Planet Coaster 2 - 6 MORE exciting/concerning things - Tycoonist

[@aussieoutlawalt8411]

WHAT THEY NEED is the Ability to add new products to Sell, we spend Countless Hours creating new Stores and Restaurants but are limited to the small amount of Items that come in the game without the ability to ADD

[@PettPett11]

The exit thing for waterslides is NEEDED!!

[@alexrowley9029]

Copperhead strike from planco 1 was just a reskin of the Mack multi launch (vector) and not an intamin blitz. So an Intamin blitz had never been in the game

[@Petpatrol2]

Welp, i'll admit when i've goofed! I'm a hardcore coaster nerd but i'd be lying if i said i don't get confused between the various types of intamin blitz and mack launched coasters.

[@alexrowley9029]

@@Petpatrol2 😂😂

[@jasonkloos6348]

For in game purposes, they pass for each other just fine.

[@amacon.]

@@Petpatrol2 Doesnt seem like youre a nerd as much as me lol

[@Petpatrol2]

@@amacon. I didn't realize this was a contest? Do I need to get the ruler?

[@xXJasonMakiXx]

Hotels, restaurants, carnival games, arcades are at the top of my list, but now also water structures and exit pools can be added to my list.. Hopefully we can also make custom stores in the future and choose what kind of merchandise or foods are included in each store..

[@symyevollmer]

I wish the log flumes were more than 20degrees drop wise...and hope the customizable/walkable gift shops and restaurants from Planet Zoo come over

[@videogamescoverftw]

or that they took more than 5 feet to go from 20 degrees to flat subjecting riders to 5 vertical g's from a 20 foot drop. Customizable drop towers is my wish i know i'll never get. Intam- *cough* *cough* i mean Outamax drop towers don't have much to customize other than height but I'm sure customizing pressure equalization rate, air tank volume, and max pressure as well as height on the F&F towers Could make for some crazy drop towers and would offer hours of tinkering to find the ones you like best.

[@ThrillsofColdplay]

I hate the log flume in planet coaster

[@StevenKelley]

I think you hit every nail on the head with your wishes and concerns. Especially the water physics, and exit only pools! If you're going to do a waterpark, do it right like they did with coasters!

[@Petpatrol2]

Thank you so much!

[@BatteryH1862]

I think the hotel issue may be that the park closes for the day, and having guests stay inside the park would mean they wouldn't pay the next day. I don't know if the specified restaurants won't be in the game like they did for hotels.

[@Petpatrol2]

I mean, it's an interesting thought, that it's because of the timescale, but I don't think it's about paying for the next day, since in most planet coaster parks, guests pay per ride rather than for a park ticket. A hotel shouldn't have any effect on that. And if it was because of the park ticket that would be a n easy fix - calculate it into the park ticket cost. I think what you're syaing makes more sense in the sense that now because day/night cycles matter more and take much longer, hotels won't be a constnat stream of income, they'll only actually be doing anything once every few hours. Which admittedly is an issue. Although not an unsolvable one, I feel like.

[@FireflyNL84]

It could be an option to make an hotel entrance where guests check in first and enter the park through the hotel. They pay a price that matches up witht he length of the stay. Could be an option.

[@deridderjordy9893]

Some kind of transport vehicle for your staff would also be useful, so that they can get from one attraction to another more quickly

[@NinjaPrimeProductions]

I am still on the shelf about buying this game, even during a STEAM sale, I loved PC1. I may wait until all the actual bugs are fixed and next year's sale. Thanks for the review! Subbed

[@bienenfluegel]

I wish there was a way to instantly see when your coaster was pulling way too many G and not wait till the test had finished running. Or something where it doesn’t just finish or smooth the ride but suggests a “safe” version. I might have played it too casually as to know how to avoid it having way too many G, but it really killed the fun when however often I tried, I just couldn’t get certain coasters to work. Particularly when I wanted to incorporate specific loops or 90° drops, I’d end up with a sad, boring coaster because no matter the breaks no matter suddenly I had 10 lateral G while not being able to actually finish the next loop at the same time. So it would always be back to prefab or the same coasters that I knew are easy to build.

[@tybertpsymon]

I'm sorry but your argument about playground structure just want me to have playground in planet coaster, just imagine building your dream playground, like a golf course back in rollercoaster tycoon. But to be fair, i'm dreaming, having an animation to do for every obstacle there sound far fetch.

[@TrickyPlaysGames]

The list of things that have been added and improved is so much longer than the list of concerning things for me. We've seen a few Planco creators play PC2 for a couple hours now and they all spent that time on discovering new features. That makes me confident that this sequel will be packed with new stuff and a lot more to discover. There definitely will be some disappointments, but there's no such thing as a perfect simulation game anyways. Some people also seem to forget that this game will probably be updated for years to come. It will only get better

[@adaxxusairsoft]

Loved the video, all your points were great and you mentioned things I either didn't think about or didn't notice! Also loved that you mentioned hotels being removed, I flipped out when they said that. My first plan was to build a hotel/resort the second the game drops but now it's harder to do.

[@Petpatrol2]

@@adaxxusairsoft thank you so much! i'm really happy to read comments like that! i hope i made you notice some good things as well!

[@adaxxusairsoft]

@@Petpatrol2 Yeah the video was very well made, I clicked on your profile and was stunned that you only have 1k subs, quality reminded me of some of the larger planco youtubers with 20k+! Hope to see more of your content in the future!

[@Petpatrol2]

@adaxxusairsoft thank you thank you! believe it or not most of those are dead subs, too, a big channel gave me a shoutout once, i hot a whole bunch of subs from kids who subbed cus the channel told them to, then they never watched anything, LOL. Most of my latest vids before planco didn't even break 100 views, i'm really glad this one is doing well, and thanks for the compliments!!!

