Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - Liar's Dice Extended Scene

The liar's dice scene edited to its original length.

[@harrytroglodyte2129]

The fact that bootstrap was free and then still put his life on the line really shows how much he loved his son

[@thereasonbehindchickensacts]

He knew he couldn't go away from the ship anyway and will would die if he won the game

[@IHWKR]

Really shows how stupid his son is too.

[@Da_Publick]

True, but he should've paid closer attention. Will wanted to know about the key more than anything.

[@2000yearOldYogiAspirant]

I think most parents would go that far 😌

[@JadStaAna]

Yep.

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

Ah shit, they cut the best line out of the movie. "Ya can't beat the devil twice, son." "Then why are you walking away?"

[@davidbuckley2435]

My favourite is: "I choose my own fate." "Then it wouldn't be *fate*, would it?"

[@shawnthompson2303]

5:05 I only bet On what is dearest to a Man’s heart Else there is no way to tell If he is bluffing. Where a Man is willing to risk Or not to risk *That’s the measure if his soul.*

[@Myhandleisasecret123]

*best*

[@oPHILOSORAPTORo]

I know, that line is so cold. And Will plays Jones like a fiddle, knowing his pride, and his reputation as a captain are on the line if he doesn't accept a second time. Jones is playing Liar's Dice, Will is playing 4D Chess. That one line show's how clever and dangerous Will Has become since the first film, and the fact that this scene got cut down is a crime against nature, humanity, and the laws of physics.

[@DanielSanchez-ul7ve]

I wanted to like this comment, but currently it has 666 likes

[@danielmiller2323]

The foreshadowing of "your fate is to be married to this ship" though....whole scene should have made the movie

[@Lowkey_DeAndre]

Yup then he says “I choose my own fate” “then it wouldn’t be fate at all”- jones

[@nickrykert2572]

CONGRATS ON 200!!!🎇🎊⚡🏆

[@Carnidoom]

nut if he knew that wouldnt that also mean davy wodl know he would die?

[@daguroswaldson257]

And he did choose his own fate by marrying Elizabeth. So, both were right.

[@malusblack6083]

"You can't best the Devil twice son," "Then why are you walking away?" God damn that was cold

[@TheUndyingCrystal]

It's strangely melancholic. Jones is actually being really uncharacteristically nice there and trying to tell Will not to push his luck. He never realized that winning was never Will's endgame, it was the means to an end

[@Luxord5294]

​@@TheUndyingCrystal That and he proved to be a good sportsman about losing, he could've killed Bootstrap as his "freedom" but instead told Will "Well done", applauded him, and left him in peace(ish).

[@pedrourbano501]

​​​@@Luxord5294I think it's probably because although Davy Jones is indeed ruthless, he is a man of his word. He almost always does his part of a deal without any tricks. Besides, losing a single crew member isn't that big a deal to him, he can always raid another ship and get like, five new ones. To give an example, that 100 soul bargain he made with Jack. Although he did set Jack for failure I do think that if, by some miracle, Jack managed to collect and deliver 100 souls, Davy would let Jack off the hook.

[@Luxord5294]

​@@pedrourbano501 That's true however Jones clearly likes stacking the deck to his advantage, which detracts from him being a man of his word. Holding Jack's soul against one hundred is clearly a sucker's bet, there is no way Jack could even hope to claim that many in only a few days, or telling Will he could leave "the next time we make port" which would be in ten year's time thus really negating Will's freedom. Hell his whole shtick of recruitment is by attacking random passersby and essentially shanghaiing them into selling their souls to him. What he doesn't say is that he won't actually release them since they become part of the ship which he clearly doesn't tell them at the time of the deal. It's pragmatic what he does, and honestly shows he is a man to be feared in more than just martial prowess, but it does show that he has no problem offering wagers and deals in bad faith; where he holds all the cards and the other has little prayer of succeeding.

[@eckoa.9339]

Wish thiers was a devil laugh on Davy Jones while coming back to face Willain in second time.. damn that will be nerd rocking..

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

This was so much better than the theatrical cut. Unlike what the directors said, I don't believe this made Jones look in any way incompetent, because this isn't just a game of competence. It's a game of luck. You can tell that he's lost this game before, and his humanity shone through when he simply congratulated Will upon his win, adding more depth to his character. The stakes also become far greater when you understand the game and realize how slim the chances of winning it twice against a man who has essentially nothing to lose in it are. So Will challenging Jones again would've been incredibly tense seeing it for the first time, and Bootstrap risking his newly won freedom to protect his son hits far harder than it did when he was already set for decades of service. Everything about this cut scene made it better. Sometimes Hollywood really has no clue what its doing.

[@EmilioJVC]

They cut the scene because Jones looked incompetent?, then they made him an incompetent puppet in the third film, lol

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@EmilioJVC Yup. It undermined him anyway.

