Alice in Wonderland - NNRG Week 51

[@TheOnlyToblin]

This was surprisingly well made and deep for a C64 game. I'm impressed.

[@XanthinZarda]

There's a Let's Play of this on the LP Archive, and this game is really rather manic. It's both a timed mission and an adventure game though and though with softlocks, dead ends, and progression blocks all the way though.

[@Pixelmusement]

So... typical 80s adventure game format. :P

[@JsbWalker]

I love that LP so much, it makes this game look so charming

[@XanthinZarda]

@@Pixelmusement Well, yes. But the thing is, you can escape in as few as 3 days, or run the clock out after 50 days. So there's indeed a variety of ways to go about it all.

[@ATippingBarn]

I really enjoyed Paw Dugan’s playthrough of this.

[@Christopher-N]

I appreciate it when adventure games are snarky with the player; the comedy makes it a more enjoyable experience.

[@Pixelmusement]

Depending. I would say for most adventure games it's fine, but if you're trying to maintain a particular mood then that kind of snark can end up pulling you out of the mood of the game, reducing immersion. :P

[@jasonblalock4429]

I think it works in this case, since the characters in Wonderland can be pretty snarky, and Alice has a sharp tongue herself. I kind of love that her options include tease, argue, and scold, which definitely fits her character.

[@SEGAClownboss]

This game looks sick, I tend to follow lots of C64 games but I never saw this one. It's really creative and deep, intuitive to use, and doesn't seem to be needlessly cruel in either puzzles or action. This legitemately could be a top 5 games on the platform material.

[@stripedhyenuh]

This looks to be a sort of spiritual successor to Below The Root, an adventure game by the same developer and publisher released a year prior.

[@yopachi]

The sid chip "woooosh" when a character is falling makes c64 version just a little more vibey

[@brynnplant]

Wow, this is kind of impressive. They had something going here. It's amazing what people can do even with the limitations of old hardware, when a game has real care put into it it almost doesn't matter. Thanks for showcasing this one.

[@RoninCatholic]

The White Rabbit telling you that you're too big for the rabbit hole while himself being bigger than you, hahaha.

[@panutalus]

well, rabbits are fluffy, not fat. You would be amazed to see where they can fit themselves out X3

[@jasonblalock4429]

I realize the C64 had very limited graphics, but I feel like turning Wonderland into a series of claustrophobic caverns wasn't the best design choice. It looks like Alice is travelling through a cottagecore termite mound.

[@MM.]

This isn't representative of what the C64 could do, see late 80s games onward, some of which had multiple layer parallax scrolling. It's more akin to a phoned-in ZX Spectrum conversion.

[@Jigglysaint]

I played this game at school when I was a child. I did managed to beat it on emulator much later on though. Very nostalgic actually. It's actually a pretty good sized game for its time.

[@P9HL2BETA]

American McGee probably looked at this and said "it needs more trauma, blood and gore!"

[@Your_Degenerate]

Alice in Outworld. Fall down the rabbit hole and face Scorpion, Sub-Zero and many other foes in order to make your way back home.

[@negirno]

And an extra dimension.

[@stefanfriedt3450]

Or It must be more like Alice in Chains.

[@TheGerkuman]

Random thoughts: •Reverend Charles Dodgeson = Lewis Caroll. For those who did not know. •I used to hate getting comfits in mixed selection of sweets (candy) because I'd always mistake them for jellybeans. •I was surprised that it used the term 'candy'. We'd use the word sweets, or in those days, confectionary.

[@retroinspect]

Nothing surprising, Windham the developer is USA based.

[@GhostPurple69]

i really like the presentation here has the vibe of an early 2010s indie game

[@ianeborn6823]

That was a remarkably and surprisingly charming game! And with a surprising amount of depth! Not to mention quite a good handling of its limited palette, I feel! ^_^

[@bluekewne]

A child falling down a hole into a magical land of creatures? Surprised there wasn't any cinnamon butterscotch pie or a talking flower down there :P

[@Pixelmusement]

I mean... the source material does get SURPRISINGLY close... The Disney movie has a bunch of talking flowers and a quick bit of research shows that the original book mentions pie-crust, though not a proper pie, and tarts made with pepper, whereby tarts are really just tiny pies. :B

[@cryomancer199X]

So this dev seems to have went on to work on many CD-i games, including a new version of this. So I guess maybe this game was influential to Laser Lords as well since they were quite similar. And maybe the CD-i Zelda games. Neat.

[@dinitroacetylen]

"«You have nothing.» Metaphor for life." Yeah, why life can't be more like games in ways that are actually good? Like going to full health by just picking up a box of medicine?

[@PlayStationPaul]

If you've ever had liquorice allsorts, you've had a comfit. Edit: actually, make that "likely" had a comfit, allowing for regional differences.

[@Pixelmusement]

I've never seen comfits in any of the liquorice allsorts I've ever had, and I've had quite a bit over the years... Probably dumb-luck that I've never run into them after all these years. :o

[@PlayStationPaul]

@@Pixelmusement You might be right. Before posting, I could have sworn they were in allsorts, but looking them up now, they're nowhere to be seen. Guess I'm having my own confectionary based Mandela effect.

[@thewiirocks]

Looking at some photos on the internet, Comfit looks a lot like the Good & Plenty candies I love.

[@urbynwyldcat9131]

Google search seems to suggest they are liquorice torpedoes which are super tasty! Always like to have a stash handy.

[@Cihl280777]

Also, Alice in Videoland is a very interesting game as well. :)

[@redrum0127]

curiouser and curiouser...

[@solsticeprojekt1937]

CrouchWalk. You mean ... crawling? :D

[@Pixelmusement]

I mean, those are technically not the same thing, but then looking closely at what Alice is doing here in the game, yes, she is "crawling" not "crouch walking". :P

[@BrixTalk]

Isn't Lewis Carroll the author of the novel?

[@Pixelmusement]

Yep! :B

[@ShiroTheSniper]

Let's hope Alice will never learn French from her sister. I'm French Canadian and "gigot" is never use to describe a "living" animal like the mutton (sheep). It ia used to describe a cut of meat, I think it's a shank (of lamb). She's literally saying "this lamb shank is happy".

[@Pixelmusement]

Given the source material here, MAYBE IT IS! :B

[@TheMoogleMaster]

I'm guessing this isn't based on the Disney version. The graphics look like Jet Set Willie.

[@I.____.....__...__]

Um, ViewMasters are not from "very olden times" and are still being sold today. Kris thinks of an antique item before he thinks of a common contemporary child's toy? 🤨 Curiouser and curiouser. 🤔

[@Pixelmusement]

I know what a ViewMaster is, heck I had one as a kid. But that's NOT what the game identified, it identified a Stereopticon, which a quick search shows is a 19th-century device, often confused with a Stereoscope, which was the device I was actually thinking of in that moment, notably what you see as the second image down on the Wikipedia page for them! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscope