The ACTUAL Cause of Type 2 Diabetes. Carbs?

[@TheToberman1]

I’ve been trying to research and figure this all out for years - have all the books to prove it. Talk about confusion. You truth seekers need a medal. God bless you.

[@BurtDavis]

I went vegan almost three years ago. Lost about 35lbs, and so many things got better over the next couple of years. This year, just after my 60th birthday, my A1c tested at 7.7 (on 7Apr2022). Most of my life, the tests had been in the pre-diabetic range so this was new. I immediately modified my diet to stop eating the processed vegan food and removed ALL added oil. Additionally reducing some of the nuts and avocados that I would eat voraciously. The doctor wanted to test me again on 20April2022 just to make sure the test was not a fluke. In that short time my A1c dropped to 7.4 . I maintained the new healthier diet, and on 6June2022 tested my A1c at 6.7 . My next test was on 26July2022 and it was 6.6 Having already given up meat and dairy (loaded with saturated fat), the change to make my diet healthier was easier by avoiding the vegan processed foods (Which was hard, because they taste pretty good. I hadn’t realized how much of those foods are loaded with oil. I’ve additionally started walking at least 10k steps a day and am learning about intermittent fasting to help. I’m really excited to see how low I can get that A1c down. I highly recommend the Mastering Diabetes book to anyone that wants to know more.

[@PlantChompers]

Congrats on your success, BJ. 👏💪 I did an interview with the Mastering Diabetes guys. Love them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5DRiX6mmr-NfNU

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

Good for you! Success! We've read the packages and that stuff isn't necessarily healthy! I think it's a great 'gate way' food to bring over carnivores, though.

[@larryputra3692]

@@natalietannerblogger-theed9419 what type of food do you eat? and how much?

[@happyapple4269]

They are wrong about saturated fat. We need it.. Eat as much as you can and enjoy it.

[@BurtDavis]

@@happyapple4269 Who is wrong about saturated fat? Do you have diabetes, and eat as much saturated fat as you want?

[@Davidsmorrill]

I'd just like to say thank you. As a graduate student that loves learning I find your videos more engaging than the majority of lectures in the academy, and I feel I am learning a lot.

[@MrMZaccone]

My father was a diagnosed, insulin-dependent, type 2 diabetic. After reducing carbohydrates, selecting carbs lower on the glycemic index and engaging in periodic fasting he was removed from insulin and ALL DIABETES MEDICATIONS. He was told by his physician that he was no longer a diabetic. Both his natural insulin levels and glycosylated hemoglobin levels were in the low normal range.

[@thornados4969]

so keto works.

[@jazzbaia]

@@thornados4969 It does work. It also won't work if the person doing it didn't study it well. For example, I've read people advocating a low-carb diet and telling other people canned tuna is fine - the version of canned tuna soaked in processed oils. So, one of the most common questions to ask some folks is how exactly they did keto.

[@thornados4969]

@@jazzbaia So avoid processed products as possible. How about lard from thick layer of pork fat.

[@jazzbaia]

@@thornados4969 Good question. Since pigs and chickens are monogastric, they are higher in Linoleic acid, especially if they are grain-fed. They just take on all that corn and soy. Lard is also used by researchers who want to show that a high-fat diet is not good. When reading research studies, the diet is mainly referred to as high-fat and is found in either the references or the references of the references. I found that frustrating. Cows are different having 4 digestive chambers. Although they will show an increase in Linoleic acid, it is not that high. Beef from the supermarket just becomes a better choice when one can't get grass-fed beef. Overall, ruminants are very good choices. The only problem is if they're cooked using processed Seed oils. On avoiding processed products, let's just refer to the worse ones as ultra-processed food - just avoid.

[@thornados4969]

@@jazzbaia Lard is the best source of high fat for keto dieters because it has low in omega-6 which is considered to cause inflammation and it also contains omega-3 specially for plant feed pigs which balances the omega-6. The lard is high in monosaturated fat and low in saturated fatty acids And it has high smoke point so cooking in high heat with minimal oxidation.

[@carl13579]

My own experience: I've been on the Esselstyn diet - it will be 5 years this Thanksgiving - after having a heart attack. My numbers are great, I've lost weight, etc. But, along with consistent exercise, I keep feeling even better (i.e., younger) each year. That pancreas series at the end shows me how this might be possible.

[@PlantChompers]

Wow, Carl. I honestly believe Dr. Esselstyn is the king of caring for the acutely ill via diet. I should interview him.

[@AstonAcademia]

@@PlantChompers I think you're one of the best KZbin channels that is scientifically consistent , open minded and shows impeccability and frankness without being extreme and just being open-minded to learning from all sides. Would be good to see you interview more like minded dr's like Will Bulsiewicz, Matthew Nagra, Christopher Gardner and Dr Justin Sonnenburg.

[@mariaespiritu9512]

I placed my mom on a Esselstyn’s diet after a major stroke in October 21 that left her paralyzed on her right side and unable to speak. She had low blood flow to the legs and developed 3 pressure sores on her affected foot, after 6 weeks at a rehab facility . Supposedly they would never heal, due to low blood to the leg, but 2 months ago she was discharged from wound care. She’s been on Esselstyn’s diet since she was discharged to home in December ‘21. She’s also regained movement in her right side. She’s speaking more and her cholesterol dropped from 330 to 182 without statins, and her LDL keeps going down. The doctors think she’s a miracle. I think it’s the diet and some divine intervention.

