Not many people take note of the layout of these mixers. The fact that you mentioned how design and layout can either be efficient or distract you is brilliant. Very intelligent contrast between the two mixers. Absolutely amazing review!
@Deckademics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! We’re working hard to give the best reviews possible. Give us a follow if you haven’t already. Appreciate the view and comment.
@PrincePresto1 Жыл бұрын
You explain these mixers like you built them. Perfect dialogue and delivery
@coolhandlex Жыл бұрын
Right on, thanks Sinclair!
@ozprod3713 ай бұрын
Man do I appreciate this! Most of my casino gigs have an S11 in use and I have been a avid Pioneer user for over 25 years BUT I just received a 72 with a pair of Twelves and I am pretty impressed with that setup as well. This was a very fair comparison in my opinion and thank you again!
@Ziggy_v23 жыл бұрын
Both are awesome! The only reason I purchased the S11 over the 72 - was the ability to also use both Serato and Rekordbox.
@coolhandlex3 жыл бұрын
That’s a huge feature for the S11!
@vincestyles10302 жыл бұрын
Who uses rkordbox? Seriously Serato is the standard or traktor
@djbobrokk7232 жыл бұрын
@@vincestyles1030 I've CDJs too and it's far more smart to have same library management (by RB) on CDJs and turntables (DVS) both..
@rakkazoid3 жыл бұрын
ive been waiting for ages for someone to compare these mixers. you did so from a really analytical viewpoint which is most helpful. Definitely seems like you prefer the S 11 but thats your opinion and you werent bias. thanks very much
@VerySpecialEDD3 жыл бұрын
Lol ages come on bro the s11 barely came out last year
@Paulorp19793 жыл бұрын
rane died, quality stayed with the former owners
@DJAngusTV2 жыл бұрын
The best review on both mixers period. I totally agree with everything. I personally have the Rane 72 and love it... It does not make me a better DJ but I got the Rane because I was looking for a tank as oppose to plastic. I also love that I could switch the paddles on the 72. How many scratch DJs gonna use loads of effects on any one mixer? The most important things on any mixer is sound quality and the faders. Everything else is just minor and can be overlooked.
@coolhandlex2 жыл бұрын
The Rane is a total tank, for sure.
@djndgindagruv2142 жыл бұрын
I really loved your honesty about your opinions but most importantly how thoroughly you went through these and I actually started out with REALISTIC dj equipment and after a couple of years from starting to dj back in ‘86 at age 14 I bought me 4 chromed-out TECHNICS 1210s which I used up until 2011 after everything got stolen from me including almost 3 decades of vinyl….. I started from the bottom back in 2019 after getting my first ever dj controller the DENON PRIME 4 and now I’m about to get this RANE SEVENTY-TWO MKII along with a pair of DENON LC6000s and watching this solidified my getting my RANE. Again, thanx for such a great review🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯
@coolhandlex2 жыл бұрын
From a Realistic to the 72! You’ve come a long way homie, thanks for watching!
@ventarfield71152 жыл бұрын
This video was fantastic. Now i really cant decide. I want the s11 with Rane build quality.
@coolhandlex Жыл бұрын
Tough call. I can say both use great components and are well built, and the only time you’ll likely need to consider the “build quality” is in the case of accidental drops or transporting the mixer without a case. You wouldn’t do that though, would ya? 😄
@mikedubz5576 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly said! Work Flow and echo pioneer Sound, paddles, build quality Rane!
@christopherwright43443 жыл бұрын
I was going to do a compare and contrast video between these mixers but you said what I was going to say in less words clearly and well thought out with awesome visuals to match. 👍
@djciscov13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. Real good comparison of these 2 Beasts. 👍🏻 I ended up buying the S11. So far I love it & now with the MWM Phase I can plug it right in the back of the S11 iwith no RCAs. I know that version of Serato is still in Beta testing but I’ve used it for many hours without any issues.👍🏻
@djxsquizit3 жыл бұрын
Just bought the S11 SE. Best decision I ever made
@freshcutsbcn3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video! Properly written, shot, edited and voiced!
