Plane Can't Land Because Landing Gear Won't Come Out

[@HikingBob]

I'm a former USAF ARFF firefighter. A couple of things...the spotter was saying he would expect that the brakes would be hosed down, since he thought they were on fire. They weren't on fire, although they were likely very hot. It was standard procedure to NOT apply water to hot brakes, since the thermal shock of the cold water on hot brakes could cause them to shatter (explode, if you will) causing all sorts of additional problems (shrapnel into the wings and fuel tanks, tires exploding and causing gear to collapse, etc etc ). Typically, we would have the aircraft stay where it was until the brakes cooled down on their own. Of course, if the brakes were indeed on fire, then all bets are off, and there would have been agent applied as needed. And, using the turret nozzles (not cannons) that are both on the roof and the bumper of the apparatus, is a blast! Kelsey, if you stop into an ARFF station and tell them you're a pilot, I'll bet you can get them to take you out in a truck and play with the turrets. They probably won't let you shoot foam (it's expensive), but I'll bet they let you shoot all the water you want.

[@DRV-mt5dd]

LOL, go shoot the water cannon Kelsey!

[@caprica_13]

As a pilot myself, I don't know why this never occurred to me. Heading over to the ARFF station on my next day off! Maybe if I buy them pizza they'll let me play with the trucks

[@m2hmghb]

It's never a bad idea to make a good impression on the guys and gals who might save your ass. @@caprica_13

[@BeeWhistler]

This is adorable. Also, I’m a little pleased with myself because I guessed a few things right on this video, including the fact that they’d spray the brakes with some foam agent rather than water. I feel like water hitting friction heat would end poorly; I must have heard something somewhere to that effect since I’m not remotely in any related career.

[@SIXPACFISH]

And Yeah, you're gonna get wet!

[@eldoolittle]

"If the gear had a problem in Vegas, they would stay in Vegas." I see what you did there.

[@danielabackstrom]

Lol

[@cloudsofsunset7323]

😂😂

[@thriftyoutdoorsman7860]

"they" does not fly because your alleged 'gear' has a single problem. 9-stars tho you're less of a loser than me. hold on i'ma F5 my life!

[@PhD63]

On this aircraft type the gear doors stay extended after an alternate gear extension (free fall). This is because no hydraulics are involved in an alternate gear extension and therefore no hydraulics available to retract the doors.

[@marialilahl3217]

That's what I thought with a free fall gear extension. Thank you.

[@miken8143]

Thanks. I wondered about that.

[@aeroman5239]

The 757 Alt Ext System uses an electric motor to release the uplocks and allow the doors and gear to free-fall to the down position via gravity when the main hydraulics fail.

[@ailivac]

Yep. Usually the doors will stay open because the normal hydraulics are disconnected allowing everything to "gravity drop," and the down locks are designed to always automatically engage without power once the wheel strut is fully down. Seeing the doors still open is a telltale sign that the crew did a manual extension.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

Note that a even a "free fall" still doesn't involve the struts actually rotating freely, as in down in a second or less. There is usually still going to be hydraulic fluid in the retract/extend piston to get pushed out of the way, resulting in a gear deployment rate which looks about normal. I've never heard of "the wind" locking a strut in place. That's what the spring-loaded overcenter linkage is for. Once the strut is down by its normal 88.5 deg (they cant inward 1.5 deg so as to be perpendicular to the runway or taxiway surface with its typical 1.5% slope for drainage), it will stay down until a different (much smaller) hydraulic piston pulls the linkage out of its "stable" overcenter position.

[@izzieb]

My main takeaway from this video is that Kelsey really wants to fire the cannon on a fire truck.

[@bertblankenstein3738]

Don't forget about the snacks.

[@baomao7243]

…but only if free snacks are also provided.

[@baomao7243]

@@bertblankenstein3738You beat me to the punch

[@badlandskid]

We all do

[@warren_r]

@@bertblankenstein3738 A snack cannon?

[@mattgayda2840]

If it hasn't gone down in four hours you're supposed to seek medical attention

[@papalaz4444244]

before any blood clots get into your brain

[@gonnabeok.]

😆😆😆😆

[@runnygames9027]

bruh lmao

[@stevenchristie6165]

😂

[@bluemantom77]

Lmfao 😂😆

[@rabidtangerine]

ATC trainee here, Kelsey's spot-on with the ATC speak. My instructors have some stories about gear up landings and they emphasize you have to say "you gear APPEARS down". We can't know if it's locked or not, we can only tell the pilots what we see.

[@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis]

You mean you’re training to join the ATCMen? Sounds awesome.

[@CanadaMatt]

I was on the last commerical plane to ever fly into Hong Kong's old airport, and we got a fire truck water cannon salute as we taxied to the ramp. Was a really cool experience and, fortunately, my only-ever encounter with airport emergency vehicles.

[@BillinHungary]

So you were one of the last people to get a free amusement park thrill ride as the plane flew over the buildings and banked into the runway'

[@CanadaMatt]

@@BillinHungary yes that was a crazy approach.

[@computer_toucher]

Yeah, if you're a flight nerd with a sim and never tried the actual Kai-tak approach: It's INSANE. @@CanadaMatt

[@kenjih]

I was on the last United flight to Kai-Tak and remember the thrill ride to land. And we were handed a little certificate acknowledging that, which was neat. Also once saw a model of what the airline pilots study for that amusement park thrill ride, it was something seeing minature skyscrapers and a plastic path on the model to guide pilots how to land. 😅

[@Paul_Wetor]

I like that display message at 5:33 - "Wait 2 minutes. This allows time for an overheat condition to cool." So many times you are told _what_ to do but not _why_ you should do it.