[@mariaespiritu9512]

Also, I stopped taking care of me while taking care of my mom. I was working from home and living on greasy food and wine. I’m 44 yrs old and 5’8” and in 8 months i went from 167 lbs to 209 lbs. 6 weeks ago I adopted a similar diet to my mom’s following Dr. mcdouggal and esselstyn guidelines. My weight is 188 lbs, my blood pressure dropped from 155/80 (always within this rang) to 101/61 and my resting heart rate dropped from 80 beats per minute to 61 beats per minute. I had developed plants fasciitis which is now gone and I’ve always had severe pain during my monthly visitor and that’s gone. I walked 30 minutes a day, for exercise. This coming Tuesday I’ll be back in the gym, lifting and cardio, like in my younger days. I have so much energy that I tired out my 2 year old and 5 year old niece yesterday, lol. Love this lifestyle.

[@fanniterrette]

@@mariaespiritu9512 Most excellent. Very happy for you 🙂

[@timclancy871]

I'm not a vego myself but I respect your reliance on soundly analyzed data from well conducted research. More health to you!

[@universalsoldier2293]

I consistently come back to this channel and watch these videos, like food for the brain. As much as I appreciate the vegan MDs tackling this stuff, your videos are concise, interesting, and accessible to anyone. Thanks for putting out such great information we can all appreciate!

[@UncleDiddles]

I was diagnosed type 2 last november. A1C was 11.4... Major health problems. I immediately began very severe strict keto, basicly no carbs whatsoever and continuous exercise. Ive been doing it since I was dignosed, almost a year. My A1C is now 5.1, I've lost over 90lbs. I am diabetes free. Its about discipline and effort, not pills and diets. It is a lifestyle change. Its weightloss, and carb restriction and exercise to prevent weight gain.

[@johnnygovroom]

For all of my clients I lean into this ethos. It works :) Congrats!!! Youre killing it!!!

[@LavenderSkyla]

I had the same experience. Pre diabetic n pcos. Two years later after keto I'm 100lbs down and am in good levels. No more medications

[@UncleDiddles]

@@LavenderSkyla hell yeah, well done, stay strong!

[@UncleDiddles]

@@johnnygovroom thank you sir!

[@DR-br5gb]

congrats bro

[@jamescoyle007]

I'm a thin guy (now 130lb,5'8") and have had high cholesterol (300+), slightly high triglycerides (180ish) and slightly elevated ALT. I've been vegan for 15+ years but was always a volume eater, eating till I was stuffed and heavy on the pasta / grains (high calorie density). It took me a long time to get that under control so I wasn't overeating calories (started using cronometer which was an eye opener). I now eat a lot more vegetables, a lot less pasta, and keep the oil light. I've dropped from ~140 to my now 130lb and the blood markers are all in a better range now. Thanks for your videos.. it's confusing information to try to sort out but you make it pretty clear. Side note - just got back from Scotland which was amazing, but I found it hard to find vegetables... they love "chips" (aka fries) with everything!

[@PlantChompers]

Wow, James, thanks for posting that. You sound like a fellow congenitally high cholesterol guy like me. 😞 Congrats on getting it under control. I would definitely love to eat more than I do now. Argh.

[@buckeyeborn65]

Technically fries are a vegetable - watch out Scotland...here I come :)

[@spiral-m]

Did you visit Edinburgh or Glasgow? they have lots of healthy options if you look around... But the average diet and healthiness level is still abysmal

[@jamescoyle007]

@@spiral-m Yes! I was in Edinburgh for two nights and found a good vegan restaurant there (don't recall the name). The hard part was Isle of Sky but the beautiful landscape made up for it!

[@johnsmith-eq1zc]

Picked my curiosity, so just googled "life span in Scotland" and first search states...."On average, they spend a third of their lives in poor health - 24 more years than those in the least deprived areas. Across Scotland, healthy life expectancy was 60.9 years for males and 61.8 years for females. These figures have dropped each year from 2018 to 2022 for females and for the past three years for males.Feb 3, 2022"

[@beatpirate8]

I’m a nurse who works w surgeons who do gallbladder , hernia, and bariatric surgeries. I was in disbelief that a bariatric surgery can prevent diabetes. I asked both doctors what diet they recommend and they said to cut rice and bread. And eat less. Brown rice is rice! Don’t eat it every meal. Maybe cut it out or only once in a while eat it. I have had pain in my pancreas area after eating large quantities of food w cheese coconut cream or meat. I cut my intake and increased salad or vegetable intake before eating other things. Also eating two meals only . One is miso soup w vegetables. It’s helping a lot . I no longer have pain and I don’t have diabetes risk

[@danpan001]

Like alergic to peanut you should not totally avoid but decrease your sensitivity. You should reduce but not avoid fat because it helps your body to produce bile.

[@TenTempeh]

You're on another level my man. It made me allign so many thoughts on this topic. I feel way more confident right now on this topic. Thank you so much Chris. Not only for being a great plant-based nutrition advocate, but for all the humanity you irradiate.

[@Recep007]

Yes, I like to think, you are speaking for a lot of us.

[@samgreeneggs8101]

I hope he isn’t irradiating humans though 🤭

[@TenTempeh]

@@samgreeneggs8101 lmaoo

[@fullyplantedlife3038]

You are absolutely spot on right. Chris is an exceptional human being. Thank goodness we have him. This channel needs to be seen by the millions. If only!