@vazfinestdjchozin15993 жыл бұрын
You talked it out the best. Pioneer should thank you fr. Thank you.
@lophiile2 ай бұрын
great review!! Honestly Rane broke my trust by discontinuing support for the 62 while pioneer still supports their mixers of the same year. So I'm out of the Rane ecosystem for good.
@evanrandall1675 Жыл бұрын
These are both so freaking sweet and I really want the high quality faders, pads and effects. I feel like I don't nearly have the skills and application to justify the purchase though just to play around with scratch records at home. It seems like folks don't feel like the s5 is a "real" pioneer mixer. This review was extremely well done. I still have almost a month to decide.
@Deckademics Жыл бұрын
Thanks Evan! Should you end up making the purchase, it sounds like you should definitely go with the S11 if you want quality faders and enjoy scratching.
@michaelcoco Жыл бұрын
What did you end up getting
@donsmooth5143 жыл бұрын
Great break down of the features and functions Clear and concise ... The rane always looked too busy now I understand why. Great review
@doncrew40843 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal comparison. I’m a fan!
@escf2 жыл бұрын
This is a great review and really helps me with my decisioning purchase. Thank you so much! Keep up the great work!
@jrapheal17 ай бұрын
Which did you decide?
@anttiskate3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Different design philosophies, and your review highlights them perfectly.
@GroundBeatDe2 жыл бұрын
The very BEST video off all times :D. Great job man!!!!! :D :D :D
@zomgoose8 ай бұрын
Split Cue is non-negotiable on a premium mixer. High-end channel faders are also a necessity on a battle mixer. Both are great mixers. It is a hard choice. Thanks for the breakdown!
@zomgoose8 ай бұрын
Pioneer DJ DJM-S11 Firmware Update Posted on: 20th July 2023 Added Mono Split and Cue Fader Reverse functions. (To use them, touch the headphones icon on the Menu screen.)
@k00k2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to give you props on your writing. Nice tight descriptions and well thought out word play.
@coolhandlex2 жыл бұрын
Good looking out, thanks!
@vincestyles10302 жыл бұрын
Seems you are biased to the pioneer I personally own the 72 and I do agree with most of what you said you can’t mistake the quality difference between them pioneer is a plastic unit the rane is extremely durable much better then the pioneer. In closing it does take some time to learn the functions on the 72 but imo it’s so much better.
@djdoesha3 жыл бұрын
Hands-down the best review on these mixers ! I’ve been looking to upgrade , so I’ve been watch n videos !! I am a rane DJ with my 62 i’m thinking 🤔 the 72 or the 70 but now this videos actually make me think about s11 thx 🙏🏽 doesha
@djstickem3 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat. I think I’m going s11
@Max-go2ze2 жыл бұрын
@@djstickem DONT DO IT!!!! The build quality is the factor. Why pay that much for the S11 and its made out of plastic. As anything pioneer it becomes a loose dusty shit heap after a few years. I come from using Technic turntables. All about build quality
@djblendz77153 жыл бұрын
Love this video! Guys keep up the great work!
@ChillBrah-bx7fs Жыл бұрын
See a few S11's in used aisle of my local guitar center but you never see 72's. It lets you know who stays for the long haul
@niterida3803 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was waiting on this.
@classicdell3 жыл бұрын
Amazing review sir absolutely loved it
@Deckademics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Make sure to subscribe as we have a number of other reviews coming and a bunch more to check out on the channel.
@FM-ne5pz2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@jjuninc773 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I own the rane 70 and S11. I’m keeping the S11... purely for the extra decks. I want to keep both but I can’t. I would add that I have heard here and in a number of places that the sound is down to preference. I struggle with this as the rane sounds warm and full and the S11, while an upgrade over the S9, sounds like it’s shouting at me. The rane sound quality is far superior. The rane also has more customizable echo with high pass frequency and feedback or depth(I think this is the setting) available. Same is true for the rane reverb. Though I agree in the past pioneer echo was far superior.
