Plant Based Diets Won't Help | Peter Ballerstedt PhD

Peter Ballerstedt earned his bachelor’s and master’s degrees at the University of Georgia and his doctorate at the University of Kentucky. He was the forage extension specialist at Oregon State University from 1986 to 1992. He worked in the forage seed industry from 2011 until 2023. He is a member of several national and international scientific societies, participates in related global initiatives, and is the current President of the American Forage and Grassland Council. Peter is an advocate for ruminant animal agriculture and the essential role of animal source foods in the human diet.
In this episode we discuss:
- What are ruminants and why are they important?
- The misleading way protein is calculated in plant products.
- How to make sense of current dietary guidelines.
- Should you eat more plants?
00:00:00 The importance of meat, eggs, dairy, seafood
00:02:54 The Sodfather of the Ruminant
00:04:33 Healthy Diets
00:06:32 Peter's Journey
00:08:41 Ruminants
00:19:11 Plant Based Food
00:21:10 Food Labels Are Wrong
00:25:49 Dietary Guidelines: Non-Protein Protein
00:36:21 Greenhouse Gas Emissions
00:39:45 Carbohydrate Restriction
00:46:05 Optimal Protein
00:51:08 Protein and Diabetes
00:54:51 Vegetarian vs Animal Sources
01:00:38 The Importance of Lysine
01:10:00 Ruminant Animal and Livestock
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[@mattdonlan7745]

According to the RDA, I should be eating 60-80 grams of protein a day. I eat around 200 grams. I'm 54 and I do strength training 3 times a week. I've never been stronger or happier with my health. I plan on sticking to this for the rest of my days. About half of my protein comes from meat and eggs and the other half comes from whey protein shakes with heavy cream and butter in them.

[@rwh4114]

Wow, wish I could do that. My lipid profile would be off the charts. Lucky you

[@erikahollister]

Keep learning about lipids. My profile has improved with this type of diet. There's a lot of research happening on this topic. On keto my good HDL is up, bad triglycerides down and LDL type improved. I eat eggs, butter, beef, meat and cheese every day.@@rwh4114

[@Michelle_wald]

@@rwh4114 I wonder if the person has had their blood work done ?

[@valkiriaceleste]

Amazing conversation. Dr. I have to tell you that since the consumption of fatty meat has increased I have felt better, my sugar levels are controlled and I feel with more energy and mental clarity, I realized that I have an intolerance to vegetables.

[@katheryncraig6897]

Great podcast! So much nutrition info is driven by marketing and politics instead of science. Thank you Gabrielle and Peter.

[@peachhipgirl75]

I’m at approximately 50 grams of carbs and 130 grams of protein per day. I lift weights 4 times per week and walk or jog 1.5 to 2 miles 4 times per week as well. I’m 47 years old. This seems to fit within my threshold. Everyone is different. Find your own limits. I have tried full carnivore, but I have a problem with electrolytes. Again, find what works for you! I’m not diabetic. I come from a family of diabetics. I know what works for me. This is a lifetime commitment. If you want to take care of yourself, it’s worth it!

[@peachhipgirl75]

@@AlastrionaS thank you, I will check her out!

[@timcastle9506]

You have a problem with electrolytes, ever heard of salt?

[@peachhipgirl75]

@@timcastle9506 some people when they drink plenty of electrolytes still have an issue. I have plenty of electrolyte waters with plenty of salt and potassium. I also drink water as well. Don’t presume to know that I have no idea how to add electrolytes to my diet.

[@timcastle9506]

@@peachhipgirl75 I didn't " presume" anything. It's your post.

[@peachhipgirl75]

@@timcastle9506 that was a snarky comment that wasn’t necessary on your part. It was obvious.

[@lynnecobb9399]

I love Peter Ballerstedt...been following him for many years!

[@brodietaym8475]

This is definitely one of your better episodes Dr Lyon. He's a great guest and I wish you would have felt comfortable to share more because it seems like what he has to say would resonate with so many people and it is kind of information everybody's looking for

[@lilianlilian9461]

Phenomenal conversation. Thank you!

[@jodycameron-roy2544]

This is fantastic! Right up there with the podcasts you've done with Donald laymen and stu phiilips. Thank you

[@joerockhead7246]

thank you.

[@pepesmama7515]

Dr Ballerstadt is amazing! ❤

[@victoriarubio7859]

Amazing information 👑🌟 Thank you.

[@Michelle_wald]

This video makes me consider a more paleo approach . love this we so needed this information !!!

[@Westlakemarket]

Great information! I was noticing he has a nice looking hammer dulcimer behind him. I should dust mine off and play it!

[@chuckleezodiac24]

this bro is delightful af.

[@user-vh9bq2mp7i]

Most people don't eat PLANT BASED nothing... All processed foods. Most people don't eat whole foods

[@robinq5511]

The Paleo Valley Beef Sticks are excellent and they give a good discount if you buy them in quantity (I do) - back to the show....