[@kennethbooe3858]

07

[@njpaddler]

Thanks, Chris, for another honest look at all of this. I watched while eating lunch. At 67 my Dr. hates me because I never bring any complaints or problems in with me. I had the pre-diabetic symptoms badly in the '80's/'90's & Mom + her two brothers were insulin-dependent, so I didn't need much convincing to change things. I've never regretted my quitting meat & dairy in '93. I've been an asymptomatic healthy pesco-veg ever since, weight at 180~185 lbs. for decades, rarely ill with anything at all., not a flu or cold in years. Enjoy Scandanavia, it's a joy to see if only a glimpse.

[@Paul-Weston]

Strangely enough, I was pre-diabetic and I fixed it by adopting a fully carnivore diet. Bacon and eggs for breakfast, single cream in my coffee, and a 500g ribeye steak for dinner. No vegetables whatsoever, as far as I'm concerned my food eats vegetables.

[@loyal7597]

Yea it's because you stopped eating trash. You ain't going to be in a carnivore diet for long.

[@kenpca]

@@Paul-WestonGlad you are doing well! hows your A1C?

[@REDGRIFFIN100]

@@Paul-Weston how long have you been on that diet?

[@myrhev]

Aren’t fish made of meat?

[@zelbinian]

This. This is the episode that made me realize I'd been listening to the wrong people for YEARS. I don't blame myself. As you say many times, nutrition is a tricky subject and most of those who do the best work in it do not have enough time, ability, or inclination to communicate their findings effectively to the public. That's why folks like me rely on people to translate nutrition science into easily-consumable stories (yum yum). It can be *so* hard to figure out who to listen to. And when so many of the doctors I've had over the years seem to also be poor communicators (and sometimes even poor listeners), it's really easy to jump on the Medical Science is Wrong bandwagon. Medical science isn't perfect, and neither are doctors, but it is the profession that contains the people that know what they're talking about. Thank you for providing access to their wisdom.

[@johnthompson16]

Great video. Having been a diabetic from 2011 to 2018 my eureka moment came when Dr fung explained the importance of intermittent fasting. He said, imagine your stomach as a bowl. Every time you eat you fill it up with sugar. If you keep eating the bowl will overflow. I was already a veggie, but I did not reverse my diabetes until I started 8/16. Suddenly it all fell into place. I have been a non diabetic since 2018. A side effect of stopping meat was that the arthritis in my hands disappeared.

[@terry2346]

Interesting! I stopped my arthritic symptoms and also brought my Type 2 diabetes under control by going Keto and

[@jmc8076]

Excellent! ✌️

[@NutritionMadeSimple]

very interesting. we need an all-inclusive model of IR/diabetes accounting for excess energetic intake + the effects of fat quality we see in intrahepatic triglyceride measurements

[@ash9259]

i'd be interested in this, it seems to me that how far-gone a patient is plays a significant role in what foods someone should be eating in an attempt to reverse t2 diabetes.

[@VeganV5912]

@@ash9259 ​ ... Actual photos clogging up the arteries eating animals. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonMmKB9j9BofLc .. They are Herbivores, ✅❤️😬|-_|💪🦍< are not “Omnivores” !!!!! They never have plaque !!!!! Only humans have plaque eating animals and their secretions. Heart attack is fat deposits clog in the arteries 🧟‍♂️🦠💩🍖🥓🥩🍣🍳🍗🧀🍦🥛... 🔴.... . We’ve got long long stomachs. Flat teeth 🦷. Little flat teeth 😬. We are herbivores. We act like ‘Omnivores’, get cancer and heart attack and high blood pressure and diabetes and fat deposits clog in the arteries and Alzheimer’s, is eating animals and their secretions, fat deposits !!!!! You can see the fat you eat !!!!! Meat eaters, and 🍗 and 🍖🥓 and fish and cheese et cetera, have 51% death rate, no fibre !!!! Stays in your body and rots !!!! Deodorant mask the symptoms but you still smell 🤮, your feet and shoes and socks and armpits 🤮. Vegans have 4% cancer and that’s it !!!! Lots of fibre if you eat plants and fruit and nuts and berries and tubers and lentils and beans and potatoes et cetera !!!! Peer review science !!!!

[@carbrock.2854]

Maybe we could just accept the simple truth that whole plants (and 'shrooms) are the only health-promoting stuff we can eat, and stop trying to justify eating anything else.

[@Andrew-ug2cy]

@@carbrock.2854 Shrooms are whole plants?

[@carbrock.2854]

@@Andrew-ug2cy Are you asking me or telling me?

[@rodcamp4472]

I have a PhD and am a deep analytical thinker. It is late night simple carbs often... like pizza at 11 pm or 1 am... plus eating too much seed oils. Those are the people who 'get' T2D. Eating a lot of bread or rice/deep fried batter (pizza or Chinese delivery) covers 90% of T2 diabetes! Ask anyone who 'has it'. The extra carbs in the blood turns into fat in the liver & pancreas

[@spiritofadmetos9992]

But is is carb creep or vegetable seed oil/bleached flour creep?