@mrkdude39433 жыл бұрын
ill take the rane 70 if you still have it
@detroittrickster33272 жыл бұрын
how can you use the extra 2 decks when you only have2 channels
@detroittrickster33272 жыл бұрын
@James B s7
@ORIGINALDJZERO3 жыл бұрын
They're both good mixers. I just fell in love with the 70. Especially with the silent cue and split cue on the headphones. The 70 is so simple
@coolhandlex3 жыл бұрын
I won’t disagree with you, the 70 is an outstanding mixer and a favorite of mine.
@ORIGINALDJZERO3 жыл бұрын
@@coolhandlex and I still have my S9 LE. Looks brand new. Only had it 6 to 9 months and bought the 70 after looking at reviews. I'll use the S9 with my 1200's and I use the 70 with the Rane 12's. We can't go broke every time they come out with a new mixer with a different feature or 2. I ain't in a battle no more or touring. Just jamming. 🤣🤣
@DJJoeySantos3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison vid :)
@Lumaport3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review thank you
@jonnyking43696 ай бұрын
Has RANE improved on the fader fx from the last SEVENTY mixer????
@АнтонПоле-ж6м3 ай бұрын
I would like to ask about the channel faders on the s11, how reliable are they in this model, unlike the s7, and are they easy to replace if they break on the s11? I heard that the s7 has graphite faders and they can quickly fail, who knows please tell me , thanks
@jamesslaven2580 Жыл бұрын
bit of a pioneer fan boy vid this and no mention that the rane sound qualtiy destroys the pionner s 11
@Conzequent86 Жыл бұрын
Great review!!!!!!
@Deckademics11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@djDivineJustice3 жыл бұрын
The rane also has dedicated the loop encoders
@nonan542 жыл бұрын
Hi, why did you recommande for Real vinyle playing principaly I play 70% vinyle (techno and minimal) and 30% serato (open format + modeste scratch routine) I have a S9 now and it's Time to upgrade. I love s9 with serato , but with vinyle i préfer pré amp on my mixars duo imo ! (It's my backup mixer) Thank you
@avenjalin8391 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@Deckademics11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@iconix213 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive review..... No Gas Face 👌
@johngeorge56842 жыл бұрын
Definitely lock down.
@roshanelewis9523 жыл бұрын
will pioneer make a dj controller with S11 mixer layout?
@coolhandlex3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be a good seller if they did!
@Max-go2ze2 жыл бұрын
Rev 7
@wilnewyork1 Жыл бұрын
Is it a good idea if I buy one of these mixers seeing that I'm still a "learner DJ"? What do you think? Thank you..
@coolhandlex Жыл бұрын
We should all still be “learner DJs” through our career! But to your actual point, these mixers are like Porsches. You absolutely do not need one, but they’re amazing if you find yourself behind the wheel. Go nuts if you have loads of expendable income, but otherwise buying one of these mixers before you know how and why to use everything these offer is sort of an investment for the future you and your DJ journey. In most cases I’d personally recommend getting really good with what you have and to consider buying one of these mixers when their extra features make sense to actually level up what you’re already doing.
@moeberry32563 жыл бұрын
Do they have flash drive ports
@niterida3803 жыл бұрын
No.
@kingsleyrussell3482 жыл бұрын
No split cue on s11, so no headphone mixing, what would you do if you were playing at a silent disco?
@coolhandlex2 жыл бұрын
I’m constantly blending between the cue and master in my headphones when I’m normally DJing, and that’s also how I’ve mixed at the silent discos I’ve played. 🤷♂️
@kingsleyrussell3482 жыл бұрын
@@coolhandlex well, I think slit cue is the most important thing to be fair, most people think the effects are the most important, maybe that’s because they can’t mix and rely on effects to hide their shit mixing skills.
@PrincePresto1 Жыл бұрын
Oh yay. I never comment. This deserves a bit. Cheers 👆
@Deckademics Жыл бұрын
We appreciate it! Cheers!
@niterida3803 жыл бұрын
Lex can you get the S11 (LSYXJ) which is the dual voltage version?
@coolhandlex3 жыл бұрын
Your best bet would be to call the shop and ask to speak to Nick, he'll get you sorted!
