Planing a Weiler LZ280 lathe bed

Restoring main geometry of a worn Weiler LZ 280 lathe. Planing the bed and reworking tail stock bottom part and the sadle bottom.

[@guzzijohn66]

The only thing better than watching a shaper make chips is watching a planer making chips.

[@jansverrehaugjord9934]

Well explained and done, Henrik! Extremely nice actually :) This must be the answer to "home shop/hobbyist" demand for renovating older machines to get these accurate again

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks Jan, ah although it brings something essentially out of order to working condition its not to compare with a proffesionell rebuild. The best thing is that from here most every one mechanically inclined can do the rest.

[@blakehorton8110]

​@@henrikandren6967 would scrapping be the next step ???

[@mackellyman5642]

Remember to water the tree on the shop floor. Excellent content.

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks, and yah that orange tree have a hard life during winter here. It's a bit more happy now 🙂

[@123bugness]

So relaxing. I could watch for hours!

[@henrikandren6967]

Please do 😀

[@asmithh2697]

What is crazy I understand what you did even though I have never done it! Great job! Thank you

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks! 🙂

[@iandibley8032]

Very interesting video, a beautiful job, this will give the lathe many years of accurate work. That bed had a significant amount of wear .This lathe looked in a general tidy condition as a machinist. I am fanatical cleaning the bed if anything abrasive has been used and regular lubing. Long-term accuracy depends on the bed and slide condition.

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks for your kind words and you're spot on regarding cleaning and lubrication. I sent along some extra oilers to be installed.

[@sulebifas9248]

Bagai mana cara memesan nya dan tau harganya

[@kooldoozer]

I have a Rockford hydraulic planer. Love to watch your videos. ---Doozer

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks, there's a few more in the pipeline 🙂

[@jacqueso8424]

Very interesting machine, planer for metal surfaces. Cutting tools like lathe, works similar principal of shaper machine. 1st time i see this type of machine. Hope we get to see next part where remainder of work described end this video is shown. Otherwise, keep up the good work

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks, there's more coming 🙂

[@OlaSkytteren]

Wow this is awesome 😍

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks! 😊

[@simon3065]

Very well done 👌

[@henrikandren6967]

Thank you 😊

[@tonisiqueira9543]

Simplesmente um plainamento de mestre parabéns pelo trabalho show 🇧🇷🙏

[@henrikandren6967]

Thank you sir!

[@ralfralf7443]

Hervorragende Arbeit 👍👍

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks!

[@ionolaru7441]

o adevarata lectie !

[@JoseAguilar-oq2mi]

I love the song at second 32, true colors by CYNDI LAUPER.

[@eXactModellbau]

Die Eier muss man erstmal haben, sein Drehbankbett auf den Hobel zu legen. Die Vorher-Messung funktioniert natürlich nur, wenn man der Geometrie des Hobels 100%ig vertrauen kann. Ist das gegeben?

[@henrikandren6967]

This is google translate both ways so bare with me... Ja und nein... Die Vorher-Messung wie am 2:21min sind nur indikativ, ganz richtigt. Es sind eine aggregat von Planer längsbevegung und drehbenk aber es ist gut. Wie bei allen alten Maschinen müssen Sie wissen, wie sie funktionieren. Zum einen habe ich Arbeitsproben gemacht, um zu evaluieren, wie es läuft. Zum einen gibt es einen Zwischenschritt, den ich glaube ich in einem anderen Film gezeigt zu haben, wo ich vor dem letzten Feinschnitt eine Kontrollmessung mit einem Scheuerlineal durchführe. Hat auch ein Video des Testschnitts in voller Länge. Die Eier sind im Nest ;-) Sehr gute und intressant Arbeit in Ihren Videos!

[@eXactModellbau]

@@henrikandren6967 Vielen Dank für die Antwort. 👍 Was ist denn Ihre Muttersprache?

[@henrikandren6967]

Meine muttersprach sind Schwedisch, oder Svenska som vi säger här 🙂

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks!

[@FrustratedBaboon]

That is some high-precision accuracy. I bought a Grizzly lathe and it is a hunk of junk. I am so sad that I don't know how to fix it.

[@devmeistersuperprecision4155]

Awsome Planer. What planer do you have?

