PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL 4K UHD BLU-RAY REVIEW | THE WORST 4K DISC EVER?

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Jeff Rauseo

Jeff Rauseo

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Today we are reviewing the new 4K UHD Blu-ray release of Disney’s Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. And let me tell you, this was a disaster…
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@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo 2 жыл бұрын
Buy not buying Disney discs, the goal is actually that we do want them to stop making them. Let’s have them stop, and let someone with half a clue (Kino, Shout, Arrow) license the movies out and release them on their own.
@mikeamizzle
@mikeamizzle 2 жыл бұрын
Like any of these companies could afford what Disney would ask for that license.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeamizzle Disney could make $0 and not do physical media, or license them for a reasonable dollar and make money. Simple decision there. Plus they’ve licensed before to Kino via Touchstone.
@mikeamizzle
@mikeamizzle 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffRauseo They've licensed some obscure, arguably unmarketable stuff though to be fair. Not saying I wouldn't love to see what Kino/Shout/Arrow would do with some of their heavy hitters though. That would kick ass; I just don't see it happening.
@DaleFrewaldt
@DaleFrewaldt 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeamizzle It's the same reason Disney killed Disney Interactive. They could have easily continue developing interactive software in house, and it would have been easy for them to do so. But the overhead and costs associated with the development arm were more than they could continue to justify, so they closed shop and began licensing their IP to games publishers. I'm sure as the physical media realm mellows and Disney+ continues to take on it's own market share of the streaming pie, they'll look to cut costs in distribution elsewhere in their film library. One simple place would be to license their films to distributors, rather than take on the costs of distributing on their own.
@vincentyu1947
@vincentyu1947 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffRauseo Kundun is an example.
@VinnyMIlo
@VinnyMIlo 2 жыл бұрын
Internet: “You are by far the worst company for physical 4k transfers I’ve ever heard of.” Disney: “Ah, but you have heard of me.”
@killer92173
@killer92173 2 жыл бұрын
Dammit, you beat me to it!! Lol
@Geblawi
@Geblawi 2 жыл бұрын
See what you did there. 😉
@wallingtoncruceta4458
@wallingtoncruceta4458 2 жыл бұрын
I hope disney gets what they deserve: a short drop and a sudden stop
@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork
@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
Their animated 4Ks have been nothing but stellar though, so I can't say they are the worst at all.
@jerryfleming3620
@jerryfleming3620 2 жыл бұрын
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork I've come to the conclusion to not buy any more animated on 4K. They already look incredible on Blu-Ray and don't see a need to upgrade. I bought a couple early on and felt I wasted my money.
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel Disney just do stuff like this to push people to watch it on Disney plus
@rileykgardner
@rileykgardner 2 жыл бұрын
But the Disney+ version is not any better in this case.
@thebest12700
@thebest12700 2 жыл бұрын
@@rileykgardner they dont care about quality. they just want the $$$$.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but quality wise Disney plus (other than the IMAX Marvel movies) sucks as well.
@rudyxalvax775
@rudyxalvax775 2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffRauseo ok I get it! both versions of Pirates (Disney plus and 4k blu Ray) are crap, but do they look equal? Or is it any better on plus?
@mikeamizzle
@mikeamizzle 2 жыл бұрын
is the 4K stream of this on Disney+ the same remaster as this supposedly shitty 4K UHD? Disney+ stream quality overall is actually pretty good for the price compared to Netflix. National Treasure 4K for instance.
@behanthescene
@behanthescene 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who believes if we stop buying Disney discs, instead of listening they'll just get rid of their physical media altogether? I just feel like that's something they'd do.
@Jramirezi97
@Jramirezi97 2 жыл бұрын
They’re trying to push people to Disney plus by weening them off of Blu-ray’s. If they stopped all physical sales today people would not make the jump to Disney plus. This way they ease you into it
@chrisholmes4037
@chrisholmes4037 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Therein lies the problem unfortunately.
@sauceboss3808
@sauceboss3808 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Disney will say “pHySiCaL MeDiA iS dEAD”
@street1008
@street1008 2 жыл бұрын
well It is a shocker that they recently did announce Chip N Dale the series getting a blu-ray release, but I totally agree in that while I don't want to reward them being lazy with these releases I also don't want the impression that physical media is dead.
@pizzatime2001
@pizzatime2001 2 жыл бұрын
That's probably what they want. To sabotage the 4K format so that people will say "Wow, 4K sucks! I'll just use Disney+".
@jonathannoble9465
@jonathannoble9465 2 жыл бұрын
Disney used to be LEGENDARY for physical media. All they way back to the VHS days. They used to take SO much love and care in their products. I don’t know who is in charge of home video at Disney but they absolutely need to go
@Stiggy771
@Stiggy771 2 жыл бұрын
Money $
@melissalayson7275
@melissalayson7275 2 жыл бұрын
It's seems to me that the Disney signature blu-rays were the last part of physical media that Disney put actual effort in. But now i agree with you Johnthan, Disney seems to be pushing people only towards Disney +.
@jonathannoble9465
@jonathannoble9465 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stiggy771 what about it?