@niterida3803 жыл бұрын
@@coolhandlex Do you have the number?
@iwheelhard4693 жыл бұрын
Let me preface my comment by saying I'm an S11 guy, with that being said... is this a comparison or an explanation on why you think the S11 is a better mixer? Didn't even take a minute into the video before you were referring to the Rane with negative overtones & connotations. It's hard if not impossible to do a unbias comparison video when you've already picked what you prefer prior to making the video because everything being stated is being said with a foregone conclusion. Eventhough I'm an S11 user that does not mean I want Rane to fail. Competition is good for the market. It seems like for Pioneer to level up their hardware, they need the competition to be a threat. Like the CDJ for example. I think they got too comfortable with being labeled the "industry standard" and just kept releasing the same ish with a few tweaks & minor upgrades. Meanwhile, Denon is breaking ground with their Prime decks and for the first time in the CDJ's existence, I think Pioneer is feeling the heat. That's why Pioneer users need Rane, Reloop, NI etc to keep leveling up in order for Pioneer to do the same.
@Deckademics3 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the entire video before typing this? PS: we’re huge fans of the Rane 70. We have a review of that as well that you should check out.
@elbacatranlamalditamaravil4373 жыл бұрын
Isn't the s11 32 bit?
@coolhandlex3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! I definitely misspoke and didn’t catch it until after we went live.
@DjRatchet3 жыл бұрын
Pioneer sounds crystal in nightclubs very powerful almost too powerful Definitely a festival mixer s11 wins
@djvalpacinolewis53153 жыл бұрын
Rane One please..
@Deckademics3 жыл бұрын
it's coming. we just got it yesterday.
@JayWerx3 жыл бұрын
Metering in the center of the channel faders is stupid
@ORIGINALDJZERO6 ай бұрын
The S11 is a better mixer as far as features.
@mixit2473 жыл бұрын
Thumb up for bias
@ap1reviewsadventures963 жыл бұрын
Pioneer got left, and still is in, the dust.
@tblends Жыл бұрын
Neither, right? You need to run Traktor or you will have latency, scratching. For all you techy-advanced scratchers out there!!!
@djroach32372 жыл бұрын
Wear the the hell is the laptop?
@coolhandlex2 жыл бұрын
Under the desk!
@chamatharavinda37412 жыл бұрын
cant hear the last words of your sentences, hard to hear you bro
@djDivineJustice3 жыл бұрын
“ used to control software” effects, when referring to the bank encoders is less than completely accurate
@coolhandlex3 жыл бұрын
You're right, the 72 does have loop controls outside of the pad modes! I definitely missed mentioning that.
@calimangrower15902 жыл бұрын
Idk Rane is King!!!!
@vazfinestdjchozin15993 жыл бұрын
Too much on the RANE 72mk2. Pioneer has been the titans on dj gear.
@calimangrower15902 жыл бұрын
In the 90s it would take a room full of equipment to compare to most Professional DJs today.
@markyruss2 жыл бұрын
Had a party last week - two 1210s and a 92 mixer never had such fun, 4 mates all going back to back on the decks ! Banging night !
@thadirtyabbott33 Жыл бұрын
You ain't lying!!! My back still hurts from carrying crates of records, speakers!😂
@SLIC3R2 Жыл бұрын
It would also take TWO rooms full of equipment to stack up to the technology available in your smart phone.
@roadking3844 Жыл бұрын
And skill
@jonathanbailey1597 Жыл бұрын
@@roadking3844 don’t think so. Rather, it’s the reverse. The talent pool has atrophied, along with the skill and creativity level.
@thedodgefiles66283 жыл бұрын
Can you explain that 5-volt difference for Phase some more? What more do you have to do to successfully use Phase, or what are the limitations of using it with the Rane 72?
@ingodhands97452 жыл бұрын
Dam I can't believe we use to use gemini scratchmasters lol😪
@coolhandlex2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! We’ve come a long way from two band EQ and transformer switches!
