Plane Flies Too Close

[@cptkirkpyro5656]

0:39 that's THREE airliners fling in close stacked formation. Scary/Impressive

[@RonaldPottol]

Yeah, I was kind of wondering how they kept track of each other well enough, you could only see the middle airplane occasionally.

[@kurtsvensson4362]

@theodoreolson8529Because they want to display the flag carrier airline during special national days.

[@southseasflying]

@theodoreolson8529 Outside the US most national carriers are at least partially government owned and heavily subsidized by the local taxpayers. They're also a point of pride for the country.

[@힐만94]

just wondering how they "manage" the TCAS alert while their vertical separation is less than 1000 feet...

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@힐만94you turn the transponder off. During a formation flight, only one airplane has the transponder on and does the radio communications. All airplanes act as one.

[@desmond-hawkins]

I never get tired of these Paro landings. They're impressive from the ground, but terrifying from the cockpit.

[@wilfreddv]

Was about to say... Very little time and space between the turn and touchdown

[@stevenbrucci]

But also probably exhilarating! :)

[@힐만94]

the "bowling-alley" runway...

[@rozanoff6175]

I did the same approach with a Falcon aircraft 😅 ! Exciting !

[@UrikKane]

respect to the fire fighting crew, as we've seen before it can be dangerous, plus that smoke limiting the view of the terrain

[@ChaoticOrcPaladin]

Those aerial firefighters just impress the hell out of me every time. Love it.

[@martensjd]

The planes are not too close. They're in formation.

[@roderickcampbell2105]

Hi Marten. Yes, the title had me worried, but it was formation flying.

[@freedomforever6718]

You are so observant.

[@Slide164]

Too closes is when the crash! Good video though!

[@AverageReviewsYT]

This channel is getting clickbaity I have noticed.. likely won’t be around much longer.. great content, but i have no respect for clickbaiting people.. stretching it a little is one thing, but a lie is just annoying. This channel knows about aviation, so there no need to “oops didn’t know that” videos over and over. It’s to get comments flowing, “rage bait” in another words.. there are plenty of channels that don’t do this, so I don’t mind leaving over the simple fact they’re lying to get algorithm spikes.

[@williamedwards1528]

Yep! The poster routinely puts clickbaity titles on every clip, when the content is good enough that deception is not needed. @@AverageReviewsYT

[@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr]

I agree with some other commenters. We like your content (though it hasn’t been stellar like in the past, seeing Aerosucre basically screw up all the time and such..) but yea we like you we just don’t like being clickbaited. I understand the algorithm is finicky but please do better if you can. Thank you Mr. 3 Minutes

[@XLRSAv]

Thanks for using our footage again! It’s an honor to see it on your channel! We have a new video featuring a 767 Porpoising at KMIA if you’d like to use it! Cheers

[@jjmetrejhon1743]

Another fantastic video! The stacked formation flying, the tight turn from the Drukair, heroic firefighters tackling blazes by air....all that and 6 extra seconds of aviation too! :D

[@MohJam]

Love these MD-87 sequences... You can see the lead spotter plane set the smoke for the MD-87 to drop the retardant spot on the fire line... So well timed.

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

My old eyes didn't see that, thanks for pointing it out. I was concentrating on the big plane diving into smoke and fire, couldn't see anything else.

[@S1L3NTG4M3R]

These are great! I have seen so many... (2023)... thanks again!! :)

[@EauRouge]

This channel NEVER disappoints. Amazing vids!!

[@dontdriveangry06]

Except for the times that the video doesn't match the title, which is about 90% of the time

[@chaushb]

No no no, the title is pure clickbaiting.

[@Flumphinator]

You’re new here?

[@cazc5200]

Flying too close together? So thats why they always have frosted windows in the loos on a plane 😂😂

[@Lightjug]

Best "3 Minutes" I've seen yet - nicely done 👍

[@freedomforever6718]

I watched dozens of air drops performed by various firefighting aircraft including a DC-10 and 727 on the northern California "Highway" fire this past week.

[@stephanbuschmann7028]

Can someon tell me why the Gear is down during the firefighting?

[@Qboro66]

Because the earth is on fire?🌎🔥🏜🌡🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Qboro66]

​@stephanbuschmann7028 Just a guess... Maybe to create enough drag so as to not miss the target?🤷🏽‍♂️

[@skydiverclassc2031]

@@stephanbuschmann7028 It creates a bit more drag to slow the airtanker down during the drop. Higher airspeed during the drop may cause the retardant to spread out more than desired for the preferred effect on the fire.

