SethTheProgrammer VS Discord Debater on Kirin being Light Speed

[@Pinpins]

yes

[@mrpurplejeans]

Debate ssjryu1

[@ChamsNp]

Debate Chams

[@DallSmick]

No

[@mustfalldown7871]

@@ChamsNp I heard this chams dude is absolutely garbage at everything he does

[@KingAnubyss]

Teach me father

[@mememe4188]

Every bad debater Seth meets has a mic just as trash as their argument.

[@joshhood6660]

and they always say “LET ME FINISH”

[@Flamevortex-ky6xh]

To be fair he should let people finish

[@joshhood6660]

@@Flamevortex-ky6xh to be fair people should a real argument instead of making up bullshit trying to debate. in the beginning he literally asks the dude if he thinks it’s the return stroke, the guy answers “could be or it couldn’t be” so then seth cuts him off to explain lmao it was justified

[@whist1221]

He definitely shouldn’t if they’re shotgunning or misrepresenting.

[@SIRAJPRODUCTIONS]

@@joshhood6660 well people don't have to bring a real argument lmao they can just bring some bullshit if they want to

[@Shxnkzwrld_]

This is almost as bad as when afro senju said "How is it light speed? there is no light!"

[@mightyso9281]

Lmao

[@fluff6811]

That’s just depressingly dumb

[@fluff6811]

I’m almost convinced he doesn’t know how sight works

[@too_official6194]

But where is the light

[@roleiosports3695]

Guy: "I feel like I'm talking to a wall" Seth: i feel like you're dumb as hell 🤣🤣🤣

[@Nyehhhhhh]

read this as it happened lmao

[@adib2219]

@zane petree SAME!

[@d0minate926]

HE UPLOADING A LOT GUYS

[@davinci4299]

Is this real

[@debunked2923]

WE EATING !!!

[@d0minate926]

@@debunked2923 yessirrrrr

[@lordescanor1365]

Man I feel for Seth, he is fighting a literal moron. What was the phrase? "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" - Bill Murray

[@rememberme3762]

He would be dead if he was stupid. 😐

[@lordescanor1365]

@@rememberme3762 A lot of people are alive despite being stupid. For example Trump supporters, flat earthers, and anti vax.

[@rememberme3762]

@@lordescanor1365 They are not stupid their just missinformed.

[@lordescanor1365]

@@rememberme3762 Misinformed? Well that may be true but only people lacking of a brain could blindly follow a leader who has failed once, believe the earth is flat because they don't see the earth's curve from ground level, and be anti vax by believing everyone who is not a scientist and accepting all the trash info.

[@rememberme3762]

@@lordescanor1365Someone could score better than you in an IQ test and still think of something in a way that you would call stupid.

[@sueoshea2131]

The other guy: "zetsu's been around forever" Also the other guy: "white zetsu said it can't be dodged" Me: "oh, so your just wrong"

[@nourelsayed4769]

ITACHI..! Zetsu is so fucking bad, the weakest Naruto character. Oh, Esidisi.

[@arcseven7132]

The virgin nobody: “Are you happy now?” The chad Seth: “Yes.”

[@KaiserReb]

Cringe

[@shafferhelfer3509]

@@KaiserReb Ikr lol

[@WaitYourNameIsRagnarok]

It was stated by like multiple people that Kakashi cut through lightning with Lightning Blade at a very young age. So why wouldn't others be as fast or faster or their jutsus? Especially as the story progresses and discussing about the rival to the protagonist.

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

They discuss this mid debate

[@leneouse2263]

You don't have to be as fast or faster than lightning to cut it

[@Dwood777]

Because it's never described how he cut it, however. He could have just sat their and use raikeri has a conductor to attract lightning, and therefore "cutting" it. Not saying that's how he did, but it's just as credible has saying he ran up a hill full speed and sliced it. Which mainly came from a filler scene

[@oreoex-rwbyhater599]

When theres no evidence to go off, your supposed to take something at face value till evidence is brought uo. Otherwise everything is purely just assumption

[@kane3j336]

@@Dwood777 there’s a episode where he traveled to and cut it & he didn’t think he had chakra left. Young kakashi empty chakra > lighting speed

[@Malik-dm8ms]

He literally said he didn’t know what an exponent was

[@VolatileViolet]

That's not enough of a reason to clown on the guy, but he is an idiot, yeah.

