2011 Ford Edge, Hesitation, Misfire, Flashing CEL

This vehicle had extreme hesitation, misfiring, and low power, all due to a simple ignition problem. This diagnosis was heavily based around the test drive, and covers important methods used to identify causes of low power conditions. Techniques used throughout the troubleshooting include...
Ford's cylinder contribution test.
Using O2 sensors as a guide to misfire type.
Analyzing primary ignition waveforms.
Staying in the driver's seat.
Using freeze frame data to duplicate fault conditions.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Well done! Very clear explanations, good pace, easy to listen to. Great scope captures too. Looking forward to more vids :)

[@pinpointautomotiverepair1592]

Thanks so much! Doing a live diagnosis and filming is quite challenging I'm learning, but guys like you set the example to strive for!

[@whoisoofy]

If you pay attention, Cylinder 6 hit -11

[@turboflush]

Good video. Well explained. Sub earned.

[@maisoncory4967]

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[@griffinenoch8030]

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[@firefurygaming875]

Just bought an Edge same year, Limited instead of SE, same engine. Changed out all parts you recommended here, as well as fuel filter, runs beautifully at all times now. Thanks a ton.

[@saurabhohri6220]

hey how you replaced fuel filter is it inside gas tank

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

I don't know how that could possibly been shown and handled in a more professional manner than this. Lucky customer to have you.

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

@Keenan Adriel 🖕Now you know.

[@cdurkinz]

Thank you! I have a 2013 Ford Edge (123,000 miles) and I'm having the EXACT same issue. I knew it had to be spark plugs, coils or fuel injectors so obviously I went with the cheapest first, plugs. Got the front three it felt all better immediately after but now after a few days I sort of feel the hesitation back a little. The back three plugs are gonna be some work as you obvisously know. I wish I had one of those diagnostic computers, because if it ends up needing coils too it's going to suck taking the entire intake plenum apart again to replace the coils. That Snap-On Verus Pro D10 looks awesome, now I want one! Don't have the money for that right now though lol. Either way thanks for the video, it at least helped to reaffirm that it may be the plugs.

[@omegasupremez2832]

Having this problem with 11 edge limited

[@davidristow6939]

I have brought my 2011 edge in everywhere and as usual it never does this when getting it scanned Thank You so much this is exactly what my car has been doing, My first thought was ignition oil and plugs but as I said I've brought it in and the exact scanner was used but not as professionally as you took the time in filming and explaining. I thank you again for your time and helping me and everyone else with this issue. I will be doing the work tomorrow.

[@youtoobe169]

Your videos are interesting. I stumbled on them by accident but enjoyed watching!

[@nursesheris8777]

Thank you SO MUCH for posting this my 2011 Edge is doing the same thing exactly but I noticed it only does it while on the highway at a cruise speed and also when I accelerate while traveling it has never done it at slower speeds or at idle off to the shop I go with your video and the car manual my service engine light also was blinking during an acceleration as I tried to give it fuel to push past it then it stayed on for a bit then the light shut off

[@sikchopper]

Fantastic video! I wish you were my mechanic. I have a 2011 Ford Edge limited . So this video was helpful

[@BeADad2447]

Think it's easier to diagnose a patient than a modern car! Great video. Incredible knowledge. 125k miles is nothing on these cars. Mine has 225 with only a bad alternator. Great cars mine is a 07.

[@galopadilla9731]

when yo scanner cost more then ya car😭

[@andrewk778]

Another great video. You have a nice presentation style, and your diagnosis are detailed and logical. Thank you.

[@enriquesanchez2508]

Awesome explanation of the case. Specially for non mechanic people like many of us.

[@jonathandanish2455]

Good video and very good explanation for a non-mechanic like myself! Thank You!

[@Synthetech]

Great video! My 2011 Edge started these exact same symptoms and same Cylinder #6 misfire CEL code. I now understand that what my car's computer is doing is sensing the plug not sparking for an instant... So it is intentionally shutting that coilpack down for a moment to protect the coil from high voltage flyback and the computer itself from high voltage damages. It then turns the coilpack back on after a predetermined time or change in readings, such as a lower engine rpm. I guess if it didn't shut down the pack, I would see a CEL, but the car would probably keep running fairly smooth... but electronic damages could be happening subtlety and eventually pop a FET inside the computer.. Then it would be a much bigger problem! I thought the same thing as you... swap the coilpack to another position and see if the misfire code changes positions. Thanks again, my car has 113k on it and I'm sure it simply needs a "Tune Up". Unfortunately those back 3 plugs and packs will be a lot in labor and parts cost :(...

