Pir and Toothy | EDH Budget Deck Tech $25 | Voltron | Magic the Gathering | Commander

[@HelloWorld-hy9xq]

Haha! You said the $25 budget is for 99 cards in the intro, but it's actually 98 this time.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

You got me haha

[@naokikashima8054]

Scriiiiipts. Not that that’s bad. The clear and concise script is actually one of my favorite parts of your channel.

[@stormybaker4135]

Pir and Toothy will be 300% better after War of the Spark hits ;) be nice to jam some new uncommon planeswalkers and proliferate in a budget pir/toothy deck

[@wdonica]

Hunter's Prowess would go great in this deck, too. (4)(G) Sorcery. Until end of turn, target creature gets +3/+3 and gains trample and "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, draw that many cards." It's like 25 cents. This card could make Toothy fecking huge.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Absolutely! I like Insight slightly better, because it is cheaper and at instant speed so opponent's don't see it coming, but Prowess is good too!

[@Tomas-ym9bi]

On april fools do an episode on the most expensive angus mckenzie deck and call it your new series "rob the Bank"

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

I like it! But something may already be planned for that day...

[@Tomas-ym9bi]

@@TheCommandersQuarters coming from you I'll know it will be great anyways

[@rozeuly]

I love your content, it may not be for me but I love that you help people see how cheap and fun EDH can be. Your decks are defiantly solid.

[@snowhateswinter4712]

Awesome video! My pir and toothy commander deck is my favorite deck I own, I built it after I opened them at prerelease for battlebond and I’ve been upgrading them ever since. For anyone looking at this, the deck he presented here is an amazing base for a pir and toothy deck. Many of the cards he used here I’m running in mine despite it being worth a decent amount by now. Glad to see my favorites get some love :)

[@trytoxania7020]

I LOVE that you added what you would swap the upgrades for!

[@nickhenderson6296]

Just became a patron yesterday. This is someone who I am pleased to invest in because the consistent, great content is worth it! Keep it up Mitch!!

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Thank you so much for your support! I am glad you are enjoying the channel and I hope you enjoy the upcoming videos just as much!

[@rb4121]

Hell yes, I was looking for this and knew you wouldn't disappoint

[@HeadcrabAndAce]

I can only “Imagine” how well this is gonna run

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Haha well done

[@crovax1375]

Great video! My brother plays a Pir/Toothy deck, so I'm going to show him this video and see what he thinks.

[@Voldenmist]

What, no Prime Speaker Zegana in the reasonable upgrades? Get a creature twice as powerful as your toothy which draws you that many cards tripling your toothy's power. Definitely needs to be in the list.

[@tlblitz42]

No, Zegana would be 2 bigger than Toothy (1 for base power, 1 for Pir adding 1 counter), not twice as big. You would still more-than-triple Toothy by drawing cards equal to Toothy + 2, then placing twice that many counters on Toothy, but Zegana places her counters simultaneously, not as individual triggers. Pir doubles Toothy’s production specifically because Toothy places each counter as an individual trigger per card drawn

[@samniemann6890]

Chasm Skulker is great in this deck too. Basically back up Toothy.

[@cinderheart2720]

I feel like more of these decks you make should run search for tomorrow. It's cheap dollarwise and actually quite powerful.

[@jorpfYT]

Awesome video! Can't wait to make some tweaks to my current Pir & Toothy deck with these ideas.

[@katyherber5784]

Try adding Quasiduplicate $0.64. Due to the legendary rule, Toothy will be moved to the command zone, and you will draw all those cards, doubling the counters in your token Toothy. Then jump start it, and double the counters again! It won't cause the player to lose to commander damage, but I've won games because of that synergy.

[@Scheuersicle]

"Two far gone" Perfect.

[@laurensdeclercq811]

I actually have a vorel deck and I absolutely love it. Just added bident of thassa and lure, works great in the deck.

[@alijups6537]

Holy what an awesome deck! I have placed my order with some upgrades. pls don´t forget "Ordeal of Thassa" for more counters and carddraw, also "Ordeal of Nylea" for ramping! love your content! and hopefully we will see an 100$ upgrade :P

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

Pir and Toothy is definitely a great value deck. Our local magic club keeps one that always seems to perform well. That’s not surprising though, with green being great ramp and blue being great card draw. If you’re looking for a good deck/starting, this definitely has some good interactions

[@junhianling]

First partner commander. Wow now let's see what's the first tcq planswalker deck will be like?

