mtnbikerva1]

How do any of these bikes ride on flat terrain? Painful? Most of us do not live on top of a 15,000 foot mountain!!

[@prothese9672]

If you the german version I have to take a look at the Liteville 301 MK 15.3

[@felipeesteve3258]

Imagine if they knew that for black friday 2023 the bike is at 3500 usd, crazy crazyyyy. Same model (alloy elite) The base model is at the same price so far, no discount.

[@AC-9883]

This is definitely gonna be my next bike whenever I can get hold of one....and I work for a Spesh dealer!

[@dudeonbike800]

Are employee purchase programs even running? I know they want you on their bikes, but selling at MSRP when there's a shortage is higher priority!

[@AC-9883]

@@dudeonbike800 Not really for the exact reason you mentioned. I work for a franchise but even so I understand the owner would rather sell at MSRP than discount to us employees. Makes sense even if it means I won’t get on one for a good few months myself. Such is life

[@zakedginton8767]

Why do they put roval wheels on all there bikes

[@normalrat]

in-house brand

[@wesstaff2493]

I just bought the carbon version of this bike......never had a carbon bike. Would you recommend a specific frame protection to put on.......ride wrap, all mountain style, or invis? I just want the strongest to give my investment the best protection. Thanks and great reviews!

[@mudkayak6305]

To answer... 63HTA and Mix Wheel ! Also do we really need that funky seat tube to top tube cross member? Its a turn off for me but still would buy.

[@adamcline121]

It's there to increase stiffness

[@mudkayak6305]

@@adamcline121 yeah but personally I find it wierd, not many other mfg are doing it. Regardless, bike is way proper.

[@adamcline121]

@@mudkayak6305 depends on the frame, the way the shock is mounted on these puts more force around that area. You can see that orbea does the same thing.

[@jonundercover]

Nice bike but I’m glad I got the Propain. I used to have a stumpy and it was too soft under power.

[@DanMattice]

Where were you able to find a propane?

[@XeLYoutube]

tips: try not put another sequence-sence "enough talk lets talk about" then next camera with the invite "ok lets talk about" for video editing, try not put 2 time in a row "lets talk about talking about" "ok lets talk about" just a 2 second redundancy

[@vwmk5gtiblk]

Kaz? U can only choose one. Stumpy evo alloy, carbon or meta tr?

[@adamniswonger8015]

I like the bike, but what other bike could compete with the $5600 GX version for less money?

[@rubioe3067]

I ordered the Comp Alloy and the next day I changed my mind and I ordered the Stumpjumper EVO Comp Alloy. 850€ more... I use a Trek DS3, light mountain bike, and i never bought it that kind of mtb (trail/enduro) But, as I readed on the one of the best bikes website, no matter the extra money, I must have that one (the Evo). 🤷‍♂️ Snob, capitalism, expert journalist advice, I don't know, but since frebuary I will I have a stumpjumper EVO Comp Alloy 23 S4 satin black

[@jean-pierrekenil5350]

Thanks for your excellent rewiew. C' you telle me the size of Alicia bike. Please Thanks

[@Mattthetatt]

I am going to go for a process 2023.

[@asgerlimkilde5909]

What word does he refer to at 14:33?

[@nathanpage6188]

Quiver-killer

[@ah4598]

normally I get carbon but this raw/copper paint job looks so good I would get this instead

[@colhutchins]

Potentially stupid question: so is the 2022 stumpjumper comp alloy the first alloy stumpy to have the adjustable head angle? Does the 2021 version have it?

[@teddysnaps4786]

noticed matt had on some different cranks by the look of it. Was there an issue with the cranks it came with?

[@gan3651]

What tires were used for test

[@khand187]

How would you say this bike compares to the Commencal Meta TR?

[@gagecollina8346]

Aluminum enduro next?

[@tejas.darwin]

Please hire a pro sound engineer... Nice review!

[@KerenWang]

I think not recording in a wooden hut against wooden doors would already help a ton.

[@karlasolano7794]

will this bike fit a 5ft 6in man?

[@tinshield]

Specialized has a size chart on their website. Likely you’re looking at an S3 size

[@TRISHYXX]

This or the Ibis ripmo af? Theyre both in the same price range

[@lacrosse4higher]

Might buy the frame and put my 140mm 36 on it

[@SJ-ef4pv]

I looked at one today S4 size alloy version so surprised the Weight of the bike .. can’t notice it ..... I rather have alloy over carbon seen them Break too much ..

[@Tequila628]

Surprised Specialized didn't equip the bike with a SX or NX mech.

[@dairymilk5679]

Ha, the comp model has NX. I wish there was a model in between. And actually in stock.

[@Tequila628]

@@dairymilk5679 Why SX or NX mechs are even being made? These mechs DO NOT do their jobs. They are a complete waste or resources.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Lol well slow down this is a 6k+ bike and it has a GX drivetrain lol. The suspension kind of makes up for it. Still should have been an X01 drivetrain for that price.

