Planning Exercise Tutorial for Army Officer, RAF Officer and Royal Navy Officer selection

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[@him050]

This a great example to get your head into the game with these sorts of problems, but just be warned they are more complicated than this on the day. You're not going to have calculations as simple as figuring out how long it will take to travel 280 miles at 70 miles an hour. The problem we had, had a lot of going back and forth and timing things so you could cross paths with someone else. At one point someone even said, "this is a bit like the fox, chicken, and grain puzzle." 😂 To put it into context, the level of complexity that would be added to this problem would be like (I'm not being specific here) you have to have this extra bit of equipment in order to get the sailor to hospital safely. He can manage without it for two hours. Jerry can bring it all the way but it will take him an hour, Sophie can bring it halfway in 25 minutes, but you'll have to take a detour to get it. Or you could just get it yourself en route taking a longer route. With all that considered, now what is the fastest route?

[@CareerVidz]

You can download 8 planning exercises to help you prepare just below the video!

[@winterwanderer8573]

On the first route at 20:35, it says that the bridge is open at 30 minutes past for 12 minutes and it takes 10 minutes to cross. You arrive at 35 minutes past, which means you wouldnt be allowed to cross due to a lack of time before the gate lifts. You would have to wait until 10 minutes to the hour before you cross.

[@adrianfrift7571]

I thought that as well, turns out they keep it open as soon as you start crossing

[@donalddarko4871]

That is the window you have to begin the cross, otherwise you have a 2 min window which is silly. Think about it.

[@eddydyer2997]

Got AOSB at Westbury next Tuesday, thanks for the help!

[@jasonwahome8266]

How did it go where the planning exercises anything like this video?

[@simonbates1918]

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[@ryanveal6303]

I have done a few planning exercises and the calculations are always a lot more difficult rather than simple 40/40=1 type calculation,it would be great to see methods/demonstrations of more complicated sums which require the conversion of time/speed to a decimal 6mins=0.1!Great video but would be great to see something talked through that is a little more difficult 👍

[@DDDelgado]

19:57 I see it differently, yeah the bridge is open but it takes 10 minutes to cross it, and it is opened for 12 minutes. The ambulance gets at the bridge at 12:35 h, even though it is opened they won't let us in because the bridge will have to remain opened over 12 minutes. if the bridge is a movable one, then you cannot be on the bridge outside the 12 minute window period. You then wait for the next one at 12:50, you have to wait 15 minutes. I agree with kylerobertm

[@CareerVidz]

Thanks! More here: www.how2become.com/planning-exercises-army-officer-raf-officer-royal-navy-officer-selection-processes/

[@him050]

With these exercises you can actually argue points like that (in fact that's what they're actively looking for). No where in the question brief does it say the rules about being allowed to enter the bridge or when it closes. It tells you the bridge entrance is open for 12 minutes at the specified times and it takes ten minutes to cross. Nowhere does it say that you must enter the bridge with enough time to cross before it closes.

[@user-jc1km1qv1m]

Its similar to group planning exercise in ssb in indian

[@user-jc1km1qv1m]

It is very similar to indian commissoned officers selectiin in armd forces

[@andrewcumming7212]

On Question 4 you have said that as we arrive at the bridge at 13:00 it will still be open so we will be able to cross. I do not believe so, this may just be me interpreting the ambiguity in the scenario differently but I would say that if the bridge is only open for 12min at a time and and a crossing takes 10min then if the bridge opened at 12:50 it would allow vehicles onto the bridge for 2 mins and then stop. This would allow 10mins for the vehicles on the bridge to finish crossing and the bridge would then remain empty from 13:02 till 13:10 when it would then allow vehicles on for another 2mins. So in my interpretation the ambulance would arrive at 13:00 wait 10mins till it was allowed on the bridge then cross in 10mins bringing the time to 13:20 and finally drive to the hospital in 1 hour arriving at the hospital at 14:20. The exercise could be clearer but I guess its all about the maths and if you can back it up more than anything!

[@ryanthompson525]

Backing it up is very important! When I did my briefing they said assume actions are instantaneous. I. E treating injured people, calling someone, refueling a vehicle, crossing a bridge. I skimmed through your comment and just added this sorry if it's not helpful :)

[@jasonwahome8266]

@@ryanthompson525 Would you not agree with Andrew Cumming's explanation?

[@jamessmith-ps3zr]

@@ryanthompson525 shhhhh

[@RyanB0306]

got RAF officer selection on Tuesday, thanks for the tips!

