Short video demonstrating how the channel fader failed only after 8 months of use and about 40 parties
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@FreshhRoses11 ай бұрын
Oh wow I’m so happy I bought a Rane 70 instead! I heard that the up faders weren’t that great. Thank you for your input, this video made me not regret my purchase 😮
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Spread the word. That Rane is a much better mixer. The S11 and S9 are good but stay away from that S7. Thanks for watching.
@djshaboo11 ай бұрын
I've had my S7 for a year now. There's no issues with it at all. You must have a defective one. Take it up with Pioneer. I love this model mixer.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I’m glad yours is holding up. I also like the mixer aside from the cheap build quality. Do the research, the upfaders going out is a common issues with this model (S7) and fir the price point, the average person should be able to swap out the upfader like in other pro mixers. This mixer (S7) is not the case. Upfaders are soldered on and the entire circuitry inside the mixer is built cheaply. Do the research and you will see. Glad yours is not causing issues.
@MrMargaretScratcher2 ай бұрын
Plenty of us have 'defective ones', unfortunately. My S9 which I bought secondhand was flawless for years, my S7 channel went out within a year of buying it new.
@2119rocky11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this man, I was going to get the S7 but after watching g this I’ll end up getting the Rane 70. Thanks
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Good choice
@djhouseusa11 ай бұрын
This review was right on time. Most of the DJs I know have the Rane 70 but one them was thinking about getting the S7 including myself. Rane 70 is the better option. Thanks
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Go with Rane, you can’t go wrong.
@jaedilladonuts84877 ай бұрын
I have an s7, s11 and rane 72. I love them all. They’re all on point.
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
I have the s5, s7, Vestax PMC 05 Pro II, Numark M2. All but the s7 has been through a lot and no issues. s7 I babied and barely got use out of it before it started causing issues. I love the features/design but hate the build quality.
@thewatcher62955 ай бұрын
Great video, well done. Thanks for putting the word out. This information will help a lot of people make an informed decision about their future purchase.
@EnormeSounds5 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by
@DJMrMelvin11 ай бұрын
I agree ! I had the S7 3 Months and Volume faders went out. I now have Rane 70
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Like I tell everybody, spread the word so people can stop wasting their money. How do you like that Rane 70? I got to find another brand to show my loyalty and appreciation to.
@DJMrMelvin20 күн бұрын
@@EnormeSoundsI Love it 👍🏾
@djranx551911 ай бұрын
Like you i'm a Pioneer fan, I'm currently using older DJM 600, Had it for many years and still going strong! Glad I didn't sell my 'old school' analogue Vestax. Since listening to your comments I will have to break it out now and again. Much valued info. Peace ✌
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
When I was using vinyl, before all this computer stuff, the Vestax PMC 05 Pro II, I think that was the model, was my favorite. Glad you still have yours.
@djanthonypereda11 ай бұрын
I'm glad I kept my S9, I was about to upgrade to an S7..
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
They say the S9 is solid but the S7 “upgrade” is crap.
@bboymac8411 ай бұрын
Great sound you have in your video 👍🏽
@DjRudeboy25411 ай бұрын
True story! should be 500 usd for the substandard quality
@jerrychisholm856511 ай бұрын
i had one and never had issues with it, ive did alot of parties with it
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
You are one of the lucky ones. If you do the research you will see it’s a common issue with that mixer. I wish I could say the same.
@jerrychisholm856511 ай бұрын
Yeah I knew but I sold mine before it happened to get the rane 4
@thebestegg1231811 ай бұрын
same here havent had 1 issue at all
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Im just spreading the word. The mixer is built cheaply. A pro mixer should have easy access to change the upfaders. This one is soldered on to the board like they do with low end mixers. Glad yours hasn’t had any issues, but like I mentioned, this is a known and common issue.
@jerrychisholm856511 ай бұрын
that i do agree with u @@EnormeSounds
@djsoo7 ай бұрын
S5 has the same issue. It's basically S11 or bust with the new crop of pio mixers.
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
Its a shame because these mixers are not cheap
@djjoeykmusic11 ай бұрын
My man, thank you bro Thank you so much! Good looking. Have a wonderful one Blessings
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I’m spreading the word. This equipment costs too much to be built cheaply and not even last 1 year. That $1,500 can be spent on a better product or not spent at all.
@djjoeykmusic11 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds 🙏🏾
@morimorimorimorimorimorimoemoe3 ай бұрын
After purchasing the REV7, I also got the S7. Obviously the REV7 has a better up fader. Doesn't wobble. As you say, it's not worth the price. I think so. I feel like I was cheated because the up fader is not the same as the S11. I'm buying it for scratching. I also have Reloop ELITE and think it's great.