[@mmmpoetry]

Synthetech my 2011 is doing the same. How’s your car now?

[@TheMasterofTruth]

Awesome video man- super informative & easy to understand! Appreciate the in-depth look at your process

[@YourUXEngineer]

Having a similar problem with my 2013 Ford Edge. After some hesitation, while driving, I got a misfire code on cylinder 3 and an emissions error. I just wanted to get an idea of what all of that meant. Thank you for your video!!

[@cdurkinz]

I am having the same problem with my 2013 Ford Edge. I am working on changing the spark plugs now in hopes that fixes it, I'm at 123k miles so it's probably good to change them anyway. I changed the first three that are easiest to get to and it felt better right away afterwards, but now a few days later I'm feeling it a little again.

[@vongillan]

Thank you thank you one million times!!!!! I love KZbin

[@user-lg4zm5nj8t]

Thank you for an excellent example of diagnosis methodology. I have the exact same issue. " I think" ...........

[@blackgenesis7472]

Taking off intake manifold and replacing spark plugs does not take more that 2 hours, and 6 OEM plugs cost $35-40. Hesitation during acceleration - always #1 cause is spark plugs, plugs only good for 50-75k mi. Good diagnostic video. Next time - short cut - have plugs been replaced in the past 50k? . . if answer is no - head strait for plugs after verifying coils are working fine at idle.

[@JoseMartinez23244]

Thank you sir this is the video I have been looking for 💯👍🏻

[@haywardsautomotive6156]

Nice diagnosis & video...great call with the coils on the back cylinders preferably OEM or Wells b/c other AM coils are a crap shoot. Keep them coming I'm playing catch up with your videos.

[@urbanojuarez3268]

Very good videos . Very in-depth! You got a new subscription

[@Bama_RTMF]

It’s not difficult at all to pull the intake off and do all 6 plugs and coils. I’ve done it on our 2011 edge 3.5 in about an hour. In the driveway.

[@guayaco-dm3vu]

Very good explanation in your train of thought.. As Ivan said looking forward to others vids... oh yea removing that intake is not that bad,Just looks like it is.

[@jamiewhite838]

Most fords mode 6 misfire data is available on test 53 or 54 ? The value #s are much easier to see there per cyl, if available. Good vid like your style , logical thinking & very good detail lead placement & scope set up. Keep it up.

[@mred305]

Thanks, having the same issue with my Edge, now I'm sure what to do!! 👌🏾👌🏾

[@jayv7331]

Amazing video! Thanks a whole lot and blessings sir!

[@stevedonnelly5705]

i think when u stomp on the gas u go lean for a moment due to the rush of air comming in then rich looks normal . i had same problem i wish i saw this first,, i fixed it by changing plugs and moving coils around same milage and car ,, nice job with the scope

[@buku2008]

Great, thank you for such informative video!

[@fadimourad8455]

Thank you I had exactly the same problem.

[@tonyrunyon375]

Nice work I have the exact same problem, well, had anyway

[@stormwarning16]

Great vid ! Would have liked to see coil current ramp before swapping coils :)

[@gotoyzmag]

I have a 2012 Edge with hesitation, misfire, rough idle (but only in gear, not at idle). I was told the engine needs to be replace by two different shops. I think that's BS. What should I do now?

[@37leg]

Hey great video! Gave me some ideas on what was going on on my 2011 Ford 3.5 cyl # 5 misfire code. New plugs and coils replaced for maintenance then several thousand miles later #5 misfire code, swapped coils 5 & 6 misfire disappeared for a while and now has recently returned. I pulled the coils and just for fun the # 5 plug again to look at it and found it had cracks in the porcelain insulator! Motocraft platinum plugs. With 30k miles on them.

[@rimfirekernel]

I'm having similar issue. Rough idle and acceleration. Surging. Got Code P0305. Checked 5th spark plug and coil, coil was damaged so I changed all the spark plugs and the damaged coil. Started car still experiencing same issue and same code. I've read online that possibly the PCM is damaged now. Any recommendation?

[@chelovar1]

Same problem on 2010 Ford Edge SEL

[@omegasupremez2832]

I'm Having this problem 2011 edge limited.