[@robertreece5286]

Some of these cards are going to make my Pir and Toothy deck so much better. I have been looking for a way to modify my deck some and these are good choices.

[@demonzero677]

I like it, though I would have taken a few choice graft creatures like plaxcaster frog and the llanowar graft land and thrown an in, I believe pir will trigger on them etb with graft and give em an extra counter, as well as when they transfer counters with graft, so toothy can get a lot of mileage out of an as well.

[@danieljones8191]

Yo! Great deck tech! I've watched a good many of your videos and this deck tech probably has me the most excited! Can't wait to build this one.

[@zoobnash]

These discard/draw cards are exactly what I used ofr my Niv-Mizzet, Parun deck.

[@beetlebubz6469]

Wow, the first partner commander and its awesome! Keep up the great work

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Thanks! Will do!

[@puffin-onehandedgamer1164]

this is very interesting. I'm looking forward to the break the bank version of this. I just bought The Lucust god which is also a windfall deck, so I really like this one. Prime speaker Sagana does make toothy 3 times as huge.

[@thatoneloser9623]

I think Chasm Stalker would make a good insurance policy against wipes, same first effect as toothy, but when it dies it creates that many 1/1 squids instead of drawing.

[@tlblitz42]

that one loser Islandwalk squids, at that. Woe be the blue player when a wrath comes down while they’re tapped out

[@jonstephenson9660]

I was actually working on this myself... Thanks for the insight

[@Drewbe821]

Sweet deck tech. I'm finishing up a Virtus/Gorm build at the moment. I may have to give this deck a try after, since I already have Pir and Toothy.

[@dreddbolt]

Flux Channeler, Evolution Sage, Thrumming Bird, and Guildpact Informant would be interesting additions.

[@brynt91]

can't wait to see what you have cooked up for april fools

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Who told you!??! Haha

[@cinderheart2720]

@@TheCommandersQuarters Is it the reverse card from UNO?

[@etert7155]

@@TheCommandersQuarters X deck?

[@xChikyx]

Maybe a diamond commander 🤔

[@joranmoore5663]

I hope it's Dr. Julius.

[@TnumsProd]

Currently running Arixmethes with no real set strategy. Think I might alternate with these guys, the additional slumber counter from Pir would be annoying but not too bad.

[@minimize4211]

My favourite pair!! Love this deck already :)

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Glad you like it!

[@goofboy27]

I've been patiently waiting for a Marwyn the Nurterer deck tech, I'll keep waiting

[@xChikyx]

just play lots of elves... all elves decks play the same 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@jaydenhoffbauer8828]

Chiky Scares You no I have a yisan combo elf deck that doesn’t play a lot like a ezuri or a Marilyn deck

[@xChikyx]

@@jaydenhoffbauer8828 exactly, a yisan combo deck, not an elves deck

[@jaydenhoffbauer8828]

Chiky Scares You the yisan deck uses elves like oracle of mul daya rofelos lanowar emissary and other cards which is still elf ball to win

[@xChikyx]

@@jaydenhoffbauer8828 yeah, but it's a combo deck, elves decks normally are mana dorks and pump spells

[@HiroZeroVirus]

Mmmmm that deepglow skate and doubling season though....also I get into way to many games where someone doesn’t take damage for some reason(fog or worship or whatever). I would include laboratory maniac to pump toothy to the roof and mill out

[@deamontube30]

I know this might not be very nice , but having labratory maniac is a good idea . Also reliquary tower should definitely be in this vid .

[@SnailMan307]

I just packed these lovable goons! Can’t wait to build this and I’d love to see a 100 super budget vid

[@darkrams9653]

My favorite commander deck

[@chaoticrevenge7950]

I have a pir and toothy deck and its my favorite deck. Its a superfriends deck and its really powerful.

[@chaoticrevenge7950]

@Nik Heimach tappedout.net/mtg-decks/22-12-18-pir-and-toothy-edh/ decks not 100% up to date and I'll be adding more walkers when War comes around.

