i have had it where the gasket between the reed block and the carb isn't big enough. Had the problem on my P41, had me scratching my head. Pioneers and Homelites are some of the best sounding saws. Reeds forever!
@shelbywilson1143 жыл бұрын
Yes i had to put the old gasket back in. I had same problem on p41
@waynegriswold89533 жыл бұрын
!!!!HECK YEAH TINNIE!!!! I LOVE SEEING 'OL SAW RUNNING ONCE AGAIN!!!!
@Slane5833 жыл бұрын
We still have the power head to my grandfathers old Pioneer Farm-Saw. I remember watching him and my father in the woodlot during the summer cutting trees for some fire wood before winter came. They had two Pioneer Farm-Saws, one in black and orange, which it the one we still have and the other in Pioneer Green/Yellow. The green/yellow one was traded in toward a Husqy some years ago as it had some problems. But they were always treated as the "just-in-case" saw for when the trees got too big. They always ran smaller Homelites for limbing and buckin the wood into portions. :)
@jerrystott77803 жыл бұрын
I used a old hand me down pioneer back in 1970, it was my first saw. Don't remember the model, but it was heavy enough to put hair on your chest after a few weeks of packing it in steep mountains. 😆 have a great day.
@DaveyBlue323 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely oiling great! Sounds good brother!!! She’s choochin’!!!! That’s a beautiful little full wrap handle… I freakin love that green color! I just got a homelite 1050! 100cc quad reed valve momma… I can’t wait to jump into this old girl! 😂👍. I’m starting to really like the older one’s! They all need a pipe! Those P40’s are a great size saw too!!! Me too! I’m in love with it too! A 28 with skipper!!! I’m not a canook but that makes me proud for y’all!!! Right on!!!
@tinmanssaws3 жыл бұрын
1050s are cool!!
@tdawg86053 жыл бұрын
Put a carb kit in my p25 pioneer but it still fires and dies, maybe fuel lines, maybe seals, a work in progress for sure. The paint was all there till I started cleaning it up. That's when the paint started falling off... she's turdy alright but I can't wait to get her cutting again. Great video Tinman look forward to any and all pioneer vintage content. Sweet p40.... good stuff always.... Mahalo Tinman🤙🤙🤙...Tdawg.
@tdawg86053 жыл бұрын
@Mike Fu carb kit RK-14HU
@Patrick-kc5ur2 ай бұрын
I have the P40 also. Great that you got her runnin' again. Thanks!
@lajoskutas3023 жыл бұрын
The saw looks old man, but it's body is magnesium, made in 70's feels nice!
@stevetheriault41643 жыл бұрын
TINMAN THE PIONEER FACTORY WAS 40 MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE ,,PETERBOROUGH ONTARIO MY LANDLORD KNOWS SOMEONE THAT WORKED THERE ,,THE MAN GAVE MY LANDLORD A P42 WITH NO HOURS ON IT PRETTY COOL SAWS BRAND NEW NOS
@tinmanssaws3 жыл бұрын
Thats cool.
@derekclark56823 жыл бұрын
I have an old pioneer sitting in my shed. Hmmmm may have to get it out and tinker on it. Great sounding saw you have there.
@chapsmaketory39603 жыл бұрын
I kinda get a chubby when they fire up for the first time!!!😂..i don't have any homelites or pioneer but your really making me want one!!!
@shaner673 жыл бұрын
IT'S ALIVE!!! Nice to hear that baby run Tinman
@thebradleysoncatbirdhill68493 жыл бұрын
This was a blast! I continue to marvel at how great of a job you do of taking us along every step of the way, not hiding one single thing! Awesome! 👍💪
@tinmanssaws3 жыл бұрын
Thanx buddy
@brendanthebattlerstafford51453 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to you hooking into this one for ages. I’m sitting on two P41S chainsaws and am excited to see what you can make of yours as a point of reference. Good luck Tinman and keep pulling fat chips 👊
@andybecker26933 жыл бұрын
I’m 51 now and I remember dad teaching me to mix fuel for a 1960’s Lawn Boy mower. It had to be mixed at 16:1 or an 8 oz. can of Lawn Boy mix oil. In 1979 dad bought a new Lawn Boy and it was 32:1 so dad bought a Ratio Rite measuring cup. He put a mark on 4 oz. to help me. I have loved 2 strokes in every form since then from radio control to motorcycles to saws.
@markzadlock42292 жыл бұрын
Those pioneers run forever ! Such great saws. Ran a p62 years ago n trying to find one to buy now.