[@mikereyes608]

How much would someone expect for this type of repair?

[@aidselmo1]

great video! I have p0302 on same engine!

[@The_Only_Meoni]

This man is like the Bob Ross of auto repair. Mine is doing the stall at stops. Thank god it hasnt done it on the expressway yet. When I have the air conditioning on or the heat and have it at the right speed the issue seems to ease up. As soon as I turn off the air function the issue returns and the vehicle will die at lights. Any ideas anyone?

[@dakotaclark5663]

I’ve got a 2011 Ford Explorer that’s doing the same thing with the check engine light flashing when getting into it hard as shown in the video but I’m getting misfire codes on cylinder 1 & 5. I’ve done had new spark plugs installed and coil packs on those cylinders and have also changed the injectors and I’m still getting the same results, any ideas?

[@shandabrogdon2439]

I have a 2011 Explorer as well. Same problem. Changed coil packs and no improvement. Have you figured out the problem with your vehicle yet?

[@user-hr9so3uk2m]

Shanda Brogdon same problem like you guys with my Ford Explorer 2014

[@alfredozarraga233]

Same problem here it was the computer grrr..

[@turboflush]

Need follow up repair in same video.

[@seanjhonson6441]

Good info! Thanks for vid!

[@justin5762]

I believe the cylinders are 246 in front and 135 in the rear...

[@markferraro5250]

Love it Joe

[@lowhertzhighspl]

Any input will be greatly appreciated!!! My 2011 Ford Edge 2WD SEL has same issue (hesitation/sputters only when punching it while cruising at highway speeds.. feels like traction control because it's kind of jerky when it happens but it's not traction control) Wish you lived in NE OH! The Cadillac dealership (where I bought it from) says their test shows it needs a new Catalytic Converter whereas then the Ford dealership test said they didn't see anything needing fixed because neither the mechanic nor I was able to replicate the issue this one day (my Edge's Check Engine light turned off ONLY hours before my Ford appointment of course and believe it or not it turned back on 2 miles after leaving! Whereas it was on for the prior 2 weeks and has remained on ever since the appt! Literally UNBELIEVABLE! But even so, it should still show codes but STRANGE THING IS OR WHAT CONCERNS ME IS.. while on my 5 mile highway drive home from Ford, for the FIRST time ever, on two separate occasions within 15 secs of starting it in dealership lot and then again 3 mins later while driving, ALL of the dash warning lights ALL appeared for a few seconds)! Obviously Ford must've done something to cause this because nothing like this has ever happened before and I drive my vehicle 3 hours everyday 5 or 6 days a week! So I guess my next move will be to PAY $350 to have Ford replace the SPARK PLUGS (process looks too complicated to do myself after viewing YT vids on How To) because mine has 112,000 miles and to my knowledge they have NEVER been replaced! (I purchased it As-Is just 2 months ago with a verbal "30 day warranty" which is not being honored at Cole Valley Cadillac in Cortland, OH FYI) AWESOME INFORMATIVE VIDEO.. I apologize for the length of this comment but just in case you or someone has a good idea what I should do, it was worth providing any potentially necessary details.

[@gmwrenchead]

Could this kind of failure be identified in a coil current ramp?

[@stormwarning16]

Sure can !

[@vongillan]

Holy s*** dude that worked

[@stevejones3438]

I been going through same thing With my Ford edge, it's cold and miserable so I'm tryna to diagnose from the driver's seat, if I owned that meter I'd barter it with a mechanic to fix my car !

[@julevelleharris94]

My car just started doing this tonight

[@forgottensoul5965]

Hello guys I have a 2012 Ford Edge 2.0lt and while I was driving the car it would auto accelerate with out me pushing down the pedal. The rpms would go very high up but the car would not move at all

[@MIGIMINATTI]

Sounds like a transmission issue. I'm no pro though just speculating

[@nursesheris8777]

Wow spark plugs is all it needed that's amazing my Edge only has 87,213.8 miles on it, if you get notifications of messages could you please respond with what the cost was to replace the plugs???? I'm a little financially strapped and will need to figure something out to get this done Thabks in advance for your answer

[@pindiwal4717]

Ford spark plugs are $6 a piece ($36 total) and an independent will charge $150-$200 for this spark plug change job. Please also buy a throttle body cleaner and request the person to clean throttle body since it'll have easy access.