@jonathannoble9465
@jonathannoble9465 2 жыл бұрын
@@melissalayson7275 while I agree that blu-ray (especially the 3D) combo packs were probably the best it ever got in terms of value added and quality, the DVDs and VHS were really top of the pile out of any distributor in terms of quality. They built a HUGE loyal consumer base with The Disney Store and Disney Rewards. I think most physical media enthusiasts have multiple streaming services like Disney+ anyway. I don’t buy your assumption that the reason they’re making a substandard product is to drive people to want to support Disney plus. If anything it might make a lot of people cancel their sub
@melissalayson7275
@melissalayson7275 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathannoble9465 Your right and I only use my Disney + subscription for shows I can't get on physical media like The Mandalorian, Hawkeye, Marval What if, and Wanda Vision. And I'm a big physical media collector too.
@brendanlittle2498
@brendanlittle2498 2 жыл бұрын
I guess this will be $9.99 on Best Buy in no time but the feedback Disney will take from it is that “nobody wants physical media” when in fact nobody wants *bad* physical media
@albertoquinones1173
@albertoquinones1173 9 ай бұрын
Boy you weren't kidding. It's already at 12.99 at my best buy 😂😂😂
@freqgaming
@freqgaming 2 жыл бұрын
The link to the Blu-ray release instead of the 4k is such a boss move. Really hoping for Disney to get their act right
@kevinrobertbrown2351
@kevinrobertbrown2351 2 жыл бұрын
Disney should be brought to account, with reference to their 4k bluray releases, its just not good enough bringing such an inferior product to the market..this movie should have looked stunning on 4k disc, with all the stunning visuals on offer. A massive dissapointment for us 4k UHD collectors..appreciate the review.
@nicholassutcliffe7173
@nicholassutcliffe7173 2 жыл бұрын
Agree Kevin, they should but they won't care. This disc will sell plenty of copies sadly. And there'll be people who won't be upset with the transfer, I've seen people rate the T2 disc which just baffles me
@Ashar121
@Ashar121 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that it's two INCREDIBLE movies like Terminator 2 and now Pirates of the Caribbean CotBP that are the worst ever 4k movies released (so far) is really saddening since I would have bought both of these in a heartbeat because they are both movies that I love.
@mistermoo7602
@mistermoo7602 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think this is why I will still mostly collect blu rays. We've gotten to the point where 4K is near filmic clarity but there's enough saturation in industries where more mistakes are made.
@vb8428
@vb8428 2 жыл бұрын
Shows those big filmmakers don't have much say or just don't care
@kieriencrabtree
@kieriencrabtree 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they don't ruin Dead Man's Chest and At World's End because that would be really sad.
@SB0780
@SB0780 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame Disney got rid of the Fox restoration team, 'Speed', 'Alien' and 'Home Alone' looked amazing in 4K.
@DelcoAirsoft
@DelcoAirsoft 2 жыл бұрын
Speed is literally incredible in 4K. One of the clearest 4K discs.
@notmytruthTHEtruth
@notmytruthTHEtruth 2 жыл бұрын
Speed, Alien, Home Alone, Independence Day, Die Hard and Predator were all great transfers. Disney is just a headache since the first Pirates is the only movie of theirs I really like.
@jjtomasella
@jjtomasella 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am worried about aliens...
@scotttild
@scotttild 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jjtomasella Camron has final say on his movies so it will be his fault.
@WH250398
@WH250398 10 күн бұрын
​@@jjtomasella:(
@dash4800
@dash4800 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I started buying blu rays Disney was the gold standard of what you could expect in a new release. They were the best quality and jam packed with features. Now I avoid them like the plague. You get shitty, bare bones releases and they try to charge you an arm and a leg for them. Its sad because I would love to see the Pirates trilogy get a proper modern release. But I don't see that happening with Disney.
@jerryfleming3620
@jerryfleming3620 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I always felt that Disney had the best quality discs on the market!
@iNeverHadMercy
@iNeverHadMercy 2 жыл бұрын
Your commentary/review helps us “Physical Media Supporters” make better decisions when it’s time to drop $30 for a 4K and being totally let down ☹️
@dharmajanitor
@dharmajanitor 2 жыл бұрын
The 4K version of this looks awful on Disney+ as well, unwatchable IMO. It’s especially shameful when you consider that the original Blu-ray releases of the initial trilogy are still among the very best on the market, especially the picture quality of Dead Man’s Chest and the bonuses on At World’s End. Stuff like this won’t help these movies’ dwindling popularity and reputation. They deserve much better.
@killer92173
@killer92173 2 жыл бұрын
Plus now you can buy the blu rays super cheap now that they are so common now. You can buy the original trilogy for super cheap
@rosstee
@rosstee 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I bought the full collection on Blu-ray just last year.
@moomcmoosson1992
@moomcmoosson1992 2 жыл бұрын
To think how far Disney has fallen from the Platinum Edition DVD days to this.
@melissalayson7275
@melissalayson7275 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know. It's like Disney stopped trying to make physical media good after the Signature blu-rays of their classics came out. Do Better Disney!!!