@stevengamsby53443 жыл бұрын
Love those saws I have a P42 and a poulan pro 655 witch is a P62 just newer great saws but my favorite saw is my McCulloch pro Mac 8200 now great show my friend thank you for your videos
@neilcurtis27413 жыл бұрын
I can smell the two stroke from here…. Oh wait that’s me. Love those reed ported pioneers. If one of your holzfforma bars is a husky mount it should slide right on
@johnwoody49052 жыл бұрын
i am so old i remeber them. nice saw love the sound. take care, be safe and well.
@mrxlh3 жыл бұрын
Always nice when you can get 1 running in short order without much time/money invested in it.
@tazman-kennyfuller3 жыл бұрын
She's a runner. I love how the Ole Pioneer oilers flat out oil. For sure long bar saws. Love it. 🌲❤🌲👊🪓
@robertsimard7359 ай бұрын
Great instructive video. Thanks for taking the time to share.
@davidheron68533 жыл бұрын
Great to see the old saws get another shot at livin.
@daveovington5525 Жыл бұрын
Awesome , thanks for this video !! I have the identical saw ,has loads of compression and spark but isn't getting fuel so now I know to change the line and do the carb. I had a feeling that I'd have to do the carb and now I know . Such a cool saw though. I also have a 1074 but it's not getting spark so that's another day project lol.
@jjpdawgs89562 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video Tinman!! Got me interested in getting and old power saw!
@chrismacmillan35353 жыл бұрын
I love my Pioneers. Have both a P40 and a P41, they are my favorite saws.
@Syncop8rNZ3 жыл бұрын
What a lovely saw - a cool design and a nice amount of 'beausage'.
@johnrosier16863 жыл бұрын
The old saw sounded real good once you got it going. Great to see and hear the old saws running.
@felixbinette97523 жыл бұрын
Well I love the carb kit info thought I was screwed up for buying the cheap kits but they work. Cool Saw that one came to life quick
@aeridyne3 жыл бұрын
Wow you got lucky, seemed like just needed the carb tightened or the jets just right but seals seem OK! That's something I always find amazing about some old saws when the seals are still good and they are friggin 50 years + old. Just amazing and you'd never expect that. good old saw.
@joutdoorsmen233 жыл бұрын
Awesome Tinman it’s so cool to see that’s is so simple sometimes to fix them!!
@tinmanssaws3 жыл бұрын
Once in a awhile I get lucky!!
@nathanielschofield27293 жыл бұрын
@@tinmanssaws Yeah I been buying old saws ever since i started watching bukin then found the tinman,,, I got a p25, xl 76 and just got a homelite c51, they all run great.
@scavuman3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I have a P-40 that I intend to get running, this video was inspirational, Thank You.
@patrickbass31183 жыл бұрын
I have a P40 it's my favorite saw. Awesome content tin man!
@cameronhamer94323 жыл бұрын
My first saw was a pioneer, heavy weighed almost as much as I did . Like you videos , keep them coming The best fuel line
@230e43 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that ol pioneer run! Grease the clutch drum bearing and cut some wood.
@claudehebert3131 Жыл бұрын
My father had the exact same saw if I recall (I don't think it's a P41). 1975 vintage or so. I've inherited this saw, I'll have to look in the shed. My saw is a little weak in compression, probably worn-out piston rings. It's been modded from points ignition to electronic ignition by our local shop and I remember my father saying it gave it a little bit more power. He used pioneer saws as a lumberjack in the 60's and said to me that, contrary to the McCullochs and some other brands, never tun at WOT through entire cuts, as you'll end blowing these saws. They have a lot of RPM in them. Always throttle them through a cut. That said my father always ran his saws a little bit on the oily side (a little bit more oil than necessary) It is probably why the saw survived years of use and abuse (18-25 cords per winter). I will try to revive my saw in a more or less distant future; the chain and plates are also worn out.
@welshwarrior7973 жыл бұрын
Excellent video my friend. I just purchased a nice looking little Homelite super xl 12. dont see many of them around my area and i wanted one as a kid. Its in the post so as you can imagine im like a kid waiting for xmas 😀😀😀😀😀 The small things right😀😀
@ChevyGuy703 жыл бұрын
P40’s have such a good look about them 😎 love your videos Tinman 👍
@Righound43 жыл бұрын
Just a carb job and the old saw runs! Sounds nice, time to cut 1/2 a load on the wood Wiesel with that unit!
@rwd1973 Жыл бұрын
It seems similar to my Partner 350 from the 80's. I got it for free from a friend to cut some fire wood and it works perfect. Impressingly light weight.
@davesmith69292 жыл бұрын
I was given an old homelite mini chainsaw, it's tough to start but runs real good once it's started, probably needs the carb cleaned
@jasonmercer99623 жыл бұрын
Run some Echo Red in that P40 and it will clean up that piston. Fun video.