[@harbingerbk1]

Another great episode Chris!! Thank you for consolidating all of this information into an entertaining and digestible format for us 🙌 Also I loved the changing backgrounds and vacation snippets, I hope you all enjoyed the trip 😁

[@cian4468]

Just eat less? Okay, but so far, my experience informs me that the only way I've found so far to do that is to keep carbs low, eat only healthy fats and moderate protein - keto - all whole foods, unprocessed. I'm at a healthy weight and able to maintain it, with walking and 4 fitness classes per week - including strength training (no, these aren't senior classes). A big focus of retired life for me is living a healthy lifestyle. I had way too many high-carb processed foods, sugary desserts in my younger years and I'm still recovering from that. So there's not one size fits all.

[@Bob-nu2qo]

I have several blood work results from before and after going vegan. My sugar was slightly too high, now it's below the threshold for concern. My blood fats were too high, now they are below the threshold and the cholesterol is a much better mix with a lot of HDL. And being aware of my diet has made me check certain things.. and I found possibly life-saving knowledge about congenital alterations. Not being able to metabolize normal folate is one of them, with homocysteine being exceeded and already causing several thrombosis events in my 30s that were not life threatening, but still weird at that age. The combination of going vegan, getting knowledgable about diet (thanks to your channel too) and nutrients and staying off processed foods has made a big positive impact on my life. I can only recommend it. Plus, we are saving the planet and a lot of animal lives.

[@BloodGangBrazy]

Well sir, if you were truly knowledgeable about diet then you would probably not be vegan.

[@GlennMarshallnz]

@@BloodGangBrazy Go on a vegan website and waste time posting multiple antivegan comments. Or maybe get a life. Your choice.

[@Bob-nu2qo]

@@BloodGangBrazy I've got so extensive knowledge now, about micronutrients, amino acid spectrums, composition of vegetable and animal fats, etc., that I can say that a vegan diet is much better. Please, if you really want to tell me that real men eat a lot of meat because we did that in primordial times: Have you ever eaten venison? Or wild fish? That meat has basically 0% fat, so the saturated fats won't destroy your body. But people who eat an 'all meat' diet or keto diet consume the flesh of farmed animals that are not allowed to move and build up lots and lots of saturated fats. Our diet 10,000 years ago cannot be remotely compared to consuming a lot of farmed animals.

[@BloodGangBrazy]

@@GlennMarshallnz Well as a former victim of this anti-scientific nonsense I feel compelled to dispel the lies and myths every time it pops up in my feed.

[@BloodGangBrazy]

@@Bob-nu2qo A vegan diet is much better than what and for who exactly? And who said anything about eating factory-farmed animals or that "real men eat meat"? There is no evidence that saturated fat causes any negative health effects whatsoever. How exactly do you propose saturated fats will "destroy your body? Through what mechanism?

[@jimgillert20]

Please keep making these deep digging well thought out videos.

[@marcdenlinger5282]

Thanks for another great video Chris! I love the variety of backgrounds and weather you film yourself in. Thanks for doing the research, and sharing it with us! Also, thank you for revisiting previous topics and being willing to continue seeking the truth.

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Marc! When I started this episode, I really thought Roy might have overturned some of the things I've said in the past... I have a fear of getting things wrong and needing to fix them.

[@marcdenlinger5282]

@@PlantChompers Well, I appreciate it Chris! I've been on a journey myself that took an exponential turn in 2015 to start getting serious about my nutritional health. I did a ton of research for about 18+ months and my conclusions kept coming to whole foods, plant based. But I like to think I've kept an open mind through all of it. That's why I appreciate your research and references in your videos. And when I see a new "Plant Chompers" video hit my notifications, I get excited to see what you've been up to since the last video.

[@VeganV5912]

@@marcdenlinger5282 ​ Gorilla Genus of large African apes For other uses, see Gorilla (disambiguation). “Blackback” and “Silverback” redirect here. For other uses, see Blackback (disambiguation) and Silverback (disambiguation). Not to be confused with Guerrilla. Gorillas are herbivorous, predominantly ground-dwelling great apes that inhabit the tropical forests of equatorial Africa. The genus Gorilla is divided into two species: the eastern gorilla and the western gorilla, and either four or five subspecies. The DNA of gorillas is highly similar to that of humans, from 95 to 99% depending on what is included, and they are the next closest living relatives to humans after chimpanzees and bonobos. W. ikipedia

[@VeganV5912]

@@marcdenlinger5282 ​ ... Actual photos clogging up the arteries eating animals. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonMmKB9j9BofLc .. They are Herbivores, ✅❤️😬|-_|💪🦍< are not “Omnivores” !!!!! They never have plaque !!!!! Only humans have plaque eating animals and their secretions. Heart attack is fat deposits clog in the arteries 🧟‍♂️🦠💩🍖🥓🥩🍣🍳🍗🧀🍦🥛... 🔴.... . We’ve got long long stomachs. Flat teeth 🦷. Little flat teeth 😬. We are herbivores. We act like ‘Omnivores’, get cancer and heart attack and high blood pressure and diabetes and fat deposits clog in the arteries and Alzheimer’s, is eating animals and their secretions, fat deposits !!!!! You can see the fat you eat !!!!! Meat eaters, and 🍗 and 🍖🥓 and fish and cheese et cetera, have 51% death rate, no fibre !!!! Stays in your body and rots !!!! Deodorant mask the symptoms but you still smell 🤮, your feet and shoes and socks and armpits 🤮. Vegans have 4% cancer and that’s it !!!! Lots of fibre if you eat plants and fruit and nuts and berries and tubers and lentils and beans and potatoes et cetera !!!! Peer review science !!!!

[@BloodGangBrazy]

@@marcdenlinger5282 Well sir, you should keep researching because you are absolutely on the wrong path.

