Intense Commander Battle w/ Jesper Ejsing & Ashlen Rose | Extra Turns 05 | Magic: The Gathering

[@J03Y42NA]

Its not just that Jesper is a monster for playing a hatebear deck. He's a monster for having his Tropical Island upside-down for 90% of the game

[@monkeygame7]

He seemed to do that with all the OG duals. I wonder why (maybe it's just to tilt people lol)

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

@@monkeygame7, he was not attentive to if he rotated each land counterclockwise, or clockwise.

[@nicholasbolas]

I run some of my cards upside down for my opponents to read. It may not look nice for presentation but it can be very practical. Also means I don't have to say anything unnecessary. I can just point to the card and keep any secrets/bluffs/mysteries. As for the trop I guess it's nicer when it's facing the cam right side up LMAO

[@ygaudreault]

hatebears are great.

[@isaiahneski6009]

Yeah why is it fair he brings a high tier deck and everyone else has Jann pretty much

[@aidennoir597]

Jesper always sounds so pleasant and affable as he plays some of the most oppressive cards ever printed, lol.

[@andrewsparkes8829]

This is what a lot of people in my LGS are like - utterly kind, funny and overall brilliant people to know, but in a Magic game...yeah, that's another story!

[@nonk4552]

Well depending on the card his paying himself

[@nicholasbolas]

Haven't you watched enough dramas to note that the nicest guys are the villains lol

[@geoffwilliams6072]

I could not stand this guy

[@TheBiddy100]

It's like Serge from LoadingReadyRun

[@JustforKikX]

"He's playing a Thrasios and Tymna deck" Uh oh......I can already see how this is going to go.

[@nicholasbolas]

IKR. There was almost always a favorite the moment names were announced.

[@emptygee5882]

Exactly

[@isaiahneski6009]

I mean he literally just played a top tier deck.

[@eric0967]

@@isaiahneski6009 its not a top tier tymna deck it was high power. ashlyns extra turns yuriko deck might be more powerful. thats why he was focusing her down till josh started going off.

[@isaiahneski6009]

Eric09 lol I know it’s not optimized, but his deck is very strong. Much stronger than 2/3 decks at the table and the 3rd was not drawing well.

[@2leftarms]

Jesper seems like the sweetest man alive but also history’s greatest monster

[@ferdithetank7535]

Ironic. The most beatifull things ever witnessed are also the deadliest of their kind. Poisonous herbs, venomous snakes, explosion shockwaves..

[@nicholasbolas]

Nicest guys always play the villain mate.

[@jamescouncillor7926]

@@nicholasbolas lol no, the guy from England always plays the villain. It's something about the accent lol

[@alecpogson7585]

@James Councillor As a Brit this personally offends me

[@7swordquanta459]

After seeing the entire episode, I can't help but compare Jesper to Amaz. Jesper is the guy you want to kill by stabbing a sword/knife to the heart and relishing every minute of it. Amaz, on the other hand, is that guy you want to kill by shooting with a gun and just enjoy all of the blood and head organs flying around the room, with absolutely no remorse whatsoever. BTW, not trying to be mean or brutal. Just trying to compare the two in terms of salt-inducing villainy

[@sea81793]

People at table: "I'll attempt to play..." Jesper: " You have my blessing."

[@ben7887]

Kk

[@sprocketscribbler8359]

Dude this guy drew THE colossal dreadmaw. We’re looking at a legend!

[@DevouringKing]

i like the "Bull Cerodon" & "Ghitu Lavarunner" & "Knight of the Tusk" & "Trynn, Champion of Freedom" drawing from him.

[@coreysierchio4650]

"All Hail the Dreadmaw!"

[@crosshroomhead]

@@DevouringKing sure but those aren't the god of meme cards :p

[@Tacklepig]

@@crosshroomhead that's still Storm Crow.

[@siobhangraham7280]

His art is really unfortunate. Has all this talent, and still falls into the trap of trying to draw every woman as being sexy. The boob-plate is just cringey to look at.

[@oliviauzquiano7392]

Strip mine letting gaea's cradle just exist is so painful... I know there was a deal to not destroy it but come on, it's gaea's cradle!

[@deadso]

It's the sole reason I bought Strip Mine back when

[@FixerFour]

@@deadso I mean.. wasteland is a thing too.

[@paulmcclain642]

I wonder if she forgot it was there? I know sometimes I forget about early cards I played on crowded boards. Then again I highly doubt all 3 players would forget it when cradle came out--to me that was the biggest misplay of the game.

[@dustyfox6511]

It's nearly impossible to find a Command Zone game not decided by misplays.

[@ertai222]

@@dustyfox6511 we all misplay. It's just a matter of who misplays the least.

[@federicokina9998]

"So Jesper, what's the theme of your deck?" "Basically I put everything that can piss off people, so the ulcers they develop can give me a tactical advantage"

[@Fractalmortality]

And then I feast on salt ftw

[@ferdithetank7535]

But... It's just a regular non-Consultation version of Tymna-Thrassios. cEDH stuff.

[@federicokina9998]

@@ferdithetank7535 still, this doesn't conflicts with my description

[@antoniopaolitto2181]

i totally agree.

[@Sir_Logurt]

@@ferdithetank7535 it's not though but sure. it's strong but its not cedh minus consult

[@thomaswalters597]

As soon as the commanders were announced I knew who was going to win. Also Josh, you made a bad play by not attacking Jesper at the end. You needed to force his removal. Instead you killed a player for him, then he used his removal on you anyways.

[@nex5318]

I like how Jesper just made a deck out of all the cards Jimmy and Josh hate. Gaddock Teeg, Grand Arbiter, and all of the things that make stuff expensive.

[@leemiller6977]

I've got a sweet Grand Arbiter commander deck myself. Ghostly Prison, Rhystic Study, Propaganda, Frozen Aether, Grand Abolisher and Maze of Ith are just some of the craziness I have in my Pillowfort deck.

[@ClexYoshi]

Man, if I were Ashlyn, I would have SO Strip mined that Gaea's Cradle.