[@Psy_Ro]

or most of the audience test didnt understand the rules of a game most have never played or seen, so the directors made the scene shorter;

[@ratemal7748]

I would say the theatrical cut did suit it better: First, the first game feels completely pointless from a plot standpoint. It adds nothing to the movie. Winning "freedom" for his father accomplishes nothing either: What is he going to do, swim to the nearest port? The only (seemingly) feasible way to really free him is to kill Davy Jones. Second, the way Jones plays the second game does suit him way better. Both games were decided by skill rather than luck. In the first game Jones plays in a very dull way and gets outplayed hard by Will, in the second game he actually plays like the devil he is. (also, getting four-of-a-kind twice in two consecutive games feels a bit too ridiculous)

[@ulfberht4431]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ratemal7748 I’m afraid I have to disagree on a lot of your points. Whether it adds to the plot or not doesn’t matter because, even if it doesn’t, the story is already bloated and convoluted anyway. Sometimes a break from the story to add more lore and story can help benefit the story further. Your first point is a bit of an unfair way of seeing it. While it may not add to the story, it at takes a break from the already massive story, plus it adds more to the lore and it helps audiences to give more context to the game of lair’s dice. And your point about how Bootstrap is free but has no way to get off the ship is a completely moot point. If you’re gonna say that the first game is pointless but then bring up something trivial like “how is he gonna get back, swim to shore or something?” then you need to reevaluate your argument a little better because that’s an irrelevant statement. Your second point shows that you really don’t understand (or even care) about character perspective from a thematically point of view. I agree with the first guy’s comment saying that it shows a bit of humanity in Davy Jones and even if it’s “dull” to you, it’s a more realistic way of showing Jones’s character. Both games show a side of Jones that you completely missed. The first game, he was not desperate to win because the stakes of loosing a crew member matters little to Jones. That shows that human lives don’t matter to him, he doesn’t care if they are free or if they serve him. But when the stakes turn on something he holds dear, that is when he’s desperate. That’s why in the first game he played “dull” because even if he lost, it didn’t matter. Loosing to Liar dice with stakes that low to him doesn’t hurt his pride.

[@brandenlucero]

This entire sequence should have been in the final film

[@asdf0747]

no, it diminishes Will Turner having to wager his soul, his freedom entirely. Also, beating the devil alone would've had less impact.

[@yoursafeplace8476]

directors commentary explains why it wasn't, they had good reason.

[@92edoy]

@@asdf0747 eh, I don't know. I can see the first match being Will's plan to set Jones up for a rematch in which the stakes are higher (the key), as well as baiting Jones to believe Will is young and arrogant to dare "challenge the devil twice". The directors surely had motives to shorten the scene, but it might have worked. It gives a more real vibe than "I bet everything, all-in, from the very first game", which is more "cartoonish" IMO, if that makes sense.

[@daldan66]

@@asdf0747 no because bootstrap had his freedom and came back in to save his son, it adds so much weight to this scene that wasnt really there in the theatric cut

[@rodrigofloresruiz1985]

@@yoursafeplace8476 why was that?

[@SciFiLOLproductions]

0:47 The fact that the music isn’t ambiance for the viewers but is *ACTUALLY* Jones playing his organ is such an amazing detail

[@Lordparable]

Hearing the organ stop playing was menacing 💀

[@voljinshin]

And I understand

[@jakethenecromorph]

I never noticed

[@mrdonutswildride7808]

*organ music stops*

[@Jakefromstatefarm56503]

This scene draws so many beautiful principles of life in one shot. How all of life can be ruined in an instant. How father loves son and son loves father. How men guard their emotions. How people are betting on their lives like its a game. How important it is to take risks and knowing when not to. How easy it is to become part of something you never wished to. How love can push you to do crazy things. How deceptive yet honest people can be. Fairness. How cruel life is. What really matters in life is the ones we love.

[@yasminsolomon5746]

I just feel like I could just stroke Bootstrap Bills face. And just kiss him. You know? 😀😀

[@alliasstar7289]

I love how this scene makes it very clear that Jones can be cruel but he is definitely not evil. "You can't best the Devil twice son." Like c'mon don't be stupid. You're free, go live your life

[@stefanocrosazzo3262]

Technically it was Bootstrap Bill who was free at that point, Will was still "enlisted"

[@GlitchyHalo]

@@stefanocrosazzo3262yeah even after the 2nd game he was only allowed to go to shore the next time they make port which isn’t for another 10 years or so plus he was a placeholder for jacks 100 souls

[@alliasstar7289]

@@stefanocrosazzo3262 yeah I just realized that myself a couple weeks ago lol. But my point still stands

[@mihikadeo]

Anyone else notice at 4:57 when Davy Jones asks Will, "How do you know of the key?", his voice changes to it's human sound...?

[@turkishjanitor3666]

He sounds a bit like Jack

[@Massivegenius69]

my theory is because its something connecting him to his heart.

[@pedrourbano501]

I love that in moments of vulnerability Davy let's his human side show, just like when he told Calypso, "my heart will always belong to you."

[@General-Kitten]

a year later but god damn are you absolutely right.

[@brandonparson8821]

I love how that guy behind Will is just enjoying the game while casually scratching his pet Eel's chin at 3:15. And how when it goes to take a nap but wakes up at 3:29 and is like "Ah shit! What I miss guys?"

[@Carnidoom]

i think its a moray but yeah

[@ambience273]

That's his pp.