[@terryc522]

Passenger “captain? (Everyone wearing a uniform and sitting at the front is a captain-according to passengers), why are you cranking the handle?” Kelsey “sir, it’s ok. No problem here. The rubber band for the propeller broke, just giving her a coupling of winds to balance out the the other prop”

[@richardcoggins739]

While you were cranking the gear down you should have told the passengers you were winding the spring to keep the props turning. Lol

[@patirvin-bz9pg]

😅

[@kenbrown2808]

I found the planespotter's chatter to be a bit annoying as often as not. one of those cases where they don't know as much as they think they know, but they are very excited about having the chance to show off. and yes, Kelsey, it's fun running a master stream device.

[@bobthedemon1975]

Yeah - it was almost like he was enjoying it a bit too much. Like he wanted things to go wrong. No concern in his voice. Just looking to see what he could get out of it.

[@bryanstephens4800]

Found him a lot more than a little annoying and yeah he sounded excited for things to go wrong.

[@MoogieB]

I had to turn my volume off except when Kelsey talked. Anoooyyying!

[@kenbrown2808]

@@bobthedemon1975 I'm sure he was excited about it. and I can understand that. but he was still a bit annoying.

[@thebigcnel]

It’s funny to listen to non aviators talk about it. Everyone thinks they know everything about it. I’m an airline pilot and don’t know as much as these people think they know. It’s just funny to me.

[@dk2428]

Actual engineer here: When you do a landing gear gravity extension the landing gear hydraulic circuit is depressurised, allowing the landing gear and gear doors to free-fall to the down position. Obviously you can't retract the doors or use any kind of hydraulic actuation with a depressurised system. Just putting it out here for those not familiar with AC systems, like the spotter.

[@Markle2k]

IIRC (NOT a pilot), there’s a valve that closes off the hydraulic system in the gear bay to keep the rest of the system powered up.

[@TheWalterHWhite]

I wonder if the multi-directional loading of internebularly forces placed panometric pressure on the spurving bearing assembly. On some models of the 757, the logarithmic bearing race is known for premature failure as the amulite composition is prone to transverse unilateral fatigue. Side fumbling occurs which stresses the lotus-delta marzelvane pressure casing.

[@ericapelz260]

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

[@gnormhurst]

@@TheWalterHWhiteThis is correct.

[@nix4644]

@@dk2428 Relax, he's (she's, it's) just having some fun. Lay off the coffee, or meth.

[@Montana_horseman]

I was a passenger flying from Billings Montana down to Santa Barbara CA one night when the plane had a similar problem. I knew something was up as I watched Santa Barbara go by out the window. They couldn't get greens on the landing gear and weren't sure if they were locked in place. We diverted to the LA area because they had much longer runways and exactly like Kelsey said, they told us there would be emergency vehicles meeting us and not to be surprised. Also like Kelsey mentioned they followed us pretty close as we rolled all the way down the runway. There were some terrified people on board before the landing, crying etc. I tried to calm people down and assure them the pilots wanted to go home and see their families just as much as we all did etc. When we landed we rolled.. and rolled.. and rolled... finally stopping when we reached the fence at the end of the runway with emergency vehicles surrounding us. The passengers broke into massive applause when we stopped. As I left the flight attendants thanked me for being reassuring to the other passengers. I thought the whole thing was actually kind of exciting. Side note: If this ever happens to you, don't expect to get off the plane for a quite a while, they had to get stairs and buses out there etc. Then you have to deal with figuring out how to get back to where you thought you were going. It's not really over when the applause stops. 😉

[@davidcubero2137]

I've been flying over 40 years personally & I've been blessed not to have to deal with a issue as a Commercial Air Carrier Pilot or in any of my General Aviation Aircraft. I've done this in The Simulator, as All Airline Pilots have done. But in The Real World I haven't ever done this. However, my Dad was a former WWII U.S. Army Air Corps Combat Pilot & He flew as a General Aviation Pilot for The Rest Of His Life. I always went flying everywhere with my Dad. He found an Older Aero Commander that he really wanted to buy. That Sunday Morning I remember that we got to our Home Airport really early because we had to fly from the L.A. area to one of the neighboring States to look at The Commander & take it for a test flight. My Dad had owned a Commander before & had regretted selling it or trading it for a different airplane. I could tell that He was excited about the prospect of owning another one. We landed at this small, Uncontrolled Airport, I was maybe 12 years old, I don't remember all of the details, but The Commander was sitting in front of The Open Hangar Doors. As we Taxied in I remember that it was the largest airplane on that field. We met with the Owner who was waiting for us. I noticed that they had battery chargers hooked to both Engines. After my Dad & The Seller of The Piston and Prop Twin Engine Plane finished their initial talk, it was time to go flying. I remember that my Dad did the Preflight Inspection while I climbed in & planted myself firmly in the right seat. I was too young to remember the first famíly Aero Commander. But I thought it was so cool, on the inside it looked like a Small Airliner. (It would seat 8 or 10 Passengers.) As my Dad got on board & got into The Left Seat, He pulled out The Maintenance Logs, Air Worthiness Certificate & Other Paperwork that all Air Planes Must Carry On Board at all times. I was surprised when The Seller hopped On Board just before my Dad was ready to Start The Number Two Engine First. But He just wanted to go along for the ride. We Taxied Out on The Far Left Side of The Runway, because this Airport didn't even have Taxiways, but they did have a Unicom. I remember my Dad told me The Take-Off Speed, so I would be playing F/O. When we Started Our Take-Off Roll, I saw that The Airspeed/Ground Speed Indicator was Coming Up & I said "Airspeed Alive," I looked at The Oil Pressure Guages & said, "Oil Pressure is Good, All Indicators are in The Green." Then We were Approaching The Take-Off Speed & I Said "V-1," then "Rotate," Then I saw The Altimeter Begin to Move, I looked out the side window & I said "Positive Rate, V-2 & Gear." My Dad pointed to The Gear Lever meaning that I was being allowed to Retract The Landing Gear. We flew around for quite some time, I knew that my Dad was enjoying flying The Aircraft & I felt like I'd hit "The Big Time." But what we hadn't been told was that That Plane Hadn't Been Flown in quite some time. Everyone knew it at that Airport. If My Dad had known that, He would've never permitted me to go on that flight. But all of the Area Airport Bums were very interested in seeing us Land. Even The Airport Manager was outside with An Air Frequency Walkie Talkie & Binoculars. As We were on Our Final Approach, This Panicked Voice came over The Unicom Screaming "YOUR NOSE WHEEL ISN'T DOWN! YOUR NOSE GEAR IS NOT EXTENDED!" Well, of course, I would have aborted the landing & headed back up to Try To Work Through The Problem. But My Dad was Trained To Fly by The Military in 1942 & they didn't take time for all of that. My Dad continued his final & Touched Down on The Main Gear, then kept the nose high until we reached a point where The Nose wouldn't stay up any longer. Then it was "KAPLUNK," followed by The Sound Of Metal Scrapping On The Pavement of The Runway. At some point after we Touched Down my Dad had killed both engines. We'd Slid About 30 feet on Our Nose before coming to a complete stop. We exited the Plane & We wer,e just standing on the side of the Runway. The Funniest Thing was that The Airport had a Tiny Little Firetruck & All Of The Men Had Climbed On It & They Came Screaming Up With Their Lights & Sirens Blaring! I'm not sure why, it wasn't that there was any Traffic Between Us & Them & Those Lights & Siren Didn't Make Them Go Any Faster! But my Dad did a great job, even though He reverted back to His' Military Training which was basically "Don't Tie Up Air Traffic! Put It On The Ground, We'll Fix It Or Scrap It Later." I remember that there was some sort of debris that jammed The Gear & Prevented It From Extending. That was The Cause of The Nose Gear Not Extending. We were already aware that The Nose Gear Indicator Light had a "Short" in it, though all three lights were showing "Three Green," With The Nose Gear Light Flickering Off & On, The Seller & My Dad thought that was Normal Due To Previous Issues With That Light Malfunctioning. My Dad Didn't Buy That Airplane, Though It Was Repaired & Is Possibly Still Flying. My Dad Figured That If It Had That Many "Gremlins" In It, How Many More Were There? He soon found another Aero Commander to Add To Our Little Collection Of Airplanes. But that was in The Early To Mid 70's. I still own The Commander That He ended up Buying, along with The Cessna 310 that He Owned, The Citation III that My Dad & I Went Together & Bought, and A Couple Of G.A. Aircrafts that I've bought myself.