[@HuibNederhof]

Just some facts. There are about 7 areas on Earth, the so-called Blue zones, where people become very healthy over the age of 100. What is striking is that they all eat very little or no meat. In addition, there are absolute top athletes such as Hamilton and Djokovic who make their performances on a plant-based diet. A request to Fr. Gebrielle. When will you, to compensate for all those people who support your views, invite Stanford's Professor Christopher Gardner for a interview?

[@carnivoreRon]

The blue zones don't exist except in propaganda from vegans/vegetarians.

[@jellybeanvinkler4878]

Not really true about the blue zones. Listen to people who have lived in some of the blue zones. Diet is very much meat based. But lifestyle may be key.

[@hugoanderkivi]

​@@jellybeanvinkler4878Well, of course the diet is the key since it is meat-based. Other things like exercise, community, sense of purpose, etc., all contribute, but the diet is the foundation.

[@tracycooper25]

Was a vegan for 30 years, was diagnosed as T1D due to high carb foods. became a carnivore and now I have never felt better.

[@felipearbustopotd]

6:20 👍

[@SPR77]

👍🏾

[@beardumaw24]

Will never do a plant diet again ! Animal foods based diet only, that made me health again after a plant based diet made me sick.

[@adelarsen9776]

Regenerative Ruminant Revolution. 7 days without beef makes one weak.

[@robertthompson5501]

Ezekisl bread, sprouted wheat berries. A small, pleasant source of protein. Make an egg salad sandwich. 🙏🏻👹🏋🏻

[@natpaolone3897]

Why is anyone who believes vegan is healthy, listening to this podcast? Dr Lyon is science based not narrative based.

[@gore-geousmombie4686]

​@@natpaolone3897It's called hearing both sides. Something you people can't possibly do lol

[@natpaolone3897]

@@gore-geousmombie4686 actually science doesn’t have sides. Not sure who “you people”are, but again, confirmation bias drives the average persons beliefs, not evidence based science.

[@gore-geousmombie4686]

@@natpaolone3897 You're right, that was my point... However, it CAN be unbiased. All you keto people are biased about "facts" and misconstrue it with completely antidotal evidence as opposed to solid evidence. I follow people who are not biased with the actual scientific studies they share and they do not sell things or provide links other than the actual research...A vegan who can do a video on the benefits of carnivore because it's actually science based... Without watching the video first, I couldn't possibly tell you what a load of crap it is or I'd be biased...

[@napua5217]

Ezekiel bread was one of my favorites when I was 55lbs heavier then I am now, it’s one of the things I cut out along with other processed carbs Ezekiel bread is unfortunately a processed carbohydrates and should be eaten sparingly, if at all. Whole wheat berries Vs whole wheat berries that have been pulverized and made into a slice of bread are digested very differently- Robert Lustig has been a wealth of knowledge helping me understand that bread is a treat and not a way to get protein or nutrients

[@gore-geousmombie4686]

Science based but you have affiliated links 🤦🏻‍♀️😂

[@HoneyHollowHomestead]

God created the ruminants and the humans. God told Noah that he was to take 7 pairs of all the "clean" animals (ruminants). His design is amazing!

[@dolorespense3781]

Amen to God’s care for Us All , he designed you , you are Not an animal : You are descended from Adam and Eve ; as In Genesis First chapters there. And we have Many truths about are dietary health as in certain fish and animals that are described as unclean . So God designed Our bodies and gave us 10 commandments to cause us To Gide Us the Way To prosper and please Their Creator . This podcast is Very interesting ! And -( if I Can Share -)- Isiah 41: 4;- Who Hath Wrought and done it , ? Calling the generations from The beginnin ? I The Lord , The First , and With The Last; I am He. ----( but Gabriel ; Said is ;- Man do 1:05:2 Not live by bread Alone but by every word That proceeds from the mouth of God . -+ Revelation 4: 11……..- that’s Gods food that Will keep us Spiritually first then Everything else will be added : Matthew 6: 33…………❤

[@dolorespense3781]

Hi I responded about the Unclean animals + fish and talked about how We are Not like the animals + God Was an Wonderful and is Still Wonderful , Our Everlasting King And Most high God and and as I had also said He Will return To This Earth , but are You Following Him for We were Made for his Pleasure before all Other. Pursuits “……..And thank You Gabriel to Feed This body so we can ❤ and be healthier So we can be Stronger ! So I will share this knowledge with my Grown children , they as the word declares : Blessings from the Lord , I believed That and called the Seed of The Lord . That’s why I know each one as. You know is very Good gift as all called from the beginning , Yes I will add Thank You have done it by Giving Us the desire to❤ have a New heart to Seek him first : - ( Not ashamed )- hear ……Matthew 6: 33…..( and ❤ him …..

[@HudsonValleyPlanet]

While there is good information here it’s not fair, or factual, to scare parents about feeding their children a vegetarian diet. My son, and many others I know, were raised vegetarian and of course with breast milk at an early age. They all grew up strong, smart and athletic. If they had been fed processed foods rather than high quality vegetarian food I’m sure their health would have suffered. My point is that not all plant based diets are the same. If parents do their research and use high quality vege protein, fats and carbs then there’s no need for meat. Just look at all the top athletes in the world who are vegetarian.