[@danceslikeratigan4008]

​@@CarnidoomA moray is a breed of Eel

[@alisonpurgatory85]

the details in the animation are tremendous

[@Kubizan]

Will: 2 threes Jones: 3 threes. Will: 4 threes. Jones: 5 threes. Will: The Moray: Booooriing... Will: 5 Sixes. The Moray: WHAAA?

[@Red_Coyo]

The way Jones says "Then it wouldn't be fate, would it?" sounds like as if he's heard people say that a million times.

[@Untitled_-_Productions.]

The guy has lived for centuries so he probably has lol

[@alecpangia8806]

Small detail, but I love that thunderclap right after Jones says "It can only be a woman." At first I thought it was for sheer dramatic effect. Then, I remembered that Jones's lover is the sea goddess.

[@PsYChOtlC_ShArK]

Gotta love that he is still respectful, bro did the best version of an applause he could to congratulate will

[@OfficialArmyman]

He was dumping his tobacco out of his pipe, but it works both ways.

[@PsYChOtlC_ShArK]

@@OfficialArmyman you right. Never actually noticed that

[@pedrourbano501]

​@@OfficialArmymanI think it was basically a dual purpose, yes he was dumping the tobacco, but also, his right hand is a mass of tentacles, if he slapped against his crab claw it would probably sound like throwing a wet rag against a solid surface instead of a clap so he used his pipe.

[@aeonversestudios01]

As someone who has played a lot of Liar's Dice, it's really interesting to analyze just how precise the writing of the game is and how it reflects the characters. Turn 1: Bootstrap makes an unassuming opening bid. Turn 2: Jones makes a safe but deceptive bid to gauge his opponent. Turn 3: Will, the one with the most at stake, makes a cautious bid that tells his hand. Turn 4: Bootstrap makes a bold bid in an attempt to force Jones into a corner. Turn 5: Jones reveals his advantage and uses Will's previous bid against him. Turn 6: Knowing he has lost, Will refuses to surrender and makes a hail Mary bid. Turn 7: Bootstrap makes a desperate bid to save his son. Turn 8: Jones confirms what everyone knows and calls Bootstrap a liar.

[@midnytevega2777]

Forgive me. Jones bid 7 fives...will bid 8 fives, which was accurate. Would Will still have lost the bet.? I've never played Liar dice so I really have no clue

[@nightactual2303]

@@midnytevega2777 In total, there were only 7 fives on the board across all players. Three for will, four for jones, none for bill. So to call anything over 7 fives would be a lie, and lose you the game if you get called a liar.

[@midnytevega2777]

@@nightactual2303 looking back at it.. there were only 7 and idk why I counted 8🤦🏾‍♂️

[@aeonversestudios01]

@@midnytevega2777 So it depends on how they're playing the game and if they're counting ones as wild, which based on their bids I would assume that they are, but there's no way to know for sure. If they are playing wild aces, then there are in fact 8 fives on the table, which is still an extremely risky bid but Will was certainly safe because Bootstrap was not going to call him a liar.

[@bigblue207]

@@aeonversestudios01I just watched a video that mentioned the screenwriters confirmed in a commentary on this scene Ace’s aren’t wild

[@Matt.Attack8]

I just got the joke when he said “the very next time we make port” He’s telling Will he can go ashore the next time He’s able to step on land in the next 10 years 😭

[@BaronMartin]

actually no :D He's saying that because he knows damn well that Dutchman never make port. It doesn't have to.

[@kevinbezal5739]

Jones being an A-grade prick 😂😂 is too funny 😂😂😂

[@vxrgo2680]

Jones is such a badass and sarcastic Villain. I love him so much 😂😂😂

[@kimmeeb]

I just want to point out 1 thing: Bootstrap throwing his own dice in AND taking control of the turn order with “your bid captain,” meant that no matter what, Will wouldn’t lose. In this game, you can only call someone a liar on your turn, which means you can only call the player immediately before you a liar. Even though Jones knows Will is lying with his 8 fives, just through deductive reasoning, he can’t call Will a liar cause it’s not Jones’ turn. And we all know Bootstrap would never make Will lose. So before the first bid, Will’s already won.

[@jesusortiz4676]

Wait, aren't 1s wild in Liar's Dice? Because if so, Will actually won and the moment Jones played his hand, Will would've called him out. This is changed because of Bootstraps outrageous call because he's afraid of his son losing

[@lampshade7189]

@@jesusortiz4676in directors commentary for the dvd , they claims 1s aren’t wild for this version of the game

[@miskarletFGC]

@@jesusortiz4676 It's an "optional" rule, some people played it that way, others didn't

[@zildjianabuser]

@@miskarletFGC it was my understanding that you couldn't lower any of the values of the bids. How did Bill's bid of 6 3's be valid?

[@theminesweeper1]

Will could lose if he incorrectly calls Davy Jones a liar.

[@aaronkenyon7112]

"What was it you said about that which is dearest to a mans heart" Shows a drawing of the literal key to Jones heart. They missed out big taking out this extended version

[@Da_Publick]

For some reason this is my favorite scene in the entire movie. And Jack Sparrow had nothing to do with it.