[@AdairCorbin]

Yeah between that and Jimmy not using Hostage taker on the thorn it seems like Mr stax was scripted to win.

[@shaydaio2094]

Alex Buettnner if it were scripted they wouldn’t of even put stripmine on the field.

[@casperkristensen1730]

This is probably the right thing to do, but I think Jimmy and josh take into account if the guests are new or been there before. Jesper is a new guest and had travel from Denmark to be on the show. I really don't think it's scripted. They were just been nice

[@AdairCorbin]

@@shaydaio2094 good point, it's less likely to be 100% scripted and more likely to just be a thrown match.

[@shaydaio2094]

Casper Kristensen Yeah they’ve said before they don’t script at all. I.e Nerd girl getting mana screwed or reputable magic players coming on wouldn’t happen. However, they’ve also said that they are on game knights every show and sometimes will hold back. Also to be fair it was hatebears.

[@MGone3]

I like how Jimmy stole Ashlen's sol ring then has the nerve to say they need to get rid of the thorn

[@nicholasbolas]

And that's why Jimmy stayed a Timmy after all this years.

[@DjinnofWinds]

If he stole the thorn, the thorn's effect would still be on the board. So stealing it would have achieved nothing

[@MGone3]

@@DjinnofWinds has long as it was under hostage taker it have been exiled

[@myztik5716]

@@DjinnofWinds Reading the cards explains the cards

[@eric0967]

also having a yuriko deck dont let yuriko have more then 6 mana. damage, extra turn, damage, extra turn, win. is how her deck plays. its win fast and early.

[@Vinyears80s]

Great lesson learned. If someone has a Strip Mine, use it to destroy a Gaea's Craddle.

[@OhNoTheFace]

I mean that is basic stuff. I can only assume they did not want to "pick on" the guest. Which is stupid when it is cradle

[@nicholasbolas]

He was paid in Cradle. LOL

[@willemboele2079]

@@OhNoTheFace or ashlyn forgot she had it or she needed the mana

[@eric0967]

the tempo lost was to much. ashlen was playing extra turns yuriko she wants to win as fast as possible. and needed the mana. which they knew hence jimmy stealing the sol ring. really she just got unlucky on drawing the wrong side of her deck like josh said. josh has probably played against her deck before. she would have won if they didnt focus her down early game. and jesper stax stopped joshs early turns. if josh drew a necropotence he would have started one shotting people.

[@eric0967]

i think jimmy may have been out classed this game. dont know much about his deck.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Everyone let Sisay, Thrasios and Cradle stick around... anyone surprised at the end result?

[@chrispy6953]

Definitely not. As soon as Jimmy hostaged that soul ring I knew what type of game this was.. Strip mine cradle? Among many other plays.

[@MekanikKommandoh88]

Yeah this was kind of painful to watch.

[@buddatello]

It definitely felt like they tried to not be mean cus he was like the new guy in the pod, but my man was straight up playing hate bears you gotta nip their engines in the butt

[@chrispy6953]

@@buddatello I only saw the first half of your reply on my notifications and was like "BUT HATEBEARS" and then I saw the rest after I loaded up 😂 Yeah idk, very mixed emotions on this episode. He painted their playmat, came over from Denmark and they just bent over and spread their cheeks for him on a casual EDH channel. Yikes.

[@chrispy6953]

@@MekanikKommandoh88 extremely. You could hear the "I'm over it" in Ashlyns voice

[@themantyf1116]

I was eager to see Jimmy's Marchesa deck in action, it's a pity it didn't get to do more. She was the only commander that didn't even get to be played.

[@Dannerrrr]

It was built waaaay too heavy. marchesa should be built with less than 3 average CMC to actually see action. Marchesa needs a ETB, sac outlet, and marchesa by turn 4 to really be happy.

[@iambensummers]

I agree with some of the other people here, the threat assessment was way off. Not blowing up Cradle with Thrasios on board? Making deals not to attack the guy with the most value on board? All the decks were pretty powerful, but they let Jesper run away with the game.

[@duesexistat5016]

I’m pretty sure it was the classic, be nice to the guest maneuver.

[@nicholasbolas]

I'm sure Jesper commanded a high price to fly down. That's how he acquired the Cradle LMAO.

[@dustyfox6511]

It's nearly impossible to find a Command Zone game not decided by misplays.

[@khariperkins4243]

I mean he was run stacks like come on man kill this dude.

[@eric0967]

threat assessment was fine. tymna stax was playing a long game. ashlyn's extra turns yuriko deck was the threat. and why jesper and josh focused on her. josh even commented she was drawing the wrong side of her deck. he has played against her deck before. jimmy may have been out classed this game. and the stax were keeping josh from winning early game with his insane start even with the thorn.

[@carlfjnon]

“I might add, the wrong Bitterblossom“ hahah don’t know why that made me laugh more than I was expecting

[@ferdithetank7535]

This reminds me Unhinged card "Persecute Artist", but more polite.

[@crosshroomhead]

Was honestly thinking it as she played it, im glad he called her out lol

[@user-po6kl5sz8r]

It's kinda like this episode had flash. No one excepted it, and it has left us in suprise

[@globinbloobin8573]

I did not realize that Josh had an IRL Vandelken Orrery!!

[@Link_T179]

*Expected

[@chibeees]

Not that that’s a bad thing

[@rowrow_]

No tactic transforms a battle like a well-timed Extra Turn video

[@BloodyScythe666]

surprised pikachu face

[@nicholasstavash7880]

Jimmy, Josh, and Ashlen: we built fun decks around some of our favorite commanders: Jesper: laughs in Tynma and Thrasios

[@Reddgameplus]

Partners is an obvi advantage, but Greven and the ninjitsu commander both go after skulls.

[@tapsin3923]

IMO ashlen has never done a "fun" deck, unless your concept of fun is no interaction spells whatsoever + eldrazi/plain fat creatures. Sure, tymna and thrasios hatebears is awful for many people but she didn't do anything to solve the situation just like in many games.

