Pivot Trail 429 V3 - All About Bikes

[@jobytapia6388]

This video had exactly the information I was looking for...I'm almost exactly Chris' size (5'10½" with 34" inseam) and usually ride the same size he does. I was agonizing over ordering a size medium T429v3 because the reach was closer to the midpoint between my 429T (L) and Firebird (M). When Chris described what terrain he prefers riding the medium on, I was glad I ordered that size as that is the majority of the riding here on the side of Mt. Tam in Marin. Excellent technical interview.

[@mihailo1981]

Im 180cm and I ride Les in M. Should I buy M or L new 429?

[@xeratube]

@@mihailo1981 Medium, IMO.

[@jobytapia6388]

Update - I built both a M and L at the shop and the L felt much better (roomier cockpit). Had to change my order.

[@KoreyConstable]

@@jobytapia6388 Thanks for the update. I'm in the same position myself- 5'10 3/4, 31 inseam. I had a large built and am awaiting the medium to be built so I can compare both.

[@jobytapia6388]

@@KoreyConstable I ended up going with a L...I work p/t at a top 10 Pivot dealer and had a day where I built identical spec T429s in both M and L. I couldn't get the stock seat post high enough on the M and it ended up feeling a little cramped w/o changing the stem. In the end, the L with a 45 stem and 175mm dropper felt perfect for me.

[@davewallace9048]

Still waiting for you guys to start selling frame only.. In the past I had no problem buying a frame!!! I enjoy building my bikes exactly the way I want them.. when you start selling frames only again I’ll buy one!!

[@gregoryvierra6114]

I’m 6’5” so there was little debating which size to get. I ended up with an XL XT/XTR Pro and totally love the bike.

[@senglebe]

Absolutely still loving my V2 Trail 429. Thinking about getting the Switchblade or Firebird in the future for this bike trips and bike park days. For mostly riding trails in Michigan and Indiana my V2 has been amazing. Couldn't ask for a better biker honestly. My riding buddy has the V3 and it's equally as amazing. Fantastic job Pivot.

[@Dougsmithe]

Dang! I had convinced myself I didn’t need to upgrade from my current Trail 429. After hearing them talk about the Fox Live and lighter frame, I think I’ll be calling the bike shop on the morning.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Get your order in! You wont regret it!

[@yaya40321]

Well done, can't wait to ride it!

[@pivotcyclesusa]

You and me both!

[@MrSpot20]

Nice bike for sure. +1 for moto-style friendly cable ports! Frame-only happening anytime soon? .. I have tons of parts.

[@fastfish666]

great to see lighter frame and 2 ports on the right for us poms/limeys running left-brake-rear :-)

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Yes indeed!

[@texjunglist]

Getting my axs build this weekend. I am excited to ride a 130mm bike. Had a specialized camber 120 . Liked it but its time too get yhe bike i really want.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Awesome choice! You are gonna love it!

[@jmard24]

I think I might be one of the few that didn’t care about the weight. Never felt it on the trail and put a ton of miles on the v2 and still felt great afterwards. Got a lot of prs on the v2 over the lighter weight v1 trail. With carbon wheels and Michelin tires I’m at 30.5 lbs size large and it feels perfect. Loving the new look though

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Thanks! Glad you are charging hard on your V2!

[@jmard24]

@@pivotcyclesusa still gonna get a v3. I have an addiction. But im going to wait because you guys always cook up a special edition. I just missed it last time

[@centroelettricitaspinea3422]

Another masterpiece. #ridePivot

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Thanks!

[@corlessryan]

Hey! I know that guy! Haha Awesome bike, amazing work team! Now I've had a taste... I must have one!

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Yes you do!

[@deanopatoni]

Me too !!

[@nicholasdudas9588]

There's a Portillo's in Arizona?

[@tomtran9442]

Wonder if SID Ultimate fork and shock would be a good option for this bike.

[@juandepedro8143]

That Sid only runs at 120 right?

[@tomtran9442]

@@juandepedro8143 yes it’s 120mm max

[@stevensms772]

Pivot! I currently have the Trail 429 V2. and extremely happy with it. I’m highly considering and narrowing to the Trail 429 Enduro Build V3. Any recommendations between the trail and enduro builds? Thank you

[@erikjorgenson6806]

I’m not Pivot! But I demoed the Enduro yesterday. The Grip2 36 is awesome! I wish they offered the trail build with a grip damper.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

If you are looking for one bike that can take on aggressive trail to light enduro-type terrain, while also being comfortable pedaling all day, the Trail 429 with the Enduro suspension spec is hard to beat. And it will be a noticeable boost in descending confidence with the progressive geometry.

[@davelogan77]

I just bought this Bike, w00t w00t!

[@norcalchrismeister]

Hi, I'm 6'2.5" and 220 lbs (34" inseam) and am wondering if large 429 would be good for me. I normally ride XL bikes but was thinking this bike in a large might be more fun to flick around.