[@trustnotasoul8249]

I agree it’s definitely in my top 3 for the entire franchise but my personal favourite is in the first movie when jack sparrow tricks barbossa n says that shit about being dishonest n it’s the honest ones u gotta watch out for or some crazy word play like that😂

[@markramsey2454]

@@trustnotasoul8249 for a trilogy based on a theme park ride, it had some insanely deep dialogue

[@DepravedCoTApologist]

Because it has the trilogy's next best character: Davy Jones

[@JackDoesVoicesPoorly]

“I choose my own fate” “Then it wouldn’t be fate, would it?”

[@ATMAnubis]

7:41- Davy Jones laughing mockingly as he walks away needs to be a reaction GIF.

[@pyrus0zero]

3:57 You know I half expected when bill said ‘I’m free’ Jones would stab Bill and say ‘so you are’

[@pugking4518]

Davy is a lot of things but he does not break his deals and it is just one man that would have his freedom why waste your time killing just one man? and if he did it would have shown Davy crew that William had got to him which would be a good way to undermine his authority if he did stab Bill

[@sandman5522]

Lawful Evil

[@TheUndyingCrystal]

​@pugking4518 Exactly. And as we see later...the captain of the Dutchman is as much its prisoner as they are its master.

[@pyrus0zero]

@@pugking4518 Technically speaking all of his crew are undead. So by ‘being free’ they return to being just dead. He’s technically keeping his deal and dealing a huge emotional blow to Will having his dad die in front of him.

[@bigblue207]

@@pyrus0zerothey postpone their death. They haven’t died and resurrected

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

Fun Fact: The deleted sequence of "Liar's Dice" where Will won the first match against Davy Jones is in the Junior Novelization of the film.

[@JDHD99]

Junior Novelisation?

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

@@JDHD99 Yeah, there are no adult novels of the *"Pirates"* films (In fact: the Junior Novel - 1st edition - for *"At World's End"* literally ends with a cliffhanger where Elizabeth orders the crew of the Black Pearl to attack the East India Trading Company before the final show-down. Though there is now a "Special Edition" that adds extra chapters which does includes the ending.)

[@JDHD99]

@@JOSH-lw2jv Oh wow! I never knew that! That's awesome!

[@Demaad]

7:38 I love how Davy Jones’ crew genuinely evil laugh alongside their Captain, true homies

[@Renzo_M314]

Watching Dead Man's Chest again make me realize that this scene should have been included. The whole original scene just felt so short now

[@EllaIpashitz]

🌕🌕🌕✅️⌚️

[@joeyd4682]

Boy, all that radiation from Chernobyl really hit Boris

[@analothor]

HA

[@ankitpairwar]

😂😂

[@nikosgreek352]

That sound of "Fuck off" Jones makes at Bootstrap at 4:21 is just so special to me.

[@shawnthompson2303]

I mean.... he is played as a Glaswegian. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@nikosgreek352]

@@shawnthompson2303 ah does that mean from Glasgow?

[@Sadistic_Bread]

Sounds like Davy Jones was charging a spit if Bootstrap didn't move

[@MitchellBPYao]

I like James Norrington

[@Uncle_Hargle]

“qwuah”

[@Sam-im5tc]

Pirates is such a rare series where the deleted scenes for the most part would've made the movies better. They are already long films but add scenes like this and "people arent cargo" back and I'd would gladly have still watched these.

[@supercrafter5351]

Let me get this straight. You have to make a guess of how many of whichever side of the dice in total is facing upward. If you guess right you win, if not you lose. But also, if you think your opponent is wrong you can call them a liar. If you’re right, you win. If you’re wrong, you lose. Do I have that right?

[@chancecomic1595]

Basically, ye. You call that a certain number of any particular face are on the board. If your call is less than or equal to the number of that face, your call is valid. If it's more, your call is invalid. On your turn, you can either name the previous player as making an invalid call (ie. Naming them a liar), or make a higher bid (Different versions of the game have different methods of doing this, but the movie works like this: By calling a higher number of the previously called face (eg. two 4s to three 4s); By calling a higher number of a different face than the previous bid (eg. three 5s to four 2s); or By calling an equal number of a higher face (eg. five 3s to five 5s)) You only win if you correctly name another player as a liar (Eg. Jones naming Bootstrap a liar for calling "twelve 5s", despite there only being seven 5s on the board, 7:08), or if another player incorrectly names you as a liar (Eg. Will being named a liar for calling "five 6s", which was the correct number on the board, 3:27). Lord Ravenscraft has a really good breakdown of the scene from a gameplay and character perspective, I recommend that kzbin.info/www/bejne/imWXfaiuma1jn9k

[@persinitrix]

It's a game subject to many custom rules. Sometimes 1's are wild cards and can function as any other. Theres also an option of calling spot on where if exactly the amount of the most recently declared bet is true every other players lose. Usually I see this game played where everytime a liar is called the losing party loses one of their remaining die. Obviously that too many rules for a movie clip so many of the nuances of the actual game were chopped

[@swguygardner]

Not quite. You bet that there are at least x many dice facing number y, and the next person has to make a different bet, with a ln x equal to or higher than the previous, and/or a different y. If you think that there are few y dice facing up on the table than the x bet the previous player made, you can challenge them by calling them a liar and reveal all the dice. If the bet was over, they lose. If the bet was equal to or under, the challenger loses.