[@oORoOFLOo]

Ha, yeah, Yuriko is a "fun" deck. Fun deck that can win in 5th turn on casual table. I play Yuriko and each person says "she is op, she just dodges commander tax", I'm sure they wouldnt call it a "fun" a deck.

[@CHEFPKR]

Glad to have extra turns to keep me company while in the editing dungeon

[@BearGamerful]

Yo anime chef

[@dawsonhall7116]

Big fan Chefpk

[@TheHunter128]

Wait you are here too???

[@jonatan-vn1441]

“Surprise to be sure, but a welcome one”

[@whatsupdoc6358]

Two weird things, sol ring being taken and gradle not being destroyed.

[@Fractalmortality]

Maybe Jimmy was hurting for mana at the time? But yeah, there were some much higher value targets than Sol Ring imo. And I'm willing to bet Ashlen straight up forgot her Strip Mine was a Strip Mine and could Strip Mine things.... I've done this in the past.

[@whatsupdoc6358]

@@Fractalmortality I had wondered if maybe jimmy was just being nice and didnt want to take the thorn. One thing ive learned, you dont let stax have their toys haha

[@Amarukseta1]

also why didn't he play the sol ring the turn he played phyrexian arena?

[@donaldsykes12]

@@Amarukseta1 I believe it was because he only had one mana left and the sol ring cost one more because of the thorn. I was confused by that at first too.

[@RandomInternetUser999]

@@whatsupdoc6358 taking the thorn wouldn't have done anything, the effect is universal.

[@B-Ran_the_Man]

Kids, this is why you blow up a Gaea's Cradle as soon as possible. I present exhibit A

[@paulmcclain642]

Don't worry no one can afford it now anyway :(

[@bobby45825]

@@paulmcclain642 Who doesn't proxy Cradle? What absolute fools are paying $800 for 1 piece of cardboard? Jesus.

[@SJamesGill88]

@@bobby45825 Me?I bought a graded one for Rhys/Ghave/Any future green decks.People buy duals all the time and no one bats an eye.

[@duesexistat5016]

Ashlen got targeted hard. She was being cool about it but I was annoyed for her. Next time don’t be afraid to pick on the guest, especially when they’re playing stax. I’m sure Jesper’s deck was prepared to handle hate.

[@drewhoffmaster2969]

Looking at her deck, it's an extra turns deck. Letting her connect and chain extra turns is a good way to end up dead. Josh's deck is also more than capable of killing fast, if not necessarily capable of hitting the entire table. I'm not sure about Jimmy's deck, but looking at Jesper's deck it definitely seems unable to win quickly and instead plays like a reasonable toolbox hatebears deck. Jesper definitely was in for the long haul, so early game he's not really worth targetting. This match needed more boardwipes. Jesper kept the counter up for rift and Meddling Mage'd the Toxic Deluge. One more boardwipe would've screwed his position. Also, strip mining the Cradle, though I think Ashlen really needed the mana to land big spells so *shrug*

[@Njzeo]

It was obvious ashlen was taken aback with how often Jesper was targeting her.

[@NuminorTheFool]

Having a friend who plays Yuriko extra turn. You absolutely shut down the Yuriko first. That said Thasisa should not have been ignored either.

[@rurouni4974]

Ofc you target yuriko first. Yuriko is an aggro commander and if you let her attack often she will do tons of damage to everyone like the turn she did 8 damage to everyone. Their luck was she hasnt drawn another ninjas for more yuriko triggers. Let her live would mean that she could attack again and kill everyone. Because yuriko deals damage to everyone makes you everyone's target.

[@jbs6614]

That’s kind of a given when you’re playing Yuriko.

[@McGuffin5150]

Does anyone else feel like Jesper was kind of ignored for a good chunk of the game? Sisay and Cradle were left alone for far too long in my opinion.

[@nicholasbolas]

@S V One is the guest and the other is your boss. Ofc those were the last 2. And yet they say the game's not scripted lol. Office politics for you.

[@antoniopaolitto2181]

gotta sale those playmats. ;)

[@Keoruan]

@S V And all the removal was pretty much used on Ashlen... Font, Hostage Taker... Hostage taker could have dealt with Sisay or the thorns, Font could have dealt with Glen Elendra or something.

[@Tacklepig]

@S V Josh was dealing massive damage to himself, which is probably why he was ignored

[@Joshbobjovi]

Makes no sense why Jimmy let Jesper untap before casting his cyclonic rift lol

[@BROBI556]

I like the idea of Jesper's deck, but part of me really wish he played his Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper deck where every card art is one that he painted

[@Deathkeeper43]

Woah!!!!!!! Link!!!?

[@BROBI556]

@@Deathkeeper43 I think he talked about it when he was on the podcast. I think he just needed to be commissioned for a basic forest though

[@Pastlebox]

I feel like threat assessment in this game wasn't done very well. As soon as Sisay was left on the board in favor of the Sol Ring, I knew this game wasn't going to go well... ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS: Something we don't see (but we do in real life) is the pre-game discussion between players about which decks they're using and if they're at the right power-level for each other. It's a vital part to help ensure someone doesn't sit in the corner twiddling their thumbs. It's been discussed on the channel in the past but I don't think I've ever seen that pre-talk discussion. It's a challenge in itself and it might add an interesting element. Please note this is not a bash at Jesper, how he played or CEDH or high-tuned decks. He played very well and the deck was beautiful (except for the stax). And, as people have said in the comments, travelling over from certain countries with their favourite decks means limiting which decks you can travel with. As Kyle said a while ago, if everyone is playing CEDH decks, then there's no confusion about the power level. I'm very guilty of seeing certain commanders and going "Ach! Hans, Run!" and spending bit too much time focusing on it. While Yuriko is (for good reason) scary, I've seen more top tier CEDH decks built with Thrasios & Tymna than I've seen casually built ones. Seeing only a few further cards (like the Stax and Sisay) should have been clear indicators that they needed to focus their efforts.

