Plane Crash at West Bend, WI Airport with kids on board - EAA Young Eagles Program!

[@retydeere1111]

Great Dad, you are raising a wonderful family. You explained the situation well 👍👍

[@39in3D]

Thank you, that means a lot to me. I want Ryder to pursue his dreams, and I will continue to encourage him. I was scared also thinking that he could have been in that plane, but I reminded myself that flying is safer than driving a car. We talked again last night, and Ryder decided that he still wants to pursue a career as a pilot. We will be signing up for the next Young Eagles Rally!

[@billythekid3234]

@@39in3D That's great to hear and the folks are ok! I'm proud of you Ryder, Keep following your dreams. I was your age when I took my first ride in a Cessna 172. 8 years later I did my first solo in the same aircraft! At age 18. Blessing's to you and family and keep the blue side up!

[@vgrof2315]

He did not explain the crash well at all. He was guessing about a "downdraft". And what will prevent another "downdraft" from crashing a plane his son is in later? How silly to lie to your son while he is in his youth and inexperience about aviation.

[@retydeere1111]

@@vgrof2315 you are missing the point. He has a young son that he was talking to, with preliminary info and that’s all that was available at a time when he needs to tell his boy something as to not discourage him. Perhaps you were expecting an NTSB style briefing from the man within minutes of the accident? Sure, ok. Wish I had a son like Ryder to share aviation adventures with in a positive way.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

CAP is more strict with pilots flying kids for first time. This was no "Downdraft" There are no bad weather clouds around. The pilot didnt fly well. And yes, Im a retired CFI. 7,400 hours.

[@sandmedic1969]

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[@39in3D]

Thank you for the reply. Do you think these are rare incidents? I'm trying to figure out how dangerous this career would be for Ryder. Would you guide your son or daughter down this path? His next flight is 6 days away at the same place, and we are all going into this a bit nervous... Ryder still wants to be a pilot!

[@trainman1209]

@@39in3D may the Good Lord see Ryder through!

[@ctwalston1565]

As a long time EAA member and Young Eagles volunteer, this is indeed VERY rare!!

[@39in3D]

Thank you for volunteering!

[@vgrof2315]

The citing of "downdraft" as the cause of the accident cannot be anything but blatant speculation. Much, much more likely, it was some form of pilot error which is not so rare.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@vgrof2315 CAP is more strict with pilots flying kids for first time. This was no "Downdraft" There are no bad weather clouds around. The pilot didnt fly well. And yes, Im a retired CFI. 7,400 hours.

[@exoticprairie]

Anybody else think there's way too many people in the way of emergency vehicles etc.?

[@RayBlacklidge]

Young Eagles is a great program

[@39in3D]

YES! We love this program. I'm so grateful we get to meet different pilots and gather information about what to do next. Getting my son confident and comfortable in the air is the goal. This was just as minor setback. It's a good learning experience, though, for sure. We want to know what to watch out for.

[@vgrof2315]

GA accidents are not as rare as this guy would lead his son to believe.

[@39in3D]

What does GA stand for? That's discouraging to hear. Could you share some examples? If this is really that dangerous I would like to know more about it.

[@tractorsold1]

GA is general aviation: not military and not airline. Accidents in GA are much more rare than accidents in automobiles. Training requirements for pilots are much more stringent than for drivers. Airplane maintenance cannot be put off, the plane must pass inspection ,by an aircraft mechanic or it is not allowed to fly.

[@smark1180]

"Flying under general aviation (GA) is not safer than driving. Statistically, GA’s safety record is closer to the safety record of operating motorcycles. It just isn’t as safe as airline flying. The rules and requirements for a GA pilot are not as strict but that does provide the GA pilot with a lot more freedom in his or her flying."

[@smark1180]

@@tractorsold1 " Accidents in GA are much more rare than accidents in automobiles. " Misleading. "Flying under general aviation (GA) is not safer than driving. Statistically, GA’s safety record is closer to the safety record of operating motorcycles. It just isn’t as safe as airline flying. The rules and requirements for a GA pilot are not as strict but that does provide the GA pilot with a lot more freedom in his or her flying."

[@DonVideoGuy007]

06:16 - The young girl knew what happened and describes it using her hand and arm - just like fighter pilots do... 🙂

[@davidholubetz177]

let her talk

[@CNAviationofficial]

I've almost been in a young eagles crash it was a very windy day and the plane almost flipped

[@39in3D]

Could you explain to me the conditions that might have caused that? Can side winds cause a flip? Or is it the extra down force wind forcing the plane down to fast and then making it bounce up out of control? I'm not a pilot, but I do want to understand the risks even if they are rare.

[@CNAviationofficial]

@@39in3D heavy gust+a 7 mile per hour changing wind

[@scottturner6285]

Look at the title

[@1shinytop686]

It would be very nice if you would give a state that this happened in, as there is probably a town named west bend in just about every state.

[@mijo3642]

it says Washington county on the Sherrifs vehicle

[@nitrostudios5899]

Wisconsin

[@claytonstarwalt9914]

EAA 1158 West Bend, WI

[@kenkoller478]

5 second Google search.

[@39in3D]

Thank you for pointing that out. I will update it.