[@iketanikoichiro3519]

If this was a Toyota everything would still be fine. Watch top gear on Toyota truck that won’t die before haters start hating.

[@todosube]

Ford always thrived on selling you parts. They put out, mass produce cars with known problems... sale sale sale and then get U later at the dealer.

[@ChrisB-cx6td]

@@todosube not true neighbor has a tacoma late model damn thing is smoking

[@rrmech11]

well done

[@jdean399]

Really useful video, thanks, your clear precise narrative makes it nice to follow along. Could I ask you, it looked like the coil wasn't being pulled right to ground, is that a problem or is it just due to the large current flowing through the coil? Thanks Jonathan

[@pinpointautomotiverepair1592]

Hey Jonathan, are you talking about the tiny hump present during initial coil turn on during some of the captures? When you are talking about ignition coils, there is a large amount of current flow on the primary side (often near 10 amps). This tends to prevent a "perfect" ground from being applied due to voltage drop not only through the wiring back to the engine computer, but also the transistor in the computer itself. Looking back through the video, all of the waveforms we captured appear to be grounding quite near 0v, though I didn't actually measure that ground voltage. Another thing to keep in mind is the high voltage spike during the misfire event, a coil with a power or ground problem will not be able to produce the high firing line we noticed (in excess of 300v on the primary collapse). Hopefully this answers your question.

[@jdean399]

Yes,thanks for your time, Jonathan

[@GXLDFISHYT]

Car is a 2011 Edge SE.

[@svt32vdohc]

What is the yellow wrench light? Mine is on.

[@CalebsCars]

Service

[@bencastillo6520]

Had same problem but was showing a misfire on cylinder 1 and 5 so I replaced all coils and spark plugs and still having the same issue! Anyone have any other recommendations?

[@lucasrivera58]

What did you do to fix the problem sir I have the same codes

[@MrKingzz08]

# 6 went to -27

[@angelisone]

Anyone able to troubleshoot without using OBD?

[@haltomj]

Nice. What is the software used that shows all of this info? I'm assuming you also need a cable to go from OBD port to PC? How much does that stuff cost?

[@haltomj]

Just checked prices on Snap-On D10 VERUS... geez.. guess that's not an option for me

[@angelisone]

I have to say the Edge series are one lousy designed SUVs one can own. I have turned many down because owners wanted to fix & replace just the Check Engine Light #. Because only days later other spark plugs/coil go Pinpoint Automotive Repair, I and many agreed it's just silly that one has to go through all the labors just to get access to the spark plugs. And no experienced personnel (even to DIY) will replace only one spark plugs, one coil or one fuel injector. ATG, you & I know that taking /or pulling things in & out that you can mostly break those plugs and cooked thin wires. But again, many owners rather go to a cheap shop rather a good shop/dealership. All because owners think shops/dealers are ripping them.

[@avatheavydog7053]

Lol 2days to diagnose plug? Labor intensive? What a joke. easiest plugs ever done

[@pandora655]

pegged at 1/2 throttle... but, I guess thats full throttle for a ford.

[@hbseth1867]

Man, I have to give you a little crap for this. You just killed 30 minutes diagnosing something that is kind of a given. From the misfire code, you knew that you were going to do a coil swap no matter what. You could have saved yourself and everyone else a lot of time by just swapping the coil with cyl 5 and swapping the plug with cyl 4. Shoot, by hearing in the end you telling us that your swapping all coils and plugs regardless (because of the high miles I assume), who cares really if it's a coil or a plug if you're planning on some R&R for both anyway. The only reasoning behind all of this wasted time is to see if it were spark or a fuel injector but because you have to take the intake off anyway, just swap the injector too (not applicable to you but maybe someone down in the comments). JUST SAYIN, don't get caught up in the geeky high dollar equipment folks and keep to the KISS method.

[@bthompson1767]

6 showed a 27

[@RainorShine1]

I had a p0300 and a p2198 p2196 thought was my canister purge value, and when I punch the gas when it gets a 5,000 rpm its suputters ugh and smell little gas. Ugh wish I had that machine to help me

[@turboflush]

Wave forms. Ughhh not my strong point.

[@brandoncuts82]

Yes but do you understand u could have damaged the car much more by testing it that way full throttle.

[@CalebsCars]

How? Lol need to verify the fault