[@nathanschmaltz672]

Always enjoy your content and your builds. Have you done any articles or videos about the theory of how you craft your decks? I think that would be great.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

I haven’t yet, but it’s definitely something I have considered! May have to tackle that in the future

[@nathanschmaltz672]

@@TheCommandersQuarters that's something I'd be very interested in. I've used your strategies in your videos to help me make my decks and I would love a deeper look into how you develop them.

[@slumpysparrow8881]

Nice vid, but what about adding conjurer’s closet in as a reasonable upgrade. You can draw insane cards and put insane counters on tooth each turn.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

A great addition as well!

[@nicktheperson6251]

I don’t think the blink effects would double the counters because Toothy isn’t on the battlefield when you draw the cards.

[@igorgrecia3915]

Repeating my answer to another comment of the same kind. Triggers are only put into the stack when a player receives priority. No player has priority while a spell is resolving and they won't gain until the spells fully resolves. When you cast Essence Flux and the like on Toothy, it will be exiled and the game will see that it has triggers to go on the stack, but they won't go in the stack just yet because the spell didn't fully resolve. Then Toothy comes back, the spell fully resolves, and now the triggers go in the stack. This way when you draw the cards, Toothy is already on the battlefield and will see you drawing the cards, thus getting the counters from each card drawn. Hope this clarifies your doubts mate

[@EnJaded0]

I fully expect an ‘Un-‘ commander deck for April Fools...

[@Yuzuki1337]

Urza, Academy Headmaster would be sweet but unlikely, maybe one of the Timmy/Jonny/Spike cards?

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

I hope you are not disappointed with my pick haha

[@nomercyformayhem4774]

Is Earl of Squirrels a legendary creature? If yes, I hope so much that it will be the commander

[@Licjr]

#CommanderTibaltReportingForDuty

[@jamesevans6332]

Spike, Tournament Grinder with the five pieces of Exodia

[@darthenoh]

Just a side note, but maulfist revolutionary has the same effect as Pir, which effectively triples the number of counters put on toothy.

[@BoBnfishy]

Pir and toothy are my favorite of the decks I've built

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

They are quite fun!

[@NicksMagicstorytime]

I play a similar Pir & Toothy deck, like this one it is more a "Toothy deck," focusing on him and not as much on Pir. I think your extra card draw is a bit overkill with too many slots dedicated to it and too many big draws. Flickering Toothy is nearly all you need. Draw 7, Toothy gets 14 more counters, and then they kill him or bounce him and you draw 14 plus what he had before? It doesn't need that much to get out of control, and the more you have the more likely you are to deck yourself if Toothy leaves the field with too many counters. And since built on a budget, you are not playing Lab Man, you especially want to watch that. I think Shadow Rift, Touch of Invisibility, and maybe Traveler's Cloak are fine budget plays to draw a single card and make Toothy unblockable . And it is "flickering" not "blinking" named after the white Urza's Destiny card "Flicker" and further solidified with the first blue one, "Ghostly Flicker," although I've read that within Magic R&D hey use the terms "flicker" and "insta-flicker" to differentiate between the two effects, "insta-flicker" being the one that returns the creature to play immediately. I haven't spent much money on my P&T deck, but I had most of the cards when I opened them at my local Battlebond release event because my deck used to be a Kruphix deck, and before that a Prime Speaker Zegana deck designed to flicker Zegana and draw most of my deck and sit back and counter anything that tries to stop me from winning. To facilitate this it required I play a bunch of "Maro creatures" which most are blue and/or green. Pir and Toothy is so much better and removes the need for the Maros (except Psychosis Crawler, Thishana, and Empyrial Plate or "Pir's Armor"). I play a bunch of ETB effect creatures which essentially turns the "flicker " spells into other kinds of cards depending on what ETB creatures I have in pay. Not sure how "budget" they are, but I play six "no-max hand-size" cards cause I don't want to discard thereby keeping my options open when controling the board after big draws. Also not "budget" and increasingly not so because of certain You Tubers hyping them, but "flash enablers" like Vedalken Orrery, Leyline of Anticipation, and Alchemist's Refuge (and likely the new Emergence Zone) are great, cause if Toothy dies you can recast him from the command zone before his leave the battlefield trigger resolves. Gross and a surprise to some players. "Oh, yeah. That's a thing." Anyway, great deck tech!

[@nickeckhoff]

I've been decked out from Toothy having too many counters before. I had him up to 20 and someone running another simic deck went and added like 30 more, naturalized my greaves, then blinked him. That was a fun way to lose, but you know... still lost.