[@PyrPupMom]

God bless!

[@ianbell8701]

At 11:00 you mention “cranking the gear down”. As you discuss this is not typically something crews need to do nowadays. Back when I was a boy on the 707/720 we did “crank the gear” down during a manual extension - due to a Utility Hydraulic System failure or an abnormal gear indication. We had an extendable crank that we would insert into receptacles in the cockpit floor. The crank had to be turned in the correct direction - either clockwise or counter-clockwise - depending on which gear one was trying to extend. I remember the sense of pure joy when, at the end of the procedure, the three green gear lights illuminated. Love your channel and the way you explain things.

[@ImperrfectStranger]

There was a manual crank system for the gear on the early 747's, too, but in the main equipment centre below the main deck cabin floor.

[@davidjowett8195]

It seems that the only person getting over excited was the commentator/observer with the camera. The fire service would only hose down the aircraft if there was an indication of an active fire, because cleaning up the mess afterwards is going to be fun! and there is less likelihood of causing further damage to the under gear, makes the investigation afterwards easier. Well done to the pilot, a perfect landing.

[@loridavis9904]

I’m a retired firefighter paramedic and I was in a Town next to Ft. Lauderdale international airport. I can’t tell you how many times we ran mutual aid into the airport as precautions. Thankfully in my career never have had a major airport emergency. It’s funny how similar personalities firefighters and pilots are though. Wheels down Fred 😂

[@20chocsaday]

A pilot who landed with his gear up was Douglas Bader. He was awarded "tin legs" but was recalled to the RAF at the outbreak of WWII. When the Germans shot him down over occupied France they asked via the Red Cross for another pair. Last I heard of him he was overtaking a line of trucks and smashed into an old RAF pal who was driving on the proper side of the road.

[@sararaven]

I always have to watch your videos twice, first to watch the plane footage, second to watch Kelsey's face while he watches the plane footage😂😂 love your videos!

[@HeisenbergFam]

20:12 "I would love to shoot one of those, still a boy at heart" gotta be one of the most boy at heart things to say

[@CaptainRon1913]

We heard him say it, no need to repeat

[@delphidehavilland]

Yesss a new 74 Gear video is exactly what I needed on this sunny Sunday! As an aspiring air traffic controller I always learn so much from your videos, thanks so much for making them! ❤ Got my final interview to get into training school next week so wish me luck 😂

[@MsJubjubbird]

these always come out Sunday night here. They make the prospect of Monday morning just that little bit better

[@reppi8742]

My husband is a pilot. He's ready to retire in Jan. I started watching Kelsey and Air Disasters about 6 months ago. (Couldn't before!) Anyway he watches with me and can always tell me what went wrong and what could have been different. Good luck in your new career!! They need you!❤

[@warren_r]

Of course someone named "de Havilland" would want to get into aviation.... runs in the family.

[@janemiettinen5176]

Awesomeness, good luck!

[@3rdandlong]

Whisky-Tango 99'er, continue on your current altitude for ATC school, heading 020, winds calm, cleared for landing on 2-9'er Left.

[@Bluelagoonstudios]

I was one of the spotters in the past, they really write up everything and record everything on video, and in the Netherlands crash they used some of the material to make a file. These guys are also very annoyed when you come for the first time on their grounds (they think) but after a few times and if you bring some snacks and drinks, they adopt you very fast :)

[@BeagleBellow]

His name is Matt Cochran, he is a plane spotting FANATIC in Atlanta. He has over 600 videos and is a character when he's spotting on a regular day. lol, He can tell you what plane is coming in and what variant.