[@adaxxusairsoft]

@@Petpatrol2 No problem, giving credit where credits due!

[@tigersfan8459]

I just want the slide physics to be fixed, they did great 20 yr ago.

[@thexintax]

First Person Camera as a guest? Remember Sim Theme Park/Theme Park World? That game had it, and I love it. But that game is 25 years old now.

[@Petpatrol2]

yup, i remember and i loved it back then, too. needless to say it looked way better when they showed it off in planet coaster 2, though!

[@MGMutt]

Planet coaster 1 also has one. You rename a guest tegidcam and it goes into one

[@Petpatrol2]

@@MGMutt oh right, i forgot about that, but it didn't let you control it like you can in planco 2.

[@Andelspir]

Is the video from the pink coaster starting on 24:56 in-game footage from Planet Coaster 2? Looks nice and realistic!

[@Petpatrol2]

Yup! That's from deep dive 3! I recommend looking at it if you haven't yet. they made a cool sci-fi area out of repurposing the aquatic theme.

[@hell_fyre6457]

Great job suggesting new ride types, I totally agree. Great video.

[@Petpatrol2]

Thank you so much!!! :D

[@vampironl]

Hey man great video! I agree with most of the points (both positive and negative). Cool to see you you used my forum pictures :D My most negative point is that there are indeed quite a few planco 1 rides missing. Some of them were quite popular so I can see them make a return pretty soon.

[@Petpatrol2]

@@vampironl thank you so much! they were super useful, i thank you for making them and keeping them up to date! it's been so useful even before i was making a video about it!

[@ethanshackleton]

Steam workshop tags won’t be an issue with planco 2 because we’re getting the frontier workshop from console edition, which only allows blueprints in the blueprints section, parks in the park section ect. The coaster selection UI isn’t as bad as you think as long as you use the filters and categories provided to you, most will have 10 rides at most per tab so you can memorise the positions, also the names frontier comes up with are pretty distinct so it should be fine.

[@Petpatrol2]

ah, good to know! I don't have any experience with frontier workshop, I didn't even know if it existed before this game or not.

[@ElephantTrap]

I would love a first person psvr2 mode where you can walk through your park and go in the rides.

[@ReallyMaki]

Really good video, I really enjoyed it! I just want them to fix the waterslide physics and the stations!

[@JSXSProductions]

20:15 - I was really hoping this whole time that they would base guests on the animals in PZ so you could have them use scenery as paths, and you'd have to build fencing to keep them out of flowers, ride areas, etc.

[@Petpatrol2]

@@JSXSProductions i don't know if that's necessary, people do typically tend to stick to paths for the mostpart IRL

[@FireflyNL84]

Nice video! About the hotels and restaurants... it would be amazing if they add the system they have in zoo for it. As in having tables or blocks that one can decorate (so they arent such massive as that basic shops and restaurant/hotel blocks where people just dissapear instead of you seeing then actually have dinner or go to a room). Having a front desk where the guests check in for the hotel or to get a table. If they put a system in that also registers tables that are filled with guests meybe they can even add waiters? I mean a whole DLC about hotels and restaurants could be very amazing. I think it would do credit to everyone that ever build a realistic restaurant or hotel. Add hotelrooms with decorated furniture and such. Then one needs to hire waiters, desk people, room cleaners etc. If that is the thing that comes; I will have all the patience in the world for it :D Maybe that would even be working for things like midwaygames and will also be added later. When it comes to DLC's I didnt like the franchise DLC's they where to specific and I've not touched more than 2 pieces from each of them. So I hope they dont do that anymore. I mean how many pieces of a monster or kit car do we need? I am a sandbox builder but I can see your point about the option to just not load items from DLC's you dont have. As the only reason I've those 3 packs is that for a contest I hosted people added items from those packs. I dont know what I would prefere; mixed DLC's (decor and rides) or spil DLC's. With the list of rides that are already in I wouldnt mind a few deco packs. Sure throw in a few rides but with the lack of TMTK for now I would choose the deco packs over ride packs as for now. I do hope that TMTK will become and option. Maybe just flag the parks that use it to protect the console players? I think I will miss that mostly in the new game; tmtk. People who know me might actually laugh their ass off as I end my 5 cents in this reaction on your amazing video

[@Petpatrol2]

Thanks so much! I appreciate the comment! i'm really hoping to see hotels and restaurants get a glow-up, and hopefully also some levels where you actually have to build them. I don't think TMTK necessairly has too much to do with console (maybe it does, idk), for me i figured it's like with planco 1, where they added it as the game's last update to extend it's life. they didn't release it before so it won't get in the way of DLC sales. I imagine something similar might happen with planco 2

[@USATFJUMPER]

for path it was because we wanted central areas to ve a Plaza but was unable to do so.

[@Flow_325]

Just like to say by the time this video was uploaded most of the UI has been fixed so im so excited!

[@Petpatrol2]

Has it? I heard people commenting that it's better and styas open when you want it to and such but i've still not seen the stuff that bothered me the most get fixed (the full screens, the needless info, and the lack of pictures on the coaster names)

[@Flow_325]

@@Petpatrol2 yeah the full screens are still in the game but besides that the mean things are fixed!

[@lycanroctube5946]

The items having pack specific icons like the sims would be awesome ngl.