@daniboy4153
@daniboy4153 2 жыл бұрын
They could do good quality on their animated movies on Blu ray and DVD, but not their biggest live action franchise
@GeekTruth64
@GeekTruth64 2 жыл бұрын
6:33 “This is a total cash grab, it looks awful, and nobody should buy it.” -Jeff I was hopefully for this release too. Its disappointing that Disney is putting all of their eggs in the streaming basket, but not surprising. It’s a very short-sighted business decision to neglect physical media at this point.
@BirdArvid
@BirdArvid 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they haven't spent any time, effort or money on checking where the future lies, (spending tens of millions with market research companies).. which is streaming, at least for a company of the size of Disney. But nobody here wants to hear this.. 4k disc releases will become more and more niche, I'm afraid.. certainly from Disney.
@proclaimed75
@proclaimed75 2 жыл бұрын
Streaming is not the future and believe me they will feel the actions they take. It's nog falling in the righgt place for them if they continue this way. Besides that streaming can never compete to physical because the bitrate is way lower. So in my opinion streaming is doomed....
@tapersaud
@tapersaud 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like they don't care and it is the opposite of their current business model of Disney Plus subs. But just makes me view them as a shitty Corpo; they don't have to kill one type of media for the other to succeed.
@clydesalley
@clydesalley 2 жыл бұрын
@@BirdArvid Apparently not. I'm sick of you Doomsday Danny's telling us the sky is falling especially when some movies continue to sell millions of copies. As a matter of fact, the home movie release of the recent James Bond movie set a record in the UK. I haven't heard the sales results in the U.S., but I'm sure they were good.
@Ashar121
@Ashar121 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair to them, it's the mainstream medium right now, even more so than theatrical releases. Physical media is a niche market. Not many people can see the difference (and I'll be honest, I can't see it too well either unless it's placed side by side). You need a 4k player, you need to buy the disc for each movie you're going to watch. With streaming you need a screen and an internet connection to have access to every movie they ever made. And for a business model, it's recurring payments in perpetuity rather than a couple one time purchases. Even if they release four 4k discs a year averaging $25 each, that's still less money than a $10 a month subscription for Disney+. So both the widespread casual consumer and Disney benefit from the streaming service. All that being said, I didnt spend $15,000 on a home theater setup to experience sub-par quality video/audio and thus I am extremely disappointed in this release considering it's one of my favorite movies of all time. I wish they would at least put more effort into the release if they are already doing it.
@Sunshone7311
@Sunshone7311 2 жыл бұрын
Digital Internegatives are always going to have this problem. It’s bad on two levels. First the film dailies are scanned at 2k 10bit. Second the film was shot super 35 which uses only half of the resolution of the film. The DI is finished in 2k and filmed out back onto film. These negatives are pretty useless for remaster. Typically a studio will want to use the DI files to do the remaster. The dirty little secret is that most of the studios did not archive or have bad archives of the DI. Judging by your screen grabs they chose to Uprez their current HD master, thus the reason you see so much artifacting. Remember, you can’t make something from nothing. They stretch the colors to fit into the rec2020 colorspace and have flatten them out to make them accurate. The resolution exposes the flaws, so they used noise reduction. All of this equals a bad 4k product. To do this properly would have been very expensive and lots of studios are having this problem with titles from this era.
@wright96d
@wright96d 2 жыл бұрын
While I do agree 4K rebuilds of 2K DIs are rare outside of Sony, I have to imagine a studio like Disney could more than justify the cost for a flagship movie like PotC. Though, to be fair, I don't know how much of this movie is made up of VFX shots.
@romualdspizans3163
@romualdspizans3163 2 жыл бұрын
Every movie shot on film,got their ocn archived and can be scanned again to 4k or greater resolution whether its 16mm,super35 or 35mm.Altough you are right that for 2:35 1 is used roughly half of the negative its still can exhibit great results-Gladiator,Black hawk down,LOTR are all shot on super35.Problem with Pirates of Caribbean the movie has a lot of cgi vfx shots.What they should do is not implement dnr on 2k di they have,simply uprez the image,put on 100gb instead 66gb disc with greater bit rate add DV and the result could be very good.
@wright96d
@wright96d 2 жыл бұрын
@@romualdspizans3163 Movies with a DI rarely if ever have an archived OCN. To make them 4K requires tracking down every reel of negative from the vaults and rebuilding the edit in 4K.
@alexander_helmut
@alexander_helmut 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@romualdspizans3163
@romualdspizans3163 2 жыл бұрын
@@wright96d well that doesn't make sense as the ocns are basically equivalent of audio studio master recordings wich is highest quality source. I think there is a some sort of protocol that camera negatives must be archived,i doubt they are thrown out,just because there is 2kdi produced.Problem is back in pre DI era cgi shots were transfered to interpositives and then easily scanned to 4k thats is one of the reasons cgi from old movies tend to look more consistent and natural than in modern.How is it done now in order to produce new 4k di ive little idea,but possibly more costly and time consuming process thats why not all studios doing that
@schubert3315
@schubert3315 2 жыл бұрын
“They’ve kind of just taken the computers and gone nuts on this thing” I’m dying here 😂😂😂
@codymick71
@codymick71 2 жыл бұрын
Finally got a 4k blu-ray player. Appreciate you making these videos so I know what NOT to buy. Was going to go on a 4K disc shopping spree this weekend and had Pirates on the list. Nope, not anymore.