[@BigBoss-rh7zq]

No hardened ways ? Hope your planer is well aligned too.

[@henrikandren6967]

It's has no hard ways, just had a hard life ;-) In fact it is very easy cutting material. And yes, the planer is set-up and tested.

[@tuju-]

@@henrikandren6967and if they were hardened, would you still have been able to cut it?

[@henrikandren6967]

No, not like this. I do have a small grinding head adapted to fit but I'm still to put it to use as I'm concerned about grinding stuff and it's definitely not set up for flood cooling.

[@tuju-]

@@henrikandren6967 i wonder how it works, if the stone wears to smaller diameter, is it compensated somehow to make the result flat?

[@henrikandren6967]

I'm no grinderhand but I'd think it wear in the similar amounts as other cutters and I think one dress the wheels for sharpness before they go that much out of size. Maybe some expert on grinding can give you a better answer. For me I'd be more concerned with heat build up.

[@IchigoKurusaki1985]

Question, how much wear do you get on tooling like that? How often is it checked? Just curious on the procedure on that with such exacting dimensions.

[@henrikandren6967]

In terms of carbide tool wear, it is insignificant. Imagine and compare to similar tool in a lathe. Say a cutting speed at least 10X and a dia 200 shaft 1m long gives a cutting length of 120m. Just for reference. Back to the question. The edge is diamond lapped sharp and keen, that's what I check. Sharpness and no damages by means of nail shaving and feeling plus visual loupe inspection.

[@hamcheeseenterprises6975]

would it be ground after the planing? or is planing enough to get it into spec

[@henrikandren6967]

Depends on the spec i guess... If it was to be ground I think it wouldn´t make sense to plane it first. If one wants to it is very possible to scrape finish it after planing it, relatively little work compared to before planing. Now you´d only need to modify the surface and make sure to not alter any flatness or alignment. Otoh, having planed it for smoothnes and the material cut butter smooth, the result after deburring with a ground precision stone really makes you think trice before starting doing anything else to it... I have though planed other cast irons where I would not feel satisfied with the planed finish for a sliding surface. So it might depend on the case at hand as well.

[@devmeistersuperprecision4155]

Depends. Some lathes have hardened beds and these are best ground. Often, the last bit is accuracy is obtained from hand scraping of the planed surface

[@sheriffroylambifs894]

99 + % = PERFECT !!!

[@henrikandren6967]

Thanks for your kind words 😊

[@fernanfelipejuradoespinosa131]

Por falta de aceite 10w40 es que se desgaste de hierro colado

[@tropifiori]

The tailstock of my lathe ( flat ways) is less worn than the headstock end. Can I just switch ends the headstock is on to make the lathe better? I rarely turn really long things.

[@henrikandren6967]

There is nothing really wrong with your thinking in terms using the un worn end of the lathe, I have however a hard time picturing a configuration facilitating it somewhat easy. Some lathes had loose V-prisms that could be turned around, right or wrong.

[@quanghuynguyen6950]

Hà nội việt nam thanhs you

[@henrikandren6967]

Thank you!

[@tuju-]

Hope the shaper bed is well lubricated or it will need machining too :)

[@henrikandren6967]

It is indeed, it has an automatic oiling system feeding each side of the V-prisms individually with a heavy flow rate. I run it for quite some time to make sure the oil feed and film is steady before measuring or making chips

[@tuju-]

@@henrikandren6967 compared to lathe, its ways are used a lot more.

[@tuju-]

Wonder how the world’s first shaper was done.

[@DerrangedGadgeteer]

Very carefully

[@toplist2613]

Does any one know of a reference for doing this kind of operation without the use of machinery?

[@henrikandren6967]

Edward Connelly, Machine Tool recondition.

[@jimsvideos7201]

CNC planer?

[@jml3327]

You offering?

[@henrikandren6967]

No, just a normal old planer. Only replaced the belt drive with electric motor and VFD.

[@abramfriesen9834]

I have a lathe that's to be done

[@melitonalvarezbaez2158]

El cepillo tendría q estar 0 para dejar la bancada también 0

[@robertpearson8546]

So different from the way the Indians/Pakistanis cast a lathe bed out of crap and plane the result to resemble a lathe bed.