@jimgroulx39563 жыл бұрын
Hey Tinman, thanks for the vid. As usual you are a wealth of information but best of all its great getting up on a cold northern Sat AM and having a vid to watch…..kinda gets the juices going. I have a pro mac 650 with almost no hours thats been in storage for 30-35 years and its time to get at er. I think that saw is a little different for a Mac. I believe it was actually made in California probably at the time the company was in transition.
@olafvidar93153 жыл бұрын
Love that saw! Really cool Tinman.
@fredhonaker58652 жыл бұрын
That’s very cool , when I was a kid I remember my dad had a pioneer looked just like that , he swore by the pioneer saw’s 😊
@samstone27722 жыл бұрын
P26 has aluminum pull cord spool rather then plastic. I swapped it out in my p41. Plastic just can't take the stress.
@rodneyyazzie37393 жыл бұрын
Nice saw bubby, always brother 👌 love the videos and info, be safe and take care of yourself and family.
@justinweaver87873 жыл бұрын
Sweet ol saw buddy hope u are well. Have a good weekend.
@kingsaws3 жыл бұрын
Sweet saw man! Just picked up a p28 the other day
@timwatson72543 жыл бұрын
That old saw was the best back in the day had a new one cutting pulp wood in the 70s
@wildefox14783 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and subbed, I love old vintage saws and collect them, just recently got my Homelite C5 running and it's a quad reed saw, 4 reeds! That old Pioneer sure sounds great!
@307j.o.a.t93 жыл бұрын
Nice ol saw! Cant wait to see it cutting... maybe in may or june...
@mikecook27142 жыл бұрын
I had one like this over 30 years ago. It ate wood like candy
@newagelumberjack3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up my first mcculloch 10-10! This is going to help me so much getting it back to running! Thank you for the info
@erwinwilde31092 жыл бұрын
Love my p -40. Just a great running powerful saw. Found out after watching this video I'm missing the big rubber carb boot though. Have a spare? Yeah, this winter has been brutal. Massive amounts of snow with temperatures 10 degrees below normal. As I type this we're getting our third blizzard in a month.
@stevetheriault41643 жыл бұрын
HOMELITE coils work on pioneers
@NothingButChainsaws3 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty awesome, I put a Husqvarna 272xp carb on a p50. Fit pretty good!
@justinweaver87873 жыл бұрын
Cool buddy
@ktrudeau3403 жыл бұрын
I’m super excited. I have a farm saw that I inherited from the dad in-law. I’m looking forward to getting it going and eventually porting it.
@simonbrown43143 жыл бұрын
I have one too and it pulls like mad. I’m still tinkering with it but it is a good saw
@michaelgarrow32393 жыл бұрын
Love the patina!
@brucenicov12243 жыл бұрын
That’s a great beast!! Nice one bud!! I’ve got a soft spot for old Pioneers. I’ve got an old 2073 that needs work on the recoil.
@BrucesShop3 жыл бұрын
I love this Bruce from Alberta.
@tinmanssaws3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bruce
@brianking11383 жыл бұрын
That's a cool old saw and it sounds great .
@timidater48033 жыл бұрын
love your vids! dont know how you guys take that nasty weather!!!
@tinmanssaws3 жыл бұрын
We're used to it.
@timidater48033 жыл бұрын
@@tinmanssaws I guess!!LOL! Im too old for that cold!!
@donjohnson91702 жыл бұрын
Back in the late 70s early 80s. We sale lot pioneers. For pioneer northwest I now have 4 of them that working
@jamiedalluge94723 жыл бұрын
We think alot alike my friend. I think that saw looks amazing as well as is
@zachmetcalf38923 жыл бұрын
The P20 I picked up last year was Carboned up the same way. Good to know why it was like that. Thanks!
@michaelwhiteoldtimer76483 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you got it going good, now to see it cutting
@flmulcahy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial. I have a P50 I am about to tackle.
@kenwheeler92353 жыл бұрын
Same with the pull start I have a p61 needs the guts for it
@MrRasmusolsen2 жыл бұрын
Hello Tinman Morning coffee and vintage saw video, great! When are you doing a follow-up video on this machine¿¿¿ Keep up the good work Rasmus, Denmark
@aaronpowell48853 жыл бұрын
That was someone's partner in the woods🌲 worked hard and pretty well maintained! I try to keep a roll of pigmat around, put sheets of it under saws on my shelf and use it on the bench for those messy projects!