@mardigrasw
@mardigrasw 2 жыл бұрын
Lord of the rings 4k awesome
@melissalayson7275
@melissalayson7275 2 жыл бұрын
Buy the Blu-Ray of Pirates of the Caribbean instead. The picture and sound quality is much better than the 4K.
@jojoker926
@jojoker926 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping my blu ray copy. Completely insulting to us physical media collectors.
@melissalayson7275
@melissalayson7275 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to say but boycotting Disney discs isn't the solution for us physical media collectors because if we do that. Disney might stop making physical media altogether. We should support regular blu-rays instead because blu-ray discs seem the best disc transfers coming Disney nowadays. If we keep supporting the regular blu-ray format it might encourage Disney to make better 4K transfers.
@mike1019831
@mike1019831 2 жыл бұрын
I was afraid of this thats why I held onto my bluray of this movie.
@jamyjet
@jamyjet 2 жыл бұрын
So at this point Disney has basically given up with 4k blu rays and is using their own streaming service to push their content rather than putting out quality dics, by just removing content that should have been included. Disney are basically doing an EA.
@jeffreysterling751
@jeffreysterling751 2 жыл бұрын
The irony of Disney releasing all these crap products is that while it’s insulting to us collectors, it also makes a great argument for owning physical media. This lazy transfer will likely become the official version on all digital services, and if you didn’t have access to the previous Blu-ray you would be stuck with it henceforth.
@nick1635
@nick1635 2 жыл бұрын
That is the case for this film, the Disney+ version is the same bad transfer, infact it's even worse as the sound quality is much worse on streaming.
@B-Edwards499
@B-Edwards499 2 жыл бұрын
It's not just Curse of the Black Pearl, Disney released all five on 4K in Australia and all of them except for 5 have DNR issues on 4K, which is a real shame.
@B-Edwards499
@B-Edwards499 2 жыл бұрын
@@LennyNero2019 Yeah for the 1st & 5th movies they would be, but 2, 3 & 4 were only released on 4K in Australia and the have DNR issues too.
@vb8428
@vb8428 2 жыл бұрын
The online versions seem to have more grain but still look awful
@suddify666
@suddify666 2 жыл бұрын
What’s DNR?
@erikdolnack2737
@erikdolnack2737 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad. I just bought this UHD 4K yesterday, haven't watched it yet. Disney is a total DISGRACEFUL corporation, just pure greed and NO care for artistry.
@twcc406
@twcc406 2 жыл бұрын
If it is still sealed send it back for a refund
@franciscodepaulatitossanch3403
@franciscodepaulatitossanch3403 2 жыл бұрын
Disney left 4k uhd market here in Spain. And not just that, they dont include castillian-spanish in any 4k disc so they are forcing us subscribe to disney +
@JamesErwin
@JamesErwin 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I stopped pre-ordering 4K, unless its from Sony.
@kyleliegel
@kyleliegel 2 жыл бұрын
This transcends not caring about physical media. Disney has very little care for the medium of film - they see everything as content to bolster their brand rather than art. Its incredibly disappointing
@danishprince2760
@danishprince2760 2 жыл бұрын
Disney truly hates physical media.. Fuck
@alyx4436
@alyx4436 2 жыл бұрын
Its official now...we need a fan edit and 4k rescan of the original reels like the fans did with Star Wars 4k77. I hope there are enough fans like me of the first movie can be loud enough to warrant the attention that is needed to get a project like that off the ground!
@theweddingsinger1970
@theweddingsinger1970 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, something like this is not going to get enough traction on social media for it to reach Disney, so I guess we are stuck with it. Sad.
@joeyjeffrey5892
@joeyjeffrey5892 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that will happen if people stop buying is they will just use it as an excuse to stop releasing 4k discs at all.
@jerryfleming3620
@jerryfleming3620 2 жыл бұрын
BUT...maybe in the long run, they will see that they are the only studio with declining sales, while others are doing well. I think we need more social media reviews like Jeff to get out there and let them know what collectors like us want and are not willing to pay for a downgrade.
@trent82
@trent82 2 жыл бұрын
This almost feels like an effort to sabotage the format. If a casual fan buys this 4k disc and thinks this is what 4k discs are like, they probably aren't going to buy anymore. Instead, they will just subscribe to Disney+.
@aaronguzman6047
@aaronguzman6047 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that Disney is remastering for streaming with physical media being afterthought. It's the same problem that's been plaguing their sound mixing for past few years. Unfortunately, that's the norm with them.
@adriannn3720
@adriannn3720 2 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand why would they scrub out the grain. We film buffs are the kind of people who care about grain. They can scrub out the grain for the streaming version. Alternatively, most TV's have noise reduction algorithms built in them, which nowadays work very well. If you hate grain, just fucking turn on the noise reduction.
