Stumpjumper vs Trance X vs Mojo vs P-Train vs Blackthorn: Round Table Discussion | 2021 Field Test

[@BikingwithJP]

Any time I hear back injury I tense up... 2 weeks sleeping on your stomach is lucky, took me months to walk again and 10 years to get back to biking. Stay safe everyone!

[@BulbManLUV1374]

Jeeez thats a bummer sorry to hear that happy your on the bike again

[@hunterwright386]

Oh that’s nasty! Keep shredding (safely)

[@BikingwithJP]

Thanks! I was crossing a road to get to a trail and hopped up too soon going over a curb, cased it on an angle and tore ligaments in my spine, tore a disc and damaged another. Not pain free today BUT biking is my motivation and I’m a better rider now than I was then! Thanks all!

[@oskarstaudte]

Really glad to hear that you're back biking!

[@katahdincloud9803]

Broke mine flipping a bike when 19. Been back at it for last 25 years loving it.

[@theDayOfAccount]

Yeah, the stumpjumper surprised me too... IT'S $9000!

[@jsv438]

Hey, Stumpjumper EVO Expert lists for under 5G. It's got thinking--even though only 29's for 2021 models--I might like that over the SC Bronson

[@davidz6576]

I also checked out the Stumpy evo and the cheapest Carbon Version is 5400€ and has a Fox 36 Rhythm... I mean?! That's a fork id say is okay on 3k Bikes or so. There are 4k Carbon bikes out there with Fox 36 Factory and Factory Damper in the back. And better Brakes aswell. What makes Specialized and Trek so ridiculously expensive? I would love the bike but I just can't bring myself to buy something for double the price i pay somewhere else for same components

[@Cgibbo84]

Before taxes

[@davidnicholson6680]

I'm glad you clarified that you were discussing performance in Squamish. Most people don't have access to that level of gnar.

[@WattOnWheels]

Enduro-Bros will completely omit that piece of information and claim they need the P Train for there home trails now even when the tech level is nowhere near Squamish.

[@thelittleewokboss9929]

@@WattOnWheels enduro bros get enduro bikes not trail bikes

[@jennifersandoval7525]

Toss out the Trance X which was more a test of the Live Valve. We still don't know how a regular Trance X would perform? Toss out the P-Train. With only 20 made yearly, why is this bike in the Field Test? Ultimately, it was a 3 bike Field Test.

[@AndrewStOurs]

I have A trance X adv pro 1 (the one below the one with live valve). I still climbs like a rocket ship and you can take it down anything and it literally feels like you have more control then a reign. Live Valve killed the review. Grip 2 all the way

[@toddmullis3249]

@@AndrewStOursas a fellow Trance X owner I would have loved to see the non live valve reviewed. Bet it would have given the stumpy a run for it's money and it's way way cheaper. It has great geometry so with the standard high end fox suspension I don't see how it couldn't be at the top of the heap.

[@jacobpoucher]

great comment these guys always pull crap like this. its kaz's idea id bet. dudes a tool.

[@sonofawil]

@@AndrewStOurs, I don’t even know what the live valve is but I’ve been looking at Giant’s Maestro suspension linkage and what makes it unique and I’d like to hear your opinion about it’s performance, specifically pedal bob and kickback characteristics.

[@maxwalker9990]

Jason Lucas isnt real prove me wrong pinkbike

[@justind5262]

I saw him at the shop yesterday, checkmate.

[@dylanlarose6964]

@@justind5262 I put him in the shop check check mate

[@ethanbenton6676]

he's an ai hologram

[@jasonmoodie2016]

@@dylanlarose6964 I put him in this earth check check check mate

[@dylanlarose6964]

@@jasonmoodie2016 I made the universe check check check checkmate

[@Ilovethisaccount500]

I liked this test a lot, even though I can't buy a ptrain its awesome to see how something like that compares to big brands

[@bk83082]

It would be interesting to see a head to head comparison of the alloy framed Trance and Stumpy as a supplement to this field test.

[@Z0NED_]

Agreed, I'd like to see a normal person comparison between the two because the giant wont have live valve and the specialized with have a normal non-flex pivot

[@lamefart]

The Trance without Live Valve and with Grip 2? Point it down, it would give that Stumpy a run for its money..

[@phrides]

Yeah, or at least the mid-level carbon versions. With the Horst link, that alloy Stumpy could be more like the 2020 version than its 2021 SWorks littermate.