[@eclipsestar4111]

I agree spray grounds would be awesome! I would also love to see a parade option with customizable floats, choreography with music, new characters etc... Most major theme parks have some sort of parade whether for holiday's or daily events

[@Petpatrol2]

@eclipsestar4111 personally that's a pass for me. not a lit of parks have that, itd probably be a nightmare to integrate into the existing path system and cause a lot of issues to folks who arent experts at ut, cause a lot of work for devs because of all the animations and variations, while adding very little to gameplay

[@rlas]

I used to watch Channel 5 Gaming daily and I loved what the community came up with. Outstanding creativity. Cool to see that Frontier is aknowledging this with the Scaling Tools.

[@OfficialBluemonke]

The way I look at the game is we only found out in like July that we were getting the game. Imagine it wasn’t coming out on the 6th November 2024. Imagine it was the 6th November 2025. We have our problems with planet coaster but slot of them such as paths for example seem to be fixed in the new game. Things like water parks, switch tracks and drop tracks, and all the other stuff like that are just amazing add-ons. If some things aren’t perfect that’s mostly fine. After all we didn’t have them before and people loved the game so much. Even if no one uses the new features for some reason when they play the game, it’s just bonus things that we didn’t have before. It’s kind of difficult to explain but hopefully you know what I mean

[@JayKing-i7w]

Yes please continue to do Planet Coaster 2 content. I like the way you present the information over how many others on KZbin do it.

[@Petpatrol2]

Thank you so much! I'm really glad to hear it! What specifically did you like about how I presented it, so I know to stick to it in the future?

[@jarmoliebrand2005]

I hope they’ll add add (preferably metal) bobsleds pretty soon as a dlc. I loved Bob at Efteling when it was open. Maybe similar physics could be transferred to the water slides, making them a bit more realistic.

[@DAZARI0]

I'm so hyped for small things like the actual first person camera. Always wanted to walk around my park and enjoy it from a guest perspective. i also hope fences are spine based option like paths instead of the arduous task of piece by piece. would also be cool to be able to clone objects along the edge of the path by maybe highlighting a path section and adding lights, trash cans, and benches, with inputs like number of clones and spacing between each clone.

[@Petpatrol2]

I believe from what we've seen fences are still the same as they've always been, nothing new there. Would be nice though.

[@Swiftey-wu2qq]

I think the issue with the path system was that most people wanted realism and aesthetics and the pathing system didn't do that any justice at all, the new paths recognise that and make it easier to make good looking paths without putting prefabs over the top. They listened

[@GeoTactics]

At first I thought "oh geez another PC2 complaint video" BUT... your info is SPOT ON, and the choices the DEVS have made on choice of rides only in the DELUXE edition (maybe a DLC later) and lack of typical themes you find in 90% of the world's parks - western, castles, etc. Really enjoyed your video and the insight. It feels like they are prepping for a mass cash grab. So sad. And I wish they would have made the peeps a little more realistic. Anyway... great video.

[@Petpatrol2]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! I STRONGLY disagree with the cashgrab comment though, in fact that's exactly what the last thing on my list was about! I believe the stuff they got wrong is either for technical reasons (such as guests not being more realistic because with thousands of guests in each park that would raise requirements for the game dramatically or cause lag while making it look less whimsical), or just mistakes by someone who didn't realize how much their choice would upset the consumer, or saw there's no other feasible way to do it (like waterslide physics). and so many people are complainig about the lack of the original planco themes, but, like, they already showed how much the existing themes can be repurposed - they made a lovely scifi area out of the quatic theme, all you need for western theme is wooden building pieces and scactuses - which are more than likely all still in the game, and castles are litteraly just... stone buildings with pointy tops. The only thing we'll relaly be missing from the fantasy theme is dragons and witches, and personally i'm not gonna lose any sleep over that. All of planco 1's themes should still be possible, they'll just be a little less "ready out of the box, just plug and play" than they were before. I really think people are blowing it out of proprotion, personally!

[@disneysydneyresortvirtual9264]

I saw the steam stream. Yes when you are in first person you can click on a ride and ride it,just like that. And when you are done riding it places you at the exit in first person. It's much better than in Planco 1 and the immersion of that mode is great.

[@Petpatrol2]

Really? That's awesome!

[@imaginationsquare]

Whoa whoa whoa, the visual upgrade from Planet Coaster 1 to Planet Coaster 2 is huge! I'm a 3D artist myself and I cannot say many things they could have possibly done more! Planet Coaster 1 was simply a good looking game already! Planet Coaster 2 is simply the same style, because it's a sequel, but GREAT! :D

[@Petpatrol2]

Okay but... For all of how much we love planco's style and such, if you were shown a picture of planet coaster 1 and 2, and they didn't contain any items that you KNEW were from one game or the other, in most cases you'd be hard pressed to say for sure which game they're from, i feel like.

[@mrguide]

I’ve played Theme Park and the RTC games a lot. Recently, i rediscovered my love for RCT3 while playing on the iPad (my 7y/o wanted me to recreate his favourite amusement park rides). Of course the Instagram algorithm worked well and I got a ton of PC2 content. Haven’t played the first one, but I just had to pre-order. Since I don’t really own a decent game pc anymore, I went with the PS5 version. Curious to learn how that works, but videos like this one get me hyped up!

[@Petpatrol2]

I'm so glad to hear that! Planco was made by the same folks who made RCT3, so I think you're in for a treat!

[@mrguide]

@ RCT3 was so ahead of its time back then, I’m sure I will be playing Planco 2 for the next 20 years haha

[@nextwednesday]

When I'm designing my parks I like to build a young children's play area (climbing nets, slides etc) and some gardens, as real theme parks have these areas for the younger and older guests who get a bit overwhelmed and want a change of pace. It'd be nice if some guests in the game interacted with these areas and they weren't just scenery.