[@bones1225]

Weird thing Kelsey, my grandfather served in both , the first and Second World War as a pilot . His swan song was, ‘keep the blue side up’. I often wonder, how he , would have coped with all the information that you have to have dellt with, or deal with on each flight.? Takes a special breed. Keep the info “ah coming.” Loads of fun . Thank you.

[@SuburbanDon]

I love the know-it-all spectators.

[@CommomsenseSmith]

757 Rocket ship is a cool looking aircraft. The pilots did a fantastic job working the problem and landing it nice and soft.

[@k2_tech745]

Hot brakes on even smaller acft are a serious thing. In the AF, we had wax sticks (crayons) to put against the brake assemblies to see if they were hot after landing. This was a fairly common occurrence if an A-10, F-16, etc was returning was a full load (fuel & munitions). If they were hot, we'd pin the munitions and wait for them to cool. The pilots stayed in the acft with it still running. Once cool, they'd taxi back to park and we'd replace the assemblies which then went to be rebuilt. I have seen red hot assemblies on F-4s when the pilots would overuse the brakes trying to make a taxing way instead of using the full runway to slow down.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

a taxiway

[@Steve.Cutler]

A plane I was in landed in Gatwick in England in 1990. I noticed it was taking a little long to start slowing down. When we did start slowing down, I looked out the window and saw we had several emergency vehicles racing beside us. The pilot didn't say a word until we were almost stooped. Then he came on and said we had a brake on fire but it's under control and nothing to worry about. I'll never forget how calm he sounded. Yes, the trucks met us as we stopped.

[@cjmillsnun]

He was calm because he's trained to be. He also has confidence that the fire appliances will deal with the issue or tell him if it is getting worse.

[@RowanHawkins]

Fire vehicles have fast response, but they were waiting for you if they were along side as you were slowing. I hate when people lie to those around them for convenience and it is "accepted". After the flight landed, that pilot could have just as easily said. "We saw a weird indication on the brakes and though it would be prudent to have trucks waiting to stop a problem before it started." This still tells me that the Captain and crew have my well being in mind. It also makes clear that they care enough not to lie to me about it!

[@jakehildebrand1824]

As pilots, being calm is our job.

[@jakehildebrand1824]

​@@RowanHawkinsThe captain waited to inform everyone what was going on, because having the cabin panicking and decending into utter chaos makes it infinitely harder to solve the problem. They told the truth about what happened because they do care about your well being, and because being direct and open about it causes less of a disruption than being vague and unclear about it which leads to speculation and assumptions of a worst case scenario.

[@VetJim]

I served as a firefighter in the USAF. I agree that the trucks were too slow. Yes, today they have a lot of technology but when I was serving (1982) our truck was very basic but would be there for safety. No water on the brakes. They have to cool down on their own. If you put water on the gear they usually blow out and the rim can travel long distances. Like you, the camera makes it difficult to analyse the scene better.

[@davidharvey4059]

The disappointment in the spotters voice when everyone survived

[@muskiet8687]

On the 757, the alternate gear extension switch operates a small hydraulic pump, a "powerpack" Boeing calls it, which provides pressure to uplock release actuators that are separate from the normal release actuators. Those actuators unlock all the gear doors and open the uplock hooks that normally hold the gear up. When extending alternately, the door and gear hydraulics are ported to the return lines so they can free-fall. The nose gear needs some help from the air pressure to lock into place, which is why the Gimli Glider (767) had its nose gear collapse after landing since it didn’t have enough forward speed to help it into its down and locked position. When down, big springs on the downlock struts keep them in the overcentered down and locked position. And yes, the doors stay open.

[@maciekkra539]

With Kelsey talking about cranking the gear down, the only thing i thought of was the scene in "Airplane" when a guy was checking the oil with dipstick at the nose of airplane:D

[@RickSjoerds]

Oh man, Kelsey made his inner child do the talking; he wants to fire the canon! Great vid Kelsey. Love the humor and sarcasm a lot!

[@yammmit]

Kelsey you’ve inspired me to start my journey to becoming a pilot. I have a very long way to go (I just did my discovery flight last week and absolutely loved every second of it), and I have absolutely no idea how I’d pay for flight school. But it’s my dream now and I hope someday I can make it a reality.

[@P51]

the orgasmic expression of the plane spotter when he thought there would be an emergency was sickening

[@BeagleBellow]

You people on here are so Brutal! The spotter is a great guy and a plane Fanatic. this is his hobby! I can assure you he is not sadistic enough to wish harm or for an accident. watch a few of his videos, Matt Cochran

[@TheNucMed]

B757 - it has been years, and I have worked on many aircraft, but I believe there are Accumulator bottles that have a single use mounted in the wheel wells. So, yes, hydraulic failure. Inner belly gear doors drop, gear cycles, and they close, under hydraulics. Same for the brakes. They have their own accumulator bottles. Flaps can be electric. Aircraft Mechanics will typically check these bottles every flight. They are single use and can cause a brake fire or catch the tire on fire just from the heat of stopping. So the pilots step on it for all that they can as there will be little left if they lift up pressure on the pedal and press down again. I was ETOPS on B757, Commercial A&P Mechanic. Outstanding video brother. The visuals were amazing. Brings back fond memories.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

Just happy they landed safely

[@davidrush4908]

Private pilot here.. That was a great landing. Nobody injured, and the plane will fly again after a little maintenance. Any time I've been on a checkride, BFR or IPC, when going through checks on final I'll call out Gear, down and welded, and prop fixed. Usually gets a laugh. I've never had anything quite like that happen in flight. Had a seat belt end slapping outside. No big deal. Flap circuit breaker went out. Annoying, but thats what forward slips are for. Glide slope receiver quit on final, so i flew the localizer approach. A saturated carburetor float that caused a rough engine on pitch changes. That one worried me enough to call approach and let them know what was going on, but I landed safely.