[@reecio1600]

@@VolatileViolet it’s a debate he’s going to be aggressive to push him into corner

[@reecio1600]

@lan abraham it’s basically Kirin is light speed, maybe the argument is due to power scaling the Kirin can be or is light speed

[@reecio1600]

Actually they don’t say light speed exactly they say relativistic I think I haven’t watch in a while

[@JuiceboxGM24]

this debate ended in less than a minute lmao

[@Reality-Distortion]

"I was kind of a meanipants in this video" I already know this is gonna be good.

[@kindasomeviews]

this what it looks like when a lvl100 chad beats down a lvl2 virgin with 500 lives

[@ryuzakisimms1019]

Seth of the sharingan is once again underestimated.

[@relaxinpeace4734]

Nobody: Seth: HE IS KAGUYA

[@1thecoolgeek]

FACTS lol

[@kingtanto4]

🤣

[@cosmos2870]

These few uploads are rays of hope during these dark times. Praise the father Seth for his mercy and grace.

[@stephenasunnamedsource2943]

Around 16:00 is where Seth realized it was no longer a debate and he was disagreeing just to disagree 😂😂😂

[@AsterDXZ]

Bro, Seth must've had this dude on 200% on discord to even hear half of what he's saying. How is it possible in 2020 to have a mic so bad?

[@Taijuu1]

danm seth three uploads thanks for blessing us

[@Taijuu1]

@Dhdhdh sksj I'm sorry i didn't realize it was pinpin but at the time i made this he uploaded three vids and the rest after

[@kensin3152]

@Dhdhdh sksj comedy ha

[@SOULAANI_]

@Thomas Houghton woooosh

[@SOULAANI_]

@Thomas Houghton not cringe and i @ the wrong person, i meant to do it to the original person

[@br3ishe]

Okay i thought Seth was being mean at first but nah fam is slow

[@thedisliker9212]

Why would that justify being mean to him? He needlessly called him a retard. Someone can't magically control whether they are mentally slow or not, and if you think its its okay to be rude to someone based on that then you're a morally bad person

[@thedisliker9212]

Why don't you learn some morals

[@hectortapia4412]

@@thedisliker9212 right and wrong is subjective in this world full of imperfection and opinions, through the law of technicality, and yah I'm sorry I really got no business here, and I even kinda don't disagree with you, I feel like he could have been nicer, although I just had a slight problem with the learn morals statement, and brought up that technical law.

[@thedisliker9212]

@@hectortapia4412 I see where you're coming from, and a lot of what we learn is kinda subjective. It upsets me whenever someone calls someone else the dumb needlessly, and I would say that it's only right if the person is being an asshole or purposely being bad faith rather than being more mentally slow and not getting it as someone who used to be slow and is still slightly below average in IQ. I think that calling someone dumb or retarded in an argument is wrong in cases other than those two because people can't control things such as IQ, and it can be discouraging if they are looking to debate for fun, to improve or have a genuine conversation. That's where I come from at least. Everyone has a different learning curve and cognitive abilities, so I don't think people should be called retarded for it even in a debate

[@hectortapia4412]

@@thedisliker9212 I think you are right, it doesn't change the the law I mentioned simply due to personal belief, I guess I just also come from a perspective that, to debate in a place where fun may not be taken into complete consideration, especially if you know how the person your debating is, you either prepare for something obvious, such as name calling, or remove yourself from a situation, especially if it makes you feel bad, hell maybe address it, unfortunately, sometimes we just have to learn peoples nature's accept they won't change, at least easily, and through acceptance we feel less angered by ones words, because being angry in a way is a form of self harm, which let's the other win, it's unfortunate.

[@1nsaneme973]

This video was EXPONENTIALLY funny.

[@juanlodri5964]

If you are having to define what "exponentially" means that's a wrap...