@EnormeSounds3 ай бұрын
If you are a scratch DJ, get rid of pioneer. Rane will last longer. We pay too much money not to be able to use the faders (up faders) as we please.
@morimorimorimorimorimorimoemoe3 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds S7 and REV7 in my room. It's for practice. In the basement there is a Reloop ELITE for high volume. The S7 has a loud fader operation sound that discourages me. The later REV7 seems to have been improved and is quieter. I have a rane twelve, but the sound quality of scratches is inferior to phaseDj, so I'm skeptical about mixers. To master Scratch, you need a certain amount of money. I've been doing this for almost 40 years, although there were long breaks (lol)
@karlkalauni33219 ай бұрын
Yup, sent mine back, and i owned it for under a year, and both channel faders failed as you pointed out.
@karlkalauni33219 ай бұрын
They found it cheaper to give me a brand new one, so I sold it. LoL
@EnormeSounds9 ай бұрын
Im glad you were able to get a new replacement and sell it. What mixer did you replace it with?
@karlkalauni33219 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds I reverted back to the reloop elite I previously had, thinking of going S11, or Rane 70.
@DJKISSchitown11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this insight. I know it’s an older one but if you ever get your hands on a reloop elite I would love to hear your take on the reloop elite mixer.
@mistabigga11 ай бұрын
The Elite is a dope mixer, I've had mine for two years and it's still going strong
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I doubt I do a review on the reeloop but I will check it out, might be something I’m interested in.
@istrumguitars11 ай бұрын
I’m having this issue with the Pioneer XDJXZ controller as well, only it’s affecting the channel 1 low end knob. Ridiculous.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Put them on blast especially if this is a manufacturer defect. These items cost too much to be failing us.
@DJGALAXYPRODUCTION11 ай бұрын
The S5 was doing that too.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
That’s a shame. Pioneer need to step their game up. I was wondering about the S5, thanks for confirming. Are their faders soldered on too or can they be changed with a screwdriver?
@DJMOESKIENO11 ай бұрын
Yup mine too
@Qbasiz18 ай бұрын
Had the same exact issue, is started with the left and over time on the right upfader. Sent it back under warranty, waited 2+ months. They replaced both upfaders,. On the old upfaders the caps where hovering 4mm above deckplate, new ones are almost scraping the deckplates an feel way stiffer. Friend of had similar issues, buildquality is way off. And why did they switche positions of the shift and tap/bpm to the S11
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
Yes I noticed my left fader cap was scraping the board so I removed the pin and now the fader cap is loose on the fader but at least it’s not scraping the mixer which could potentially cause issues.
@cajungrower11 ай бұрын
I honestly couldn't hear it cutting out like you were describing. Not saying it wasn't but I couldn't tell.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I will make another video. Maybe with the music louder. But it’s definitely cutting out. It’s not completely turning off but there is a noticeable difference in the output volume. Try to listen to the 2:33 to 2:35 time stamp. Now that you bring it to my attention I will make sure it’s more noticeable in the next video.
@dustinkirk451511 ай бұрын
I can hear it easily @@EnormeSounds
@kingsleyrussell34811 ай бұрын
Pioneer is crap period, overpriced shit, but people will still buy it. I have the Rane 70 and love it, I wouldn’t buy pioneer, it makes no sense to buy plastic and the s11 doesn’t even have silent que 😂
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Pioneer is ok, the S7 is crap. However Rane makes a better product than pioneer. Plus pioneer is having trouble keeping up with production. Parts/mixers/controllers are always on back order. Rane don’t have these issues.
@wozed175811 ай бұрын
Best mixer Ever !! No Regrets at all.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
That’s great that you feel that way. I agree, the concept is great, features are great, aesthetics are great. However, when you open up the mixer, if you know anything about electronics, you will immediately notice it was built cheaply. Like a $300 mixer. However if you have no complaints, great.
@wozed175811 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds Thats True but its almost everything Pioneer is putting out now...if you want better built Quality better get A Rane Mixer
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
That’s the whole purpose of this video, letting people know they are spending $1,500 for a mixer worth $300. People need to be informed before they buy. And yes, if I knew it was built cheaply, I would have bought Rane. The S9 has great build quality so I thought the S7 was an upgrade. The S7 is actually a downgrade from the S9.