[@jarmoliebrand2005]

17:21 For me, the obvious flat rides I want (I don’t really care for many other flats outside of these) are the Vekoma Madhouse. This is probably the ride I want most. Yes, ride, out of all of them, period. Yes, for me, even above these often requested coaster models. May have something to do with that I’m very, very sure, we’ll get to see our Intamin Blitzes, RMC Raptors and Mack Xtreme Spinners soon enough. If they’re not at launch, they’ll be in DLCs that people will be eager to buy. I would just to have a madhouse and just customise the room on the inside of the new customising tools. I’d also love for the Tower of Terror to return. We got it in PlanCo 1. It lends itself well to theming. And I want it back. The last one, to complete the pattern of flat rides that lend themselves well for intricate theming, is the Intamin Dynamic Motion Stage. As of now, no ride of this model has been opened. That’s going to change on Halloween, with Danse Macabre at Efteling. Efteling is my home park, so naturally I’d love to have ride types from that park (I’d love the powered coaster and the metal bobsleds). If you don’t know what this thing can do. It’s a massive platform that can spin, with individual carriages that can spin too. Sounds like teacups, right? It can do more. It can also tilt, heave and drop. Danse Macabre looks so awesome and I can’t wait for it to open. With the tilting, heaving and dropping, you can play with elevation. And with the rotation, you can direct the gazes of your guests. I’d love love love this ride as well. Even though there’s only one in the world, it could be so versatile and so fun to theme. And Frontier have made far more obscure inclusions than this. Maybe with the new sequencing tools, we could get more in depth flat ride sequencing. Though this does seem like a pretty intricate feature which I would expect to be in the game. In the first game, you could alternate between cookie cutter elements on your flats. It would be cool you could like change rotation of certain rides the same way you can do with the X-dimension coasters, where this blue and white arrow pops up. And since I’m going on about Efteling rides, I wouldn’t mind the flying island to return. More types of observation towers would give you nice ways to customise the skyline, especially with the new ride customisation tools. No longer would you just have to use the Pagode from Efteling directly. Rather, you could just theme the observation towers yourself.

[@Petpatrol2]

Many wonderful suggestions, including some I didn't now about! I gotta say, as someone whos' never been on a madhouse ride it's surprising to me how much people seem to love them. They don't LOOK like they do all that much but... I guess maybe it's a "you've gotta ride one to know their charm" sort of deal?

[@enigmaticcat7915]

I really have to agree with you on the #6 complaint. Along with the fact that this is 100% not a DLC, that's way underestimating the size of this game and what it's doing to expand on Planet Coaster's mechanics, I also think that people are too picky about the graphics. We have to remember that even though this game is 8 years newer than the first, it's still a complex simulation game (even moreso than Planet Coaster 1 with mechanics such as the weather, ride customization with animating parts, etc.), so having far superior graphics could mean a significant hit to the game's general performance. It's surprising to me that ultra realistic top-of-the-line graphics are still a priority to people after the fiasco that was, for example, Cities Skylines 2. That game tried for a massive graphical leap and, as a result, ended up being extremely laggy on even some of the best hardware. Great video by the way, it's nice to see someone considering the good and the bad instead of just leaning to one side!

[@Petpatrol2]

Thank you so much! I fully agree, and appreciate the feedback!!!

[@CoasterCollectorUK]

Maxx Force is a compressed air coaster. S&S have a new gen compressed air model, which has proven to be quite successful, i cannot wait to build one!

[@bradleysmith292]

Killing it with these videos!! (and the views show :) ) Hoping to see more PC2 when it releases!

[@Petpatrol2]

Thank you thank you thank you!!! It's pretty exciting, ngl, to go from a video that got 43 views to a vid that got 21K is... very exciting! I hope I can come up with enough content in the future that people enjoy and that they won't be disappointed when I inevitably get off topic with some of my other vids!

[@FutsKnucking]

Carnival games would be amazing for realism when recreating existing parks in RL

[@cheeseface1234able]

Well presented and conceived. I did enjoy your presentation and it gave me some things to consider

[@Petpatrol2]

Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate the feedback :D

[@thedude4063]

Heck, one issue was the hub UI being too big on PC for Planet Coaster 2, which Frontier changed in Beta versions

[@Zaxomma]

Frontier has experience with Carnival Games in their game Thrillville. I loved it but there's an expectation that the player would be able to play those games as well adding more mechanics.

[@Petpatrol2]

@Zaxomma nah i don't think theyd apply the same logic from thrillville to planco

[@ianstanley3055]

It would be nice if stations came with an option to use a pre built station structure

[@Petpatrol2]

honestly yeah that's a great suggestion!

[@Grim_Dev2004]

would be a cool idea for a DLC that basically is full off Concept coaster models.

[@Petpatrol2]

honestly that IS a pretty cool idea for a DLC.

[@FrankDaBank25]

It's crazy that on xbox, the complexity meter spikes when you start attaching scenery pieces to moving objects.

[@aransweeting969]

With the dlc items, we should just get a pop up that lists the items that we haven’t purchased. There should then be an option to just remove them automatically, or replace them with a scenery item of our choosing👌🏻

[@aransweeting969]

Either that or it pings you to where the individual thing is so that you can delete/replace it yourself

[@Petpatrol2]

@@aransweeting969 agreed!

[@MrCow579]

Their new building shorts showed that scenery will now block walking area. This is HUGE

[@Petpatrol2]

as someone on the planet coaster reddit mentioned - there's a cut in the video when that happens. it's more likely that they added the scenery, then off camera used thepath erase tool around the scenery to remove the path there.