[@fromordonlikebrennan]

You'll probably never see this, but thank you for your videos! I know they're for entertainment and informational purposes, but they helped my husband get a job at Southwest last year. You rock!

[@Dirk-van-den-Berg]

How's that?

[@fromordonlikebrennan]

@@Dirk-van-den-Berg Oh just the amount of knowledge gained from all of his videos, it helped in his interview. Not a pilot or anything, but a job at Headquarters :)

[@jakejacobs7584]

As I recall from quite a few years flying the 75, It doesn't have fuel dump capability. Some 767's do, but not all.

[@scottbush8767]

Hey Kelsey, I got to ride in an Oshkosh fire Truck on a Canadian Forces Air Base many years ago. I got to fire the water canon on it. It had a joystick to aim and fire. 650 HP engine. Zero to 60 KPH in 13 seconds . Very cool. Love your videos. Just flew Frontier Air from Atlanta to Las Vegas last week. Regards from Canada.

[@mariezurie7828]

Atlanta Hartsfield-busiest Airport in the world. They have over 65K employees. Top craziest airports I've flown into was Atlanta and LaGuardia. Good luck if you needed or had any questions at LaGuardia. They're a hot mess. Kelsey-love that your humble, point out your mistakes along the way, and have great catch phrases as well. You have a good sense of humor.

[@laina6219]

Brother! You made me laugh so hard on this one 😆 9 seater and cranking so hard and where sweating...and passengers didn't care....and then freezing cold outside...lol. I should tell you all my memories in the Air Force back in the late 1980's... 😂

[@samspade8612]

Free falling the gear is a regular check for maintenance workers when the plane is on jacks. Hat's off to the crew & maintenance workers getting the plane down safely.

[@aussiebloke609]

5:16 Regarding the gear doors remaining open...in the QRH you show, the final step says to _not_ do the GEAR DOORS checklist, so it sounds like it's not uncommon during a manual gear drop to leave the doors open after. Not sure if that example is for the same aircraft type, but at least it shows that it's not unheard of.

[@davecSFD]

I'm an ARFF firefighter on a military base. You never cool overheated brakes with a water stream unless they're actively burning and threatening the aircraft. Glowing red, smoking, etc doesn't matter. Let air cool them. If you put water on overheated brakes you're going to cause a lot of damage to not only the brakes but any metal components that are hot. They can shatter, crack, warp etc. Now you made a mess when it comes time to remove the aircraft because it's not going to roll. On larger heavy airframes (ie C-5, C-17) it's common to see smoke from brakes, especially if it's a shorter runway or conditions require heavy braking. It takes some time to spool all engines up for reversers to function so braking is required. Our primary runway is 9,500ft long and the larger aircraft still brake hard

[@Zachp51]

Tower, this is Ghost Rider requesting a flyby.

[@kcgunesq]

Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.

[@RevolutionibusOrbiumCoelestium]

I repeat the pattern IS full.

[@cjfromvanowga]

@@RevolutionibusOrbiumCoelestium ::spills coffee:: "Son of a b.."

[@vernonsmithee792]

That voice over narrative by Capt obvious puts this installment over the top!!😀👍 "Thanks capt obvious"

[@bulgingbattery2050]

In 2005, there was a jetblue flight that had to land with it's front gear facing sideways.

[@scottallen8329]

As a retired firefighter, your commentary regarding the "self earned" nicknames, statements made by the amateur experts and personal comments are priceless. Makes me feel like I'm back in the firehouse. Something tells me that you would have fit right in with us.

[@bm03431]

Kelsey you should do an episode on the wildest things maintenance staff have heard of other pilots doing

[@olivebranch1081]

Just yesterday I was on a flight from Paris, France to Dallas, Texas and they had a camera below the plane and a camera above the tail that passengers could watch on their seatback screen. As we were landing I was watching the camera below the plane and couldn't help but think "how unfortunate would it be if the landing gear didn't go down and everyone could see. That would cause a real fright!". Thankfully we had a smooth landing and got to enjoy the blistering heat as we walked out of the airport lol

[@jss27560]

I’m guessing they would turn off the feed.

[@maraudx]

Well you're almost describing exactly what happened to Jet Blue passengers back in the day. AT the time Jet Blue had live satellite TV on board so the passengers go to watch their own emergency landing on CNN - live - due to a messed-up nose gear. The closest I personally came to this type of deal was departing from Orlando (MCO) on a delta flight where you could tune your headset to the tower. It was kind of fun till all of a sudden, the tower stopped broadcasting. All the planes were asking for status updates and got nada. Then I heard the pilot of our plane (flight number) ask if anyone was "in front" of us and he took off without clearance as there was another plane coming up right behind us to land on the runway we were holding on. I just calmy took out my earbuds and decided to never listened to "channel 9" on delta ever again. As were it not for the earbuds it would have seemed like a perfectly normal take-off. LOL

[@No_ReGretzky99]

I live 15 mins from the Fed ex hub and Memphis int'l airport and there's a place I can plane spot and record imma start doing that love your videos man great hard work especially how busy your life already is as a pilot that is for all u do

[@syriuszb8611]

Fun fact: while there are backup systems to lower the gear, there is no backup for rising it (usually, I wouldn't be surprised if there were exceptions, especially in military). Why? If your gear doesn't go down, you are in deep trouble, but if it doesn't go up, you just have to land back where you took off. In most cases, no point in trying to fix that issue in air. At least that what they taught me in aviation engineering.

[@allisonb8912]

That makes sense, since planes have to be engineered to function with the least amount of equipment possible to keep them as light as possible. Adding an extra mechanism that is not essential to flying/landing a plane would be a waste of money and and create inefficiency.

[@pistonpilot]

As a student pilot, I was doing my runup in an Archer at York, PA. I'm going through my checklist, and I saw a passenger twin landing. I went back to my checklist when I realized his gear was up. He was at 300ft and 1/2 mile from the runway. He forgot. I immediately got on the radio and advised the pilot. He tried to put the gear down, but not enough time. He did a go-around and profusely thanked me for the warning. Then he says: "I owe you a drink." I have so many stories.