@skravlesen3 жыл бұрын
I inherited an old Mac 2-10 after my great grandfather. The label on top say 20:1 SAE 40/50, or 40:1 premium two stoke oil. The whole thing smells like hydraulic oil, so I recon thats what he used as bar oil in the 60-70's. Can't wait to get that Mac running after finishing my second porting project😁
@jeremyhurtubise65513 жыл бұрын
Awesome video i was excited to hear it run
@chrisssmallengines71633 жыл бұрын
I have a P51 , the cylinder looks great . Wondering about the pull start .
@thesmallwoodlot4333 жыл бұрын
Ok Tinman, I will send an email when I did into my skilsaw, ( also a PM Canada saw),just got my mac 10/10 A going and into some wood, and will soon have my homelite super xl in some wood!may need to know who your carb kit suppliers are, as everyone one I have gotten here has been missing gaskets or something else!
@motordiverse12763 жыл бұрын
Hey ! Finaly it run well. When rep kitting a carburetor...could it not be like air bubbles in the carb...needed to be pushed through ...and thats why it bugged town several times before it settled ? Nice saw !
@stevencrowe15233 жыл бұрын
I would love to find someone to port my poulan pro 455 and my poulan pro 655bp and pioneer p60 all run great just would love to have them ported
@jtrocktree54093 жыл бұрын
Waiting for you to find a late 70's jobu. Saw , made in east Europe, used them in northern Maine, screaming banshee .
@siegingclan20703 жыл бұрын
I’m putting a hyway kit on a husky 350 and the rings they sent won’t even fit in the cylinder And the piston is pretty snug in the cylinder looks a little to big in my opinion have you ever had that issue
@shakdidagalimal2 жыл бұрын
66ccm , 9500 cut rpm, 28 inch max bar, chrome bore, 2 rings, 1973 -1976, chain break optional late production.
@Banshee350speed3 жыл бұрын
Yep, they used to mix the fuel @ 20:1 with 30wt motor oil.....back in the day
@Banshee350speed3 жыл бұрын
My grandpa used to have a McCulloch 1-70 Dad has it now
@ryanmoy6253 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos TM!
@mikeremski21023 жыл бұрын
Turdy? I'd say "sleeper". Just like the old station wagon with a supercharged engine you see cruising down the highway.
@glenspryszak60053 жыл бұрын
You would probably like to see my restored P28. Original parts. Was in storage for 23 years and runs.....And has almost all the paint on it.... I found it needed a fast idle too... Who do you use for a reliable parts supplier for these old saws?
@pioneerman84673 жыл бұрын
I've gotten a few of those",plus a late 1958 1959 pioneer 1700 that came from my dad
@clarencetrice44423 жыл бұрын
HEY tinman buddy I also remember pioneer chainsaws when I was a kid in the 1970S you 😉😀 don't 👀 see them any more cutting wood all of those are old OLD SCHOOL I LOVE a another animal by their self 😀😄 OMG 2 2 2022
@darrenhawken97663 жыл бұрын
Great vid , got the same saw , not got around to.it yet , what size /diameter is your fuel line? Many thanks.
@Revellersaws3 жыл бұрын
Tore down a saw the other day that had BOTH the ethanol and non ethanol versions of the pump flappermejingy installed. Still not sure how they decided what order to put them in......
@tinmanssaws3 жыл бұрын
I've seen that on a couple carbs. Both saws didn't run too good
@darrelljohnson46583 жыл бұрын
Nice work sawrus good 👍
@nathanielschofield27293 жыл бұрын
Hey tinman< guess you got to chop off a finger to get that together.. lol. I got a p25 Love to see one ported..
@stevetheriault41643 жыл бұрын
Great job cleaning that up Tinman
@jensenwilliam54343 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@bonzaibarty2 жыл бұрын
Good job! I have a p,40 and a p60. Do you have parts for sale for me then?
@wildmanbill692 жыл бұрын
I have a Pioneer from the 60's that I want to get running again.
@bradslepicka42032 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the great video! Would you happen to know where I could get a rewind spring for the p41?
@jeffreyrubish3473 жыл бұрын
Well, that was easy! I'm stalled on my Jonsereds as no heat in the garage. It'll wait till spring. 🙂
@codychilders83073 жыл бұрын
I had a customers cs-400 do this…. Fuel filter was dirty. Leaned out and said goodbye to the piston. The customer later told me he ran sea-foam through it because he couldn’t get it to run very well.
@dennishartford20772 жыл бұрын
Put the husky carb on it did mine and its seems to have added 3 hp!!!
@Saw_Squatch3 жыл бұрын
Not to take away from the pioneer, cause I really dig 'em, but I've been looking through your channel and I don't think I've seen any blue homelites. Now that's something I wouldn't mind seeing on your bench.