[@martendo67]

YESSSS SETH THIS WHAT WE BEEN WAITING FORRRR

[@lighttheprogrammeryt9173]

Damn another one for daddy goat seth

[@nathansoquar1379]

Light the programmer???? SETH U GOT A FANBOY

[@josiahjones7654]

@@nathansoquar1379 yes

[@nourelsayed4769]

Are you her brother? :OOO AND YEAH! IT DEFINITELY IS ANOTHER ONE LMFAOOO!

[@splitsecond8356]

Crazy thing is, is I've debated this guy and beat him as well on Bleach being lightspeed.

[@myst2761]

Proof

[@splitsecond8356]

@@myst2761, he was on a server I was on. He was on Clyde's server (when it was public)

[@mememe4188]

@@splitsecond8356 let me guess he tought they were as fast as a cheetah?

[@TheJoJSooS]

weird because bleach consistently goes from supersonic, ftl+, to mtfl

[@shadowlegend2948]

ULTimaK1ng bleach is easily ftl

[@karansharifi3894]

Christmas lowkey hit early

[@jaxwolf438]

"Hagoromo can't dodge Kirin" I'm done 😂

[@Sonic-hq9zz]

Lmao

[@mememe4188]

Am I the only one who finds it funny how people think manga authors don't do any kind of scientific research when they write feats for their characters?

[@TonioQuo7]

It's because they wouldn't do it themselves and assume nobody else would

[@kz_cloudz721]

@Maurice Johnson I've never seen multiversal Naruto, I've only seen Uni - Uni+

[@lo-rezastronaut3714]

@Maurice Johnson yeah I’ve only seen star level to Universal for naruto

[@TheJoJSooS]

@@kz_cloudz721 naruto/boruto twitter

[@kz_cloudz721]

@@TheJoJSooS Twitter is full of R**ards

[@godman1117]

“Zetsu thinks kaguya is weaker then random humans” 😂 I doubt that mr random from discord

[@davinci4299]

14:08-14:13 ah yes lighting>lighting

[@trollking4058]

Interesting point, but have you considered lightning

[@lo-rezastronaut3714]

@@trollking4058 are u dumb lightning >lightning

[@stephenasunnamedsource2943]

Lighting÷(Lighting>Lighting)+Lighting

[@trollking4058]

@@lo-rezastronaut3714 You must be living under a rock to believe lightning >lightning =lightning>lightning

[@yazu3X16]

It would actually make a lot of sense for Zetsu to be wrong about Kirin. If it was his first time seeing the jutsu being done then there’s no way he would know everything about it from one display, let alone who can and can’t respond to it.

[@SuperDababy2]

He just doesn't know my power

[@yazu3X16]

@@SuperDababy2 That too lol

[@luciferpitchblack3217]

The Nine Tails is the only Biju that actually mastered their chakra or at least came close to doing so the rest has all of that power and don't know how to use It !

[@Darkkaimera760]

Am I the only one who was thinking about the Monster Hunter Kirin instead of the Naruto one before clicking?

[@strider_hiryu850]

It's lightning, so it's as fast as lightning.

[@kulien9957]

This guy's voice is awfully similar to jon zherka.

[@Idealist_Metaphor]

Best ending or any debate I’ve ever heard!! 😂😂

[@Justin.ol9]

This dude didn’t know that black zetsu is legit kaguya🤣🤣🤣

[@nathansoquar1379]

I like your words, magic man

[@dannysdungareedanceoff8481]

How does he act like he accepts the fact that chakra amps your speed yet still acts like it's not proportional like The grades of Ssj instead of like mastered Ssj

[@GojoSSJ]

I know this has nothing to do with their debate but you could scale Kirin to 10 times lightning or even 1% light speed using the estimated size of the mountain/hill or the standard elevation of cumulonimbus clouds and the 1/1000 of a second statement.

[@coolguitarchannel]

This gave me aids, but also healed me of aids.

[@grooviigroovii4119]

We need some black clover content Julius vs kira(the balance magic nigga) Nozel vs fuegoleon(i think nozel has it) Yuno vs noelle

[@D-Havoc]

Haku is lightspeed? But doesn't that mean part 1 Sasuke is also lightspeed or near lightspeed to be able to intercept Haku's needle barrage on Naruto or tag his pants with Fireball Jutsu? Just curious because it has me baffled.