@MrFgcfgcfgc7 ай бұрын
Do you still have the S7? I would like to know if you still have it: if you could flip it around and see if there's a manufacturer date (ex. January 2022 or 01/22) etc. I ask because i bought an s5, knowing that pioneer uses the same upfaders as the s7. Not even two weeks in: my right upfader is doing what yours did. Granted: i am heavy handed with the upfaders though. Edit: i can't return it because I got it during black Friday on sale.
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by. Yes I still have both mixers. My s5 has no issues and it has been through a lot, never even bought a case for it. Just transported it in a bag with cables and other DJ gear. However, I thought the upfaders on the s5 and s7 were made differently. Hopefully yours is still under warranty and you can get it fixed for free. The warranty is usually for 1 year as long as you have the original receipt. To answer your question my s5 was manufactured in May 2019 and my s7 was manufactured in April 2021
@DJMOESKIENO11 ай бұрын
Yup you’re right, my left upfader on the the Pioneer s5 does the same exact thing. The faders are cheap.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
What you plan to do with your issue? Mine comes back from the shop on Wednesday. I might just get rid of it and go with Rane.
@krolkoolmarek707411 ай бұрын
I have the same problem on faders and something goes wrong on the cross fader it cuts on the both sides at the same times
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
How long have you had your mixer and how much do you use it. That all plays a factor. However if it went out in a few months, that means it was built poorly. Try spraying air into the grooves. Dirt can cause faders to bleed.
@sixxx-music11 ай бұрын
I have the same exact S7, with the same exact problem, on the same exact channel bro lol. Mine's 2 years old so out of warranty, and the only company that sells the replacement fader that I could find said the part is 4-5 weeks out. I plan on repairing it myself and I'll probably make a video of the repair process. You said its an issue with loose solder on the contacts? If that's the case I wonder if I can just take it apart now and resolder the connection?
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
When I called around I couldn’t get a definite answer but I don’t see why you couldn’t use the same fader. Check out m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKWyeqd-r8-Xb68&pp=ygUTUm9jayBjZWUgcGlvbmVlciBzNw%3D%3D if you haven’t already. I called him about repairs and he says the part is available. However, most are saying Pioneer DJ equipment and supplies are on back order. Let me know how it works out for you. I like the mixer, just don’t like the quality.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Also, if you are in the US, consider purchasing high end equipment from www.sweetwater.com/shop/dj-equipment/ They give a free 2 year warranty on all products, so your mixer would have been covered.
@mydudethedj5 ай бұрын
The S7 is actually the upgrade to the S9.. S7 comes with built in HID mode. So you can plug in your cdjs directly to the mixer or the Rane 12’s.. that feature does not come with the S9.. t
@EnormeSounds5 ай бұрын
Yes the S7 is an upgrade to the S9 but the S7 was built with cheaper parts. The S9 is better in terms of build quality
@user-gz2pg9bf9w5 ай бұрын
i just got mine back sent it for repair last august, they sent it back (march) saying pioneer have no time scale for fixing the part, so im just gonna pay the extra £400 and uograde to s11, pretty poor service from pioneer for such an expensive mixer.
@meganoid_900111 ай бұрын
Man, thanks for your video. I came close to buy one, but fortunately I did not: I was so negatively impressed by the material quality of the mixer that I could not run that risk. You confirm my suspicion. Problem: what can I buy now, given that the S11 is impossible to find and the S5 is even worse than the S7? Any suggestion is more than welcome. Cheers
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Go with Rane. I believe it’s Rane 60. Pioneer replicates Rane but Rane makes a better product. Also Rane has not been on back order.
@meganoid_900111 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds Sure, I will check it out, man. Thanks for all. Cheers.
@magicmarlln11 ай бұрын
Any idea if this would be an issue w the s5 as well ?? Nice vid
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I don’t know much about the S5. However if you hear anything please share.
@Ninja_man_son11 ай бұрын
I regretted buying it, I went back to my S9
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
That’s how I feel, I’m using an old S3 until I find another mixer. I wish I had the S9
@fedscame9 ай бұрын
s9 all day. s11 is king though. but s9 is still the best mixer with out a screen.
@zukispur549311 ай бұрын
The Newmark scratch ain't a bad little mixer for the money. Two pioneer hybrid analogue and digital turntables and your away🌚 £3k
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. I will consider it since the price is not ridiculous .
@montisoul5 ай бұрын
👍👍
@DJSoundStarEnt11 ай бұрын
I brought mines when they first came out and never had this problem
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
That’s good, but that doesn’t take away the fact that it’s built cheaply.
@krolkoolmarek707411 ай бұрын
What do u think about Numark scratch ? Is it pro mixer ?