[@tzarl]

Yeah I was surprised that the other players were tripping over each other in the mid game to make deals with Jesper to just buy a turn when they should have known his deck was well on track to lock them out soon anyways. If they had instead tried to team up to force out all the interaction he was holding up they could have stood a better chance. Still a neat game with lots of interaction and some explosive plays!

[@xardas149]

And then literally messing up the order to NOT play sol ring and just waste mana...Jummy played god awful

[@moritzhoff6412]

Tbh jespers deck is fine and far off cedh. It sure generates a lot of value but all lot of that could have been stopped. Winning the game by beating your opponents with 2/2 seems quite fair to me.

[@Pastlebox]

​@@moritzhoff6412 Most of the cards he ran were those you'd see in a hate-bear comp build. I've seen CEDH decks win without combos. Stax is an archetype for a reason, although I've seen more oppressive decks. As you say it's the value. All of those 2/2s generated really good value. That's how the deck works. I've seen games won on 1/1s with Edric - it doesn't matter the size of the creature but how you use them. Or what you give them. Or how you control the board.

[@viperion_nz]

Jesper's deck isn't CEDH but it's not "far off cedh" either. It was certainly the highest power deck at that table, and it wasn't close.

[@pugsrkewl]

It’s crazy how it was obvious Jesper was in the lead but no one really did anything about it. Half way in you can tell what’s going to happen

[@FreddieFevens]

As soon as I heard T&T Stax, I knew it was over.

[@freyalesca]

@@FreddieFevens as soon as i see tymna and thrasios and he plays a thorn off the bat they should have been focusing him tbh

[@alexbiersner3350]

After watching all of these commander videos, I have finally made the plunge and in the process of making my first commander deck. I even shopped at Card Kingdom for the needed cards. Its my way of saying thank you to Command Zone for all of the amazing content. Keep up the good work guys

[@mkol1998]

This man makes the art of my favorite sleeves. Thank you for making the art that you make Jesper!

[@FreddieFevens]

So Jesper is playing Thrasios Tymna Stacks? I haven't seen the episode yet, but I predict a long drawn out victory for him.

[@92bagder]

wouldtnt be surprised if the tier 1 competitive deck wins

[@xenu9420]

Isn’t kind of funny that people were more mad at Amoz for “Playing Mean” and no one seems mad at Jesper. Edit: I just want to say that I don’t think that anyone should be mad at Jesper. I think that my comment kind of gave off that vibe and it wasn’t intended.

[@OhNoTheFace]

@@xenu9420 Amoz goldfished for like 3 turns, that is why people did not like him

[@NeberusBeta]

yes they needed to kill him 1º ASAP

[@xardas149]

@@xenu9420 You cannot be mad at dutch people with the way they speak english xD Amaz doesnt have that bonus

[@DaveofCanada]

This honestly feels like threat assessment didn't exist when it comes to the guest, especially considering how T&T Hatebears is such a vastly different tier over everyone else's jank. Jimmy literally couldn't do anything, Ashlen got a few triggers but wasn't allowed to do much and Josh was semi-threatening but kept focusing on both Jimmy and Ashlen. This seems like what you'd see from a pubstomp complaint thread.

[@Fractalmortality]

ehhhh I wouldn't call the other decks "Jank." Josh ramped out hard and was a threat very early. Greven punches hard and fast. Yuriko can do the same. Marchesa can have scary synergies, but Jimmy never got off the ground. You're right though, they didn't do nearly enough to stop Jesper from clamping down on the board. He deserved a fair share of focus that he rarely got.

[@Farycane]

Agreed. Not blowing up the Cradle was way too friendly. And punching each other while Jesper build his staxy board seems like very bad gameplay. Was unpleasant to watch.

[@HOCScott]

@@Farycane I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought this. I actually didn't enjoy this episode as much as all of their other ones. It seemed like they were afraid to play to win and instead just let the artist take away the game.

[@ProphecyPhrase]

@@Farycane I agree.

[@ProphecyPhrase]

@@HOCScott I didn't like this episode either but that's from someone playing stax and the other players didn't team up to pick apart at his board and instead aimed at each other.

[@MrJC1122]

Jimmy should've cast cyclonic rift when Jesper was tapped out...

[@Krisaber]

exactly! at that point of time jasper would need the big 4 free counters to survive that

[@JigsawJoe13]

He was never gonna be tapped out...

[@Krisaber]

@@JigsawJoe13 35:30 respond to thrasio activation and rift?

[@geoffreymullen3527]

He had just enough mana to OL rift, if he let grand arbiter resolve first he couldn't have afforded to cast it because of the cost increase.

[@paulcrisafi4415]

Krisaber he had mana for Arcane Denial, so it wouldn’t have mattered. Good catch, tho.

[@nicholasrolo886]

"I just hit you with tymna equipped with sword of feast and Famine. Sorry" This guy 😆

[@fjsfi3jr983]

Jesper breaks the first deal of the game the first chance he gets, Jesper gets 100% of all other deal offers for the rest of the game. Alright. Also, STRIP THE CRADLE. Like what other reason is there to even have a strip mine? God to make this comment I paused the video and it just happens to be on a shot of cradle on the table, strip mine tapped for mana, and strip mine owner has a basic swamp untapped. How many times did this happen I wonder.

[@Hitzel]

to be fair i think he was asking Josh if he could draw a card and it was just communicated poorly

[@ManaByJake]

JLK didn't agree to the last deal, he said I'd kill you if I could. Josh went straight for the blood feud. Lol

[@luhlttv]

at 20 minutes exactly, ashlen says she wont remove it if jesper doesnt attack her, i assume she was talking about the cradle.