[@pyrus0zero]

It’s not called ‘liars dice’ for no reason. The whole point is to put bluff your opponent.

[@analothor]

@@pyrus0zero how can you bluff if you don't know their dice, that's a guess not a bluff

[@josiahp.6960]

An absolute shame that they cut this short. Any line or frame with Jones is master work and ought to be given the full treatment as such.

[@daikoncash]

3:44 a cool detail is how Davy Jones is both applauding Will for his victory as well as emptying his pipe in one move. Call Jones what you will, man's got style and humility

[@Peaceful_Gojira]

All this game is, for those wondering, is a dice version of Bullsh*t...but the stakes and wagers can be higher BASED off of the number of faces (6 being max faces) and how many of those faces are in play (a max of 15, when there are 3 players, a max of 10 when there are 2 players; 5 dice a person). Example: Will wages five 6's, believing intently based off of Jones's previous bet that he had another 6, making that wager of five 6's true. Jones is thinking 'liar/BS' because of the previous bets of the bluffs. Will bets three 3's, and when he throws out 6s from nowhere, it sends Jones into the doubt he has ANY 6s, when in reality he had one 3 the whole time. Jones gets played good by Will Turner, and reveals HE was bluffing all along. So, the game is very much like Bullsh*t (the card game): you throw out your bets face down into the discard, wagering you had up to 4 of a number/face card. If someone guesses BS on your wager, you take your cards back, AND EVERYTHING beneath it. But if your wager was TRUE, they take your cards and everything beneath it. The objective is to lose your whole hand first to win. The reason this game Liar's Dice is so good is because instead of there being ONLY 4 possibilities in play and trying to lose your hand, there can be over DOUBLE the amount in play (based entirely off of the number of players), and your goal is to make bluff/truthful wagers against your opponent and have them guess WRONG (in either scenario.). If they're wrong about you being truthful in your wager, you win. If you're bluffing and they miss the opportunity, but you call them out on THEIR bluff, you win. But, if you bluff and they call you out on it (like Bootstrap-Bill Turner), you lose. Pretty neat game. I wonder if sailors used to play it, and isn't just some made-up game inspired by other dice games JUST for this scene xD Wouldn't surprise me, actually. Such a cool and underrated scene, IMO, of the entire franchise.

[@DepravedCoTApologist]

It's a real game that's been around for centuries. Some quick Google searches suggest that it was a game sailors would play

[@king_mansamusa7158]

The irony here was that in the end, Jones was right.

[@anakinskywalker2563]

About wills fate or his bid or SEVEN fives?

[@king_mansamusa7158]

@@anakinskywalker2563 about him being married to the Flying Dutchman.

[@ZaddyGohan]

@@anakinskywalker2563 7 fives as well, he got lucky when he bluffed the 4 fours because it forced Will’s hand and he told the truth

[@Kryptkeeper911]

They need to remake these films with the deleted scenes added in. Like what lord of the rings did

[@bloodysimile4893]

It would be extend edition. A remake is reshooting the movie.

[@ROBERTJOHNSON020]

​@@bloodysimile4893close, but actually a reboot is rebooting a movie. A remake is when you make the same move again. You know, re make it.

[@ftxpkuwyaib7y730]

Will could never lose here though, because of his father. I dont see what Davy's plan was the moment Bill joined the table.

[@endertuber8300]

Jones simply could not fathom the possibility that Bootstrap would willingly loose and surrender his just found freedom to an eternity of servitude to save Will...

[@prestonlogan3808]

Hope bill didn't say who went next

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

He could doom either of them to serve the ship forever. Pretty sweet deal

[@NightwolfRainbow6Siege]

4:16 I still love davey’s random little “khwa!”

[@Siptom369]

They should have kept this in

[@samanthapatrick4345]

you could probably find it in the extended version

[@rbrucerye]

"Bootstrap Bill you're a liar and you will spend eternity on this ship!"

[@philipwarlin3888]

I actually find it really interesting that Clanker is the only one that has a more human appearance compared to the other crew members on the Flying Dutchman.

[@aidansalas8389]

I think I read somewhere that that means he’s still somewhat new to the crew and hasn’t been part of the ship that long like bootstrap bill

[@RDS-3]

@@aidansalas8389bootstrap was only on the ship for about 10 years, I think the others have been on way longer considering they were wagering that amount

[@siggyunsichtbar6980]

Which one is clanker again 😅?

[@philipwarlin3888]

@@siggyunsichtbar6980 the one that says “ Down on your Marrow bones, and pray “ earlier.

[@dr.bright6272]

0:32 Two Head in the background casually eating something from his brother's chest

[@BeanyUndead]

This scene is amazing...the sounds, the lighting, everything.