[@thoughtful_criticiser]

Having worked AFRS, you get a lot of calls to standby. Nearly all are hurry up and wait, then look at something and back to bed. The landing gear was hot but not on fire, no black smoke or exploding tyres (if they haven't already burst). The trucks are really impressive, apart from the gadgets and the water canon, they are fast. Very fast, they have to reach an incident within a minimum time, so they have to accelerate the huge vehicle and tons of water to faster than freeway speed in seconds and they go off road.

[@bills48321]

I have an idea for airliners: they could put small cameras around the plane so that the pilots could see things like gear not coming down or catching on fire, control surfaces malfunctioning or tearing apart, engines catching on fire, door plugs ripping open, etc. This wouldn't cost that much and could help pilots in emergencies.

[@charlesreid9337]

I have always wondered why they don't do this it would literally be pocket change. At least cameras on the engines gear and control surfaces

[@lourdesreeves6328]

Reminds me the time flying from Bimini to Miami in a small 9 seater prop plane - a young lady pilot and I was sitting in the copilot seat. Coming in for a landing she hands me a manual to look for manual gear. As you stated there is no separation and all I could hear was people praying Hail Mary as the young pilot was cranking that wheel looking thing. She was working it hard - she was awesome keeping her professional posture. I was 18 I thought it was great to be helping but now I look back and wonder if I would join those praying Hail Mary.

[@sylviamckenna8687]

Kelsey - great video, I will say that YES those master stream cannons are a BLAST to play with!!!

[@grene1955]

I was a fueler in the USAF in the 70's. I was once fueling a B52, and the off-board power cart wouldn't start. The ground crew chief was upset, probably because it was Friday evening, and he wanted to get off duty. So he grabbed a tug and raced back to the motor pool to get another power cart. The power cart was basically it's own small jet engine to power the pumps on the B52. I had already connected the fuel hose to the aircraft and all my grounding cables. So I'm there with a truck with a 5000 gallon load of JP4, tied to the plane. When he came back, going WAY too fast, he turned in front of the B52 too sharp, and the power cart started flipping over, doing endos. At that moment, a base firetruck happened to be going by. They saw the cart flipping all over the place, spewing jet fuel everywhere. I saw the canon starting to aim, said some very bad words, and ran to disconnect. I was literally jumping into the truck after pulling in my hose and leaving the grounding cables disconnected but dragging, when the fire truck opened up. I got thoroughly soaked with the foam, and because I was trying to get in the truck, the door was open. So I got soaked and so did the cab of my truck. I wasn't allowed to shower and change my uniform until I cleaned the cab. Not a great day for anyone involved!

[@tomriley5790]

If this was a comedy sketch nobody would believe it :-)!

[@markhatfield5621]

I've recently seen televised messages that the foam was toxic and there is some type of medical and legal issue going on. You might want to look into that.

[@ReiHinoSenshi]

should always be a manual to everything when all else fails...cranking my arms off for dear life to have a shot at surviving..is what it comes down to..

[@Sparkly11]

This reminds me of a flight I was on from Miami to Pittsburgh. Soon after takeoff our captain announced that our landing gear was stuck, but they didn’t know in what position. We couldn’t land right away due to being heavy with fuel, so they flew low to Tampa to burn off some fuel. The captain was excellent and explained everything to us passengers. He said we would be doing one fly by the control tower, so they could let us know what position our landing gear was in. We did that and heard that the landing gear was down. He wasn’t sure if it would be stuck in down position for landing, but we ended up landing fine. Plenty of emergency and fire vehicles around in case along with news crews. All was fine in the end thankfully and the crew handled it very professionally.

[@michaelpipkin9942]

In Vegas, we used to be able to park right in front of the runway at Nellis. It felt like you could throw a rock in the air and hit an F-111. I also have pictures of the signs that say don't take pictures at Area 51 and got my dad detained for 9 hours.... He thought it was pretty cool but was legitimately freaked.

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

You're too nice, Kelsey! Many pilots don't say squat in situations like this. I guess they don't want to scare the passengers or just don't know what to say. Just off hand I would guess this was a hydraulic problem because it looked like the nose gear wasn't all the way down and locked as well. And you're right about them "dropping" the gear manually because the gear doors didn't close, which isn't a big deal unless you get going too fast and remove them! There are actually more potential emergencies in flight that the passengers never know about that than most peopke think. Why would the flight crew even mention it if they resolve the problem? No need to stir things up in cabin, right? Once on a flight to DC in an L1011 (my favorite airplane to work on!) a friend with me asked about all the different noises that were happening as we approached to land. So I told him, that's the electric hydraulic pumps coming on.... that's the flaps coming down... that's the gear unlocking and coming down... that's the gear doors closing... that's the gear coming back up...opps, wait, what was that again? Yep, the crew had to cycle the gear to get three green, which apparently they did since we just continued the descent and landed normally. No trucks, no, "our gear might collasp" announcment, nothing. My friend, although a GA pilot, was already a nervous flier and this did nothing to help! Oh well, most of time things work out just fine with nothing news worthy happening. So sit back and enjoy the flight. If something does happen, you're probably better off not knowing about it beforehand anyway! Cheers, jc

[@winwhitmire2387]

As an airline flight instructor, I respectfully disagree with the comment "...no need to stir up..." Our responsibility to the passengers is to keep them informed as much as possible. This is a situation that my company WILL disclose the issue to the passengers. We will first inform the flight attendants as they are in charge of the safety in the cabin. This gives them as much heads up as possible for their preparations. Once a plan is made, full disclosure will be made. We're not "stirring" anything...we want every individual to know what the game plan will be. I suggest you take AMTRAK or Greyhound.