[@bk83082]

@@phrides that's why I said as a supplement to this. Wouldn't make sense to review another carbon stumpy.

[@zufrisally4941]

Guys, the only two bikes we (the general public) know and are familiar with are the Stumpjumper and the Giant. Can you please do a review on popular trail bikes ? Canyon Spectral Trek Fuel Scott Spark Giant Trance X Specialized Stumpjumper Polygon Siskiu T8 Which all have similar specs ? This would be the greatest review ever !

[@L4J20]

So, in reality...the 2021 Stumpjumper is the winner! None of us reggies will get a Acto5

[@youtubeaccount9058]

Yeah they're making, what, 20 worldwide? Nice to include for potential future directions, but irrelevant as far as "maybe I should go get one."

[@princehumperdink1266]

@Bob Longhorn 27.5 wheels make up a big part of that I'm sure.

[@bk83082]

The odds of somebody named Reginald getting an Acto5 are low.

[@VincentJGoh]

Oh yeah, because so many of us have the scratch to buy the Stumpjumper. :D

[@phrides]

@Bob Longhorn He didn't really say that when he was reviewing it. It's got baby tires and is poppy and playful, so it's almost a different class of bike despite having similar travel. There's not an Ibis that is a direct comparison, as their 29ers have longer (RIpmo) or shorter (Ripley) travel than this batch of bikes. I would be nice to get a between years comparison with the Ripmo and the Switchblade getting a head-to-head comparison with the picks of the bunch here.

[@brennanbeltrano295]

Now on to the enduro/freeride bracket, what we've all been waiting for!

[@sandhus643]

I just bought the Specialized Stumpjumper Expert, I totally love this bike.

[@mikeocksmall6513]

Just ordered exactly the same 👍🏻 how’s it ride?

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

Still riding them ? I'm about to pull the trigger.

[@Hendricksb123]

I’m disappointed the live valve Giant was reviewed. I’d love to see an update to the Giant Trance Advanced X using the level 1 model. Would you please do a review of that in the future, if one ever becomes available.

[@willeaton2592]

Pinkbike is amazing! Netflix level content for free. I love these videos.

[@11leonidas11]

Does the Giant climb, like say, a rocket ship? 🙂

[@mikepupach5461]

From what they said only the top level gets the live valve. So I would assume lower level giants wouldn't ride/climb as well. Not a very well rounded test. Very subjective to where the riding would be done. I will never get to ride squamish so none of their opinions mean shit to me.

[@aljowen]

@@mikepupach5461 I own a base model 2018 Trance which is a different bike, but similar suspension design, I suspect their verdict would actually be similar. The bike climbs great, and pedals great. On flatter (by flatter I mean elevation, not devoid of features) trails it feels genuinely fantastic, it just flows and feels right. Personally I love it on the downhill sections too (obviously I would say that), but its geometry isn't as long/low/slack as many other modern bikes so I suspect it probably doesn't fair so well comparatively if your goal is hitting trails at race pace, its also likely less confidence inspiring on steep gnarly stuff. I guess my takeaway is that Live Valve just makes that effect even more so.

[@dangingold]

how many times can he say rocketship?

[@tomreilly880]

Despite the ending comments, I'm pretty impressed by the Mojo. It was only 5 seconds behind the Stumpjumper in overall time on that gnarly of a trail, and it has the funner wheel size. It was handicapped with a much lower drivetrain spec. and the wrong fork. I'm assuming the fit damper didn't have the intended traction tune--in addition to not being as good as the grip damper. I'll take a more agile bike to have fun on if it can do that kind of a trail with a less than 5 second deficit.

[@biznatcho7]

They mention in the web review that Mojos going to customers will get the GRIP2 not the FIT4.

[@mountainlessbiking3268]

My flat pedals might be inferior in every way but I’ve never had to go to the hospital because they tried to murder me.

[@th_js]

@Bob Longhorn They're safer than you think after you learn the proper technique to get out of them. Only place where they are terrifying are going OTB and looping out.

[@gregsaujat3725]

@@th_js even in those place if you rode clipless a couple of years it’s not a problem. For example I hit a stone in a downhill and that stopped my bike but my body just reacted instantly and I jumped over the bar and then run a bit and honestly it would have gone the same with flat pedals

[@th_js]

@@gregsaujat3725 True, but in some places it's just not possible

[@gwenramage8419]

@@th_js Once I went OTB out of my SPD clips on a rocky cliff, but managed to do a complete front-flip and land on my feet. But I've also fallen over at a standstill with egg beaters about 10 times...