[@trotspot]

9:20 You can! This was shown in a recent steam exclusive stream!

[@wohanlon]

The workshop issue I think is more down to what people tag their creations as, I was using it the other day to specifically look for entrances, but was getting loads of rides etc, because people but the entrance tag on them.

[@Petpatrol2]

exactly, that's why i feel like it needs to be either curated or automatic.

[@kittylou5459]

My biggest worry is that they are locking the pre-order items away, As there is currently no DLC extra for those, which usually a sign they stay locked away. Which like you have said will then cause issues later when they are used in a park from a creator, I guess one way around it would be let it still be used even if you dont own that DLC. So download a creators park, use it within the confines of that and only that...... but that becomes a tricky one I guess. As then poeple could just use every assest to unlock them. Altho maybe have it where its used, but if you dont own it, you cant move it, if you delete it, its gone. Its a hard issue to be sure and not easy to get around, but as it stands those pre-order items are locked behind pre-order, beyond that tuff, which is a shame. I do wonder if they will let you import parks from the current one, as it looks the same, I am sure they could create a importer or some sort. And you then go round fix any bugs/glitches. And then carry on eidting it with new tools and features.

[@Petpatrol2]

I believe they've stated that there will not be any import system, because while the gmaes look very similar, under the hood they're too different for that.

[@animehuntress9018]

OI! I loved the Munsters and the other DLC's! At the time no one had done anything with those intellectual properties in ages and its was super fun to see them in a GAME! Also for the price it wasn't that big of a deal. I have a bigger issue with the Planet Zoo DLC. Full price for those oh heck no!

[@Petpatrol2]

Don't get me wrong, I love back to the future and was happy to buy the delorean go karts, but at the same time I still raised my eyebrow at it. It just feels to me that because of the content-lock where you can't have access to a lot of things unless you have every DLC, there's implied pressure to own all the DLCs. So anything without appeal to the majority of players will just leave a bunch of us feel pressured into buying something that we wouldn't otherwise want. Plus, I don't know, maybe the musnters is bigger in the USA than i'm aware of, but I think the vast majority people in my country wouldn't even know what the munsters were if you asked them.

[@animehuntress9018]

@@Petpatrol2 I get that. I never felt it with Planet Coaster since I was excited to see something done with those properties, but I DO feel it with Planet Zoo. I only own a handful of DLC and it is frustrating to see Content in the workshop only to realize I'm missing a pack or have to research its content in game to unlock it. PS. More then likely. with the Munsters thing. It was my favorite thing to watch along side Leave it to Beaver, lol. I am not yet 40, lol. My family just loved the classics!

[@alexevans7882]

Honestly scared for how much the ps5 percentage bar will go up with all the new things like power. Great video :)

[@Petpatrol2]

Thank you so much!

[@Mad-Lad-Chad]

But Planet Coaster 1 had a first person camera you could use. It was odd to unlock, but it was there.

[@JanKapolka507]

8:40 This actually is in Planet Coaster 1, it is kinda an Easter egg, if you name one of your guests a specific name (I don’t remember what that was but you can look it up) you will get a low view from the path and you can even zoom in (change FOV)

[@Petpatrol2]

yeah but in planco2 it's an actual built in feature and you can control the camera, not just attach it to an existing guest.

[@JanKapolka507]

@@Petpatrol2no, I didn’t mean attach to a guest.. I was talking about a “easter egg” when you rename a guest and your camera changes and you can actually control it

[@JanKapolka507]

@@Petpatrol2Try to rename a quest “tegidcam”

[@JanKapolka507]

@@Petpatrol2try to rename a quest “tegidcam”

[@Petpatrol2]

@JanKapolka507 ah, didnt realize you could control it, my bad

[@OfficialBluemonke]

9:45 to be fair it is called the vintage funfair RIDE pack so hopefully they can introduce DLCs and maybe even more ride packs in the future

[@Petpatrol2]

oh i'm aware, i jsut found it to be an interesting siwtch when in planco 1 the vintage rides were a DLC rather than a ride pack.

[@TmePlays]

Just under a week to go! I really hope they do fix the water slide physics though as they are a little off putting atm! Saying that still looks like an awesome game though and of course I pre ordered!

[@user-dh3ei8ff1p]

The only two concerns I have is that you can't have areas that the guest don't go to. For example if I want to build a Statue and some trees in the middle of a path the guest will walk through them. And the waterslide physics are really bad as well. Hopefully they fix this. It doesn't have to be on release but hopefully in future updates. Im still really exited to play the game and im sure it will be great anyways

[@Andrew-l4o]

Finally a video where they actually talk about how all the positive things outweigh the negatives. 😅

[@Petpatrol2]

Heh, I think it's the sentiment in a lot of the big youtubers' videos as well, they jsut maybe don't list out all the good as much as I do, but you can hear in what they say, typically as they start or conclude the video, that they still feel the same way.

[@poppyperfect9167]

Little bit of a stretch, but I hope we get some sort of concert dlc where we can create stages and events for the guests to come and watch. I really want to make my own amusement park music festival!

[@Petpatrol2]

@@poppyperfect9167 well, that doesn't seem likely to me, but there is a fin game called festival tycoon that sort of lets you do that

[@Thefury325]

The copperhead strike coaster type wasn’t an intamin blitz, it was actually a Mack rides launch coaster…

[@Petpatrol2]

So I'm told. I'll admit I have trouble telling them apart!