[@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite]

I play Liar's dice since 2019 and only now I realize that Bootstrap could have upped the bid to eight sixes. In the worst case, he would have still lost without making it too obvious. It would have even worked if Jones had a pair of sixes in his hand and ones counted as wild.

[@Just_a-guy]

At that point everyone knew what is in the table (this is why Jones said welcome with Will bet eight 5s). Bootstrap basically said "i had five fives the whole time" to ad salt into it and make sure Jones will call him Liar and not Will (not certain if they can call someone not from their round liar)

[@redhood2054]

Plus in the commentary they make it clear the rule is aces aren't wilds

[@manuel1846inla1]

I like how the second Will challenged Jones, the entire crew immediately stopped what they were doing and looked at him. 0:43 really goes to show how ballsy such a choice was to make.

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

Where are my Director's Cuts of the Pirates movies? This and the "People aren't cargo" scenes need to be in the movies.

[@Elyk91388]

If Will would have called Jones a liar on his 4 fours bid, he would have won the key

[@salvadorgiron5527]

He coulnt win otherwise davy woul,d kill him he just needed to know where the key was to steal it later

[@hotcauldron7918]

You are right, but they would still be on Jones's ship. They might be free but it doesn't mean Jones won't kill them

[@wombatyoo1600]

That would never happen, with three people in the game it is way to common to see 4 fours, and if you call that out it makes it seem like you have some. This game went exactly as it should

[@bmobmo6438]

Even if that wasn't the dumbest, riskiest move Will could make, there's exactly nothing stopping Jones from just killing him and taking it back.

[@turkishjanitor3666]

*Throws a drawing of the key back at Will, proceeds to leave*

[@midnightzgamer20k]

Why didn't bootstrap turn back to normal as soon as he was free is what I wanna know

[@jaycee2040]

I think their appearance is due to the influence of Davey Jones. Like Calypso stated later he corrupted his original purpose: to guide fallen seaman to the afterlife. Even though Bootstrap was freed, Davey Jones did not drop that "illusion" appearance, if we were to give it a name. *Spoiler below, if you haven't seen all the movies yet* When Will becomes the next captain of the Dutchman, you see all the crew immediately lose their sea creature appearance, which leads me to believe that's one of abilities granted among unknown others. Will obliviously has a different outlook than Jones.

[@mylezzpurhourr]

The music in the background is just soul stirring and beautiful dub to the origan

[@kingston4313]

I like how fair the squid man was. Like, ‘you won, boy. Dont ruin it’

[@A.l.tecchz]

"I choose my own fate" Then it wouldn't be fate..would it.

[@treymagathan847]

I really wish that the "Spot on!" rule was a part of this match. For those unaware, if a player believes that someone's bet is spot on (and it's his turn), he can say so, and if he's right, everyone else loses a die. If he's wrong, he loses 2 dice. Obviously, since this is an all-in round, Will would have won outright.

[@widmo206]

If everybody looses, wouldn't that mean he'd condemn Bootstrap to an eternity of service?

[@ZaddyGohan]

@@widmo206 no, just means jones loses. They aren’t playing the rules where you go down until all the die are gone, they’re only playing one round

[@bass-dc9175]

Bootstraps move was brilliant. Because you can only accuse someone of living on their turn. He entered the game in such a way that Jones can never accuse his son of living, only bootstrap himself. In essence: the game was rigged from the start.

[@marcforte2001]

How do they cut this scene? Davy Jones reaction to his loss added so much depth to his character.

[@joewhitehead3]

For the sake of the runtime, I’m guessing

[@JohnSmith-vk9ds]

@@joewhitehead3 From what I have read elsewhere, it had less to do with runtime, but because one of the other producers--either Chad Oman or Peter Kohn--that felt that showing Davy Jones lose a dice game to Will would make him seem incompetent. I commented the same thing above a while ago, but if there's anything in that movie that was left in that makes Jones seem incompetent it's Will Turner sneaking up on him in his sleep and comically lifting his tentacle beard to swipe the key from it. There's so many other places where you could cut 3 and a half minutes if runtime was the primary concern.

[@GlitchyHalo]

@@JohnSmith-vk9ds from being all octopus head davy jones has some seriously good neck muscles for him to sleep upright also man doesn’t have a bed 😭 Also he clearly wakes up when his tentacle accidentally hits the organ but somehow doesn’t notice will even though his eyes are fully open and he just falls back asleep after hearing the music box

[@Ram875]

Davy Jones is such a great character. Visually and emotionally.

[@hopemolefe4900]

Bootstrap Bill, you are a liar and you will spend an eternity on this Ship! "

[@GlitchyHalo]

“Master Turner, feel free to go to shore…the very next time we make port!” **laughs**

[@cjkalandek996]

The extended part(s) are admittedly unnecessary, but it does kinda hit a bit harder knowing Will had actually won his father's freedom before that was stripped away almost immediately.