[@dinomiles7999]

Bryan Johnson Blueprint, Ai will soon take the guess work out of it and all gurus and snake oil salesmen will soon. Don't die, see you in 2500.

[@ki5ngau]

And yet these kids have no signs of cardio vascular diseases where as kids in the US in the same age range have cardio vascular diseases.

[@lalitoberoi9152]

Look at the alkaline pH of our saliva compared to acidic pH of carnivores.

[@thomassaddul6070]

Not the saliva dude. Human Stomach PH is acidic.

[@Subtlenimbus]

Even if you are referring to some actual observation, so what? The alkalinity BS is just more marketing garbage that you Hoover up to try and justify your shitty diet.

[@lalitoberoi9152]

Some support Paleo Diet but are we living in Paleolithic age. Millions of years are between Paleolithic Age and today. Most recently we started agriculture and ate millets, vegetables, pulses, lentils, eggs and A2 milk. Meat was only reserved as a delicacy for once in a while.

[@natpaolone3897]

This episode has absolutely nothing to do with paleo diet. Zero.

[@Subtlenimbus]

Wrong. The Paleolithic Age extends between 2.5 million years ago until about 10,000 years ago - the cusp of the Agricultural Revolution, and a relative eye-blink in evolutionary time. The Paleo diet focuses on food people were probably eating before domesticated cereal crops were the staples. Pastoralism was also a thing, as humans discovered the benefit in domesticating the animals they ate.

[@lalitoberoi9152]

Look at the long length of our intestine which is not suited for meats. All carnivores have short intestinal lengths.

[@natpaolone3897]

Not based on science. Please ask Dr Lyon

[@Subtlenimbus]

Reading your comments is like watching a cartoon where the dupe keeps stepping on rakes every direction he tries to go, getting smacked in the face every time. Humans have a very SHORT digestive system compared to other apes. It is also much more acidic than the system of a herbivore. That is how biologists know that humans are adapted primarily for meat-eating. In fact, the ONLY essential nutrients for humans are found in animal products.

[@jellybeanvinkler4878]

​@@Subtlenimbus😂😂😂 that was great and so true!

[@lalitoberoi9152]

What about the fat in meats? Even grass-fed meat fat is problematic if eaten too much. Your total fat calories should not be more than 10% of you daily calorie intake. Plant based diet reduced metabolic disease burden. Eggs and Milk in moderation are very good foods. But too much of meat will overshoot your fat allowance.

[@mattdonlan7745]

10% is very low for fat. I eat around 50% fat and 50% protein. I've never been healthier. Plants seems to cause more problems than they solve.

[@hdv333]

is there any scientific causative evidence for your statement on fat and percerntage of it? I will help as there is not and you are just repeating globalist narrative without really understanding what you are talking about. Please do some research before proceeding with giving people advice how to eat.

[@natpaolone3897]

So don’t eat too much meat. Non issue

[@alancameron6937]

TOO much of ANYTHING is bad

[@Subtlenimbus]

Everything in your comment is incorrect. You are the victim of the weaponization of science in pursuit of profit. It is entirely possible that everything you believe about proper human diet is wrong. I recommend a strict ruminant meat diet - at least 20% fatty composition, and no plants until symptoms abate (you find yourself not typing ridiculous nonsense). Repeat as necessary.

[@lalitoberoi9152]

Look at our canine. Do they belong to a ferocious carnivore sneaking up on prey. We have become civilized now.

[@alancameron6937]

But our digestive system isn't, We are omnivores just like our relative the chimpanzee

[@natpaolone3897]

There is no science to support your claim of canine teeth and we should be vegan 😂

[@Subtlenimbus]

Humans have cutting teeth, including the molars. You should have some - feel them for yourself. Sharp sides with a valley between. Plant-eaters have flat teeth like mill stones. Humans don’t have big canines because they aren’t adapted to KILL other animals with their teeth. That is why canines and felines have them.

[@santim2341]

I did eat carnivore for a short while, and got fat and my health suffered, like increased BP. I've been wfpb vegan for a month and 1/2, and lost 15 lbs of fat, everything improving. Calling B.S.here 🦬💩

[@natpaolone3897]

Soooo funny! No one in this podcast is saying to eat carnivore 😢…. Sooo hilarious

[@alancameron6937]

You've probably just decreased calorie intake...hence fat loss

[@natpaolone3897]

Again this episode has nothing to do with carnivore diet. So unbelievably why anyone would discuss carnivore diet after listening to this episode

[@Subtlenimbus]

Fat loss? How do you know? I bet you are gaining visceral fat, and losing lean body mass.

[@hugoanderkivi]

What did you eat on carnivore? You haven't provided enough to convince us with anything other than you probably did it wrong. You should lay out your case in detail.