[@seandooley4881]

Is the 26.5lbs quoted for a medium Team XTR build, correct? After watching the Flow MTB review it said the medium Team XTR setup tubeless with no pedals was 27.3lbs?

[@pivotcyclesusa]

The 26.5lbs is the correct weight according to our scale. There is always some variability in weight from frame set to frame set, and the same applies to the parts bolted to it.

[@seandooley4881]

@@pivotcyclesusa Ok thanks, I wasn’t sure if the ones you sent out for review were maybe early production units that were heavier since there is close to a one pound difference between the 26.5lb reported here and the 27.3lb reported by Bicycling and Flow review articles for the same stock Team XTR bike.

[@erikwright92]

@@seandooley4881 I picked up a Pro XT/XTR build size large with the DT Swiss wheelset, and with pedals it was 28.7lbs

[@joshrlc]

Just got a XT/XTR Pro build in Large. Using my bathroom scale it came in at 29 lbs without pedals. I have to say I was hoping it'd be closer to the 28 lb mark.

[@seandooley4881]

@@joshrlc Was this weight for a non-enduro model with the stock tubes and aluminum wheel set?

[@superdukerandy]

6'0 with a 31" inseam @210 lbs. Thinking that I'm firmly on a large frame enduro build ?

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Based on those numbers, we would recommend starting with a large Trail.

[@tomtran9442]

Please make it in green like the switchblade 😍

[@pivotcyclesusa]

The Switchblade and Shuttle already use that color, so we chose some different ones for the new Trail.

[@Iliketoboard]

Portillos! Big Beef dipped with hot peppers!!!

[@prr665]

Question: If a rider is in between size medium and large and chooses to size up; what stem length would be recommended? Also, what stem length comes with the bike?

[@terrybest3700]

55mm comes with both the new size L and M. Same thing is happening for me, Steve. Been expecting a 'v2' L which I fit perfectly on. Now I'm not sure which size to go with! Right in between L and M for me too.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Steve - It truly depends on the dimensions of the rider and their riding style. Depending in the rider's proportions, sizing up and using a super short stem could work, but it's not a clean cut solution for every rider. We recommend that you visit your local Pivot Dealer to throw a leg over one, send an email to [e-mail], or jump onto a live chat with our CSR team to get immediate feedback on sizing.

[@watsonlee6798]

Why is it that this trail 429 comes with the reynolds wheels but the switchblade doesn't?

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Partially that is due to the fact we liked the performance of the DT Swiss XMC1501 carbon wheels under the Switchblade chassis, and partially due to supply issues due to COVID-19 at the time we launched the Switchblade. The Reynolds Blacklabel 309/289 wheels are crazy light for a trail wheelset, which is why we spec'd them on the Trail, but might not be the best suited for a dedicated, hard-use, enduro/all-mountain bike like the Switchblade.

[@jeffcorraini5233]

After watching plenty of reviews on this bike I am still a bit undecided on size. I am 5'-10 1/2" tall at 180lbs riding weight. I am leaning towards the medium although all of my other bikes have been size large. Any thoughts on the size I should choose. Thank you.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

We'd suggest going to our website and jumping on a chat with our Customer Service Team. Determining fit can depend on alot of factors, but ultimately it is your preference on what you want to ride. If you prefer a longer, more stable ride, you may consider sizing up. But if you prefer a snappy, quicker handling bike, sizing down might be a better option for you.

[@Geno_671]

@@pivotcyclesusa would shortening the stem to a 40 give the same snappiness as being on a meduim?

[@pivotcyclesusa]

@@Geno_671 in general, a shorter stem will make your bike steering a little faster. However, if you go too short, it could affect other aspects of your fit, such as potentially change your weight distribution over the bike.

[@mac8472]

What is a v2 and v3? I have asked many people for this information but no-one knows, I am 5'4" with an inseam of 32" and a short torso, would l ride a small or medium size bike?

[@pivotcyclesusa]

V2 is referring to the previous generation of Trail 429. It had a more horizontal top tube mounted shock and was phased out once we introduced the Trail 429 V3 in Feb of 2021, which is discussed here. Regarding sizing, at your height and proportions, we would recommend looking at a Small or even an X-Small. You could go either way depending on how you fit on each size.

[@handoferebus]

26.5lb for the standard, do we have a known weight of the enduro build?

[@carlamerrill2917]

My friend and I Want this bike but am having an incredibly difficult time getting my hands on a small. Shops are quoting me they have no idea when a small will come in or December??!!! Can you help a couple of middle aged ladies out?

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Carla, we are stoked to hear you want this bike and we want to see you and your friend on one. The challenge we and many other companies in the bike industry are facing is the unprecedented strain on the global supply chain affecting all of our component vendors, combined with the extremely high demand for all things bikes right now. We are doing our best to keep our shops informed of lead times and related changes. Our best suggestion is if you are certain you want a Trail, place your order with your local Pivot dealer so it reserves your fulfillment slot and be patient. We are fulfilling orders as fast as possible on a "first in, first out" basis. If you have any further questions, you can always call our office or jump on a chat through our website.