[@Alvin-1138]

​​@@stephanbuschmann7028on another channel, Blancolirio they speculated that fire retardant might affect the landing gear doors and mechanism? Or might be ingested into the engines without the gear down ? He wasn't sure; but knew that manufacturer/engineers only certified it to do drops with the gear down.

[@RUBBER_BULLET]

This channel really should be called 'Too Minutes of Aviation.'

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

Is that supposed to be the number TWO?

[@RUBBER_BULLET]

@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Every other video has 'too' in the title and it is nearly always misleading. Like this one, planes flying in formation aren't flying 'too close.'

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

@@RUBBER_BULLET gotcha

[@jamesstuart3346]

Holy cr*p.. Great stuff. Keep 'em coming!

[@the_astraios]

I feel honoured, a free 7 seconds 😮

[@kayta6141]

Instant subscribe, I love this videos. I wish they were 10 minutes of aviation 😜😜

[@mccloysong]

Not a late turn 1:24 unless an earlier turn descending into that hill blocking final is preferable. That's Bhutan, and it was a text book A+ approach

[@magicstix0r]

That'd be a hilarious ATC call... "Saud 01 with you 3 ship 777" "I'm sorry what?"

[@stefanhopf]

Thanks for the videos here !

[@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985]

1:13 Thrust reverser not stuck open, they can be deployed to control speed and save brakes

[@flyingpedal]

Amazing selections of video. Nice !

[@curtisdaniel9294]

I know the name of your channel says "3 minutes..." But I could easily watch for a longer time. Say 5 - 10 minutes? Either way, keep up the good work. 😊❤🎉

[@fromthepeanutgallery1084]

Wow where is that place/airport where Drukair is landing. Looks amazing. Anyone know? 1:32

[@redbaron4600]

I love this Saudia retro livery.

[@RedBl4kwng]

hope u get to 400k soon!

[@MatthewPettyST1300]

As stunning and scary as that landing was by the Drukair A320 was at 1:25 . I would love to see a take off with those Mountains off both end of the runway. I know they are farther away than they look, I hope.

[@papernecklace]

They are not, actually! Paro airport is the most difficult airport to land on, and only 24 pilots worldwide posses the qualifications to be able to land at Paro Airport.

[@francoisdvanderwesthuizen]

As far as I know due to the location and the complex take-off and landing procedures of Paro Airport take-offs are to only one direction and landings from the other only, no switching around.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@papernecklacehow about one of the most difficult ones? I wouldn’t call it the most difficult one. There are some others that are as challenging or more challenging. Lukla being one example.

[@GearboxEnt]

​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Lukla is an "airport" in name only, more like an airfield (helicopters and puddle jumpers props only). You're not going to land an A320 there - I'm sure the other person was talking about airports able to handle actual airliners

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@GearboxEnt well, it all depends on what someone calls difficult I guess. I personally feel Toncontin was one of the most difficult, especially since I had to go in after sunset, which is normally not allowed. And if you google it, you get different lists and rankings. None have Paro as no1. Wellington NZ seems to rank higher. St Maarten seems to rank higher, even though I personally feel it’s a pretty straight forward and easy airport. I guess it’s all in the eye of the beholder.

[@Twobarpsi]

Thanks to a previous commenter on another video, who pointed this out...I noticed the lead spotter plane, in the fire fighting clip, shoot a puff of smoke to signal to the MD87 where to drop his load. Thanks to you whoever you are 😃👍

[@kristapsjankavs9359]

1:27 what airport is this?

[@jerryf4806]

Great stuff, thank you!

[@gregorydejong3130]

The planes are close as they are flying in formation. The conversations in the cockpit, other other pilots in the formation and air traffic controllers as they are confirming distance coordination with weather conditions to make changes if required to maintain a safe distance. Formation flying is a highly skilled procedure with many components that pilots are taught in flight school.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Pilots are not taught formation flying in flight school. Only military pilots are taught this.

[@gregorydejong3130]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 not true! When I studied flying and I learned in a Cessna 172 Skyhawk, I learn flying in formation in flight school and our flight club often flew together in formations to club functions.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@gregorydejong3130 maybe your flying club did formation flying and taught you how, but regular flight schools do not teach this. It’s not part of any required training standards. It’s been a while, but I was a CFI at the beginning of my career.