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Numark is a reputable company. I have a few numark mixers and never had issues with them. In fact, I have one, I forgot the model, for about 7 years and it works like new. I don’t know about Numark Scratch but for the price you can’t go wrong.
@krolkoolmarek707411 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds yeah I had numark sm 1 very strong mixer
@mgtow-balance340911 ай бұрын
damn nothing worse than buying new equipment and it's defective, ESPECIALLY if it's expensive stuff
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I totally agree and that’s why I’m spreading the word.
@akenny113110 ай бұрын
This is a serious issue with the high end price mixers of pioneer.. I have Djm-s3 for serato, but I’m started to get worried about mine too.
@EnormeSounds10 ай бұрын
I got the S3 and had it for years, in and out of clubs, mobile gigs, no real case. I didn’t abuse it but it’s built good. Never had an issue with it. In fact I used it when my s7 went down. S3 has its limitations but don’t worry about it failing you.
@akenny113110 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest and reliable voice. I was thinking for the s7 as an upgrade one day, but it seems to get the s11 if the money isn’t the problem or get the s9.
@EnormeSounds10 ай бұрын
I’m going to wait to see the next model Pioneer releases.
@djjammagic396011 ай бұрын
This is why I never use the upfaders on my s7. The upfaders are soldered you cant just remove and replace. Ive had mine for a few years
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
To me that shouldn’t be the answer. You plan on just using it without touching the upfaders?
@DJFONZIE10011 ай бұрын
DeoxIT Fader F5 Fader Lubricant. Spray it and then keep it or sell the mixer. U also can’t upgrade the main fader. That mixer is mainly a controller. Smh. S9 and S11 🔥
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
You are right S9 & S11 are built tough. I sent it in for service since it’s under warranty. However, Rane just gained a new customer.
@DJFONZIE10011 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds I got the Rane 70 A-Trak Edition. All I can say is flawless. Definitely get a Rane. Sound Quality is amazing
@djbrs854911 ай бұрын
They’re not even magnetic faders they’re cheap slider faders. They are very easy to replace if you know how to use a soldering iron and small screwdriver set but you shouldn’t have to maybe in 10 years the more you wiggle back-and-forth to post on the fader that actually is doing small amounts of damage to the contacts that make the connection works pretty much like a potentiometer except you’re sliding back-and-forth instead of turning it like the knobs for volume controls
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Not even worth buying but if you already have it I would get rid of it before I have to solder it.
@djbrs854911 ай бұрын
You’re absolutely correct if you don’t do that for a living as an electronics repair technician . I’m lucky enough to do all that since I’ve been a young kid been doing it for over 30 years and I’ve been DJing since I’ve been about 10. so old with experience for many different brand mixers. going inside deep doing many different repairs or I could practically build one by now. And most of them are all built. Generally the same but it all comes down to how high-quality the actual raw boards are from the start. How good the solder joints are how good are the capacitors resistors there’s many cheap manufactures out there might look good or it could be from a company that makes good hire and spend more money and get quality type equipment.. but then you buy some of their entry-level equipment and you’re going to be upset at times that’s why I like Rane. Before were bought out by denon inmusic. At least all they kept their quality with the help of Denon, who are pretty experienced at making high-quality electronics. And they still do get designed here in the US in Rhode Island were the original factory was but of course they’re being manufactured and built in china which they were always made in the USA and they were made pretty much by hand all their mixers. There’s a huge difference in quality it just gets worse nowadays.
@djwilliewpb4 ай бұрын
I just watched the video and I’m having the same issue but is the right fader. 😡😡😡😡
@EnormeSounds4 ай бұрын
I hope it is under warranty. I got mine fixed, under warranty but had to pay for shipping. However, I now gently use my upfadres and have not had an issue yet. This is ridiculous. Hope you get your fixed.
@darrinsims94147 ай бұрын
I ONLY USED MY S7 IN HOUSE 40TIMES LESS THAN AN HOUR EACH USE... JUST TO PLAY LIVE MUSIC... SAME CH DOIN SAME THING,,, ITS DEFECTIVE... PIONEER SHOULD FIX IT FREE..MINE IS OUT OF WARRANTY
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that. It’s not a cheap fix either. $100 or more. However since mine has been fixed I haven’t had any issue from it and I take it out on gigs weekly. If you decide to get it fixed hopefully you won’t have other issues. Spread the word so people will stop buying Pioneer until they increase the quality of their products.
@kubarejden3 ай бұрын
Worth but 200$ less, because for that 200$ You can buy 2x Innofader Mini Plus S to replace upfaders.