[@vicwiseman6038]

A trail bike is 130-140mm. All mountain is 140-150. Enduro is 150-170. Downhill is 170+

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Exactly though I'd say XC bikes do go up into the 130 range. The Ev0 now is a downhill/Endro (same thing) bike.

[@lloydranola]

Golden retriever indeed!

[@andyjonathan2486]

SBC needs to release a matt yellow edition named the “GR.”

[@HavokTheorem]

Same issue as your last video, EQ the bass down on the vocal mic.

[@mattes3183]

I wonder what it’s like to ride with 63 degree head angle. Does it make the seat post angle too slack and the reach too short? I mean there must be a reason why other manufacturers just offer adjustability within a relatively small range. 🤔

[@hannes6114]

Wouldn't the seatpost get steeper? When the bike gets lower in front? I think other brands don't offer that much adjustability since it takes a lot more engineering and make it easo for themselves with only a flip chip.

[@mattes3183]

@@hannes6114 Nope. As long as the front triangle stays as it is. Usually slacking the head angle makes the saddle move back while the bottom bracket moves forward. In case you use an adjustable seat stay (maybe flip chip) the BB also drops.

[@adamcline121]

@@mattes3183 The reason specialized was able to achieve such great adjustability was because of the headset cup. By changing the angle there it will essentially isolate the head angle and not affect the other geo numbers. Most other manufacturers only offer flip chips in the linkage seat-stays etc... which will intern slacken the bb and shorten the reach when the head angle get slackened and that is why when using those adjustments it has to be done in small increments. Hope that helps!

[@DavidFoundCo]

Headset cups in the slacker mode do steepen the seat tube angle bc the front center gets lower. You can also slacken it by putting a longer air shaft in the fork or flipping the chip in the back but those two methods do make a seat tube angle slacker

[@brianfitzpatrick8481]

Anyone on an S1 bump their travel up to 160mm?

[@wernerprost6624]

this is the best climber i cant belive that ( its not all about the weight ) :D

[@Jgalaski8438]

It was the feel. In the propane review they talked about how the bike felt like it lurched forward. But wer surprised that it was 4th on the efficiency tests. It has nothing to do with it being alloy, the data and rider experiences are just very different.

[@wernerprost6624]

@@Jgalaski8438 Thats true but the numbers dont lie so i was very surprised

[@Jgalaski8438]

@@wernerprost6624 sorry, I kinda miss understood your post earlier. Im ultra surprised too TBH. Been trying to figure out why that might be the case. A thought I have is that on the propane, pedaling actually had a shock extension affect (anti-squat > 100%) which gave the feeling while seated of being thrusted forward in their seat. Another thought is the test methodology. The test is done on a road with likely a 3-4% grade. Lots of MTB climbing trails are double that. That could change the weight balance of the bike causing more rear suspension sag. I don't know, I'm just happy because I was hoping the stumpy would be efficient climber. Building one up for next season. 😁

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

I doubt that with a travel very close to an enduro bike. If I wanted to travel I would get last generation or one of specializes all around trail or XC stumpjumpers. This bike will make your legs explode trying to go up. This bike going downhill should be allot of fun with all that travel.

[@note2self628]

We finally get a good light weight alloy mtb. Same price as carbon………

[@ianbarthelmes7223]

not with this level suspension, the pro is 8600

[@youthinasia114]

The bike is cool and all three of you look related 🤔

[@TxRedneck]

Now I gotta sell my 2021 Commencal Meta HT AM Esse. so I can get this! Thanks for shoving me over the edge. :rofl:

[@jarnold1789]

Woah woah pump the brakes, don’t ever sell the Meta HT

[@alexanderwald2046]

Sram Codes a work-horse component? Damn!

[@jasoniannone9675]

7:47 Wouldn't you want to use the travel you have on a plush bike? Sounds pretty neutral. I think the problem is that 150mm is just too much travel.

[@illgazillion]

Seems like this replaced the 2021 Ibis Ripley AF. When that came out, seemed like everyone was blown away just like this bike. I have a friend that just bought this bike as her first FS. She absolutely loves it.

[@tinshield]

It's called an "All-Mountain" bike or "Up-Country" :-)

[@ANTheWhizkid]

thankfully the stumpy evo is the more aggressive and down hill oriented version of a trail bike. :D

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

The Evo is a downhill bike with all that travel. It's no longer a trail bike or all mountain bike.

[@tinshield]

@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 wrong

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

All these people calling this an all mountain bike even though it has enduro travel. Would like to see some times comparing it to other all mountain bikes. I bet that extra travel they gave it this generation is going to take away from its ability to go up hill. Really wish people would review and sell this bike properly, its starting to get misleading how this bike is being pushed.

[@doktorhunggari4415]

2022 Orbea Tallon. 🙏🔑✌️