[@pinger530]

Almost the perfect bike! The only wish I have is if you guys make an e-bike version of it. Like the Orbea Rise or Specialized Turbo Levo SL. This would be an amazing long ride trail e bike! For the enduro yep riding you have the Shuttle. An “eTrail 429” would be great for the trail riding side of things! I’m a long time Pivot owner. Would love to add this to my stable and would definitely add an eTrail 429 if you made one! I love that you guys take into consideration shorter riders. I’m 5’5” with a short inseam and it’s hard finding a men’s bike that has enough to stand over and still has the reach and travel. Especially in a 29er! Thanks!

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Thanks! Our team is always working on new projects. An e-bike version of the Trail would be a fun addition to the line.

[@pinger530]

Yes! That would be a a dream come true and a bike I would definitely get! Crossing my fingers 😁

[@TheArsenalGoonship]

Does anyone (who isn't sponsored), actually order any bike with Fox Live Valve?

[@gherrera6665]

I ordered my first 27.5 the 2021 Pivot Mach 6 a few weeks ago with the live valve it should be here soon hopefully 😥 should be great. I also ordered a Santa cruz which I have to wait longer with the Fox float x2 so hopefully I'll see/feel the difference.

[@deathbringr124]

Let’s bring black or battleship grey back. I need to bring my parts over to my new frame and those colors make more sense for bulk majority

[@pivotcyclesusa]

We'll certainly be cycling in new colors as time goes on, but these first two look awesome in person.

[@AceGoodheart]

I kinda like the blue color on this bike. Silver isn't too bad either. I like that Thermite Red on Canyon bikes. I think that would look good on a Pivot. I have a feeling I'm gonna be selling my 2021 Trek Supercaliber GX for a Pivot T429 within the year.

[@dansburns]

I would buy one if you guys made it in the same green as the Switchblade. ;-)

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Tempting, but we can't make every bike that color.

[@dansburns]

@@pivotcyclesusa I don't see why not. You used to paint every bike that blue color. Just saying. ;-)

[@josephcain5648]

I demo’d the v2 429 a few weeks ago and found the xl to fit me really well, while the xl switchblade seemed a hair on the large side. Would you recommend the v3 in a L or XL? Do you have a full size fleet at the Phoenix shop that one could sit on? I just ordered the 429 xl enduro version based on my demo ride, but now I’m a little worried about it being too large.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

First, for sizing advice, we'd recommend you contact our office or start a chat on our website with our Customer Service team who can make a proper size recommendation based on your fit details. Second, regarding our in-house demo fleet, due to inventory levels, we have not been able to add the Trail to our available demo bikes. However, we do have one medium on display in our lobby.

[@brucehumphries6889]

I’d like to see a review of this bike by an XC racer/rider whose punching up in lieu of the Enduro/DH riders punching down. Need to see when a guy or gal takes this bike out for an epic day over all types of areas.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Pivot Riders Kait Boyle and Kurt Refsnider are currently building their Trails up for ultra endurance events, so their perspective might be useful. Check their Instagram feeds or message them directly for their feedback. Also, Taylor Lideen is building up his Enduro spec'd Trail to be his big travel fun bike when he isnt training to dominate events like UNBOUND Gravel XL.

[@brucehumphries6889]

@@pivotcyclesusa I’d like to build one to match my Mach4SL to have the longer travel marathon bike that I can switch back and forth without any issue. That’s my thought anyway.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

@@brucehumphries6889 In concept, you could build the Trail with a Fox Factory 34 Step Cast 120mm fork. However, I'm not entirely sure how greatly that will affect the fit and handling since it will drop the front end by ~10mm. We'd definitely suggest you call our office or jump on our website for a chat with our CSR team so they can possibly better answer your question(s) in more detail.

[@brucehumphries6889]

@@pivotcyclesusa I would keep the 130 up front and just make sure all the touch points match. It’s light enough on its own. Go anywhere, so just about anything….just about.

[@ericherbst3557]

A aluminum frame in the future??

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Not at this time.

[@RonTamondong]

He sure likes Portillo’s hot dogs.

[@pivotcyclesusa]

And Coke Zero

[@MrTrav36]

Same head angle as the switchblade ?? the switchblade should be 65.5 ?/65 !!

[@pivotcyclesusa]

Looking at head tube angles, the Trail and Switchblade share similar angles (for a particular setting), but if you look at the rest of the geo numbers, travel numbers, and the spec of both bikes, you realize they are very different siblings of the same Pivot family. By applying that steeper/longer/slacker progressive geo seen on the Switchblade to the Trail, we created a mid-travel 29er bike with the stability and confident handling of a bigger enduro/all-mountain bike but in a much lighter, snappier trail package. We highly encourage you to visit your local Pivot dealer and throw a leg over the Trail before judging it solely on the numbers listed on a geo chart.