@EnormeSounds3 ай бұрын
I hate to replace items. If I buy an item I want it to work without having to buy aftermarket parts.
@kubarejden3 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds probably, but still in S7 or S11 better to change the cross and linefaders.
@djtecthreat8 ай бұрын
These are definitely made way cheaper now. The S9 was a work horse, many of those are still out there making money. This S7, the S5, and many of the new controllers will be in a landfill pretty quickly. Rane is no better, since they became part of inMusic (Numark), quality is way lower.
@EnormeSounds8 ай бұрын
It’s a shame because the prices are going up while the quality and cost to build goes down.
@crabees11 ай бұрын
I had the S7, the faders failed me, I had it repaired and resold it straight away. I bought the S11, which is a shame, I really liked this mixer.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about doing the same thing. I just hate that the S11 is longer than the S7. Got to find a new case.
@jaedilladonuts84877 ай бұрын
Faulty fader. It happens. It’s like anything. Some units will be faulty
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
I agree but disagree. There is actually a build quality problem with this particular mixer.
@DJEASE11 ай бұрын
S11 and S9 have adjustable faders. S7 upfaders are cheap plastic
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
Exactly, that’s why I put this video out there.
@marcusgraves10707 ай бұрын
did you get your mixer fixed
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
It’s been fixed for about 6 months. When it came back the channel fader was scraping the mixer when I pushed it near the top position. I didn’t want further issues so I removed the fader cap pin and now the fader cap is loose on the fader, no friction. Poor build quality in that area.
@anonymousmc772710 ай бұрын
Heard lots of complaints about the s-11😢
@EnormeSounds10 ай бұрын
The S11 is not good either? First I’ve heard of this. What are they saying?
@user-ls7mc4cq1x8 ай бұрын
I’m a professional technician and i can boldly tell you that all you need do is replace the variable slider and thank me later, the mistake pioneer made on the s7 is they used cheap slider for the upper fader instead of magvel fader that’s the difference between the s7 and the djm s11
@EnormeSounds8 ай бұрын
You got to explain this to me and send me a part number because the other technicians are saying the fader is soldered to the board and the solder is coming loose which is causing the issue. The S9/S11 has faders that can be removed from a cable. No solder involved. So please explain further.
@mortlow66887 ай бұрын
More a Fan of the Rane seventy. I test them boh and the Seventy is so much better…
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
The Rane is a tough competitor and respected in the DJ community. Not to mention their products are built tough.
@mortlow66887 ай бұрын
@@EnormeSounds I have the 57 and 62 i do alot of live acts and scratch action... Both mixer never fail and all original fader still work like new. The Rane Fader is super easy to clean and i love the high quality durable build of Rane.
@EnormeSounds7 ай бұрын
@@mortlow6688 Rane sets the example on how a high end (expensive) mixer should be built. What you experienced with the 57 and 62, I expected with the s7
@themixx836011 ай бұрын
MAAAAAN..no body hear that but you. I think your ocd kicking in overdrive. You just wanted to get online to talk lol
@bosmanragga5111 ай бұрын
Are you even a Dj, I didnt hear the cutting in the video but I know what he is talking about, Left and Right speakers will cut one at a time so you wont hear any silence
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
You are right, I should have provided better examples but the problem was there. Two gigs ago it hit worst and it’s in the shop now. Trust me it’s a real issue.
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I should have provided better examples. It was worst on a gig I just did so I will see if I can upload that footage.
@cabaiste11 ай бұрын
I could hear it but I knew what to listen out for as I always used to damage faders from scratching until I got a vestax mixstick. Also if he recorded the audio from the turntables seperatly for the video he could edit it in to make the issue sound clearer. I like the way he came to the conclusion straight away in the video.
@mm-201811 ай бұрын
8 months send it back .might have gotten a pandemic mixer
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
It’s built cheaply, during and after pandemic.
@hassandjhaboogiespin455011 ай бұрын
yea’ u might just had gotten a defective mixer of The Seven’s,🤔😳🤦🏽♂️pioneer should be Ashamed …. truthfully
@EnormeSounds11 ай бұрын
I wish this was a one-off defect but it should be a recall because it’s a common problem that needs to be widely known. If you do the research you will see how common the problem is.
@EvilCutz4 ай бұрын
Pioneer Mixers for Vinyl is cringe as fck my man. This has a 0.5 $ Riaa filter on the phono imput even the A9 sound pretty bad compared to an old Rane 56. Scrap that buy a cheap old Mixer and enjoy proper Mids.