[@thebear0333]

@@luhlttv I think she said that in reference to the lotus cobra

[@thetogtube2]

"you got this Josh... nice josh... you got this dude... you're fine " - Jimmy (while Josh drowns)

[@OhNoTheFace]

I dunno if you guys were avoiding picking on the special guest too much, but I am surprised that hostage taker did not take thron and that strip mine did not IMMEDIATELY destroy cradle. Especially that second thing. Picking on him? Sure. But he is playing a T&T stax deck, one should plan to be unpopular lol

[@bobby45825]

It's always odd when D&T players expect to get left alone. It's like how a buddy of mine was acting defensive when he built a rakdos turbo-punishment deck that basically fucked you up for everything you played but didn't put down a lot of blockers and, once we'd start ganging up on him, he'd be like "why are you guys ganging up on me!". Nobody wants to get taxed out of the game and getting universal tax effects out should ALWAYS warrant strong discussions and temporary alliances at the table.

[@40Found]

I saw Jesper playing T&T and thought "huh. Maybe he's found a fun direction for these commanders" and he played GAAIV with Golgari

[@TheSimmus]

To be fair he played very quick and never annoyed anyone with talk. Best way to play Stax is to do it fast.

[@40Found]

@@TheSimmus I don't mean to imply it was a no fun deck or game, I just got mental whiplash when I tried to square the ideas of one of my favorite artists playing stax

[@TheSimmus]

@@40Found we All have a dark side, he is brave enough to show it

[@Asiis]

@@40Found Stax is a no fun deck and it made the game worse.

[@xardas149]

@@40Found Well he might jus took his "rl" deck to the table and when your playgroup plays high powered...^^

[@Sir_Logurt]

Jesper having his lands in different directions is probably intentional as a way to upset people more haha

[@chortlesinthecorner]

Jesper seems so nice... The kind of guy to invite you over for a nice meal, and then he offers to show you something in his basement and you never return lol

[@pug8714]

Bold to think you could leave

[@jeffnosdivad3080]

Tymna and Thrasios, I literally felt all of your eyes roll hard af

[@Alibanini]

Ikr lol no hate but the deck is everywhere and its so boring to watch :/

[@jeffnosdivad3080]

@@Alibanini I get that it appeals to some, just far too sweaty for my taste.

[@connorhanson253]

im so so so happy to see someone playing Greven as their commander, i thought i was the only one who saw his crazy strength!

[@ceulgai2817]

If you go back to C19 spoiler season, they gush over his power.

[@JigsawJoe13]

Greven if built correctly is a very strong deck.

[@connorhanson253]

@@JigsawJoe13 it's interesting to see that his power buff does not transfer over to the next turn, seems like because it does not say "..until the end of the turn" it would carry over.

[@peanutbutternjlee5172]

I was suppose to study, it’s 2am, but ANYTHING FOR EXTRA TURNS

[@olafbengtsson4410]

same here

[@Kattywagon29]

I was supposedtoo be grading papers, but...

[@ThatDrummaDave]

Me: Sees Jimmy talk about his Marchesa deck in his tier list video "Ooh, I'll go watch that episode and see how it runs" Jesper: "No you won't"

[@jasonandrews1770]

Glad to hear we will be getting more extra turns. Its a nice switch up from game knights. Feels more genuine

[@Bammab127]

Jesper's upside-down lands irks me

[@nicholasbolas]

It's called showing off. He's an artist after all LMAO

[@Joshbobjovi]

I made the mistake of bringing it up to my cousin once and now he always plays with one land upside down. Best to just ignore it lol

[@jaakkovuori9616]

"Tymna and Thrasios" Ah. Glad to hear that everyone's playing casual and janky decks.

[@d.w.7203]

most boring commanders ever.

[@lukasloetscher1037]

i think both of them are fine as commanders on their own. they just should not have the partner keyword...

[@isaiahneski6009]

Lol haha yeah I already knew the top tier deck was going to win.

[@pro711200]

@@d.w.7203 so basically what your saying is that the less open ended the commander is the more interesting it is? I don't think there are as open ended commanders as tymna thrasios.

[@d.w.7203]

@@pro711200 you know damn well what people do with this "openess". 4 color goodstuff is as boring as it gets.

[@jeanlanglois1033]

Finally Your Marchesa deck you teased us back in 3 years

[@jeanlanglois1033]

Dang it ! It didn't went as expected ! Please play it again !!!! Thanks for the show

[@romji187]

Taking a Sol Ring with the Hostage Taker? While there is a Sisay, Greven, Tymna, Mana Crypt and a Thorn outside? Really...? And Zealous Conscripts takes Yuriko? Which Ashlyn is able to play again? While there is a Sword of Feast and Famine?

[@lionbartlegends]

But doesnt the sword of feast and famine just untap jesper's lands, cause the equipment doesnt exchange control

[@cameronbyers7335]

@@lionbartlegends Ik this is late but... Conscripts takes control of target permanent, meaning the sword would be Josh's and it would untap his lands and not Jesper's

[@cameronp6176]

@@cameronbyers7335 Only if he stole the sword, and not the creature attached to it. He would have then needed to pay the mana to re-equip it

[@cameronbyers7335]

@@cameronp6176 I thought he stole only the sword... but thanks for the revision

[@cameronbyers7335]

@@cameronp6176 oh my bad I forgot what he stole... nvm lol

[@Organicflava]

Just had to throw this in here late, but Jesper really won me over back in Lorwyn with his art and has been probably my favorite fantasy artist ever since. I don't have the funds to back the kickstarter as of now but I want to let you know that I LOVE you Jesper, and I'm happy you got to be a spotlight here. Keep making insane art buddy!

[@Pltnmangel]

Can’t wait to watch! Super happy to see gameplay more often.

[@djethanol256]

I felt for ashlynn when she played bitterblossem and Jesper was like hey that's the wrong art. I can only imagine that was a very awkward moment irl

[@drpibisback7680]

Hey, when it's a battle between you and Rebecca Guay, sometimes you have to admit defeat.

[@derekgraskewicz2104]

@DJ Ethanol That’s when you get spiteful. Tell him you like this art better…

[@justcallmejasper7527]

Jimmy at last Playing the marchesa deck we've heard about since epsidoe one of the podcast

[@dbroccoliman]

"Playing" was unfortunately generous. We didn't get to see much of it :(

[@matheusrian7521]

He already played it at another extra turns. The episode with Mitch

[@thiagoanbonfim]

@@matheusrian7521 in that game Jimmy used Breya, tho

[@matheusrian7521]

@@thiagoanbonfim Oh damn, you're right!