[@lawnboy81SMS]

My brother-in-law works for the DOD at an Air Force base as a firefighter/Paramedic after he served his time in the army and in Iraq. Like 5+ years ago he was able to let me come check out the fire station on base and gave me a ride in an Oshkosh-Striker fire truck and was able to even fire up the water cannon for me. That was definitely a lot of fun getting to play with the water cannon and an experience I’ll never forget. I’ve since become a volunteer firefighter in my small town and I’ll be starting on my 4th year in October already. I have hopes to continue my education and potentially go to work at an airport or similar fire station. The equipment they use is truly fascinating with all the engineering that goes into it.

[@rupturedduck6981]

My guess when you started cranking they thought you were cranking the rubber band to keep the props turning longer because the monkey that's usually under the deck that does that sprained his wrist before take-off. What surprised me was that the tower didn't ask the pilots that if they have to crash could they do it opposite the people who take the time to come all the way out to the airport just to record planes taking off and landing. If they could film something like that in glorious technicolor just imagine the 👍 likes 👍 that they would get on Facebook , KZbin and Tik-Tok. Yes I know I'm sick , I need help but tell me I'm wrong.

[@simonrayner3110]

At least he didn't shout "hey I got that on video!" and spoil it like a lot of people do.

[@BeagleBellow]

the spotter is a hoot. this is his Hobby and has over 600 videos. He is so over the top most of the time, you can tell he loves spotting. his name is Matt Cochran if you watch a few of his videos you will see what I mean.

[@jpriller5105]

This particular plane suffered a blown tire which intern ruptured a brake hydraulic line. Gear doors are off the left hydraulic system. When the alternate system extension is used it releases the uplocks and the mains ride the doors out. This causes the doors to remain open as the hydraulic system can not close the gear doors.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

which in turn

[@ImperrfectStranger]

Do you mean the brake line was ruptured after landing? The primary brakes are on the right system, the gear is on the left.

[@pilotblue6535]

Flew into Minneapolis/St Paul with parallel runways. Landed runway 12R while watching a simultaneous landing of an A320 or 737 landing on 12L when the right gear collapsed. Interesting watching the spark show until it skid to a stop in the grass.

[@tinareaume7484]

Good one, Kelsey! I enjoyed this video. My brother had a small airplane with a few passengers, maybe 14 or 16, the first time he ever flew passengers, and the landing gear would not go down. He ended up landing it on the belly and all was fine, except the plane of course.

[@EnufIsTooMuch]

I used to do a lot of air travel working out of Colorado Springs. Would have been 1997 or '98, coming in to land there we were quite low, at an angle and above the end of the runway any experienced air traveler would be expecting the bump of the touchdown in mere seconds when, that didn't happen. Instead, engine power came up, speed increased and we gently climbed out away from the airport. When we got up and a ways higher, level again the pilot came on the PA and announced there was a bad indicator on landing gear. He was calm and relaxed and said we'd be in a holding pattern a while as they worked the problem. You could hear and feel the vibrations of the gear going down, coming up, going down, several cycles of that. The pilot told us they could not get a positive indication so they were going to circle a little while until a mechanic could come take a look at it. Seriously, he said that, and also added we had plenty of fuel and no worry on the time. Soon after a two seat military jet appears alongside us. One person apparently the pilot and the other a mechanic with binoculars. Our pilot announced the mechanic had arrived! The military jet flew close on both sides as we passengers could hear and feel the added vibration of gear cycling up and down. The pilot announced all looked good and a defective indicator was the likely trouble. The landing was soft and easy. We were told to remain in our seats as ground crew inspected the underside of the aircraft. It was at this point a decision was made to deplane us passengers right there on the runway using a staircase truck (proper name???) and busses. So I suppose they had to of found something they didn't like the look of, but never shared with us passengers. So they emptied the plane rather than have it possibly collapse its gear with people on board. The plane was towed off the runway, or at least to me it appeared they were bringing in a tug to do so. This experience was not at all scary to me but there were some rather freaked out folks on the bus ride to the terminal!

[@peterdurand3098]

Great video as always. One wee recommendation if I may. Don't really need the spotters comments. Cheers, Peter

[@Zaephyrs]

Regarding the gear doors; the QRH shot used at 5:17 does say to not run the gear door checklist so that may be common for a manual gear extensions

[@geofhillier382]

Hi Kelsey, been watching your channel for a long time now and flew into LHR yesterday from LAX - I'm not the world's best flier - and experienced a go around for the first time ever and it didn't phase me at all - all thanks to your extremely helpful explanations I knew exactly what was going on. Thanks.

[@redlock4004]

This "spotter" is Matt Cochran and he also considers his channel as comedy. He has a lot of fun giving new names to everything (regional aircraft are Reginalds, Spirit Airlines are The Evil Spirits etc,). But be assured his knowledge of aircraft types is vast and so is his enthusiasm.

[@jackharle1251]

You left out another adjective ... annoying

[@AJTurnsLeft]

Love the story about cranking the gear down manually like you're doing your best Memphis Belle impression while the passenger is just chilling...

[@srp01983]

Sorry to make you jealous Kelsey, but I’ve used one of those water cannons on an airport fire truck - at Filton Aerodrome near Bristol. It was in the 1970’s, and we were working at Rolls Royce (RR and BAe had engineering works at Filton, and it was when Concorde was in full production). We’d been tasked with making a ‘blabber mouth’ for the cannon so the firefighters could change the jet from a solid concentrated stream to a wide, fan shape. So the fire service decided to give our engineering team a joyride round the airfield, loaded up with water and foam, and let us all have a go shooting the water cannon. I can tell you it was extremely powerful! A great day out, and it was followed up with another one a few weeks later on to test out our prototype.

[@Dougwarren69]

That actually sounds like Matt Cochran, he's a pretty funny plane spotting KZbinr. It's possible. Nice job Kelsey, as always. ☮️✈️

[@502Aviation]

I was wondering if somebody was going to recognize him.....