[@alexevans7882]

Honestly feel like they missed a trick with not having maps on sandbox like the campaign annoys me, I know sandbox is meant to be an open slate to build what you want but I do like the scenarios of mountains and things and would love to see that in sand box

[@oneeyedpunk]

with any luck youll be able to "open as sandbox" like you can with the pc1 career maps

[@bizarrealtispinax2747]

17:05 I think they missed the opportunity to add the Triple Giant Wheel from Six Flags Great America. It had an amazing appeal to it that would've made any PlanCo2 park's skyline an amazing sight.

[@Petpatrol2]

I agree that as far as unusual rides go, this would be nice! However it's 1. so uncommon and 2. SO big and space-consuming that it would likely be the largest flat ride in the game, and people are already complaining that the rides in the game are too big. (looking at you, star flyer...), so it might not get people particularly hyped up.

[@bizarrealtispinax2747]

@@Petpatrol2 Absolutely, but even so, they had tons of other rides to choose from. I honestly don't see any appeal to the dive bell ride lol, it doesn't have anything really interesting to it so that they thought of adding it. Maybe something like, OH, Eyerly Aircraft's two-seat spider would've been way better.

[@Petpatrol2]

@@bizarrealtispinax2747 I think they picked it specifically because they were looking for things with an aquatic theme to go with the game's waterparks. Same for the splashdown freefall thing. I think it maybe the diving bell wasn't the BEST choice but... I absolutely do see the appeal, it's nice having some unusual ones as well as the more typical ones.

[@bizarrealtispinax2747]

@@Petpatrol2 I see what you mean, yeah, I somehow agree with you. Anyway, I just subscribed, great content.

[@Petpatrol2]

@@bizarrealtispinax2747 Thank you so much!!! It's really appreciated!

[@FilthyGringo]

There's no way the first full DLC will be the preorder ride pack. I imagine that will be a 4 dollar download put up at the same time as the first full 10 dollar DLC

[@Petpatrol2]

@@FilthyGringo maybe, i really think vintage ride pack will be the first though

[@motanium]

I know water slide physics were your #1 concern in the previous video, but I really feel this could kill the hype within minutes after trying it out that it would be worth being loud enough and not stop raising the issue till either frontier fixes it or address concerns. It would suck to be so exited to play with the game just to be let down 10 mins later for the bad water slide physics that are way worse than RCT 3 soaked. It will be the first thing I’ll try out, and if it feels worse than RCT3, I think I’ll refund my Deluxe version.

[@Petpatrol2]

Well, as i mentioned in my previous video, i really think you need to go into it with the assumption that it won't be fixed. First of all, they don't have time to fix it, and they already showed the tiktok stream as the "final version" of the game, which still had broken waterslide physics and those dang boxy shaped inner tube slides. They're %99.5 absolutely still going to be there on release, and they're probably not ever going to be patched out in the future because that'll break any previous builds and saves. BUT. having said that. Is that really such a dealbreaker that you should get a refund for it? Imagine for a second that planco2 had come out with everything that it currently has, except... inner tube slides didn't exist. they were never added. it was just body slides. would the fact that they act like the bobsled coaster really bother you so much that you wouldn't get the game? I mean, probably not, right? It'd be annoyign that there's no inner tube sldies in the game, but... Not so much that i wouldn't still want the game for all it's other features. Well, that's how i intend to treat it most of the time. I'm just... not going to build the tube slides in most cases. And enjoy the rest of the game for what it is. I suggest you do the same!

[@motanium]

@@Petpatrol2 A huge part of the interest in building water slides, is to test out the physics and make wacky stuff as well as realistic. Do I have to be careful with banks to prevent guests from flying off? Do I have to be careful with hills where guests could fly off? Do I have to be careful with putting tight corners together, as guest could smash their heads and make the slide more dangerous? Will it matter if I make a massive drop so that guests in the 'flush piece' get way more rotations? Or if I do entries to slow, will guests just enter the flush piece and slide slowly out and be disappointed? To me, it is a big deal, and given they market the sequel as waterparks being a big part of the sequel. Getting excited to build a waterpark, just for the slides to be 'pre-animated', would mean I would probably just build one, figure out there is nothing out there to explore, and just not be worth it to me. And given that I pre-order, I want frontier to know that I want water slides, with physics, so if they don't deliver on that in a way that can satisfy my imagination and curiosity, I want to let them know by making it the reason for me to refund, and that if it's fixed later on, then I'll be happy to buy the game once the part that really caters to me is ready. I really want to have fun, and I'm glad I'm not alone in feeling this way. I really want for this to be THE theme park game, and really spend hours making slides and then enjoying them.

[@Petpatrol2]

@@motanium fair enough!

[@videogamescoverftw]

My ONLY serious complaint is still with physics related ride types and with the addition of water slides it makes it that much more apparent. Side friction and bobsled coasters should crash with negative vertical g's over -0.1. I had this problem with planco 1 and its made even worse with slides being added to that list. Slides and bobsled coaster should also be susceptible to excessive laterals throwing out the side. These ride types should also have that in mind when determining ride stats.

[@Petpatrol2]

yup, i covered that in part 1 of my list, the waterpark phsyics were my #1 complaint!

[@sclurpsclurp]

Another banger video ✨️

[@Petpatrol2]

yo, thank you so much!!! :D I really appreciate it!

[@Scraghunter]

Dude, I made a great use of the Munsters pack. Don't dis what you didn't use. Someone else did use it.

[@Petpatrol2]

I never said it was never useful to anybody, I'm sure some people did awesome things with it, just like i'm sure the firehouse pieces form the ghostbusters DLC were relaly useful to a lot of people. What i'm saying is that the vast majority of players are not people who have enough of a connection with those franchises to want to buy them just for the franchise they're in, and they don't have enough content to appeal to the majority people who AREN'T into that franchise. So even if some of the peopel buying the munsters pack can make cool stuff with it, it doesn't hcange the fact that most people won't WANT to buy it in the firstplace, but they'll feel obligated to buy it becasue otherwise it locks them out of a whole bunch of content.