[@lo-rezastronaut3714]

It’s stated in the data books had he wanted too he can go light speed The reason he didn’t Is cause he didn’t want to kill naruto and sasuke

[@D-Havoc]

@@lo-rezastronaut3714 Now was that just the text blurb that sometimes exaggerate things or was it the actual information text on the character of Haku just like how Safe Art Storm Release Light Fang outright uses the term "speed of light"? Because there's a difference between those types of context.

[@lo-rezastronaut3714]

@@D-Havoc nah that one is legit

[@KaiserReb]

Don’t rely on databook it’s hyperbole

[@GeneFOX70]

Seth upload Obi Wan vs Kakashi reaction

[@redblue9832]

Last time I was this early goku agreed to marry chi chi thinking it was a food.

[@EJ-so5ql]

Seth Lariatted this guy away

[@rushawnpatterson2728]

Kirin being light speed was kinda iffy, the plot kinda ruins it. It was stated to be literally lightning, during naruto and saskue final fight , saskue used kirin and pinned naruto to the ground , the same naruto that should FTL to MFTL reaction speed but you could argue naruto being off guard and caught by surprise or PIS

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

If it was only lightning, then the characters wouldn’t be shitting them selfs over it kid kakashi can casually cut lighting while tired. It’s amp he’s clearly changing the form into a dragon no lighting is just a dragon

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

Nah Naruto wasn’t caught off guard he literally has six paths sensory, we see him block things from behind and even in kcm1 he can serene people from the battle field In base sage mode he felt every ninja in the village at the same time.

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

Vs itachi tho sasuke has no chakra to amp it so it was only lighting speef

[@MatthewCJoy]

Pretty sure that moment was anime only. Could be wrong though.

[@karma1507]

@@MatthewCJoy It was. In the manga Sasuke only used kirin when he fought Itachi. That whole thing about Naruto getting tagged by kirin was basically filler.

[@mustfalldown7871]

I'm convinced you forgot to post our debate we had on among us on why I wasn't imposter

[@alyx669]

@The D4C Gang People who say saying "Cringe" is Cringe are Cringe

[@alyx669]

@The D4C Gang *Sadness & Sorrow plays*

[@flygonkerel781]

so zetsu can be flawed in his information about itachi. but were siupposed to take his statements on kirin to be gospel truth?

[@sayless7141]

I wanna debate Seth Chunin exam Lee beats chunin exam sasuke

[@dawnbreaker1775]

You’re talking about post Chidori training right?

[@Wbshadowgames]

He would tell you since Lee in his 5th gate couldn’t break Garra regular sand armor Sasuke would be stronger since he got through Garra twice with his chidori including in his tailed beast form , something similar to that lol

[@DavidA.21]

You would lose

[@indrainspace2601]

My last two braincells have officially left after hearing this man's arguments. This video feels like it should have ended at the 4-minute mark but my god...

[@dommjr7]

Can we get another swag vs seth debate but no about naruto or dragon ball since u guys probably agree in everything in those two shows

[@nunya5230]

The thumbnail fire

[@beefjiggler5665]

This was such a stomp.

[@scorch2172]

The one dislike probably be that discord guy

[@dannysdungareedanceoff8481]

Why'd he google it? An exponent is a number that signifies how much a number is multiplied by itself The definition was so complicated it didn't even help

[@sphere2375]

You're both wrong, lighting in Naruto isn't either the return stroke of the speed or the minimum. Naruto has lighting calcs that give different results.

[@ykoijin1310]

Debate him

[@sphere2375]

@Ultra Instinct 94 Debate him on whether or not lightning in Naruto is all the same?

[@mconcepcion752]

Seth sounds like he's talking with a retainer in this video

[@nathansoquar1379]

Kaguya apparently is not black zetsu

[@adg_azygaming3741]

This debate ended before it started

[@rosurobosu8546]

if you sit down and calc the speed you need to have to hit the ground within 1/1000th of a second from a logical height for the clouds, the lightning needs to be as fast as 5-20x the speed of an RL downstroke

[@rushawnpatterson2728]

I would've conceded the moment I heard a guys Mike this fuking clear

[@maximusmarquez5660]

No views 3 likes balanced as all things should be.