[@Mustang-wt1se]

It also explains why Jones was so surprised, he didn’t expect Bill to throw away his freedom as soon as he got it

[@ulfberht4431]

Why is this scene in particular unnecessary? To me it adds more development to Davy Jones’s cunningness and psychopathy, as well as his particular philosophy of how he can both manipulate a person and make them feel inferior because of how much he relishes in their desperation. It’s that level of villainy that you don’t see often. If they left that in, then it would’ve made Davy Jones 10x more badass and cool than he already is. It also adds more on how Liar Dice is actually played, at least this version of it. The theatrical cut only gives a brief understanding of the game, which is a shame because liar dice in the real world is actually very fun. I’d say it was necessary to add drama to Will’s desperation, extended Davy Jones’s personality and gave a bit of rules to a very underrated game.

[@pyromania1018]

In the novelization, when Will issues his challenge, Jones just teleports to that spot and says, "Accepted."

[@aceca5147]

02:20 oh my god haha I only just noticed he's using his beard to hold the pipe 😄

[@Galacticavatar]

Is every little wager enforced by magic or a curse? Even if Will had lost the second game, what would have stopped him from just leaving anyway?

[@mileskessler2905]

It's not magic, just honor. Once you've cast your dice, leaving is cowardice. You see the hand through or no one will interact with you. At least in the movie, irl people forgive(mostly).

[@mileskessler2905]

Sorry, that was vague. In the movie, the stakes of the game(lives pledged to servitude, the key to a demigod's(Davy Jones) weak spot) make backing out impossible. To do so would mean Jones (who technically as the captain "owns" the crew) would make Will's life hell, or kill him for breaking his word. In real life of course dice is just a game and means nothing.

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

“Once you’ve sworn an oath to the Dutchman there’s no leaving it”

[@le_souverainiste_francais7420]

For those who didn't get the joke. The curse of the Flying Dutchman is to never make port and sail on the seas for eternity.

[@le_souverainiste_francais7420]

@@GlitchyHalo That's the curse from the movie. But the curse of the Flying Dutchman is to never make port again.

[@sealstorm1935]

It's strange how my favourite Pirates of the Caribbean scene does not feature Captain Jack Sparrow.

[@vxrgo2680]

04:14 that sassy turn-around

[@spinlok3943]

So I can understand why this scene was cut down. Even in the theatrical cut, the pacing of the movie is quite slow and this would've slowed it down even further. But MY GOSH everything in this scene is so good. So much good Davy Jones material and fantastic CGI. Ugh it must've been agonizing for them to cut. I still think it would've been worth leaving in.

[@JohnSmith-vk9ds]

I can easily think of 6 minutes elsewhere in Dead Man's Chest that I would have cut for length before this scene, so it wasn't about pacing or run time. Allegedly, it was one of the producer's that wanted this cut down because they felt that showing Jones lose a game of dice to Will would make him seem incompetent. Frankly, I think this scene does the opposite, and that if anything in that film makes Jones look incompetent it's Will turner sneaking up on him in his sleep and comically lifting up his beard tentacle with a wooden dip pen that he holds steady in his teeth to grab the key from underneath it.

[@GlitchyHalo]

Also we barely get davy jones in this serious and calm voice it’s mostly him talking in a booming and exaggerated Scottish accent

[@keithwestmeyer8823]

It's still one of the best scenes in all of the Pirates Of The Caribbean movies It'll never be matched again

[@tricknolte3222]

What did he mean by "Master Turner feel free to go a shore,the very next time we make port? I don't understand what he meant by that?

[@Camel-from-Arabia]

Because he won his freedom, it was Bill who loose game.

[@HeyItsNate]

because the Flying Dutchman (the ship they're on) only ports every 10 years. So he has to wait 10 years before leaving the ship onto land, unless he finds another boat to escape to which he does in the movie.

[@Sylvia-t1f]

The Dutchman never makes port. He's mocking Will by saying that even though he is technically free still since Bill sacrificed himself, it doesn't matter because Jones holds all the cards and there's no way to escape him.

[@poisonpotato1]

I understand why this was cut. If his dad is free than there's no motivation for will to get the key right?

[@Mustang-wt1se]

He wanted to know where it was and was willing to lose. It also explains why Jones was so surprised, he didn’t expect Bill to throw away his new freedom

[@G_Kchrst]

Yeah but without the key he could not save Elizabeth from hanging so it still makes sence to go for the key. He goes for everything and the Devil bests him, this is why it makes sense.

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

There are plenty more reasons to keep this in instead of the cannibal nonsense (even if it was somewhat fun)

[@davidnieves5561]

7:37 when he laughs Just when you think Blackbeard and Salazar were evil

[@TheOtterHero13456]

Davy jones: Bootstrap bill your a liar and you will send eternity on this ship 🚢

[@ryanslauderdale]

I prefer the way the directors did it. Why would Will have a second game? The debt he was "sent to settle" is Sparrow's problem. The whole point of Will staying on the Dutchman was to free his father, and he did that with the first game in this video. Will hadn't declared his 100 years before the mast, so he can go free at this point. Why look for the key? It makes Will look like a badly written character.

[@bachpham6862]

Will needs Jack Sparrow's compass to free Elizabeth. He wanted the key to barter for it with Jack.