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Great video!😸

[@huplim]

That MD-87 was something

[@Echard110]

On an A380 only engines #2 & #3 have reverse thrusters. What were seeing here is not engine #1 retracted and engine #2 stuck open but rather the thrusters on #2 and #3 just haven't been retracted yet.

[@JohnnyTheMonkey]

Shouldn’t the trailing plane be below the other?

[@concorde2003]

I want to take a moment to thank all firefighting pilots. It's dangerous work. Your efforts are appreciaated. I'd paddle a rowboat across the ocean before I'd fly with a saudi pilot.

[@cap3586]

Thank you for the extra 7 seconds!

[@kevindigo22]

What's really too close are the two planes seen below the Airbus @ 0:39....Drukair, is this landing at Paro?

[@deannelson9565]

Did you not read the caption? They're not too close to each other and they're not coming in for a landing they're putting on a demonstration flight try to pay attention! The only thing they screwed up within the caption is calling it two planes instead of three.

[@andys9864]

@@deannelson9565 He didn't suggest they were landing. He asked if the Drukair at 1:26 was landing at Paro.

[@jitssh]

Yeah it's in Paro

[@pyro3rg]

At 2:38 is the smoke from the single prop an indicator of where to drop the flame retardant?

[@se-kmg355]

Correct.

[@SenorCrazylegs]

Regarding the fire fighting aircraft, why is the gear down?

[@InquisitiveEngineer]

Remember, kids: Only Spellcheck can prevent forrest fires

[@joeyjamison5772]

"Only You Can Prevent Forrest Tucker!"

[@luscid5602]

The click bait titles are super annoying. “Plane flies too close” and then it states that they are flying in formation. Love the content though!!

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

2:34 does someone know why the plane flies with extended gear?

[@brookekathryn1980]

Drag.

[@MyNotSoHumbleOpinion]

It's a FAA requirement only for the MD80 during retardant drop! Flaps 40 and gear down! The reason is for the stall prevention system!

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

@@MyNotSoHumbleOpinion interesting, thank you!

[@TheTomyossarian]

I’m glad you asked, I was wondering the same thing. I’ve seen a couple videos showing the same configuration.

[@TheTomyossarian]

@@MyNotSoHumbleOpinion Thanks!

[@keithharrison1453]

Formation flying has changed somewhat from when I was trained. Back in the day, it used to be Fixed Wing had the following aircraft fly behind and just below the lead, so as to see them at all times, and behind and above the lead if Rotary Wing, to keep your big whizzer from hitting his big whizzer. Most helicopters also have pretty good downward visibility ahead, unlike passenger jets. Those fellers following the other aircraft seem quite determined to exploit their obvious blind spot below them. Stray out of formation by flying a little too fast, and the lead disappears below them. After that it's potentially Braille Formation Flying, all done by touch!

[@dotancohen]

The Saudi formation was without pax?

[@VictheSecret]

That's not a 'late' turn, it's a standard approach for that runway.

[@MHL1528]

Can someone explain what aeronautic braking means in regard to the United plane? The thrust reversal deployed before the front wheel hit the ground?

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

I think it's just that he keeps the nose up, in order to maximise the drag of the wing to slow down. So he brakes with his wings

[@deannelson9565]

They keep the wig at a high angle-of-attack therefore the wing acts as an airbrake.

[@johnschmidt8440]

@@delfinenteddyson9865 You are correct.​

[@chrisschack9716]

As stated, keeping the nose up to create more drag with the wings. You're really not supposed to do that, without the nosewheel on the ground you have poor steering and if you're not careful you can slam it down when the lift runs out.

[@robertmartin8007]

Aerodynamic braking on an airliner actually makes the landing roll longer, you want the energy going out of the nose wheel and you’re actually doing the exact opposite of what is normal standard operating procedure. The ground spoils and also can’t do their maximum job, because the pilot has the nose hanging in the air. This is nearly always an ex fighter pilot who simply cannot change his behavior. Most airliner SOP’s have verbiage that the nose gear is best on the ground. Several years ago in one of my airliner proficiency checks they specifically told the class not to do this.

[@Videolinquency]

Close, but definitely not too close, as long as both of them survived.

[@EasyModeFishing]

It’s cool that a plane as enormous as the a380 only needs 2 thrust reversers.

[@Chris-ho4ki]

There is no Aerobraking on 757…pilot was trying to de-rotate aircraft and was hit with a gust

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

You can aerobrake if you want, even on a 757. But this wasn’t that. And he wasn’t hit with a gust of wind either. He simply took his time letting the nose down.