@prestoncline9391
@prestoncline9391 2 жыл бұрын
Huge disappointment, I love the original Pirates Trilogy and was super excited for this 4k, really sad. Disney why?!!!
@ricogomez4020
@ricogomez4020 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's the operator who works on it just sets it to AUTO and boom he's done working on it. No real artist is looking and taking his time adjusting.
@prestoncline9391
@prestoncline9391 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricogomez4020 exactly, what they needed to do was actually get Gore Verbinski back to oversee a new 4k rescan and really make this incredible movie shine.
@AdaptiveRider
@AdaptiveRider 2 жыл бұрын
If anything from Disney since 2007 is any indication, you should assume Disney will ruin or fail at everything they do
@prestoncline9391
@prestoncline9391 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdaptiveRider yeah I agree, their last really good blu ray transfer was probably the Lone Ranger in 2013 that was a really good disk, but no surprise there since it was done by Gore Verbinski who seems to really care about Video and Audio quality. Shame he wasn’t involved in this new 4k disk
@prestoncline9391
@prestoncline9391 2 жыл бұрын
@Physical media agent that makes since, yeah now that I think about it, they really haven’t made a single 4k blur ray that stands out over the normal blu ray. Even the original Star Wars were a true 4k scan but they don’t look good in my opinion, to much DNR no film grain, just looks waxy and fake.
@776bulldog
@776bulldog 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling the truth, this is the reason I subscribe to your channel and listen/watch all your reviews before I buy anything anymore, and I have done this for a long time now, so please keep up the great work, I admire your honesty. Dave
@bladechimp-2nd316
@bladechimp-2nd316 2 жыл бұрын
A proper spanking of Disney's business practices re: physical media. Totally justified.
@satanwest2923
@satanwest2923 2 жыл бұрын
I already boycott Disney! They love giving a middle finger to as many different fandoms. Disney Star Wars, middle finger to the fans. Marvel after Endgame, middle finger to the fans. 4K/physical media collectors, middle finger to them. Snow White & Little Mermaid lead actress roles, middle finger to fans. Don't support companies that hate you!
@xunkownedx
@xunkownedx 2 жыл бұрын
Considering Disney is lazy enough to do this, it's safe to assume that they're streaming this 4K transfer on Disney+... Meaning that the only way to watch Curse of the Black Pearl in its original theatrical look is through the Blu-Ray.
@nick1635
@nick1635 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the version on Disney+ is the same 4k transfer, they don't care about quality, only about making a profit for the least outlay.
@vfplayer
@vfplayer 2 жыл бұрын
Heat was Regency and Warner Bros originally. It is now under Disney?!
@boukeelsinghorst4848
@boukeelsinghorst4848 2 жыл бұрын
I found out that there was going to be a 4K release of the first Pirates just a day after I ordered the Pirates of the Caribbean 1-5 collection, I was already expecting so send that back, but it looks like I can keep it after all. I really think Disney is deliberately killing physical media so more people will start using their streaming services. They forget that movie enthusiast already have most of the streaming services and watch physical media for an even higher quality video and audio experience, this doesn't promise any good for the future of physical media unfortunately 😥
@keco185
@keco185 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like someone went to the theater, recorded the movie on their phone, and then put it on a DVD and sold it to you.
@travisspazz1624
@travisspazz1624 2 жыл бұрын
The Gore Verbinski trilogy deserves so much better!!
@ricogomez4020
@ricogomez4020 2 жыл бұрын
My 2022 resolution is going to be wait for your reviews and then wait for Nov. when the prices go down to buy 4k.
@mardigrasw
@mardigrasw 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@imkayjaylea
@imkayjaylea 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up the first three Pirates movies on Bluray (came with a separate disc per movie with more special features than just what was included in the movie disc itself) I was so much happier with that then what I'm seeing here, I seemed to have dodged a bullet in not buying the 5-disc Pirates 4K only bundle here in Australia.
@chrisquinlan6527
@chrisquinlan6527 2 жыл бұрын
This movie is a gaping hole in my collection, so I was hoping this 4k disc would be a good way to fix that problem. Guess I'll just spend the $8 or $9 bucks on the old blu ray. Thank you for saving me money.
@MediaLover2023
@MediaLover2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr But u get no HDR or any actual color spectrum. Still a garbage ass release.
@MediaLover2023
@MediaLover2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr That's true, that's how T2 was like. But in the current state Disney is pulling, it's highly doubtable.
@MediaLover2023
@MediaLover2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr I have bought it, and heard the Atmos track it's the only thing that's good about. Comparing it to T2 is kind of overselling it but still a disappointment of a release.
@MediaLover2023
@MediaLover2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr Agreed
@chrisquinlan6527
@chrisquinlan6527 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing a lot of comments about the atmos track. Totally valid if you guys upgraded for the new track. I'm kind of...balling on a budget so no atmos for me. Once I can afford a new system I will be making the upgrade. Until then, good old fashioned 5.1 for me. 😆
@DillAvery
@DillAvery 2 жыл бұрын
This is why with older titles, I never buy a 4K “sight unseen”, I’ll wait to see reviews and comparisons before I buy.