[@Elikage]

where does he post these temp discord servs bruhhhh i have sm questions to ask seth

[@noctis8851]

Are you a god ?

[@trollking4058]

I see you're a fan of solo leveling as well👍

[@ANDROIDAPEX]

What does it mean that Zetsu not kaguya? He literally describes himself as her will.

[@siirgeatz613]

Seth: My debates is running at your stupidity at the speed of light, it’s not rocket science you dingus

[@vshojoiscringeasf.gooutand997]

Prime Example of more chakra = speed is Night Guy.

[@frankwalker4428]

Kirin was literally stated to travel at lightNING speed, NOT light.

[@anthonyzidrashko8236]

How do people without chakra or with very little chakra (Guy, Lee, and some samurai) move faster than those with chakra, do they not prove that it is possible to break the gap and even surpass the gap between those with and without chakra to certain extents , and if they do prove this wouldnt it be possible for a ninja with less chakra to be faster than a ninja with more chakra?

[@NxtJahfya]

Can someone show me the scan saying the raikage is light speed.

[@krs1297]

He's lightspeed

[@NxtJahfya]

@@krs1297 I understand that but can I get a link so I can show other people because when I research it I can't find a scan that says that is true

[@NxtJahfya]

@null constelation doesn't show anything

[@NxtJahfya]

@null constelation thank you I believe I found something. The main problem is near the speed of light is the only one I'm finding

[@NxtJahfya]

@null constelation thank you

[@elrockuchiha715]

@pinpin why did you say itachi is lightspeed in this but claimed he showed no feats that he was lightspeed in your debate for minato vs the akatsuki? jw bro

[@Seq15]

Cuz seth isn't a genuine debater. he debates to win the argument even if he contradicts what hes said in previous videos

[@heartlessjay490]

​@@Seq15yeah cause that's outside of debates basis where he can say what he can or wants

[@nihilisticexistence6903]

Yes daddy seth

[@LostTrigger]

seth fans eatin good tonight

[@SuPaNoVaYt]

Bro is for ever a legend

[@isaiahannexstein5378]

A fuking smooth brain this guy is

[@giyu3371]

Debate Revolushane please!!

[@relaxinpeace4734]

did i just read a title about a lighting bolt being light speed?

[@Notfunnydk]

When does naruto vs ichigo drop?

[@Aura-kw8zq]

Where tf that sasuke vs lee vid

[@rushawnpatterson2728]

Kid saskue vs kid lee?

[@Aura-kw8zq]

@@rushawnpatterson2728 yes

[@rayquaza4924]

@@Aura-kw8zq that debate is in seththeprogrammer vs aeroflame

[@Aura-kw8zq]

@@rayquaza4924 yeah I just found out I kept skipping over the vid because of the thumbnail

[@coolboiiuzumaki8281]

If haku's ice mirrors made her light speed, why the FUCK wouldn't a LITERAL Lightning bolt be the speed of light🤣🤣

[@Awoken0]

Because lightning travels much slower than light.

[@Sonic-hq9zz]

Him*

[@alidrumcover8208]

Is kid naruto faster than part 1 kakashi if kid naruto has more chakra? (no kyuubi amp)

[@alidrumcover8208]

Or is kakashi only faster than naruto with chidori? (cuz chidori amps speed)

[@alidrumcover8208]

I think what you're trying to say, Seth is having an increase in chakra would increase all your stats linearly, but u made an inaccuracy saying someone with more chakra than someone else is faster without doubt. (speed amp jutsu included or not doesnt matter)

[@alidrumcover8208]

OR a way to still make Seth's arguement correct and accurate would be to say kid Naruto had the capacity to be far faster than kakashi, but (similarly to the bijuu arguement) didnt know how to use his chakra to that extent. GG Seth wins

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

Kakashi

[@iGotEggs]

What is your stance on Vegito vs Kefla?