[@BernardsSumner]

Tuesday the 15th or Tuesday the 8th?

[@RyanB0306]

Alfred the Great well I'm on the 2nd day of it now so the 8th!

[@BernardsSumner]

Best of luck with your interview and fitness test. I'm down there next week. Any tips from your experience?

[@RyanB0306]

Alfred the Great well I may not pass yet lol. It's more laid back than I expected here and the assessors are giving tips to candidates during plan ex's and designated leader task which I wouldn't expect...

[@bravosix8171]

How did it went? Please please please tell me

[@willavery8542]

Surely you couldn't cross the gate bridge straight away as you arrive at 35 past, it opens at half past for 12 minutes, meaning it shuts at 42 past, and you're saying you will arrive at the other side at 45 past.... Is this allowed?

[@andrewcumming7212]

I had the exact same thought, I can't see how it would be allowed as it is not mathematically possible in the exercises bounds.

[@ecedemirel-downer1223]

Q2 - I do not agree with the part that we could cross the bridge on time. When the sailor arrives at Flitterby at 10:20 and is loaded by 10:25 and then the travel time takes 10 minutes which takes us to 10:35 and yes the bridge is still open at this point however the bridge is only open for 12 minutes from 10:30 therefore it is supposed to be closed by 10:32 sharp and we are already running behind by 3 minutes to be on the other side therefore it is not viable.

[@him050]

I'm not disagreeing with you (I actually agree with you), but just to let you know that with these exercises you can argue points like that. So in this case one could argue that the bridge is open and the time to cross it is not a factor as to whether or not you can enter it. It doesn't specify in the question that you can only enter the bridge if you have enough time to cross it.

[@adnankhan880]

There is a book not a link to download 8 planning exercises

[@CareerVidz]

Sorry... it's here www.how2become.com/planning-exercises-army-officer-raf-officer-royal-navy-officer-selection-processes/

[@Enviouskibbles]

Are you allowed a calculator?

[@nathancotta]

Enviouskibbles no.

[@DrSpecialful]

if the bridge is open, surely that means you can't cross in a car? You will fall in the water. Also, if the bridge is open for 12 mins and closed for 8 minutes and a crossing takes 10 mins, then either we can't get across the bridge, or there are only 3 windows of two minutes in which we can begin to cross.

[@CareerVidz]

If the bridge is 'open', it means it's open for crossing. If it was 'raised' you would fall into the water, not 'open'. The Dartford Bridge is currently 'open', which means you can cross it. If the bridge is open for 12 minutes, it means people can start crossing for the duration of the 12 minutes it is open. Once it is closed, no further crossings are permitted.

[@DrSpecialful]

@@CareerVidz If a car starts crossing just as they close the bridge. Then they will reopen the bridge in 8 minutes, but it takes 10 minutes to cross. So the entire time the bridge is closed there is a car on it, so why close it?

[@CareerVidz]

You're clearly far too intelligent for this type of job, Alex. Try applying for a job as an Astronaut.

[@DrSpecialful]

@@CareerVidz haha i wish. I have to take this test soon and am worried I'll get tripped up on the language

[@CareerVidz]

Hi Alex, I think there's a danger of overthinking the brief. Like I say, you're clearly very intelligent but just focus on tackling the situation/problem. The assessors are looking for you to find a solution to the problem and to also assess how good your Speed, Distance and Time calculations are. My advice is to make sure you can answer SDT quetsions in your head. There's a useful Speed, Distance and Time website (FREE) at the following link: www.speeddistancetime.info/test Good luck with the test and I hope you pass.

[@jasonwahome8266]

Would anyone know who's been to the AOSB main board know if the planning exercises are this simple?

[@CareerVidz]

Hi Jason, Don't forget to give our sister website a try for SDT questions: speeddistancetime.info

[@jasonwahome8266]

@@CareerVidz Have already checked it out thanks! So are the planning exercises actually like this?

[@mileshull307]

No theyre slightly more difficult. This is just a simple run through

[@mileshull307]

Jason Wahome when do you have main board?

[@jasonwahome8266]

@@mileshull307 Cheers for the reply mate. How did you find them at AOSB? Were they the same format get to A from B kinda thing? Did you go to AOSB recently? Sorry for all the questions lol

[@05lmcmahon]

Why simplify it, couldn't understand the original?

[@kellerr13]

Why is it in miles when the U.K. uses metric?

[@patrickbiggar345]

What UK do you know? The UK uses Miles