@115115cameron
@115115cameron 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to this one. Once again Jeff you've not let me/us down with your honest review.
@MrJonnydanger
@MrJonnydanger 2 жыл бұрын
What's happened to Disney? - Their CEO changed. Bob Chapek is so horrible at his job he's actually hurt the brand and has not only estranged customers and fans but his own employees who can't stand him.
@camel40420
@camel40420 2 жыл бұрын
What's crazy is that you can't even say they are trying to push you towards streaming it's not like there is a pristine digital copy on D+.
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 2 жыл бұрын
Shame too, because this is a beautiful movie. I still can't believe this came out in 2003
@Hessey96
@Hessey96 2 жыл бұрын
That's disappointing but not surprising. Was looking forward to this.
@intense79nick
@intense79nick 2 жыл бұрын
Hate situations like this. Buying it tells them we'll buy any lazy incompetent transfer, not buying it tells them there's no interest in physical 4k content. Lose lose really.
@NoirFan84
@NoirFan84 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly though I think there are plenty of stupid people out there who will buy a 4k release just because it's 4k & so they just assume then that must be much better. Honestly I find the "improved" 4k versions of previous BluRays more underwhelming more often than I'm blown away but there have been definite exceptions where I have been very impressed.
@BlakeBommer
@BlakeBommer 2 жыл бұрын
I got burned, in Australia they released all 5 films on 4K a couple weeks ago. They only arrived yesterday and I took a chance buying them. (Knowing it was Disney) I wish I didn’t take a chance. The packaging has an empty disc holder, where the standard Blu-Ray disc would go. The other discs aren’t special either, mostly the same stuff that has been done on the black pearl. Cheers Jeff keep it up 👍
@steewith2ees14
@steewith2ees14 2 жыл бұрын
Despite having only a basic HD setup as a home theatre I have stuck with 1080p optical releases after replacing my collection for the 2nd time (VHS - DVD - BD) as following an initial lack of enthusiasm for the recent 3D revival a decade ago, personally finding Real 3D too dark despite Avatar being still impressive and more importantly, how the transition to digital projection degraded the standard movie image. So after upgrading to a 3DTV I was staggered at how much better it was than the cinema, the backlight proving all the difference. I started waiting for the home release to premier so many films until a new cinema built close to me included an IMAX theatre in one of the auditoriums, giving me reason to find the theatrical experience whether IMAX, IMAX 3D or optimised for the format the top experience again. Love the channel - Happy New Year from the UK
@TwoTown
@TwoTown 2 жыл бұрын
Such a disappointment, though not totally unexpected. Out of interest, did you compare it to Disney+'s 4k version of the film? Because I wouldn't be surprised if it looks better there. The same way they refuse to put Dolby Vision on discs but will apply it for those same films on D+. What worries me about crap like this is that it's completely intentional. For all we know, they _want_ us to not buy this, to falsify a statistic that no one cares about physical media anymore, so they can justify stopping its production all together and focussing entirely on D+ for home releases.
@cedlang6654
@cedlang6654 2 жыл бұрын
I’m wondering, how much it cost to make a 4K transfer with both HDR, Dolby atmos track or DTSX track and how much copies they need to sell to actually make profit! It worries me because more and more you can see that big companies don’t make logical decisions in making these 4K discs!
@aramisaac4292
@aramisaac4292 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny because I watched this movie on D+ recently and it looked fine
@jonahlevin67
@jonahlevin67 2 жыл бұрын
The Australian 5 disc set I have is encoded with Dolby Vision. Makes little difference though. The Blu-rays in direct comparison looks better than the 4K discs.
@cedlang6654
@cedlang6654 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonahlevin67 that is incredible that reputable companies like Disney decide to still launch a subpar product! Greed at it’s finest
@jonahlevin67
@jonahlevin67 2 жыл бұрын
@Physical media agent Actually, I bought it off eBay, but I believe it's a JB HiFi exclusive, currently at least. JB HiFi is an Australian chain that sells physical media and TV's and home entertainment products as well. The packaging of the 5 disc set is very bare-bones and the discs have very simple static menus, unlike the Blu-rays which had, at the time, very attractive animated menus which only goes to show how much effort Disney USED to put into home video releases. The HDR /Dolby Vision grading on the movies have an over abundant reliance on teal colouring and everything just seems dull and soft in comparison with the original Blu-rays. The audio also seems less dynamic, with the bass frequencies appearing weaker than the Blu-rays as well. Sorry,, I can't link you to any reviews although I'm certain there are a few out there.
@TwoTailedCaperer
@TwoTailedCaperer 2 жыл бұрын
With noise reduction and grain scrubbing, it's almost as if they treated this movie the same way they did with their classic 2D animated movies. It's still not the best practice in my opinion, but when you're working with flat colors and an inherently flat painted image, it's going to look much better than it turned out here. Coupled with the shocking lack of bonus features, it honestly feels like they didn't care at all about this release and dumped it out for a quick buck. Shame on you, Disney!