[@gileshammond]

Not the way to do it. High risk of tail strike, needs a bit of retraining I’d say

[@lbowsk]

The tail strikes the runway due to excessive pitch. Not the amount of time the nose held off the runway. @@gileshammond

[@gileshammond]

@@lbowsk I understand that but when you hold off like that you significantly increase the chances of it happening, just not good practice. Boeing certainly don’t recommend it

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@lbowsk right. I always find myself agreeing with you. 🤣

[@bilbotbaggins1536]

Is it common to have the gear down when doing water or fire retardant bombing?

[@se-kmg355]

It is to increase drag so you have higher RPMs on the engines, since the spool up time from idle is quite long.

[@bilbotbaggins1536]

@@se-kmg355 thanks

[@intellectfactory]

1:35 - That Paro landing looks almost like MSFS 2020. Maybe the game's graphics is so good or real cameras gone bad. 2:10 - That pilot is having the time of his life.. weeeeee......

[@limpet7r63]

It was a pre-organised formation. Not exactly too close or dangerous.

[@Zerpersande]

I enjoy this channel but the owner’s ‘take’ on many situations seems to be, uh, less than perfect. Can’t spell either. Should be ‘forest’.

[@cockpitlife737]

2:22 landing is so smooth

[@cmikesmith664]

Last video, “plane flies too close to fire”. Why not that title also?

[@Earthneedsado-over177]

The tanker dropping on the fire, no just no says every fiber of my being. Hey, there is smoke and fire, let's dive into it! Such skill and nerve.

[@PaulCashman]

Corrected title: Plane Flies Pretty Close

[@andrewjoseph9786]

I really enjoy the videos, and I am also a subscriber, but you need to get your titles right.

[@die_moehre5658]

That formation is impressive! Just curious, would you get a TCAS warning or can you disable TCAS beforehand?

[@se-kmg355]

You turn the transponders off.

[@walmartdog1142]

Is fire retardant a powder or a liquid?

[@botinhas82]

Liquid.

[@davidv1289]

It is usually borate and red dye mixed with water. The dye makes it visible from the air and on the ground.

[@skydiverclassc2031]

@@davidv1289Borate itself is long gone, since the 70s. It's a mixture of gel and various chemicals (phosphorus, nitrate, etc.).

[@skydiverclassc2031]

It's both. The retardant base comes to the airbase in large bags of powder, manufactured at the factory. The bag is set up by a large water tank, and blown into the tank by air pressure. It's then mixed with the water to form a thick slurry, which is then pumped out to the airtanker bays when the planes come into reload. It's a constant process, depending on how many tankers are reloading during the day. An S-2 takes on 1200 gallons at a time, while the MD-87 may have 3000 gallons.

[@doglover31418]

Phosphorus? Really?@@skydiverclassc2031

[@Oswaldo_Zuniga]

any reason why the erickson aero tanker flies with the landing gear down?

[@se-kmg355]

To create drag. The spool up time from idle are 5 seconds, so to prevent stalling in need of a go-around, you can keep the engines on a higher RPM.

[@SanoyNimbus]

Why does the fire fighting plane have the gears out?

[@CapStar362]

if im not mistaken, i read on a blog, its due to how the fire bay is between the gears and requires the gear doors to be open, as they could not mechanically create a system within the MD-80's airframe otherwise without removing the doors completely.

[@doge6978]

Why is there always another plane after the one that drops fire retardant?

[@stevenbrucci]

Called an "air dog" to direct the tanker to the exact location and--like this--monitor the drop.

[@hadzukyon1671]

0:40 those are 3 planes?

[@julianacristina380]

1:07 Que fofinho!😍

[@Daedricbob]

I wish every channel was like this one: no ads, no filler, no annoying voiceover and no clickbait. It's so bloody refreshing nowadays!

[@canheiko3663]

Amazing. It was so cool video.

[@HxTurtle]

I doubt that this was aerodynamic breaking. I mean, it's definitely a thing (space shuttle), but this wouldn't have reduced landing distance. looked more like missing front gear training scenario to me.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

It’s not a missing gear scenario. He simply lowered the nose a bit on the slow side. Aerodynamic braking, if used, isn’t about reducing landing distance. It’s more about not using brakes.