[@TheVurian]

Can you update this to include any changes you would make with war of the spark out? I feel like that set will really improve this deck

[@TheTurophile]

At 11:57 it should be "each player shuffles their hand AND graveyard into their libraries"

[@andrewvirtue5048]

Dude! Nice deck. My friend runs the deck, and I see a few tactics he needs.

[@hjthesurvivor2757]

Okay you have to be reading my mind first I was looking for a good build for xantcha then I saw jumbo commanders pir and toothy build and was like dang i need a budget version and welp here i am again!

[@legokid9088]

This is exactly what I wanted thank you 🤩

[@2dendre]

Yes. More Simic commanders!

[@johduclos9141]

I’d say add Hydra growth. Doubles the counters on a creature every turn!

[@nikounourbakhsh8433]

You should put slip through space into this deck its perfect.

[@titto1990]

a nekusar deck tech would be nice! :)

[@lidolf8168]

Thanks so much for doing a deck tech that I asked for in the comments.

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Glad you like it!

[@ShifuDaxiongmao]

Would love to see this as a break the bank deck and how much changes. Does it leave the Voltron and go for a bunch of creatures that provide great benefit with the counters on them and add doubling season within that bigger budget? :)

[@mikerider5618]

Interesting deck I'll will consider it nice job by the way

[@jadiekat56]

Yes!

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Indeed!!!

[@jayhenry2197]

I'm confused by the blink/draw cards with Toothy. Toothy gets exiled, so you draw cards.... but if he's still exiled how does he get the counters from that? Is he already back in play by the time the trigger resolves? It doesn't seem like it. Still building this deck though. Looks like a ton of fun.

[@Pimepto]

I'm not good at explaining rules but yes, that's how it works (:

[@jessehale9273]

Jay Henry you exile then return to the battlefield, THEN draw the cards

[@brandonharris1113]

Yeah, since it’s an instant exile then return, he leaves, comes back, you draw cards, then he gets counters

[@jayhenry2197]

But if the card draw triggers from the exile, how is it not Exile, Draw, Return?

[@jessehale9273]

Jay Henry it’s how the stack works, you do what the card says first, then you do the trigger from toothy

[@mannyramirez5630]

What do yoy know, my toothy and pir literally just came in. I like the voltron build and it seems more competitive, but I'm going to try and brew something more simic evolve, probably means putting pur and tooth in the 99 though.

[@someweirddog868]

So many upgrades to do to mine...

[@Isbooyah]

I would love to see a deck tech on zedruu the great hearted. It's a deck I want to make so bad but just dont want to pump so much money into it

[@ottovandenelzen4972]

is it just me or is every time the deck more expensive after 10 mins the video released? no hate just bothering, love your vids

[@jesusmillan1922]

Well the decks are made using tcgplayer optimization so the decks are made using heavily played cards which are cheaper than the cards original average price.

[@NerdySatyr]

Pretty much always happens, all the damaged/played cards sell leaving only the normal ones, then lots of people buy the decks so card prices go up, still most of the decks can be built for sub $50 which is still incredibly budget

[@Fdragon1337]

Hey TCG player does know what they're doing

[@spawnofnerds1843]

Would love to see the black rose break the bank. Also the journal guy is good

[@horrorcult1322]

I really enjoy the content that you put out and I don't want to come across rude when I say this, but I have to ask. How practical are these decks? Magic for the most part has the "more you pay the more interactions and things you can do" sorta thing(or at least it seems like that). Are these decks really only good if your whole groups is playing ultra budgets like these? or can these things hold their own against something in the maybe 100-200 range. I'm only asking because I've always been a budget player until recently when I finally decided to start investing into a deck and make it as strong as I could. I know from experience that as a budget player it was awful. I always lost to decks who spent more money in them and I never had fun. If you see this I'd love a reply. If not I still love your content and seeing how you brew up these things for 25 bucks lol. Edit: Spelled a word wrong.

[@LTKILLER11]

will you do an Jund Kresh budget one day ? i made an Commander based on him but he doesn't work as well as i wanted. I hope you can do this one day ! And keep doing this, your vids are amazing !

[@Avatarbee]

13:34 Good to know that I am not the only one who thinks that his creature type is weird.