[@Nicksonian]

Chris and Dr. Gil Carvalho are my most trusted nutrition experts on KZbin…hands down! They certainly have their own preferences, but they don’t allow them to influence their presentations.

[@chuckleezodiac24]

lmao.

[@Robnord1]

I have 5 years of keto alternated with carnivore and intermittent fasting with either, per Dr. Jason Fung's teachings. It's working very well for me. Lost a considerable amount of fat and I control numbers appearing on the scale. Stopped taking 5 meds for various ills. I'm a believer in ultra low sugar, high fat, moderate protein, low carb lifestyle.

[@sandray7609]

What about cholesterol triglycerides? Kidney disease, cancer and heart disease risk?

[@Robnord1]

@@sandray7609 90% of the time I'm on keto/OMAD/IF, and it helps me feel better and take no meds except vitamins. Weight control is easy. Being able to skip the occasional meal without feeling hungry is a real freedom. Friends and acquaintances my age(68) are dropping like flies, and doing regular trips to the doctor. I'm happy, and feel rather safe with keto Living.

[@sandray7609]

@@Robnord1 You do you, but the science doesn't back it up long term. I'd rather eat when I am hungry, a few times a day, with abundant food. I lots the last 10 lbs, healthy weight, great numbers with bad genes based on my siblings and parents.

[@Moralatheist101]

@@sandray7609 The science is still out for low carb if you want to ignore those that have been doing this for 40 + years. You are misleading the truth if you actually believe that science doesn't back up low/no carb long term. The truth is they've been researching the Inuit populations and their TOTAL dependence on ONLY animal products for more than half a century. Don't let your cognitive bias steer you wrong. The facts are out there if you want to find them. Our ancestors didn't have "abundant food" to choose from. They lived a very restrictive diet made up of animal products from the entire animal. If you want to take indigenous people's foods out of their mouths because some advertising exec told you that you get the most niacin from Quinoa, fine. That's your choice. You do you, Boo. And as far as your questions: "cholesterol triglycerides? Kidney disease, cancer, and heart disease risk?" - Please. We don't live in the 1950s anymore with their propaganda to increase sales of wheat, corn, and sugar products. It has been shown that there is no correlation between animal products and heart disease. In fact, the facts show an increase in diabetes and heart problems at the same time meat and butter consumption decreased and wheat and sugar consumption increased. And, if you can't make the connection on your own: Glucose is VERY high in plant products whether those products are straight sugar or hidden sugar in the case of grains and corn and even "healthy" plant foods.

[@penultimatename6677]

@@sandray7609 triglycerides is from fructose. That's why it raises when you eat fruit.

[@klang180]

Brilliant video. I'm extremely impressed you managed to script and film this whilst on holiday. I hope you still had time to enjoy yourself in Europe!

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks! It's funny, I kinda scripted it as I went, it was a journey of discovery. And each time I had a little more, I'd drop back from a family for a few minutes and press record. 😁

[@klang180]

@@PlantChompers wow even more impressive in that case as it seems so coherent and structured!

[@D.von.N]

I have been focusing on metabolic syndrome in my nutrition studies, did a dissertation on that topic, reading and watching documentaries from far and wide, following data, etc. My conclusion is the major cause of type 2 diabetes is a constant positive energy balance, whatever the calories come from. We eat too much and exercise too little. We know hunger no more. We eat too much of processed diet deprived of nutrients and fibre that would slow down glucose release into the blood stream. All these contribute to the inflammation in our body that causes oxidative stress, but the major issue is constantly eating more than we burn and not exercising enough. Some so called health professionals you presented confuse the treatment of diabetes with prevention of diabetes. It is obvious. I am saying this just after watching 6 minutes of this video but I have an impression you are going to come to a similar conclusion at the end. Most of my family perished to diabetes type 2, I am an odd one. But I do exercise, I don't deep fry, I don't bake cakes and I prefer eating fruits fresh and whole, not peeling apples into a pie like I have seen another video just today. Why ruining a perfect health package from nature and hurt our metabolism with pies? If carbs were the issue, how about Asians thriving on rice and other carb rich diets for generations, until the modern times with fat loaded fast food?

[@teresawhite791]

I have been researching a lot for my prediebetes and I agree with u on this 100%.

[@futureofmoney3527]

Fully agree. I live in Thailand and I think the best diet is a local diet. Thais are used to manual labor up til 40 or so years ago and are now becoming overweight (I generalize of course). We have to move our bodies. The Thai diet is carbs, fried food, salty soups….all of these give you energy when you work in hot weather and you won’t put on a pound if you’re active. Ultimately, exercise can fix so much - it balances so much out. Inactivity is the outlier in human history.

[@RC-qf3mp]

Hate to burst your bubble, but fruit is just sugar and water and a tiny amount of actual nutrients that you can get from other food.

[@D.von.N]

@@RC-qf3mp so what? Small amount of sugar is not bad for us. We have evolved on eating anything and everything, including naturally occurring sugars. I think you live in a bubble of antisugar bandwagon.

[@RC-qf3mp]

@@D.von.N i just stated facts. Fruit is just sugar, water, and some nutrients you can get elsewhere. And most fruits come with a side-item of pesticides. Sure, small amount of sugar is fine, and a small amount of cocaine, and small out of heroine. Knock yourself out.