@vishnuvaid74653 жыл бұрын
is it just me or does rane screen look a tad choppy in comparison to the s11? Edit: just got to where you discussed it lol
@califoggialove7 ай бұрын
came here to understand if i should change my rane 72 with pioneer s 11. since i travel a lot with my mixer, the fact that pioneer is build in plastic is a very big minus. i will not change my 72. thank you
@DjDieselLive12 жыл бұрын
do the color effects still work as a stand alone mixer? for example if I am using cdj's with a usb stick inserted with the color effects and toggle pad still work?
@matsu_music3 жыл бұрын
Amazing review Lex!! Beautifully presented and SPOT on commentary
@matsu_music3 жыл бұрын
also S11 gang yeeee
@VerySpecialEDD3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say spot on, it’s an ok review and I say so because it’s biased and he’s downplaying what he’s not in favor, and this leads to misinformation , he’s wrong about a couple of things about the 72 and I think it’s because he’s biased
@matsu_music3 жыл бұрын
@@VerySpecialEDD lol ok
@djsep7 ай бұрын
I do a lot of remixes and mashups. One timeI had a deejay ask me if I could share some with him. Yes, that's my fault. Cuz a few weeks later he was rockin' the club with MY remixes and mashups and claiming them as his. WTF??!!! Never again!!
@ClectaSkiMusic3 жыл бұрын
Superb video thanks
@mannypvd22967 ай бұрын
i have both the rane 70 and the 72... the 72 has glitched out and does not work anymore and the 70 has rotary pot issues. switching to pioneer s11. never going back to rane.
@Paulorp19793 жыл бұрын
DJM S-11 THE BEST
@VerySpecialEDD3 жыл бұрын
I had to stop watching because I can tell your review is biased
@Deckademics2 жыл бұрын
Oh no! What are we going to do now!?
@VerySpecialEDD2 жыл бұрын
@@Deckademics make a review thats not biased
@Deckademics2 жыл бұрын
This was a comparison video. Check out the Rane 70 review and report back. We all collectively really dig that particular mixer over here.
@kazukami31073 жыл бұрын
wow, very good review. gotta check out your vids more often. truly good critiques and deeper dives into actual functionality and specifics that would contrast between the two. well done, you got a new subscriber, looking forward to similar reviews
@yayanem60763 жыл бұрын
PIONEER lost the leadership in technology, beaten by denon and concerning these mixer, s11 is far less betta! The screen is not ergonomic and seems too small compared to the screen of 72, the price is always more because it is pio pio loool come on RANE 72 is much betta and well organized! S11 is a good one too but less ergonomic for my point of view
@Deckademics3 жыл бұрын
We said what we said. Lol.
@1park8138 ай бұрын
I actually prefer the screen look and feel of the rane
@Conzequent862 жыл бұрын
Great review out there. Many thanks!
@EJNONAN3 жыл бұрын
Very informative review! Would like to see another great review on the Rane 70 vs Pioneer S7.
@coolhandlex3 жыл бұрын
The S7 review is live on our page now and the Seventy review is there as well!
@marleycarroll2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video, thanks. Subbed.
@coolhandlex2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marley!
@josephmesser40592 жыл бұрын
Great, detailed review
@DonMedinaTV2 жыл бұрын
Great review....
@TyraFromSaigon3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the great video!
@Deckademics3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyra! We’re fans of yours as well and have shown your vids to many students over the years. Salute!
@fredbalentine65706 ай бұрын
this video is like most vids comparing these two incredable mixers . most folks gravitate to the s11 , i own both , with my style of mixing ,ie i like to snap back to a 4,or 8 bar intro to mix in and out of tracks , the rane 72 lends itself to this with as little as 1 button push wil get you where you need to be even if you havent set ou your loop prior to your set . But with the S11 you have to set your loop a well as your cue point at the beginning of your loop in order to get back to your loop . So because of this i find myself always using my 72 . But the S11 does have a few more tricks up its sleeve like the 2 virtual channels that you can use to be very creative with . Bottom line is i will force myself to spend more time with the S11 to gain an appriciation of its strengths .
@djkevinkayd2 жыл бұрын
hey can you go to absolute possion in a track on the toutch screen on the s11 ? i have the phase dvs signal controllers on my decks but i cant go to a point in a song now. i want to buy this mixer...