[@zacrance]

I love it. But a focus on making toothy unlockable is needed in my opinion.

[@demitriousk]

As a locust god player... I approve of UG wheels :D

[@TheCommandersQuarters]

Gotta love wheels!

[@demitriousk]

The Commander's Quarters one thing people don’t realize is that ramping into an early wheel is severely disruptive to your opponents. They are busy sculpting a hand they decided to keep and you just #nope it all away. Better than a counterspell nine times out of ten.

[@Dongdangler5000]

Does Wizard Class Have a place in this deck? What would be a good card to replace?

[@palodani58]

Dos the never gone tactic work? Because if you blink, you wont get the drawing cards effect when he comes to the battlefield

[@stevenveerman456]

Will and Rowan Kenrith next?

[@Neurohopper]

Man I love your content. Any chance of you doing a Thantis the Warweaver deck?

[@pedrolongoria5667]

Any recommendations for a mazirek insect tribal build I am having trouble and I trust your advice as all your series got me interested in magic again and has rekindled the joy of the game while be budget friendly for that thank you

[@joecab1]

Is there a Pedantic D-Bag card for all the people mentioning that you only showed 98 cards rather than 99?

[@comfynt]

Can you make a +1/+1 counter deck for pir and toothy as well?

[@highintlowwis6580]

I dont see how essence flux and Siren's ruse help? When a creature is exiled it loses all its counters (even if it comes back to the field) and you draw cards from toothy's trigger BEFORE he comes back so he wont be getting anything from it...

[@etert7155]

Toothy draw trigger goes on the stack when he leaves the battlefield. But before the draw trigger can resolve, the blink spell has to finish resolving bc you can't resolve two spells at once. The spell resolves and Toothy comes back, then the draw trigger resolves.

[@nerfprate]

Where's signed wayfairer's bauble?

[@joshwestgate3383]

Can you do a Tuvasla enchantress deck

[@tftraw2030]

I wanna see a phage the untouchable deck tech...

[@razielkasimer760]

Ob nixilis the fallen?

[@crafttyy]

9:18 Why doesn’t the card just say “enchanted creature has flying and hexproof”

[@hjaltihjartarson]

Hexproof is a newer mechanic

[@crafttyy]

@@hjaltihjartarson But flying wasn't

[@hjaltihjartarson]

He doesnt have flying 😁 Just attacks as if he has flying

[@crafttyy]

Yup my bad I completely forgot about blocks

[@ozrithclay6921]

*haven't seen the video yet Golden pig should be Deadeye Navigator. Let's see if you agree *after seeing the video What?..... Not even a reasonable upgrade?

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761]

Why? What does it do?

[@toniconge7003]

I don't see how that would be golden pig worthy for this deck along with it being a $4 card.

[@nonawhite4277]

Kynaios and Tiro?

[@hydra1259]

Hydra’s growth?

[@deathstroke7930]

Didn't know the micro machine man did deck techs.

[@stefanjordan4770]

Please do a break the bank on Gishath sun avatar next? I've been waiting for months

[@dannydaniel3717]

Why is it when I add their deck to my tcg cart and the price is well over $25 hell some of these decks for came out to $50! Seeing those prices it's more like commanders 2 quarters :( And it's so frustrating, like my friends and I want to buy some of these decks but dont always want to spend more then we are told we can spend on them. And yes I did try to optimize the cart and still, well over the price mentioned at the end of the video :'(

[@tornadojoe87]

you know what really makes me sad? ive been wanting Forgotten Ancient on MTGO for a bunch of decks i have but it costs around 8tix~$8

[@SworlL]

It's not $25 off TCG for everything, obviously minus Toothy and Pir, and even with the islands removed, and optimized. I think it came out to about $67

[@SpamTheWonderful]

My dude

[@joranmoore5663]

What? No Laboratory Maniac?

[@crispy1989]

I'd swap Ring of Evos Isle for Mask of Avacyn

[@kami4115]

Try Zegana utopian speaker to give toothy trample and it can draw you a card

[@turtlemoron4834]

Omg clones 🤯

[@crazzzylazerbeamz6220]

Wow pir and toothy used to be like a buck or two apiece. What happened?

[@GriffinAmongOceans]

Maaaan I was gonna buy this for fun. But it’s now $100 lol