[@JW4REnvironment]

Bravo! As a former high school science teacher, I could not agree more with Chris that the mainstream media tends to overlook the work of most scientists who make key discoveries but do not typically have the time to communicate with the general public. Way back in the 1980s, I tried to teach students that fat is fattening--its the butter and sour cream on the baked potato that carry the fattening contents, more than the actual potato for many heavy butter/sour cream users and that beans were shown to be truly good for our diets. It is the rare scientist like Dr. Neal Barnard who both has research done at Physician's Committee and is also a truly effective communicator to the general public. Another example is climate change, where the mainstream media so often does not interview actual climate researchers like Michael Mann, Ph.D. at Penn. Hearty thanks to Chris for bringing Dr. Taylor's insights, which make lots of sense and to me, agree with Dr. Barnard's insights that we need to keep fat out of our cells to reverse Type 2 diabetes. And many thanks for showing us Plant Chomper viewers what the hard-working dedicated research scientists have found out. (Now, how do we get the Department of Agriculture to pay attention to the real science and recommend heavy veggie, fruit, and whole grain consumption over beef and pork consumption? How do we convince Congress it will benefit millions to restrict SNAP purchases to healthful foods?)

[@weston.weston]

Chris, I enjoyed this segment so much that I have watched it three times. The topic was so good, I wanted to make sure I absorbed it all, especially your graphs. And, I am so glad you mentioned the Esselsytn, Campbell PCRM, & Mastering Diabetes camp vs Simon Hill and Gil Carvalho camp position on the consumption of oils. Per usual, this was such a great segment!

[@PlantChompers]

Thank you so much, Weston. I always fret about whether I'm being preachy or boring...

[@GlennMarshallnz]

@@PlantChompers Hi Chris, you would come across preachy, for those with poor health who want to live in denial.

[@JohnMoseley]

​@@PlantChompers Never!

[@leonardwl]

I am low carb but very much appreciate that you take a balanced unbiased approach to where the research leads us. I believe the best diet is the healthiest diet that one can sustain. The Mayo Clinic Diet now has several options including Keto, Mediterranean and Vegan. Whatever someone can stick with that works!

[@sandray7609]

But didn't the result show this diet doesn't work after 1 year? The high protein and fat lead to heart disease, kidney disease and cancer. Not worth it if it's diabetes benefits evaporate after a year. Whole food plants are the way to go!

[@equsnarnd]

" Whatever someone can stick with that works!" That seems patently obvious but is the key. If an eating regime has you hating food or going off it for relief then throw it in the trash can. Another conundrum often cited is 'Excess fat is merely a matter of excess calorie intake.' Duh! That has the same explanatory power as 'Death is caused by Life.'

[@mbrochh82]

this guy is far far far from unbiased. he's a vegan propagandist.

[@Punkyrooster6]

Alright, dang it. I was vegan for two years and got to the lowest weight of my adult life. I fell off the wagon gained a lot back. Now on a low carb round, but this video kind of motivated me to get back on the plants.

[@stephenwade511]

Greetings from Bangkok. Your videos are fascinating. Four months ago I had a CT scan that revealed a high calcium score. After much research, I went on a low-carb, high-fat Keto diet. After watching several of your excellent, well-researched videos, I'm now questioning my dietary approach. However, I'm getting bamboozled by all of the research advocating low-carb, high fat and the plant-based- lower fat approaches. Each camp seems to be able to present equally compelling evidence in favour of their diet over the other. I really don't know what to do for the best. I think I'll just go to the pub!

[@lisamichele4152]

The vegan agenda is being pushed hard. Historically humans have eaten meat and in many parts of the world - mostly meat. Staying away from sugar and seed oils, which are basically in all process food is the most important thing.

[@yeetghostrat]

My approach has been whatever makes me feel best and is compatible with my health. My symptoms are closer to type one, and hold hands with candida (yeast) infections. Pretty sure the root cause is autoimmune and high estrogen from endometriosis, combined with being on daily antibiotics for a good chunk of my childhood. So my best diet, after much experimentation, is a near sugar free cream based. Heavy cream and butter are my life blood, glutinous rice is a great staple, I've never felt sick after eating high quality glutinous rice and my blood sugar never spikes or drops from it. I do have trouble with all other rice. Ketones damage my liver and feed candida- so carb free is very counter productive. I also have IBS and intestinal damage, so fiber/vegetables are incredibly difficult - though I've been able to digest some that I was never able to, since I took a round of anti-fungals, taken preventative measures to stave off the yeast coming back, and started chugging heavy cream. No milk though, regular milk is where all the nasty parts of cow juice concentrates. Cream does not cause estrogen spikes and contains no lactose/sugar. Basically, listen to your body and figure out what types of food contribute. Everyone's body is different. And if you have any underlying conditions, most diets really are only temporarily effective. A keto diet, if you don't have conflicting health problems, is probably the best kick start, but it is not sustainable or long term effective. So I would recommend starting there and pivoting to something more sustainable. Also pump yourself full of high quality pro-biotics. Either from supplements or foods like kifer and kimchi. Also, all recent research has proven that non-trans fat intake does not affect your body composition, and you require a good amount of fat to absorb nutrients. Avoid food that otherwise cause estrogen spikes, like soybean oil and skim milk, but fat itself is not the root.