[@areed020]

I love these video series but it would be great to have 5 bikes from some of the larger bike brands and then 5 from some small to mid sized brands that you can actually buy. Same comment goes to the XC test series from earlier this year. The P train is cool but that should have been its own review since no one can buy it. Would love to see other small and mid sized brands get a better shot

[@ddcycleman]

Mojo 4 for me. I’m an east coast , slow tech trail rider. I Value a light flickable bike over plow. Put in the order last night.

[@mikepupach5461]

I currently ride a Turner Flux with the dw link. But I am also looking at getting a new Mojo. Sure I won't be dissappointed. I also ride mostly east coast.

[@mannyfnsc29]

Nice. I'm on the east coast too (NY) and have my Mojo on order. Hopefully I'll be getting it this month 👍

[@ddcycleman]

I went for blue, you?

[@mannyfnsc29]

@@ddcycleman I'm getting the "dirty board" white.

[@mannyfnsc29]

@@Jacob99174 The dealer said they had a fleet coming in, so I put money down on one.

[@keton9685]

Nice now we can see the slash

[@Hugo_Helgas]

I want to see the Spindrift 🙋‍♂️

[@th_js]

I want to see the Shore

[@keton9685]

@@th_js yeah the shore is forshore a cool bike

[@rekamniar]

Does it come down to the wheel size? I mean, tiptoeing on the trail was the biggest con for the ibis mojo and not with the other bikes

[@bhbdvm1821]

Curious how the Stumpjumper would compare to the Ibis Ripley. Understand slightly more travel on the Stumpy but everyone talks about how well rounded the Ripley is. Any comments/observations with that question?

[@FlyEaglesFly333]

The Ripley is a far better climber, almost xc like efficiency. The Stumpjumper will be slightly better descending and more confidence inspiring at speed and through rough stuff.

[@zakvargo9147]

@@FlyEaglesFly333 i agree about the Ripley, believe it or not

[@aidanmitchell6018]

The p-train might be great on the descents, but this is a 'trail bike' test... So would you not be better off just getting a longer travel enduro bike, and/or an actual trail bike depending on your needs & wallet size?

[@youtubeaccount9058]

If the Live Valve is so great for pedaling and so crummy for descending, I truly don't see why a remote lockout (possibly wireless) wouldn't be the way to go - yet none of these bikes has one, do they? They're always saying, this or that bike pedals great, you'll never bother with the lockout, then they test something with automatic adjustment or digressive travel and suddenly gush about how well it pedals.

[@dereklangerud446]

I was hoping to see Tansition's Scout in this batch of bikes.

[@sirfixalot]

I just ordered a Sumpjumper today, quite happy about the decision :)

[@DUNEATV]

I got the S5...love it!

[@sirfixalot]

@@DUNEATV picking it up tomorrow 🤞

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

Still riding them ? How are they ?

[@sirfixalot]

@@LemonySnicket-EUC no, i traded for the Evo. The less is more BS doesn’t work for me.

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

@@sirfixalot that's what I'm thinking as well. I'm about to pull the trigger on maybe an evo elite or so.

[@anderssryanssons]

Stump for the win for sure! So happy with my Pro model in Switzerland’s gnar!

[@HandlebarVentures]

Guerrilla Gravity trail Pistola! 150 lyric and 130 Push 11-6 is the ultimate do it all trail bike for me!

[@gundamnit3594]

After what i've heard about the stock shortages it seems I'm just as likely to get an acto as I am a new stumpy or stumpy evo lol.

[@AnomieX]

You're right about that, all of our vendors (Specialized, Scott, Norco, Open) are out of pretty much everything, and as of this week aren't showing that bikes will be available until next March at the EARLIEST, with some models out until October of next year!

[@aaronbehindbars]

I had my Specialized dealer place a backorder on a Stumpy Expert knowing full well it will be Spring at the earliest. Thankfully, my Camber Evo is still rockin' right along and will get me through until then.

[@jacejenkins8813]

I was curious as to if they would feature any commencals like they did with there field trip, would’ve been nice to See commencals High end Spectrum of preformance. I also didn’t expect anything less the the S-works Stumpy 9ish grand and that thing better be a perfect bike.

[@jaysmallen3067]

I was bummed when specialized went with backcountry. No more specialized for me, but I'd love to ride a commencal! Sweet bikes and the company seems pretty cool as well.