@saputodude
@saputodude 2 жыл бұрын
Flagship title I see what you did there lol Great channel, just subbed recently and have been enjoying your recent vids!
@JustinHEMI05
@JustinHEMI05 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I sub to this channel. As I decide to "upgrade" a blu ray to 4K, I check to see your thoughts on it first. I was looking to see if Pirates has been converted and lo and behold, here we are. Thanks for the heads up!
@KKairos7
@KKairos7 2 жыл бұрын
Sad to hear but I’m not surprised. R.I.P. Disney Physical Media
@marcohaskell4105
@marcohaskell4105 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. Been waiting for this franchise to be released on 4k as I don't own it yet. What a disappointment. Really appreciate your channel. Lots of great information.
@davidhart8552
@davidhart8552 2 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews, stellar observations. Never seen this movie but don’t think it’s my cup of tea. I’m a diehard older film movie buff! Your channel, along with movie guy365 and Cereal at Midnight are my gold standard for media information and opinions! I want Das Boot and of course Casablanca! How much longer till Lawrence of Arabia available solo?
@ghosface353
@ghosface353 2 жыл бұрын
Why did Warner Bros lose the right to Heat in 2017? Their DVD and blu-ray releases around the world was by Warner Home Video, until 2017 when 20th Centry Fox distributed it.
@Ashar121
@Ashar121 2 жыл бұрын
I am seriously so disappointed. This was something I was really looking forward to seeing on my TV in 4k and hearing with my Atmos setup. The stunning set-pieces and visuals would have been incredible. The ship battles could have sounded crazy. But I guess it's not going to be the case
@kerouac906
@kerouac906 2 жыл бұрын
It's not 4K yet but at least you can still watch Master & Commander Blu-ray for an amazing seafaring audio experience!
@kewlbug
@kewlbug 2 жыл бұрын
Very disheartening, especially since Disney owns everything now.
@peterschreuder2600
@peterschreuder2600 2 жыл бұрын
As expected tho😂😂 guess im happy with my rare pirates bluray box with only the first 3 movies.❤️
@teampug777
@teampug777 2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Love the channel and your content, Jeff. Keep up the good work!
@mr.manfredjensenjen7294
@mr.manfredjensenjen7294 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I waited to buy it. Definitely passing on it.
@harryberry474
@harryberry474 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Disney is trying to kill the hard disc format, they're really pushing their Disney+ I haven't been impressed with 4K as a format generally they almost always appear darker especially in shadow detail which doesn't have "detail" the detail is gone and appears just black...I've really been disillusioned by 4Kand how great it is. In my eyes the difference between 4K and blu ray are barely noticeable, and to top it off on the hardware side issues abound, compatibility issues, HDMI cable issues (which usually get blamed for most anything to do with playback) the cable industry is raking in the $$$ due to people swiping out cables only to find ...it's not the cables. I also think Atmos DTSx is a novelty...what's next sound coming from below? Constant changes in standards where will it end. I watch movies for the movie, the emotional connection not the WOW factor. Don't get me wrong I do like a great picture and sound but enough is enough.
@adriannn3720
@adriannn3720 2 жыл бұрын
What TV do you have?
@harryberry474
@harryberry474 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriannn3720 LG OLED 55B7A
@Dellerss
@Dellerss Жыл бұрын
They don't even release anything up here in the Nordics, bad or not. The only thing that is possible to get is imported 4k blu-rays, which is twice the price and obviously have no local subtitles or dubbing for the animated stuff. Streaming is not an option, the quality is subpar and I don't need a dozen places to watch stuff. I dislike paying money continuously and end up with nothing, which is why I own my apartment compared to renting.
@cimarronpob
@cimarronpob 2 жыл бұрын
You mention ‘Heat’. I’ve had it in 4K HDR in my iTunes account for quite a while. I find this transfer much too dark, nearly impossible to watch in daylight. Hope the transfer for the physical release is much much better.
@samanthashoemaker5908
@samanthashoemaker5908 Жыл бұрын
I would love if Disney did a rereleased of this Pirates of the Caribbean but with better quality
@nicholastotoro7721
@nicholastotoro7721 2 жыл бұрын
This is the same Disney who put IMAX-enhanced versions of their movies on their streaming service, but not on their 4K BD’s.
@amirulasyraf1409
@amirulasyraf1409 2 жыл бұрын
with imax shot and Dolby vision.
@johncooley4472
@johncooley4472 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I know you just had a little one and I have one on the way at the end of the month. I was planning on picking this up to start preparing the titles for her as she grows up. I was disappointed that it is so bad. I was ready to pick this up but I appreciate you saving me the money. Thank you again for what you do for physical media.
@chrisfarleyshrek4347
@chrisfarleyshrek4347 2 жыл бұрын
Disney further proving that they are purposley killing physical media by making half-assed 4K releases. This release makes the original Akira 4K release seem decent. Another 4K off of my "To-Buy" list.