[@RandomHuTaoSimp]

I've tried both approaches. But over years of eating and research, what helped me completely reverse my type 2 was low carb, HIGH protein and somewhat high fat diet way of eating. I've been living and eating this way now for over a decade, im 32 years old and my health is amazing compared to before eating plants and low fat. Watch some of paul salidinos videos. CarnivoreMD on youtube. :)

[@RandomHuTaoSimp]

I haven't really eaten greens or veges in over 10 years. Mostly grass fed, grass finished meats, beef organs, raw milk and fruits occasionally. Need I remind, I've been eating this way for more then 10 years. Longer then a lot of people on youtube who advocate my way of eating. But simply because I tend to live mostly in nature far, far away from major cities.

[@robertleugemors338]

Stay low carb for just a few months and then retest CT scan. I am guessing it will be lower. If it is stay the course. If not then maybe another option is better for you. Full disclosure I am lower carb biased but it is not for everyone

[@JaxObsessed]

Thanks for the disambiguation, Chris!!!! I've been carrying an embarrassing amount of extra weight but was lucky enough to have a high tolerance for said weight. My bloodwork was closing in on diabetes and I changed my diet. I eat mostly whole foods with no red meat and have had wonderful bloodwork for 15 years... Now at 63 my bloodwork is beginning to show signs of deteriorating health, though I'm still not even "pre" diabetic. It has become painfully clear that I need to restrict calories as I age. This has always been my kriptonite... I love big, high calorie meals, and have gotten away with them because of their relative 'cleanness'. Switching to 2 or one a day and intermittent fasting (18/6) has helped some but my weight remains way too high for my age. This segment has steeled my resolve and am going to cut calories. Again, you are a gem in my life that I can't get enough of!!!!! Thanks so much. Jack

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Jax! Unfortunately, I don’t get to eat as much as I want either… Sigh.

[@k8eekatt]

You may also benefit from increased variety of plant fiber to feed your GI microbes.

[@koobah]

I love your videos. The way you record one episode in 1000 different locations is such a great, almost CGI-like bonus, too.

[@niamhwarren7324]

So rare to see someone pay such attention to nuance around nutrition. Thanks for you brilliant videos!

[@zoey4846]

The paper about HK was exactly what I had shared to you months ago. The elderly kept their traditional veggie high diet, while the younger generation immersed themselves in fast food and meat! From my observation, Keto/ low carbs diet are being practiced by my fds.

[@GoneCarnivore]

A balanced diet could be the key. We are straying from the original diet that was advocated years ago and it worked. Now we are eating garbage labeled as food.

[@johnmeyers8542]

I was all about that keto, but you and Gil have changed my mind. I have to say it wasn't easy to accept this new information, but the good presentation and reliance on science (as well as the way you discuss papers and evidence and what to look at and why) changed my mind. You may not have as many viewers as I think you should have, but you've made a positive change for at least one person.

[@Hertz2laugh]

My experience is the opposite - I feel like sh■t as soon as I start reintroducing vegetables into my diet. Indigestion, bloating, gas, etc. And, within days, I experience full relief when I drop carbs. Meat, eggs, and a tiny bit of dairy seem to be what makes me feel the best. No gas, no bloat, bags under my eys go away, consistent appetite, etc. It's not difficult to get a study to produce results you want. That's why I take all studies with a grain of salt. I eat what works for me.

[@garyloewenthal]

@@Hertz2laugh Just a thought; won’t be offended if you ignore! If there’s insufficient bacteria in the gut to digest the fiber, you may feel awful. The key seems to be to introduce it slowly. Gradually the microbiome bacteria increase, expanding your capacity to handle the fiber, and you can increase accordingly. Then you have a well-functioning system that can reap the benefits of the polyphenols, anthocyanins, and other micronutrients in the plant foods. Just a thought.

[@Hertz2laugh]

@@garyloewenthal The problem with this idea is that I was eating vegetables consistently for _decades_ and had bloating, gas, etc. You know? How long is it supposed to take for the proper microbiology to develop?.. Same with my wife. She grew up in a mostly vegetarian family. They ate fish and meat _occasionally_ but it was basically all vegetables and fruits. Almost no processed foods and very little bread. She experienced the same thing I did when she dropped all the carbs - almost immediate (within three days) reduction in bloat, water weight, gas, etc. It makes more sense to me that humans simply aren't as good at processing plants as we are vegetables. For example, my 10 month old son gets gassy and the quality of his poop decreases whenever we try to give him vegetables.It happened from the first time we tried and every time after that. But it didn't happen when we fed him meat. Not even *_the very first time._* My sister-in-law fed him spinach. Boom, rash. My wife fed him tomatoes. Boom, rash. I feed him meat. No rash. I feed him eggs. No rash. He didn't seem to need any special adapting period to handle meat. He hasn't had any adverse reactions to eating different kinds of meat. It's a night-and-day experience compared to vegetables. My point here is that it seems to me that while humans *_might_* be able to adapt to eating vegetables over time and with specific techniques, humans seem to automatically be able to process meat without any issues (assuming they are developed enough to swallow safely). Seems like we're better suited to processing the things that are great at processing plants than processing plants directly.