[@RedRockCrawlers]

i'm looking real hard at the stumpy. I'm ready for an upgrade!

[@pauldarylx]

Hoping we can get hardtail tests too

[@logan2892]

Facts

[@sonofawil]

Does the Maestro suspension on the Trance live up to its claims of active suspension throughout the travel with no pedal bob or kickback?

[@JohnBarrosoPereira]

Ok, so it is between the Ptrain and the Stumpy… That being the case, there’s one thing that would definitely tip my scale; For as much as I want to have a bike underneath me that will inspire all the confidence in the world, and will allow me to enjoy riding my bike, I also want to have an easy buying experience, and if I understood correctly, the Ptrain is a “frame only” product (or “frame & shock only”)… So, not only I’d struggle to build a bike that would be as good a trail machine as the one (built and) tested by you guys, but I highly doubt that I’d be able to keep the build as economical as an “off-the-shelf” Stumpy. As we all know, trail bikes get ridden pretty hard, and are not necessarily cheap. With that in mind, having a bike with warranty, is very important for most people, so the added peace of mind that would come with the Stumpy, would add the ease of choosing between both these bikes. I’m sure that the Ptrain is a blast to ride, but if it was my money, I’d go Stumpy.

[@Qwerty-ro1hr]

Exactly what we need, more people on a Stumpjumper. I want something unique, not what everybody has, Acto5 or Salsa for me.

[@benasquith26]

The Acto5 is very unique, only 20 will be made this year, perhaps they’ll make more next year

[@claysmith6019]

Salsa here!!!

[@buildtestflyrepeat9428]

That’s true but there’s a reason every one loves Specialized. Between the insane warranty service and the frame design they’re arguable one of the best

[@claysmith6019]

Haven't watched it yet but Blackthorn for the win😂

[@lukelackermayer]

I really like how you did the trail category ...and the enduro which is sweet!

[@trudelrene-martin8176]

I’d like to see more bikes. Commencal TR, cube 150, kona 134, devincy django or troy...

[@maafa21MustSee]

Please please please run the course without live valve on the giant

[@mrmischievous]

How different is the 2021 stumpy compared to the 2020 version, as someone who rides east-coast technical single track

[@stephenmitchum5864]

People that buy $9000 bikes could not care less about media reviews. Someday a media outlet will start to concentrate on the bikes that most riders can afford, when they do that will dominate the industry.

[@spacedoutboy404]

For me, the real question is stumpjumper, optic or izzo?

[@devinbyrnes8058]

Seeing how bike shops have started requiring payment before even building the bike, so you don’t get to throw a leg over before testing, this review is disappointing. The Specialized uses a different suspension type on the carbon bikes, so Aluminum bikes can’t infer anything. The Giant bike review is based entirely around the LiveWire shock, and the P Train doesn’t exist. So basically, you only reviewed 2 bikes to help people make purchasing decisions on. 10/10 for entertainment, but low marks for using this review to help make a decision.

[@devinbyrnes8058]

@Bob Longhorn well... I gave Pink Bike a 10/10 for entertainment; I guess I should direct my low marks for the bikes selected towards the manufacturers themselves then. Good points Bob.

[@pepeanza6187]

Why always testing the most expensive ones, the trance 2 or 3 aluminium and the stumpjumper in alloy that kind of bikes is what most people want to know about it and there sold worldwide, the other brands kind of hard to find

[@DUNEATV]

I got the S5 alloy Stumpy...love it!

[@carlosduran4893]

Hey mike levy I like to ask for your opining about two bikes, I like them both , stump jumper pro and revel rascal xo1. What’s better bike in your opinion I really like both and I can’t decide what to get

[@ryanbuchan3158]

I would like to say that the Giant was the only one with control tires that were OEM tires. I personally feel like OEM tires are not grippy as the real versions, what do you think pinkbike?

[@ryanbuchan3158]

@Bob Longhorn yeah it's the same with pretty much all other OEM parts also.

[@poetika3477]

I just got myself 2 new specialized ones the epic and the stump jumper. I am super exited for them but I ll feel like the Stumpy will be so much more fun. But the epic is just better for mountain rides etc where you just have to go up all the time

[@basstrom88]

Given how well the Stumpjumper fared, I think an important factor to analyse in future would be whether that applies to the entire 2021 Stumpjumper linup, or only the carbon flex-pivot models. For example, would the alloy model with the more traditional pivot have fared as well if it had similar level components?