[@rushawnpatterson2728]

Vegito stomps (if current goku and vegeta fuse), kefla stalemated with gohan via manga , but if you're talking about black goku saga vegito I have no stance since vegeto was going toe to toe with fused zamasu who stated by him that he killed all the gods but the only reason I think kefla even pushed goku as far as UI and one shotted him in blue was because he was severely depleted and weakened already but that's just my personal belief alot of guys would no diff me

[@jayglizzyxgaming8812]

@@rushawnpatterson2728 fused Zamasu didn’t actually beat the gods it was base Goku black who did that by killing all the kais. Do you think base Goku black solos gods, yet is weaker then ssjb goku who can’t understand the gods powers and was shitinh them self over them

[@anthonyargueta131]

@@rushawnpatterson2728 manga kelfa and anime kelfa are two completely different entities in term of power. Manga has different scaling then Anime

[@jonshukulli6944]

@@rushawnpatterson2728 in the anime kefla stomps top scaling is like infinitely above the black arc. The manga vegito takes it. Current for either continuity vegito would take it as well.

[@thatoneguy8604]

Anime Kefla claps Black Arc Vegito negative difficulty, a Current Vegito or a hypothetical ToP Vegito would clap Kefla.

[@jelaninoel]

Cant even hear the other guy

[@dragonknight1560]

I mean Kirin is Lightning Speed but nearly all of the best Naruto characters are lightning timers, Itachi being one even when he's DYING. The other guy did try... but using Zetsu (depending on which one because White Zetsu is supposed to be not as "smart" as... Black Zetsu). Point is other guy's screw up when he changed subject to point out that Kirin is Speed of Light. If it was, Itachi would likely be dead because Activate Susanoo and move his mirror shield up to BLOCK the LIGHTNING DRAGON attack. I would have submitted until I use the Anime only Kirin catching and pinning Six Paths Naruto. ... It was funny though.

[@ryanbrown9833]

That scene when naruto got hit by Kirin wasn’t in the manga tbh, so he can just say that it’s not cannon.

[@TheJoJSooS]

@@ryanbrown9833 even if it was canon he couldn't use it in this argument because the guy is using the Kirin in the Sasuke vs Itachi fight

[@Flee_Lee]

Lightning doesn’t travel at the speed of light

[@murrayddonald]

I should come up with a stupid idea to have daddy seth destroy me on camera

[@QuestionYourWorld]

People watch the anime and think THATS their real speed.

[@dommjr7]

I don’t understand calcs but its very fun to listen to

[@kel.saucy1133]

So is it is lightspeed cause you didn't directly say it was or not?

[@KareemSav]

Bro how do I get up here and debate with Seth....

[@dgoonsworld5519]

How can I get in a debate with you?

[@CaptainAnonymous]

Seth forgot to poop before this one

[@briantesquivel2965]

Trying to debate Seth the programmer is so annoying. He speaks as if he's better then everyone when its like cmon bro, is being a pseudo intellect really that flattering on top of that he brings in a bunch of yes men into his discord who laugh at every one of his little jokes lmao. Let's talk about how the universe was created and sput out continues facts without having Google at your fingertips

[@joshhood6660]

there was no one in this video besides seth. and you’re so stupid you can’t even type normally foh

[@GrandStyles]

Bro you just posted cringe. I’m halfway through the video and have no idea how he hasn’t bowed out.

[@watchery.819]

The wasn’t even a debate, man just asked the same question over and over, and asked what does that mean, then goes oh well that’s what I meant then still gets it wrong

[@nourelsayed4769]

He got it so fucking wrong lol. Base Naruto... when he was a kid in his full power he can dodge Kirin. (Proven in a guide). When he was 16 he fucking let it hit him?! When he was against Pain he can one-shot the curse mark. Due to the intense speeds, having Susano’o being faster than Kirin by 1.5 Kirin got MUDA MUDA MUDA..!

[@coolbeans7222]

Would’ve said gg well played in the first minute

[@aodoemela]

how can we join seths server

[@aodoemela]

@YoungHmmm $3 and its a deal

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@aodoemela as far as I know just become a member and he invites you

[@dommjr7]

Do u get good debates are they just u stomping all the time

[@midesoyibo5420]

Which part is Seth arguing for?