[@Corrosivewizardgaming]

Love knight rider, Ghostbusters back to the future etc but felt there wasn't enough stuff for each. I've seen some pretty cool stuff made with the limited stuff we did get but personally if your gonna give me stuff like that I want a lot more so I can make what I want not make what I can with a very limited amount of content ​@@Petpatrol2

[@Will-v2p2n]

My only bug is the water slide physics please frontier I’m begging u!!!!!

[@Zweistein752]

I really hope they bring the toolmakers objects back.

[@Petpatrol2]

I'll be honest - personally - I don't! I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I just think elaborate theming was so much more impressive beofre the toolmakers kit. Because you knew everything you saw was repurposed from something already in the game, so if you saw something that you didn't know was possible - that was impressive as hell! With the toolmaker's kit I foudn that the fact you can practiclally import anything made whatever I saw look less impressive, because it jsut felt like soemone 3D modeled it rather than cobble it together. It's kind of like how CGI in movies can make cool effects seem less impressive.

[@davidvagnell6317]

Hopefully they add more scenarios with each dlc

[@Petpatrol2]

^This. I am relaly hoping for this. I'm so much more likely to buy DLCs that come with scenarios.

[@gregg5958]

I’m not sure what people are looking for when they say it looks the same. What are they expecting it to look like? I would like to hear a description. I’d LOVE to see the Hexentanz ride in the game too. Knott’s Berry Farm used to have one and it was my favorite flat ride. My last ride on it was quite memorable. The normal cycle was over, the lap bar popped up and I got out…only no one else did. Because they could not, their bars were still locked. Then the ride started up again! I QUICKLY ran to the exit so I did not get hit. I had heard they were having issues with the ride and guess I got to experience that firsthand. It wasn’t long after that that it was yanked out. Another ride from that park with similar electrical issues were the Intamin parachute ride which had a mind of their own. I would like to see them in the game too. An additional coaster that I think is currently missing is the Steeplechase coaster. Really need that for my Knott’s recreation. As for cattle-pen queue lines, there isn’t anything to fix. They are there. They showed the menu for queue lines last week on their Steam livestream. There are three separate buttons to build certain ways. The middle button was the old Planco1 way. This is how you’ll do them. You could see them in the TiKTok video stream they did over the weekend.

[@Petpatrol2]

looked the same - well, like i said, overall i'm happy with the way planet coaster 2 looks, and i think there's more reasons for it to look the same than look any different. BUT to get into a complaining mindset for a second - by "not looking the same" i would probably be looking at anything that's stylized - the way guests look, the colors (which some people complain are too saturated or whatever. but... duh it's an amusement park game of course they use strong colors, it's part of the vibe), assets being identical (like, if they were TRYING to make irt look different they could maybe remake some of the less popular assets like the star flyer, etc), the lack of 3D grass etc. I'm very HAPPY at all the benefits looking the same gives this game, I'm just saying, I think that's what the people complaining it looks the same have in mind. hexentanz - that's the one i rode too, and i've been in lvoe with that ride ever since! I've only ridden it once, like 21 years ago, but it was so much fun i still remember it! It's why i'm hoping to see it! I wouldn't necessarily *MIND* seeing a steeplechase coaster, in the same sense that any new additional coaster type is a bonus, but i have to admit as far as coaster types to get made, that's probably one of the least exciting ones for me personally, because they're very limited in what they can do and they're not very common anymore nowadays. But... I'm confused, knott's recreation? does... knott's have a steeplechase nowadays? cattlepen - yup, that's why i didn't include it in the list. even before i saw them in the tiktok i knew there'd proabbyl be some way to make them, so i wasn't worried.

[@gregg5958]

@@Petpatrol2 Knott’s doesn’t have one today, but they were the first park (Only 1 of 2) to build a modern day steeplechase ride in the form of motorcycles which later became a soapbox ride which was much better and safer for guests. (I used to work there and helped test that ride so it is near and dear to my heart). I want to create somewhat of a mix with both current and old rides that I liked at Knott’s. In other words, what it would look like if I owned it.

[@Potholet]

Planet coaster looks the same due to the art style more than anything, the lighting abd graphics uphaul etc is the main difference... BUT THE ART STYLE IS GORGEOUS. I'd have been so upset if they changed it.

[@stephanczuray4408]

mir ist denk ich der gröbste Störfaktors aufgefallen ohne jener Bemerkung. Alle freuen sich über die Skalierung aber wie? Nur größer und kleiner im allgemeinen oder in der länge und höhe was ich besser fände? Sieht bloß nicht danach aus.

[@Petpatrol2]

I'm fine with it being overall size. After all it's a game, not a 3D modeling program, and it's still much more than we had before, so I'm happy!

[@Utilize_music]

I really want to see a mack Stryker. Would be amazing to see Some awesome elements like a turntable. Hopefully with launch like voltron. But we probably Will not get it..

[@Petpatrol2]

why not? i'm pretty sure it was a DLC for planco 1, except without some of the newer elements, i definitely see it as a possibility for a DLC

[@isaacmartin-bensley1463]

great vid, just wanna say copperhead is a mack LSM and not an intamin blitz

[@Petpatrol2]

@@isaacmartin-bensley1463 thanks! yeah, so i've been told ^^;

[@mats_x5133]

Also, from a lot of videos planet coaster 2 seems more optimized with less lag than planet coaster 1?

[@guitaraobscura8802]

In the steam livestream they showed off the first person and were able to click on rides to ride them in that mode.