@susdawg18
@susdawg18 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jeff, for the informative review! Glad I held off on this release because I wasn't sure if I really wanted to update my Pirates of the Caribbean collection! Now, I know, that if this is what Disney is going to put out I think I'll pass and keep what I have!! Also, I can't believe that it had been almost 20 years when it was released!!
@sheldonpetrie3706
@sheldonpetrie3706 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that struck me the most years ago was the Paramount release of Iron man on BluRay had an insanely comprehensive and ultimate edition release. And the paltry bonus features on the Disney only releases.
@Chris.Fitz1
@Chris.Fitz1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I had this in my hand last night but didn’t want to wait in the stupidly long line at my local Best Buy so I put it back. I’m glad I did after seeing this! Lol
@irishlad9797
@irishlad9797 Жыл бұрын
I live in Ireland and all 5 movies are being released on 4k in a beautiful Steelbook Set on April 3rd…Think I will cancel the order after seeing this enlightening review 👍
@questionblock8949
@questionblock8949 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, really does look bad when comparing to bluray
@Lanosrep
@Lanosrep 2 жыл бұрын
Disney win either way. If people buy this intentionally lazy product, they win. If people decide to boycott Disney physical media, they still win, because of Disney+, which they earn vastly more from.
@juder2
@juder2 2 жыл бұрын
8:36 haha the "watch this disc" gave me a good chuckle. Thanks for the great content King
@brendanlittle2498
@brendanlittle2498 2 жыл бұрын
I admittedly have a pretty untrained eye when it comes to seeing 4K vs blu ray comparisons but this one is shockingly bad when you see those screenshots next to each other
@PassTheCurry97
@PassTheCurry97 2 жыл бұрын
Disney has all the money in the world and they do this to one of their kost beloved franchises... i would understand if it wasnt shot on film but THEY HAVE THE ORIGINAL FILM NEGATIVES. no reason not to scan them at 4k and give it a good hdr grading... this is just sad...
@F1989C
@F1989C 2 жыл бұрын
Well good thing I never had the blue Ray, so at least I upgraded to that with this purchase
@paulrose464
@paulrose464 Жыл бұрын
Good thing I watched your video before upgrading I have the blu ray version and was going to upgrade to 4k but not now thanks for saving me money
@oldschoolfunkster1
@oldschoolfunkster1 2 жыл бұрын
Off the subject...it just occurred to me. Is there any 4k live concert discs out there? If so, will you make a review of one? Would love to hear what audio it presents. Another super review. As always. #1 KZbin reviewer!!
@ChineseSecretAgent
@ChineseSecretAgent 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for getting the word out, Jeff! Video game reviews in the future?
@oasis6444
@oasis6444 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for this very useful review. Disney management team has been crap with 4K releases from the very beginning as well as making movies lately. Cf Star Wars sequel!!
@lemonysnick5171
@lemonysnick5171 2 жыл бұрын
Why even have a physical media department if you're just going to run it into the ground?
@badreality2
@badreality2 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the accurate thumbnail. I kind of stopped these videos, because it gets repetitive when I hear, "4K is better than regular Blu-Ray.", but when I saw this thumbnail, I knew this would be a warning of what not to buy.
@jstock2000
@jstock2000 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Yours was not the first review I saw for this film but it great to see how in depth you went to say how bad this is and why people should not buy it.
@villain7140
@villain7140 2 жыл бұрын
Disney really has zero interest in cinematic, artistic or qualitative intergrity or in anything that isn't easy profit and if it wasn't clear in the level of trash their recent films have been it shows here in their treatment of what is supposed to be the most perfect way to watch a movie possible
@thebrycerodgers
@thebrycerodgers 2 жыл бұрын
That makes me so sad. All of the pirates movies are dumb fun, except this first one - I think it really holds up as a fantastic film. I hope word spreads and this sells horribly
@thiagomattar2368
@thiagomattar2368 2 жыл бұрын
Shame on you, Disney.
@volt8ge
@volt8ge 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great and honest review. I noticed this while watching the 4K HDR streaming version of this movie on VUDU in July. I asked myself, why does this movie primarily look dark and flat?!?!? Well, now I know.
@desertraider
@desertraider 2 жыл бұрын
Had been considering waiting for 4K upgrades for the entire POTC series. I'll keep them on blu-ray and maybe purchase the movies from iTunes if they go on sale for dirt cheap. Thank you for your honest review.
@JG-pj3bg
@JG-pj3bg Жыл бұрын
Watch and read reviews people, don't buy just anything, I will hold on to my Pirates Blu-ray's and skip the Pirate 4K's
@jackfrye456
@jackfrye456 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you’re doing amazing work, keep it up!!
@freecstyle4784
@freecstyle4784 2 жыл бұрын
What a huge disappointment. Disney turned into such a sorry company. I was so pumped for this franchise transformation to 4k. They did used to care about physical media. Disney sucks. They don't deserve anyone's money. STOP BAYING THIER S***!
@johnl9843
@johnl9843 2 жыл бұрын
I like your videos mate, I searched your channel and can't find a 4k review on any of the 'Hunger Game' movies... not sure if your a fan of that series but would you recommend getting that on 4k or just sit on the blurays?
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