[@LonelyStardefender]

the tragedy of this scene was those last 2 lines...bill really thought will wanted the key,when in reality ,will only wanted to know where it was and later pull a jack sparrow and scape with it anyway but then again,jack said it best "im a dishonest person,you can count on me being dishonest...its an honest person you should be weary of,theyre always down to do something stupid"

[@brycebaileyakadarthomega1067]

Can anyone explain to me how exactly this game works? I know it's by deception, but how are you supposed to win Highest number the better deception Is there a rule book?

[@michaellorah9051]

With this context, Bill saying "its your turn captain" has extra bite. He was already free to go. By continuing to call Jones "Captain" the way he did, Bill showed his hand. Jones knew this, too. Bill was rigging the game against Jones, but Jones was still (in a way) winning.

[@MadeofSteel6896]

I never saw this version. This is better in my opinion and should have been kept in the film.

[@Froggyman145]

Will's actually pretty smart here. He understands that although Davy Jones is far from human anymore, he has no reason to suspect he can change the dice at will, and since nobody would DARE challenge Davy Jones himself, he's likely well out of practice/inexperienced, leaving them equally matched.

[@MitchellBPYao]

"I accept, Mate"

[@sectorgovernor]

Baron Harkonnen just call your nephews, army and space ships. You will be free.

[@MasterSkippy117]

I'm surprised no one is talking about Will actually winning that key

[@danielcapela1246]

I admit that i'm divided: for one I lovr the movie the way it came out. But after watching this, I also wish they kept it in the film. This scene alone explores better the characters personality and, honestly, i don't think it takes away anything from the movie as a while. Too bad the dvd doesn't have the option of watching the theatrical version or the one with the deleted scenes...

[@danielandres1579]

Davy Jones inquiring on Wills cause to play the game being a woman (Elizabeth) and Will retorting with "if you choose the right woman", knowing Jones' history with Calypso is such good writing

[@Sky26s]

Bro won his dad's freedom then wanted to play again

[@Avoxalus]

I really did not notice how good of a movie this was when i was a kid. Young me was just hyped for pirate battles and Keira Knightley lol

[@robbymayer5987]

Honestly one of the best scenes in cinema history, shame they cut it.

[@joshuanixon795]

What would've made this better ID if Bootstraps body would've became normal, and went back after he lost. But still a good sene.

[@natej1026]

Bill Nighy was seriously the most amazing actor in these films.

[@realcokejam]

"Ya can't beat the devil twice, son." "Then why are you walking away?" Imagine the theater going "OOOOOOH!!!" if they kept this scene in.

[@Jayrojo115]

Of all the scenes that were cut. This one should not have been one of them

[@gayetrideb9096]

"What a man is willing to risk, or not to risk, that's a measure of his soul". What a powerful line.

[@-_-JimmyKay-_-]

I love the fact that Davy Jones calls Will Master Turner

[@shaneokeley825]

Liar's Dice game is very impressive

[@hawkjay1134]

0:00-0:45 listening to that organ would make my slow and painful transformation into a hellish sea creature abomination slightly more tolerable

[@TheUndyingCrystal]

I love his facial expression when he says that it had to be a woman making Will this desperate. The little cheeky eyebrow wiggle, like "yeah I'm right, aren't I?" He's teasing Will, but at the same time you can tell that he knows exactly what that's like and gets it. Almost a shared moment of bonding over what Jones views as the worst thing in his life: love.

[@jacoposangiorgi1646]

Four fours i love the delivery of the line

[@DeadhunterThe]

A good comeback to "You can't best the Devil twice." would've been something along the lines of, "You're not the Devil, Jones. You're just one of his slaves."

[@cm958]

Actually explains why Bootstrap was able to match his wager of his soul and an enternity of servitude in the theatrical release. I quite enjoyed the scene.

[@TidusX16]

Almost 20 years later and I still have no idea how the hell the rules of this game work.

[@vekai3964]

I highly recommend Lord ravenscraft's video on it, he does a good job breaking down the rules and explaining this scene

[@terrybrown5402]

They should have put this in the movie. It made way more sense to the story

[@RJKilroy]

Imagine how fucking sick it would’ve been to see Davey Jones say “seven fives” and then Will counters with “Spot-on”. The rest of the movie would’ve still involved the race against the Dutchman, except Davy Jones’ emotional investment in the stakes would be in a lot more interesting context (The devil’s been bested twice and now he’s absolutely pissed). I would’ve had the major twist be that Will actually succeeds in stabbing the heart, unbeknownst to the fact that that now makes him the de facto captain of the Flying Dutchman. Then the third movie could be about finding a way to break the curse completely, while Will struggles with his role as captain and his crew begins to grapple with the prospect of losing their immortality permanently. I’m now angry that we don’t live in the timeline where this series was written like that.

[@cap-ml7ky]

i like this better cause besides the final battle, i didnt really like the 3rd movie.

[@jahscnviv]

I prefer the original

[@crippledcrusader1321]

4:06 The way he says that, that’s experience talking right there

[@doriondouglas6176]

I understand it doesn't directly forward the story but it builds so much charecter tension and stakes. They really should have kept this scene

[@akshaytrayner1960]

Great edit mate

[@crispybacon9917]

It's hilarious when the music cuts on and off again