[@Petpatrol2]

I meant more like in Theme Park World where you just walked up to a ride and when you reached the entrance it woudl seat you on it, but that's good too.

[@guitaraobscura8802]

@@Petpatrol2 that is exactly how it works. They walked up to the ride and clicked to ride it which is exactly what you do in Theme Park World. It's not seamless in that game either

[@Petpatrol2]

@@guitaraobscura8802 huh, awesome! very exciting, then

[@ADAMMIG]

I’m excited for this one I’ve never played the first one I love being creative so I feel like I would love this game

[@eg6490]

Some people might not agree with me, but I just don’t want tie in dlc. It just kinda devalues the world to me. And in a way dates the dlc too (case dependent, but I hope the idea stands).

[@rlas]

So you mentioned how animals can climb anything in PlanZoo, why not implement that mechanic for PlanCo 2 to build playgrounds. Could be restricted to certain items or so but it doesn't seem like they would have to re-invent the wheel for playgrounds.

[@Petpatrol2]

that's what i'm saying, but obviously it'll still have to be reworked quite a bit. not impossible though, i think.

[@M_Uchiha]

Haha I love Hexentanz, just rode it a week ago!

[@Petpatrol2]

Lucky! Where'd you get to ride it?

[@M_Uchiha]

@Petpatrol2 At Bocholter Kirmes! It's every year in October for four days in my hometown :)

[@Petpatrol2]

@@M_Uchiha Luckyyyy!

[@thechristmaspyjamas]

My biggest disappointment is the Hotels and restaurants. The Restaurants were great in Planet Zoo and I just can't understand why they aren't in PC2. I am sure they will be added as a DLC though!

[@Petpatrol2]

Agreed.

[@mattomicgaming1859]

I am gonna guess because they’ve included so many rollercoasters in the base game, they will release DLCs for the missing hotels etc.

[@Petpatrol2]

I'm aware, like I said i evne assume this is the case, but that's still a problem, I explained why in the video.

[@Byus0508]

I really would love to see the Vekoma STC and the new gen tilt coaster

[@Petpatrol2]

well, tilt coasters are now in the game, at least, even if the track shape is still old-style.

[@derdugati7126]

For me, there are a few things: Raytracing and Performance. The ride pads are still way too big. And whoever decided to make the ride pad on the Zamperla Nebulaz a square.. a round one would be fit much better. And yes. As of planet coaster 1 somebody at Frontier still makes quirky and questionable decisions 😂😂😂❤

[@Drpiggyshospital]

Maybe they will be added in a update (restaurants and hotels)

[@Petpatrol2]

probably! I don't doubt it! My issue is that I think it was a miss not to incoporate them into the game's main campaign and the resort theme.

[@jarmoliebrand2005]

15:29 This is actually a Mack Multilaunch coaster.

[@Petpatrol2]

So I'm told. I'll admit I have trouble telling them apart!

[@Fuzzycatfur]

0:15 Don't worry about it, speak your mind and ignore them. The whole shit on the critics is a running theme with the Frontier games crowd. You can point out how a game 20-30 years ago did something far better on hardware that outdated. You can say how Frontier can implement those to their game and the positive addition it'll be, and their fanbase will start screeching like you just kicked in the door, shot their favorite pet with a tazer and kicked them in the nuts. Don't worry about them, just be real.

[@SPRidley]

Concern 11 is my major problem with the game right now. What they have (not) done with the theme park water rides and tower attractions should have been screamed from every rooftop. Like WTF Frontier. I know most of the old team is not at Frontier anymore, but you are telling me they didnt knew about the concern we talk with Sam Denney about them a million times in the past, that actually got s a test with the condor, and you thought that they only big problem were the fucking paths?

[@Aaronfps2]

Adding first person makes me think they may eventually add VR support

[@Petpatrol2]

I wouldn't hold my breath for that. As a former VR enthusiast it doesn't seem likely to me. Even when cities skyliens added VR support it was a whole new, separate game, with much lower end grpahics. planco 2 is way too elaborate for that, I believe.

[@hectordelacruz5365]

Will the new game have moon phases. I felt that planet coaster 2 was too bright at night and it would be nice to have customizable phases. I also did a lot of work with the show lighting and the sequence controller, will there be any improvements to this?

[@Petpatrol2]

there's a new event sequencer that looks more like RCT3's and should be easier to work with. it's not clear yet if there will be fireworks and lightshows in the game on release or if it's jsut for special effects right now, but either way I think it's a safe bet that they will be added in later.

[@StevenSwanJr]

WAIT ARE WE NOT GETTING HORROR HEIGHTS FOR PLANET COASTER 2 OR IS IT GONNA BE A DLC AGAIN

[@Petpatrol2]

according to vampiro's list of confirmed rides it's not confirmed yet. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a DLC.

[@wzthshaahhshbdvdjrg]

The absence of separate unload and load stations really ruins themed rides

[@Tmoney36]

Do we know that the cloud runner wing coaster isn’t going to be in the game or not

[@Petpatrol2]

It is, there's been a lot of people complaining about how they got the restraints wrong on the planco 2 version. But at least it's in the game!

[@rlas]

I might even buy this game. I stopped playing PlanCo after 20 hours cause I couldn't cope with the pathing system. I am very relieved to see a completely new path building mechanic. Really bummed that they didnt postpone PlanZoo and added that there as well. It's the only reason I am not buying that game.

[@supramusng]

I need the SLC and a Blitz added at some point… so bizarre not to include them

[@Petpatrol2]

@@supramusng i still don't get the difference between a blitz and the mack launched that's in the game