[@paulmcclain642]

I was excited too--Marchesa is one of my main decks. I actually don't like his build much though. With Marchesa you need to slam her as early as possible and then make multiple threats stick (I like to play her out with a free counterspell in hand to protect her i.e. Fierce Guardianship). Haste and a sac outlet are key too to unlock Dethrone. All that topping and scroll racking is a waste of time and mana I took all that junk out and added fast ramp and low CMC bangers.

[@junpingqiu897]

The Tymna and Thrasios deck is not a cedh deck, but high level casual deck. If it is a cedh deck you will see: 1. the 4 most expensive counterspells (Force of Will, Mana Drain, Fierce Guardianship, Force of Negation) protecting the combo pieces 2. Lots of tutors 3. infinite mana combo to draw entire deck with Thrasios and cast Thassa's Oracle for the win 4. Demonic Consultation and Thassa's Oracle for the win 5. Game over by turn 4 or 5. Nevertheless stax pieces are also played in CEDH table (usually to stop or slow down the combo player), but are usually played in Derevi or Commanders in Azorius colours.

[@Tacklepig]

That's not quite true, depending on the meta winning by combat is quite possible even in cEDH. Hatebear stax is quite playable and can easily win through beatdown, and combos often would be disadvantageous for this type of deck. Also, a stax list will take the game way longer than turn 5, even in cEDH. The list he played here could easily hold its own on cEDH tables. I'm playing a similar hatebear stax deck (though I'd admit mine is high powered casual, I do have a few suboptimal choices) and I've won competitive games with that, too. Remember there's no actual distinction between cEDH and actual commander. cEDH is just playing competitively. If your "casual" deck is good enough to win tournaments, there's no reason to not consider it competitive.

[@eric0967]

extra turns is my favorite show you guys have. I love that you guys play your own decks. and the higher power level. having a yuriko deck and meren stax. this was a fun game to watch.

[@TheSnarkyBrit]

The first episode I ever watched of this was with Mitch and his budget deck, and that was by far my favorite. Seeing just one budget deck in these games makes them more entertaining to watch for me (not that they aren't in the first place). Cheers.

[@elan8213]

Really glad to see a Marchesa, the Black Rose deck being played - as I’m sure most other Marchesa pilots are! 👊🏻

[@Siegorius]

There are dozens of us! Dozens I tell you!

[@DeknasAnimated]

Going to see him play it more. Marchesa didn't even hit the board. Sad days. Edit Going=Hoping

[@elan8213]

@@DeknasAnimated Yeah - kind of sad about that. It feels a little bit like the gap in power level between the other three decks and Jesper's was a bit too high, he barely broke a sweat the entire match.

[@thesquirrelwranglers5076]

I’m not, I play that deck. Everyone plays it wrong, Jimmy didn’t cast his commander once. Bad show.

[@ZypherWildfire]

Jimmy, at your end-step when Jesper tapped out, why didn't you Cyclonic Rift then? 36:10

[@peterlewandowski9912]

When I see a new Command Zone video drop on my notifications, I know I get to chill later after work with a great new video! Thanks JLK and Jimmy, and the whole staff! Love what you all do!

[@mikotagayuna8494]

An MtG artist playing MtG and having a great time is one of the greatest endorsements WotC can have.

[@Keoruan]

I feel like I just watched a Mario Kart race where 3 people had blue shells and refused to throw them... Hostage Taker, Font of Agonies, Strip Mine. Of these 3 removal options off the top of my head after watching this game, 2 of them were used on Ashlen who at no point in this game was in a dominant board position. The other was Ashlen's card and just not used. I get it, she wins quite a bit, but I feel like there was some EXTREME misreads on the threat assessment this game. And I mean, Ashlen, Jesper spent legit half the game smacking you in the face :(. Strip mine him. Between Jesper getting away with just beating on Ashlen all game and Josh backing down when Jesper threatened him, like... even politically, this game felt off.

[@bryangiron5354]

Maybe because he traveled far to be there in person they didn’t try ganging up on him and when they realized all the shenanigans he was already too far ahead

[@joshkirkfield]

Ashlen would have become a bigger threat if they left her alone, and Jesper probably would have won anyway. What matters is that they had a cool guest and had fun.

[@SenorCoupon]

@@joshkirkfield Honestly, no, that's not what matters. All of that is pointless if the integrity of the game is suspect. If the video title was "People have fun with cool guest in poorly played, potentially fixed game", then yes, that would be what matters. But there is at least an implication of fair play in this series, and it violates the trust of the viewer if it is suspected that the game was thrown. Not stripping the Cradle is absolutely inexcusable, especially against the player who controlled the game and had the best deck.

[@Venjamin]

@Solo Slime They are playing for money. Or did you miss the ads? Lol.

[@dasdrifter12]

@@SenorCoupon the Yuriko deck was actually the strongest deck at the table for sure. She just got unlucky draws.

[@GoatOfThunder]

Everyone: Comes to play Magic Jesper: Does his best to not let them play

[@ODIRGO]

I don't care if he was a guest, the moment he counciously decided to play T&T with stax, he deserved to be the archenemy the entire game.

[@Runboy_123]

I could feel the heat from Josh in response to Jesper's deck and playstyle. There were some basic rules that were broken by Jesper in this game: 1) Keep your word when you make a truce. 2) If you make a bad play, no take backs, unless everyone agrees, 3) Play a deck that fits the power level and tone of your play group.

[@matthewsmith1275]

Yeah, I felt the heat from Josh as well. Hate bears and general trickery will cause that, but I think he handled it rather well. After that betrayal he should have gave Jesper no quarter and pressured him to use his answers or die to Commander damage. I will say that Jesper did very well in controlling the table with his words and honestly he didn't have to use many of his answers because everyone else was so willing to use theirs.