[@31acruz]

Some reviewers said the new Stumpy design climbs better but sacrifices the "plushness" it had before, not as smooth. Did you find that to be true? (I am looking to make a purchase so obviously it's an important point of consideration)

[@kurnik2462]

I must say I love watching your file test, and I hope that next time trail category will be “trail” oriented. Each year trail category is won by enduro oriented bike. Last year Pole Stamina, this year p train... nothing wrong with having a blast riding downhill... but winer should be most versatile trail bike and if necessary to do time laps, which are not relevant for me, which include uphill, downhill and everything in between in one lap. But I must say that I love slow motion hucked to flat!

[@fbombtehgr3at]

No winner bike was declared in this test, which is how it should be. Each bike had its pros and cons.

[@kurnik2462]

@@fbombtehgr3at you know their favourite bike and main capability why so.

[@chriskerr4961]

I jumped up and made my wife watch the beginning of the video. This is my 4th week after landing hard on my multi tool and fractured my rib in the back. By far the most miserable injury I’ve had in years. I whined so bad my wife and daughter were making fun of me. Sleeping was the f/ing worst.

[@alecfotsch3533]

I'm reall curious how you think the aluminum stumpy would be different when it comes to climbing? Would it still be a well-rounded bike?

[@iopusor]

The AL still uses the old horst link. Which isnt as efficient when pedaling. Got the "old 2019" carbon version with the horst link its not the best pedaling bike to say the least.

[@theferociousmuncher1771]

When are you reviewing the spindrift?

[@bradymtb]

Whens the mystery bike reveal?

[@maxwalker9990]

I reckon it will be the new SC nomad...

[@hunterwright386]

@@maxwalker9990 I agree

[@bk83082]

@@maxwalker9990 I guess it could be, but why would they make it part of the 140mm trailbike field test?

[@maxwalker9990]

@@ultimatepu5h SC usually drops an updated bike every 3 years...

[@gixxereater]

@@ultimatepu5h not here, but plenty of talk of it on SC FB pages etc.

[@mtbohana]

On the Stumpjumper the flex pivot is on the chainsaw not the seatstay.

[@Rickmac22]

Spot on review! Thanks guys.

[@jeantonygagne2698]

I dont know what to buy in between the trance 1 x29 or the trek ex 5 what would you get

[@gregmossed]

It would be preferable to see bikes that aren't so incredibly expensive being compared. And "roundtable" feels a little silly with 2 people. But I did appreciate the candor in the review.

[@17even]

Not a lot of commentary on the Salsa. Curious about that one.

[@maafa21MustSee]

Also would love feedback on how the giant rides downhill with the chip flipped

[@mikepease9858]

Yep. I'm also curious what would happen with a non-live valve version. Additionally, I'd love to see if they took the next level down and had the shock tuned by Avy or Vorsprung. How much of a difference does that make?

[@SA-rx2ms]

What bike would you guys recommend for a beginner mtb full suspension

[@nikkotate7541]

Would be interesting to see how different the new all cnc’d alloy P-train would feel on the climbs. As an owner of a rather heavy Stanton SwitchbackFS I wouldn’t worry at all about the slower climbing of the P-Train and would go for that. No non recyclable carbon is a massive plus too.

[@youtubeaccount9058]

But the carbon is what 2kg of material? All the bikes probably come with more packaging material than that.

[@nikkotate7541]

Not hard to make the packaging recyclable.

[@gravitybass]

"East Coast US, not quite as rowdy" Snowshoe and Windrock would like a word with you.

[@niteryder50]

Need review of giant with normal suspension. Wonder how it cimbs with normal suspension.

[@Powerhugful]

When are we going to see the bigger bikes' tests?2

[@Drogos79]

how different alloy stumpy is? have my deposit on alloy comp

[@danielgrafik]

So. Obvious question: What would happen if you combined Fox Live-valve with the P-train!? 🤔

[@th_js]

A P-train with Fox Live-valve

[@MK4vDubbin]

A P-Train with severely diminished downhill capability that pedals kind of okay uphill. Sounds terrible.

[@wolfranger1682]

I have an 160 160 Enduro bike on East Coast USA Works for me to much travel most likely Yes but it Feels better to me

[@bigboybiker]

@mikelevy , dim the lighting a bit. We can almost see through you!

[@amarroopra1678]

Giant Trance is a killer , its a really good bike for its price it competes against the expensive bikes in every spec its a all rounder up / down hill trail , enduro and also Giant make lots of parts for other bikes and bike companies .