@Lampdawg2 жыл бұрын
Can I use the browser button on the S11 and see it on the computer screen like the Pioneer SZ?
@CarlosMunoz19802 жыл бұрын
Pioneer biased
@Deckademics2 жыл бұрын
Watch our Rane 70 review.
@Deckademics2 жыл бұрын
PS: you made this same comment 7 months ago, lol. And here you are again.
@CarlosMunoz1980 Жыл бұрын
@@Deckademicsso what. This is very one sided review. We get it, you prefer pioneer
@ericburgos3 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, I do NOT like Pioneer's "non-scratch" mixers. I find them uninspiring. The scratch mixers are fascinating, though, and I love that they have such stiff competition from Rane.
@Max-go2ze2 жыл бұрын
Pioneer just completely copied Rane. But made it cheaper out of plastic. No comparison if you value build quality
@the_truth21 Жыл бұрын
I’m still using my rane 57 with serato scratch. Looking at the 70 or 72 . Not interested in pioneer since I’ve used ranes line of mixers. 62 was great too but I want a new mixer
@Deckademics Жыл бұрын
It sounds like you would be more interested in the 70. Its a great mixer and is simpler and more to the point than the 72. Anyone going from a 62 to a 70 would be very pleased with the transition.
@bassape6523 жыл бұрын
Great comprehensive head 2 head comparison. Personally, I'm a Rane guy but I really wish they would tone down the whole x-mas tree aesthetics. Matter of fact, the whole InMusic umbrella would benefit from turning the LEDs down a notch.
@apexpredator_jku3 жыл бұрын
I'd have to agree as far as the x-mas tree lighting. I know Denon got the hint & toned it down with the SC6000 vs the SC5000 and looks sooo much more professional. Hopefully the rest of InMusic will follow suit.
@rolandoduran737 Жыл бұрын
Sir. What’s the name of that dope jam in the intro?
@Deckademics Жыл бұрын
The song is "Run Tell Dat" by our Ableton instructor Lonegevity. Check him out!
@greatness3928 Жыл бұрын
Which one has the best cross fader
@coolhandlex Жыл бұрын
Personal preference, really. I happen to love the Magvel Fader Pro but either is excellent
@krolkoolmarek7074 Жыл бұрын
The s11 is more easy to use ?
@Deckademics Жыл бұрын
Overall, Yes. I would say the S11 is easier to use. Those willing to take a deep dive into the 72 may find more options but at the expense of being a bit more complicated. Especially in the effects section.
@thajasondub Жыл бұрын
Solid video!!!
@Deckademics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@anonymousmc77273 жыл бұрын
Why every mixer doesn’t have an iPad app is crazy and ya know what throw a hard drive in it too
@nobbystyles4807 Жыл бұрын
theyre fucking identical dude. literally identical by design..... its one company trying to take a market share out of another company....! and neither of those companies are actually trying to help the djs out.... theyre releasing button controllers with flashing led's at ridiculous prices that actually price out younger djs that dont have the money..... this is doing NOTHING for the industry its actually stiffling talent! there are many other manufacturers that are making affordable kit and hey guess what.....? having 25 fx on every channel doesnt make you a better dj. if theres any doubt about whay ive said here just think back to how many complaints there were about penny & giles faders or eccler against the constant complaints in the forums now about firmware updates and faulty units......!
@Sergioluna80s Жыл бұрын
I need to clarify that rane is no longer the quality that all djs value. inside a rane the components are the same as a numark or a denon, that's why I never buy a Rane again Pioneer despite manufacturing in China is still a Pioneer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InMusic_Brands the review is excelent ! greeting from Buenos Aires
@Deckademics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for your input!
@ChillBrah-bx7fs Жыл бұрын
Mu dude. Even today. Inmusic products outlast pioneers. Pioneers have a dedicated repair center
@CarlosMunoz19803 жыл бұрын
Pioneer fanboy
@nastyp163 жыл бұрын
great video great presentation
@SuperPussyFinger3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thoughtful, articulate, sophisticated overview.