[@Habeev07]

YES MORE COMMANDER PLAY. So happy they are making gms more often. THIS IS GREAT!!

[@mayonice3577]

Love how Jesper continuously turns his lands upside down

[@danmorgan7775]

I guess since he came all the way from Europe and did nice art for them they figured they should let him play one of the most salt-inducing decks ever. I'm surprised it was even as close as it was.

[@sean21209]

Jesper and Josh: Jimmy and Ashlen: SCROLL RACK!

[@cosmotect]

Oh my god just how am I going to live without that playmat!!!! Jesus life is sooo hard

[@gamebreaker60]

Josh and Jimmy, you are the only thing that makes me smile besides my family lol thank you.

[@beltfedweapon9967]

This may be the most frustrating game of commander I've ever seen them play. I still feel like this is not scripted, but they were waaaay too deferential to their guest. I call conflict of interest with the playmat art deal they have; but if I were Jesper I wouldn't want them to pull punches, especially when he rolls in with a griefy-style, 'you can't have fun' deck. You can tell its Jesper's 'go to' deck as he pilots its many interactions fast and anticipates having Gaddock Teague out later, so he names Toxic Delgue with his Meddling Mage; He knows that in serious Black decks, (and all three opponents were in that color) one of the few popular answers that would have dismantled his board would have been Toxic Deluge. He had to figure all 3 tuned decks had it. To everyone's credit, they all lived up to the billing and brought serious, tuned decks - even though Jimmy never really got off the ground. No 'Bear Force One' BS here sneaking in from behind for the win. Key takeaways: 0) Danger Will Robinson - its T&T... and hate bears? Sounds like a kick in the junk - be very wary. 1) STRIP MINE THAT CRADLE! I knew it was probably all over when the Sword of F&F came out and the Strip Mine was tapped. 2) I can't believe Captain Sissay lasted as long as she did! 3) Jesper goes back on his word, or at least tries to rules-lawyerly parse it. CAN'T BE TRUSTED. Lessons should be taught. In the interests of keeping him in check, Josh still should have gone through with his threat and jammed him - both a moral lesson and to set him back as he was just as scary as everyone else at this point. 4) Ashlyn was scary at times, but was still the punching bag the whole game. Her stuff kept getting stolen or 'revoked' in the early game. Josh did not get rid of the Phyrexian Revoker so much as Jesper decided to block with it, so he shouldn't be taking credit for some kind of perverse good will with Ashlyn. Some had a 'paymaster' comment in here about Ashlyn being a good employee and taking one for the team (and her paycheck). Priceless. 5) THEN, a few turns later Josh talks about trying to take Jesper out as he's clearly the threat...but he then attacks Ashlyn?!? Reference my 'punching bag' critique from the prior point. Josh is too good a player to not force his CLEARLY dominant opponent to use their resources in an archenemy situation. He does Jesper a favor as he should have known the other two weren't going to go after him. Ashlyn is now gone, Jimmy already constrained for mana is even moreso, and Jesper is fee to continue to develp Aside from the Strip Mine sin, this is the biggest mistake of the game and isn't even a judgment call like keeping the one mana around being generated from the Strip Mine would be. This is clearly the wrong play. 6) Jimmy should have blocked the Glen Elendra Archmage (one less counterspell), why wouldn't you? It was clearly a mistake on Jesper part. Its not in Jimmy's long-term advantage for him to counter other people's stuff when he is already ahead and 'hoping' he doesn't counter your stuff with no deal is a mistake. Bad call. Not so much on the actual play itself, but because of his analysis - that was the mistake.

[@beltfedweapon9967]

Oh, and Jesper's weird land tapping habits may be strategic, it throws a surprising amount of people off in game. I used to metagame this one guy at my old LGS with as many white-bordered version of cards as possible because he played straight unfun Blue decks. Combine 4th edition swamps in my mono-Black deck with some of them being upside down and not in neat rows, and he had a harder time focusing on doing the stupid Blue things that he wanted to do. Instead he was sweating how my lands looked and he'd ask me at least once a game to straighten up my lands and I was like 'I'm good dude...no you don't need to do it for me... no, please don't touch my cards..." He'd almost always take the bait and counter my good card so that I could follow up with the really excellent one which was the one I actually wanted to play.

[@sinandsunweandoursze_eelan6646]

You are good!

[@rxlu]

If Josh attacked Jesper Then Greven would die, and if Jimmy Blocked the Glen Elendra the Sower would die an it would return the Greven and though he could sacrifice it, it would of been better if Josh used the counters on his Font of Agony

[@koreyg8552]

You actually know how to play good magic lol. This is why I don’t play casual in edh. I only play CEDH, to avoid this nonsense and bad threat assessment as well as politics. There was too many misplays. If this was cedh. Jesper would have been taken out because he was the IMMEDIATE threat the ENTIRE game. Their choices were atrocious this game

[@playmaker448]

@@koreyg8552 this is why I stopped watching game knights long ago. Cedh is the way to go

[@firesidedude8352]

Me: yuriko always gets low cmc spells it’s almost like a rule. Gets a 8 cmc spell: Me: wait that illegal

[@erniespratt1660]

Jesper Ejsing! One of my favorite MtG artists. Alrighty then, I'm in.

[@onewingedguy]

Jesper is brutal, but hilarious. Also loved the Yuriko representation, my absolute favorite commander. So glad they added more support for ninjas in recent sets.

[@mattjohnson4506]

Favorite line from the game is when Jesper adds the avacyn’s pilgrim and says the last bit of lethal damage comes from the elf! 😂

[@katscratch_newt]

Jimmy really saving that Sol Ring for a rainy day.. Could've played it on his very next turn "for free" (costs 2, generates 2). He also lets it slip the turn after that. Also, Jesper giving his lands the carousel treatment is great to watch!

[@jacobshaffer7831]

i kept looking at his lands like "something is wrong here. idk what it is. but something is wrong" XD

[@MJkakashi]

So everybody targets Ashlen, and just let the Thrasios player do as he pleases? wtf? This episode makes me so angry. ALWAYS get rid of Tymna/Thrasios and ALWAYS stripmine a Cradle.