[@Coldwarrior7781]

Stall

[@39in3D]

Could you elaborate for me? Does this mean that the plane stopped generating lift because of the wind?

[@Coldwarrior7781]

@@39in3D No, no more than you can definitively say it was a rouge downdraft. If conditions were sketchy perhaps scrub that day since kids were involved. You seemed to zip the whole case closed within minutes from hundreds of yards away. Nobody in the aviation community wants it to be error. Nor do I. But most of the time it is.

[@39in3D]

@Coldwarrior7781 I'm just trying to make sense of this so I can justify directing my son towards his dreams with more peace of mind. I really don't know what happened. I was just repeating the things I heard around me so I could try to explain it to Ryder. I'm curious if there will be an actual crash report that I get to read later. I'm not a pilot, so I don't actually know what could have happened. I'm not trying to blame the pilot, I'm still grateful for the volunteers! I'm gathering that the winds are the danger, though. Would you advise us to avoid flights on windy days? Or was this just a fluke accident?

[@Coldwarrior7781]

@@39in3D I started with Civil Air Patrol at 13. My first flight was on an Aronica Champion built in the late 40s. Fabric covered, tiny engine, not much more than a kite. This incident will be investigated by the NTSB and their site can be accessed for reports. Unfortunately it doesn't happen fast. Up to a year. There are some KZbinrs who do an excellent job of unraveling these things. Often they come up with conflicting conclusions that IMO are more correct than the govt. versions. As for windy days, most of the guys I know prefer them because it challenges them more. Every aircraft type has different limits for crosswind landings and such and the individual pilots' skill level comes into play as well. I know guys who can put a Mooney down in a hurricane (exaggeration). Those guys are usually charmed people who've been flying since they were kids or have gobs of $ to accumulate the hours and eat sleep and breathe flying. But if you want to give a newbie a positive experience calm days are better if for no other reason than to avoid motion sickness. Motion sickness is not a deal breaker BTW. Some folks just have to build a tolerance. But it's no fun to take your first flight and end up tossing. A stall is when the wings stop flying. Usually from too high an angle of attack for a given speed. The air can no longer flow over around the wings properly. It's to be avoided. In tail wheel planes most landings are accomplished with a controlled stall. You can do landings on just the mains but then there's risk of a nose over. Again...skill and knowing when not to tempt nature.

[@Copilotdave]

@@39in3DDon’t get scared of the word stall, we practice stalls a lot, heck I did one yesterday, they can be a little abrupt or nerve wracking at the beginning, I used to be nervous of them, but a stall is defined as when the airplane exceeds its critical angle of attack. Think about a cup of water, when you slightly pour it at a small angle the water (airflow) sticks to the cup (wing) all the way down, but when you pour it more at a steeper angle the water (airflow) flows out unattached to the cups outer surface (wing) that would be the stall, a disconnect of airflow from the wing. Again, they can be practiced safely, if done hundreds of them, you just have to be aware of how to avoid them and how to recognize them, they can be dangerous if they happen too low, hope this helped!

[@nathanmeece9794]

All I could see was a line of emergency vehicles. Unable to see plane. Wasted my time watching. I was hoping to see the plane. You wasted your time filming. If this is a sample of your work I'm not going to subscribe. Title is misleading. I was hoping that you had filmed the plane actually crashing not a bunch of people and the emergency vehicles responding

[@39in3D]

The local media outlets never got that footage or photos either. We just happened to be there. Sorry, I couldn't get close enough to get a good shot of the plane, but I tried. This video is about the story and our experience in it. The planned video was going to be my son with the action cam on his head when he took the controls of the plane! We still plan to make that video. Honestly, though, if you want to see a plane crash that bad with kids on board, I would prefer if you didn't subscribe.

[@trainman1209]

If you're stupid enough to fly an airplane, you're not going to live long. People keep saying "accidents are extremely rare". What's rare is people who have a good brain.

[@steveanderson-xg1nc]

Really now? Flying is one of the safety ways to travel. I been flying planes and commercial jets for many years, never regret it. It's very safe and this is very rare incident.

[@39in3D]

Couldn't you make the same argument about driving a car, though?

[@trainman1209]

@@39in3D I have NEVER HAD an injury auto accident. Or a fatality auto accident. And my cars and trucks never malfunctioned at 0 - 36,000 ft, and fall to earth, injuring or killing anyone. So there's that....

[@trainman1209]

@@steveanderson-xg1nc I'm very happy your flying career has been very smooth & successful so far. I'm praying for you, Steve. I'm asking God to surround all the Aircraft you'll ever fly, with His Protection. I joined the US Air Force myself. But severe bronchial asthma canceled all that. I've probably watched too much influential KZbin. Read your Checklist every time. God Bless you, Steve.

[@markhepworth]

“Rider”...? Never the heard the word used as a name before

[@skeptical2649]

Ryder

[@39in3D]

We get a lot of questions about his name. Ryder is also a character from Paw Patrol (kids' show). His sisters name is Skylar, which is also a character name from the show. It was just as coincidence. We never saw the show before naming our kids!

[@39in3D]

We get a lot of questions about his name. Ryder is also a character from Paw Patrol (kids' show). His sisters name is Skylar, which is also a character name from the show. It was just as coincidence. We never saw the show before naming our kids!