[@Dougwarren69]

@@502Aviation 🤘✈️

[@MENSA.lady2]

When I started learning to fly way back in 1963 my instructor, an ex WWII Wellington Pilot, told me that All take-offs are voluntary but landings are compulsary.

[@CerberusTenshi]

During my retraining as airplane mechanic, one of the training object we had was a small piston engine airplane. A Beechcraft Duke. A couple of times, we had to hand crank the gear, because we needed it in a certain position instead of fully out or fully in. Or we needed to check, that everything works fine, so going slowly was the objective. Cranking the gears sucks so bad. Especially, if it's Summer, the airplane is in a hot storage garage and has no aircondition. You're sweating your balls off in no time.

[@Bugdriver49]

Based in ATL for years....generally traffic coming in from the north lands on the north runway, south arrivals lands on the south RW. If a downwind leg is required...the downwind altitude is either 8,000 ft or 10,000 ft. I think that's a normal downwind leg.......

[@roberttyrrell2250]

Thanks again Kelsey for a great vid.

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

Dude filming had missed kid's birthday parties and baseball games waiting for that moment.

[@BeagleBellow]

the spotter is Matt Cochran and has over 600 plane spotting videos on KZbin. he is a hoot and this is his Hobby and has alot of money in his cameras.

[@BigArmBoss]

Protip: better to keep silent and let your footage speak for itself. You can always add a well-informed voiceover later. Logorrhea never goes well.

[@MeMakeSparks]

Nose gear was 45° back as well... You could see it slowly coming down through one of the passes

[@archangelmichael1978]

It was the same in the USAF. Any IFE gets tower to shut it down. And yes, roll fire trucks, AGE, crew chiefs, Mike Super, everyone who's mission essential waiting at the taxi way. All responders with "break red" blanket clearance. Good times.

[@TheGospelQuartetParadise]

This takes me back to that LAX landing of the JetBlue plane with the skewed nose gear. That pilot landed like there was nothing wrong with the gear even though it was ground down to the halfway point. I was on a plane spotting channel this afternoon from SFO and they had 3 go-arounds for various reasons, none of which were emergencies.

[@CharlesBrown-q8q]

I was waiting for a Pilatus PC 12 to land and evac a pt. It flew away with out landing due to flaps not coming down and the reset switch being outside the plane. That seemed crazy until the pilot explained what happened if one flap only went down, which occurred when some pilot somewhere reset the flaps against protocols. Thank goodness for RFDS pilots and medical staff.

[@pfsmith007]

The FBO I learned out of had a Cessna 310 that had been bellied in. Many many hours wrenching and re skinning, and finally it was air worthy again. The owner (of the plane and the FBO) was instructing in the 310, (it had only flown 4 or 5 flights since repaired), and they bellied it in again. It was tragic. I was talking to him about how it happened, and he wasn't very clear, other than he took full responsibility. He said that they were greasing the landing when he heard the tick of the props striking the ground, and just pulled the power, and bellied it in. I moved from the area, and don't know if he fixed the plane again, I doubt it, he was getting old, and I think he had better things to do with his time.

[@cfzippo]

Yep, right about the 757 gear doors. Former 75/76 guy, ya when you alternate extend the gear the inner doors stay open afterwords. And? I’m still a boy at heart too! I wanna shoot the water cannon!! 😂

[@sentryfe74]

The 707 had three little access doors in the cockpit floor to insert a handle to crank the gear down. The nose gear also had a large secondary bar down below the cockpit to use. The mains had two secondary access panels in the middle cabin area to release the uplocks manually.

[@chrismco89]

Can you imagine if that spotter had been ON that flight? Wow!

[@cjtink22]

I was on the edge of my seat. Thanks for the insight during this incident.

[@nathank4708]

Was a fire fighter for 14 yrs. We had a main dispatch channel. But when we got on scene we went to a alt. Channel to keep the main clear. There is apps to listen to main dispatch channels

[@robboyce6636]

Kelsey, you need to do a short documentary of an airport fire station. Or maybe. Spend week with an airport fire fighting crew here in the USA and maybe a week with one in Europe. Then make like 5 or 6 20 or 30 minute episodes out of the two weeks you spent with them.

[@Ark-Angel44]

Plane spotter is not the brightest bulb in the box, is he...

[@morbidmanmusic]

Really,.. that's your comment?

[@BeagleBellow]

Sigh, you people on here are Brutal. Matt Cochran is the spotter and is a plane Fanatic. NOT working for the NTSB!

[@patirvin-bz9pg]

We wouldn't see this if not for his enthusiasm, even tho he was a bit irritating

[@achitophel5852]

Back in 1995 I was on a 767 long haul and the last leg was from Singapore to Brisbane. On landing at Brisbane the pilot announced that the plane would stay on the runway until the front gear had been checked out because they had heard or felt something on taking off from Singapore. Trucks duly appeared and people got out, presumably for an inspection, which must have been OK because it then taxied to the gate. There had been no announcement after take off and the plane had not circled back over Changi. This doesn't tie in with Kelsey's comments?

[@tweetdriver]

When you use the emergency or alternate gear extension on every plane I’ve flown, there is no sequencing, so the inboard gear doors that normally close after the gear comes down, just stay open. It is normal.

[@jdd1979]

Is landing gear important?

[@DrWhom]

Meh

[@benderandownz]

It depends on the situation, honestly

[@NBSV1]

Landing gear is just a scam to save the airlines money. They make it to the ground just fine without it.

[@paladinsmith7050]

Landing gear is for noobs.

[@petermichaelgreen]

AIUI If you land with one or both main gear up then the occupants will likely be fine but you will likely do severe damage to the aircraft, possibly to the point of writing it off. Nose gear is less critical.

[@alexipati]

Have you seen how he nodded his head out of reflex when the plane touched down? What a pilot!!!

[@stickinthemud23]

Beautiful landing by that pilot. Truly.

[@87teggy]

Plane spotter was definitely expecting the worst and hoping for the worst. The excitement in his voice was not that of worry.