[@cbhaines13]

Gotta make the guests happy I suppose.

[@nicholasbolas]

Ash was the 2nd highest paid person for the show. That's why they needed 4 sponsors. She was the fall girl. LOL

[@Reddgameplus]

Josh on queue with the immediate politics.

[@duesexistat5016]

She got targeted hard. I could tell she was getting annoyed even though she was trying to be cool, and I don’t blame her. I feel like she was a scapegoat when everyone else was afraid to pick on the guest.

[@Zenith8924]

Honestly though this is exactly how I felt through the episode. Ashlen got targeted hard! Sure her commander isn't one to scoff at, but Thrasios/Tymna is wayyy worse! I usually like all the episodes, but this one really bugged me. It's like they just let the guest run rampant and hardly tried to control his board. It could be argued that for video purposes they didn't want to just destroy all of his things, but he obviously didnt share an equal mindset when it came to playing a high tier cEDH deck. It definitely shows the difference between a cEDH player and more causal players in comparison.

[@carloskarner7352]

why did Jmmy not overload the cyclonic Rift in response to the Thrasios activation at the end of his turn???

[@slashrootslash]

1) Jesper is awesome, 2) once again another great ad spot. Keep up the great work gents!

[@Pupalah]

Ive had a really bad day, and this is just what i needed. Thanks josh, and jimmy.

[@nolifeSnorlax]

Is this real life? More extra turns? F YEAH!

[@samverick]

Jesper brought a shotgun to a slapfight. That deck was not playing around.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

LOL that T1:P

[@MrFlayer4]

It wasn't that much of a slapfight to be fair. Yuriko is fast and consistentent. Graven can, and was, very scary. Thing is that two decks bricked with ashlin who probably kept a really bad hand skipped two first turns and jimmy was unable to do his thing. If we've were able to see like three games it would be pretty balanced.

[@jewski6852]

Imagine being the only person to play a cedh deck at a table

[@jb87rell]

Omg that's not a cEDH deck ugh.

[@robertbauerle5592]

Jesper was playing some "annoying" cards and also some very powerful cards, but this was far from a cEDH deck. He was basically breaking a bit of rule 0 lol.

[@AJANI97]

Just yesterday I rewatched a couple of episodes in anticipation of the next one and boom the next day we’re surprised and blessed yet again with awesome content😍 thank for sweetening my monday night and greetings from Germany❤️

[@craig1287]

There better be another video of Jimmy's Marchesa deck. I've been wanting to make a deck with her for a while now and I was excited to see it in the video, but she never even got cast. If only she had gotten out, she protects herself.

[@puffin-onehandedgamer1164]

hahaha! "you played the wrong bitter blossom, I guess I attack you first"

[@DAsrada]

I see a Thrasios / Tymna deck, I root against it.

[@fajenthygia5760]

Hostage Taker gets Sol Ring instead of Sisay? Even if you don't cast it, you can't let people untap with Sisay.

[@mavo_6482]

I love the way they do their little sponsor skits. Because they still get the point across but still entertain

[@crackerjack78100]

I absolutely love extra turns. Thank you so much for doing this type of video!!

[@ghostanbu1099]

Isn't Jesper's deck called a stax deck?? I thought everyone hated those.

[@DireWilk]

They're awful to play against but also they are natural response to combo decks.

[@ProphecyPhrase]

Yep.

[@gorzakMtG]

just depends on the meta you play in. if it's super casual then sure "everyone hates those"

[@obfn9456]

It depends on your playgroup. The command zone decks are very optimized, so I assume they're fine with it. Jesper's deck was a lot of fun to watch.

[@xenu9420]

Definitely. They aren’t even fun to play in a casual meta. I had played against a Grand Arbiter deck at an FNM once and at the end the person playing it apologized after the game. I saw him the next week and he had taken apart.

[@SilHbs]

So I wait YEARS to see a Marchesa stealing themed playing, then I receive this. A match against Tymna/Thrasios --'

[@Deeplight32]

As a Marchessa main, I was so excited to see Jimmy’s Marchessa. This game just broke my heart.

[@SilHbs]

It's just... Frustrating. Tymna/Thrasios is NOT a fun deck.

[@smittynumber1812]

Can't wait for the Roundtable episode about this one

[@xenu9420]

I wonder how they’re going to spin the intentional misplays.

[@jacobschiller4486]

They never make Roundtables for Extra Turns videos, only Game Knights episodes.

[@shrekdaddy1436]

24:25 Does Jesper know if Jimmy used demonic tutor to get Toxic Deluge? Did jimmy tutor for Toxic Deluge? please answer this in the round table video.

[@ewanhiddleston6642]

Toxic is one of the few wraths that get round Gaddock Teeg. It makes sense to try and prevent it

[@shrekdaddy1436]

@@ewanhiddleston6642 yeah but there are others is jesper just that smart? To say toxic deluge

[@ewanhiddleston6642]

@@shrekdaddy1436 The others just aren't as likely to be played. There's the rakdos 'kill all but one guy at random' one, O-Stone which needs 5 mana on top to be activated and... one other one I think? It's not a big list

[@onava15]

As someone who started watching Game Knights in summer 2021, it fills my heart with equal parts glee and dread to see how unchanged Josh is as he crits himself for “THE VALUE!” 😂

[@sleepysnorlax9384]

Jesper was really funny throughout this game, would love to see him more often if possible!

[@kingfuzzy2]

Me too thanks he's so wholesome and genuine.

[@daniescc9622]

Josh should have forced Jesper’s hand, so they could gang up on him and get a chance at killing him, pulling through so many stax was gonna be really complicated but a 3v1 situation could have turn the result of the game

[@IndominusLux]

"Jesper is playing Thrasios and Tymna" Oh so hes just gonna win.

[@apjapki]

Incredible. Did not expect an extra video!

[@AnonAstarri]

Anybody else obsessed with Jespers voice. Its so soothing and majestic