[@guibat97]

That intro😂😭

[@kylemiller5442]

How did you guys choose these bikes? some of them seem so random/niche to the majority of consumers

[@pinkbike]

A lot of it depends on what we can get, what's new/interesting, and what we haven't already reviewed during the year. Sourcing bikes for this Field Test was particularly difficult due to product shortages from many brands.

[@kylemiller5442]

@@pinkbike Im actually really glad you replied and that makes a lot of sense. I didn't consider that the supply chain was still in shambles at this point. Here's hoping next year is easier

[@svssvs9848]

I just wondering why the Devinci Troy is not a participant

[@tflannel2393]

How about this. If you are only going to run one model year trail bike test, then run data on the most popular model/price point sold and then that is the price point you test on. I just find it hard to believe there are that many $7,000 to $10,000 bikes sold versus the 3000 to 4000 range. If you can run two trail tests a year then do it on the most popular price point and the cream of the crop models. Take this same theory to all mtb types.Just getting back into Mtbs and catching up on the models.So if you are doing the theory above then thumbs up. If not perhaps its something to think about.

[@thesupernad]

For the cost of live valve it should be built with grip 2 not fit 4

[@justinsiever710]

Sick videos guys keep it up

[@brettimberlake6129]

id love to see a couple videos of bike checks of the hosts personal bikes

[@alexandergoodfellow1968]

I'd like to see how the 5010 would fair in this test.

[@Kev.in-Bike]

Good vidéo. Nice test 👌

[@doodle0007]

Can u guys make it more realistic and review mid levels rather than top end models. Thanks

[@litchips]

3 out of 5 are single pivot bikes? Looks like the industry is going back to basics. Threaded BB's and single pivots.

[@fabiojones4157]

There’s only two also not sure if the p train is actually single pivot cause if not that would leave just the stumpy. Plus the flex stays are definitely new technology so I don’t classify it as a regular single pivot

[@litchips]

@@fabiojones4157 Both are single pivot because there is a rigid stay from main pivot to wheel axle. There are Horst link flex pivot bike from Cannondale, where flex joint is on chainstay, but Specialized put theirs on the seatstay, so it's single pivot. Which tells me that Specialized was only pushing Horst link for the exclusivity while they had a patent on it, not because it was better than single pivot.

[@carravagio16]

you can hate on the big boys all day but truth is big red S makes killer bikes.

[@earljamesbarilea2447]

Stumpjumper is good but expensive

[@Jan07362]

Iknow p train hell yes on decent but long term that weight will matter

[@grantchandler8294]

would definatly love to ride that p train wow

[@gobofulll]

I guys did not really say anything about the salsa and that was the one I really wanted to know about

[@c_semm_shredz]

Hey hey hey... the east coast is way nastier than you give it credit. Remember the term “east coast jank”

[@jaysmallen3067]

I haven't been there, but have seen some gnarly videos.

[@scrugcsc]

So it’s a no on HT pedals I take it 😬

[@kotelettschweiss7811]

Belt driven systems next? :D

[@maafa21MustSee]

Did he wrestle in the past?

[@brennanbeltrano295]

Didn't Levy live in Chilliwack? The Mayor and Dark Matter are as hard as anything on the map in squamish.

[@jebronlames9061]

Wait levy rides xc?

[@THRENO82]

How tall are you? Stumpjumper s4

[@prslol1]

Says 5'10 in the review videos

[@micheandmikey]

Shocked and wanting to know the difference between Levy & Kaz on the Ibis (Squamish vs Bellingham).

[@kuma_score7536]

the P-Train just went from my Dream bike to my DREAM bike!!!

[@jaysmallen3067]

I don't know why, but whenever someone says,"It doesn't pedal the greatest up..." And then they get that smile right before they tell the down story. I love those bikes 😂

[@ericmillar5238]

Nice bike review.

[@trailblazeratv6306]

Giant maestro is always the best. It’s just a matter of what comes in second place

[@braddehaven8828]

I am a maestro fan but I know someone will comment about this reply.. in a bad way!

[@clmfilms8103]

I'm thinking of getting a giant trance 29 3, is maestro really that good? Edit: I'm just worried about the fact that people tend to say that the maestro can get overwhelmed on rougher terrain

[@daswienerle3018]

the longer i look at the ibis, the more i don't like that frame with that silly looking triangle thing

[@yaacovG]

stumpy 100% (s-works).

[@Happy_Shopper]

It's dawned on me just how much Levy looks like Zuckerberg.