[@HxTurtle]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 oh, okay. or, well … not fully agree on the not for reducing landing distance-part. for some scenarios, this is the exact reason. I surely see what you say for a regular aircraft. but if I recall correctly, Concord used this method per design to cope with a higher landing speed required due to her delta wing design.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@HxTurtle the Concorde did not use aerodynamic braking. Go ahead and search for Concorde landings on KZbin, they all lower their nose right after touchdown. Fighter planes use aero braking because they have crappy brakes and they don’t want to overheat them. Airlines shouldn’t use aero braking but you can. I used to do it on 747’s occasionally and still do on other types during certain circumstances. However, the shortest landing distance is using brakes. Aero braking can be used if you need to exit the runway at the very end and this way you don’t have to use brakes.

[@HxTurtle]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 thank you very much! 🫡

[@TigerAviation892]

Very cool

[@njcurmudgeon]

Am I the only one who at first glance thought the plane landing at Paro was from an airline called "Drunkair"?

[@greghomestead8366]

Not being a pilot, why are the wheels down on the fire fighting plane?

[@damienanger9560]

to lose speed

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

FAA requirement so that the stick shaker, which prevents stalls, works properly.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@damienanger9560nope.

[@crosleyman50]

Not sure the proper name for it but notice the spotter plane leave a smoke trail to signal the firefighter plane where to make the drop.

[@CapStar362]

"marking smoke"

[@36thstreethero]

Using AP to fly in formation, iconic!

[@AeroTravels]

Nice!

[@Metis1337]

that method of fighting forest fires has to be one of the most inefficient things ive ever seen

[@slickrickulous6092]

It's also extremely dangerous so if you've got a better idea I'm sure they'll be all ears

[@muhammadraza9163]

Nice

[@elvhulobanegas]

Dang what a cool plane simulayor

[@Oedwak]

Too close for what? It isn't too close until they try to occupy the same space at the same time.

[@renejean2523]

Like in 2001 when all those Saudis flew planes too close to some buildings in New York.

[@dougaltolan3017]

Too close for snowflake comfort. Too close for FAA regulations. Too close for the sake of a video title.. Take you pick or mix and match..

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@renejean2523you keep posting moronic crap. I have a feeling you are not very well educated. Only a simple minded person makes these kind of remarks.

[@Anmeteor9663]

AeroSucre #1 All Firefighter drops #2 Everything else #3

[@GreencampRhodie]

STOP using misleading video titles!

[@mikameyers4170]

0:41 F1 track visible here

[@christianmiller1723]

Is using aerodynamic braking in a 757 part of United SOP? 'Cause I'm pretty sure that no commercial airline would appreciate having to replace tires, breaks, and entire rear landing gear assemblies much more frequently than they do already. Leave that to the military pilots, and unless there's an emergency situation that calls for it, use your spoilers, reversers, and breaks. Unless you're Aerosucre, in that case, do what you want as it's a miracle that you managed to get off the ground at all.

[@camf7522]

2:20 makes me think that the approach speed was too high?

[@tenpiloto]

PLEASE STOP USING THE WORD "TOO"! You don't understand what it means!

[@halitgumuskaya1838]

McDonnel uçağının ve uçağı kullanan pilotun yaptığı iş çok değerli ❤

[@bengonzales1182]

1:23 lol at first I thought that said "Drunkair." I'd probably say no thanks to that airline if it were named that.

[@globalnomad450]

The united 757 was very slow lowering its nose wheel… not sure it’s was doing a wheelie!

[@H11T09]

How come the TCAS is not going crazy in the first clip ??

[@lbowsk]

It was turned off.

[@kamcke83]

2:32 "Pilot Flies To Close To Wildfire"

[@thuchmachine]

wow good

[@markoutwithmark]

All flights are just a chess match with physics. ✈️

[@ItsLesurex]

I’m surprised he put a smooth landing in here 😂

[@rlyvision]

finally something about saudi 😅😅

[@Angel-so6tg]

Bro imagine get allowed to do a fligh low in a comercial plane to a pilot is a dream😍

[@loicneullet6304]

Flight Simulator at 1:40...

[@johnandrews3568]

A wheelie is a momentary pop up and down. Keeping a front wheel in the air for a sustained period of time is a catwalk.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

I'm a model, you know what I mean And I do my little turn on the catwalk Yeah, on the catwalk, on the catwalk, yeah I do my little turn on the catwalk I'm too sexy for my car Too sexy for my car Too sexy by far And I'm too sexy for my hat Too sexy for my hat What ya think about that?

[@iandocwra1169]

Formation flight so NOT too close! Forest has one 'r'.