[@garyloewenthal]

@@Hertz2laugh It is interesting how different people respond to foods. I was just going with average observations from people who study the microbiome, and of studies of associations between fiber intake and health outcomes (in general: decreased mortality, decreased inflammation, possible protection against certain diseases). But none of these studies indicate uniform responses. For sure, there is variation from person to person. For instance, some substances that have a calming effect on most people have a stimulative effect on me. That said, there do seem to be some characteristics of humans that suggest we're made to eat plants: our high levels of amylase for digesting starch, our inability to produce our own vitamin c, high levels of calcium in pre-dairy ancestors, high requirement for potassium, etc. And studies showing a relationship between fruit/vegetable/whole grain/legume intake and positive health outcomes predominate. I'm going a little out on a limb, but another human characteristic is: if we see an injured bird, we tend not to salivate, but to feel empathy for him or her. And I find that most people, if served meat from an animal they're not used to eating, are fairly repulsed, in a way that I don't see if, for example, if they're fed a fruit they've never eaten. Most people are very disturbed by slaughterhouse footage. But it may be that certain traits result in some people diverging from the midpoints. Perhaps there are still a lot of causes for this variability that are yet to be discovered.

[@Hertz2laugh]

@Tobias Guldberg Some cooked. Some raw.

[@ervinjackson3261]

I gave Roy a 10 that man know what he talking about scientifically

[@GA-lf2uh]

The link is that most fat in the liver is synthesised from carbs especially fructose. The fastest way to lose liver fat is a high protein diet with little or no fructose.

[@PlantChompers]

Which link? Did you have a paper to share?

[@ervinjackson3261]

Roy is the real deal. I already been using this and it works.

[@stevef6523]

Just the best videos on the internet about this stuff. Keep up the great work!

[@chewiewins]

Best 21 minutes video summary everyone, especially Diabetic and prediabetic, should watch.

[@emreulbe]

I am not vegan but I change my diet 80% whole food plant based. I lost 27 kg ( 54 lbs ) in 5-6 months. And still losing. My weight goes 107 kg (214 lbs) to 77 kg (154 lbs). I am hypertension and type 2 diabetes patient, my blood sugar was over 200 before with more medication, now with less medication 70-180 range. My hypertension medication 1/6th than before. Most importantly my diet is sustainable, I am very enjoying low fat plant based meals and fruits. First time I was found this diet I can't believe, I sad to me I try it look what's happens, in days my blood sugar drops to normalish range. Then I stick to it. I am so grateful for all plant based vegan community, thanks for all. Sorry for my English it's not my mother language.

[@PlantChompers]

Wow Emre!!! 👏👏👏 That’s awesome. 💪

[@emreulbe]

@@PlantChompers Again thanks a lot for yours and other vegan channels, my life changed good way.

[@briangriffin4378]

You have a gift for being sincere and believable in this jungle of endless theories and I appreciate that you use that gift with humanity and for the good of your fellow man.

[@carmenmarcinkiewicz7149]

As usual, incredibly important information.....with GORGEOUS backgrounds!!! Thank you for all you do!

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Carmen! I was hoping the backgrounds wouldn't just be thought of as distracting...

[@carmenmarcinkiewicz7149]

@@PlantChompers I sooooo appreciated the backgrounds!!!

[@adamokoriscant8500]

I don't always agree with you, but I gotta respect how far you go down the rabbit hole

[@wagstaff6135]

This is really extraordinarily well done -- sorts out so many seeming contradictions, so many specific questions I had -- between what works short-term and what is actually healthy, between what the "pop" view of particular science is vs. what it really says, and has some good guesses where we're not 100% sure (like a Carvalho vs Esselstyn pov on oils). Earned a sub, for sure.

[@nondescriptname715]

Thanks you so much for sharing all this information in a clear, calibrated and fun way. I adore it and share it with my teenage niece, who wants to enter the biochemical field. This Roy Taylor episode, and his 1000 kCal advice, brought my sugar levels back to normal in two days! That after struggling for months on the high fat and high carb varieties of too much food. Keep up the good work!

[@DrReginaldFinleySr]

Excellent overview of some of the thinking behind the causal mechanisms of diabetes and how to prevent it. Thank you!

[@kaiustaelore4068]

Have you considered making a blog where you can recommend books with brief summaries and who you would recommend them for, that you have covered or will cover or might not get to cover. You are a great resource for things I might've not ever come across without you. A substack would be fine: It’s free i think. Love your work. Keep up the great job.

[@mandybyrd1788]

Another amazing, informative video that centers science and discusses important topics clearly - Your work is truly appreciated!

[@78cheerio]

This ALT info is the most specific I’ve heard. Thank you!

[@chrisi4517]

It’s difficult to add anything that others haven’t already covered but I can’t help but just thank you for your considered & intelligent oversight. Your videos are a pleasure to watch.

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Chris!

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Chris!

[@lpg12338]

One of the most important things to remember when reading a report or study, is who is paying for the study.

[@donwinston]

I adopted a high fiber low saturated fat quasi vegetarian diet and regular rigorous exercise(cycling) to combat my type 2 diabetes. I lost 75 lbs and now have rock bottom normal blood sugar levels (Exactly 5.0 for two years. I get tested every three months). So I guess the reason is not being vegetarian but losing 75 lbs. But I also had high cholesterol and I'm certain being vegetarian is why I now have very low LDL cholesterol.

[@PlantChompers]

Wow, Donald, congratulations! 👏💪 That is truly impressive.

[@elhombreloco3680]

In my experience as a T2 diabetic of 25 years who is reversing his 13.5 A1c down to almost below 6 and still going down within just 3 months, I can say that, most likely, all of these experts are actually right. If you think about it there is actually no reason why one has to preclude the other... 1. severe calorie restriction works really quickly (and probably works the best overall). Intermittent fasting and water fasting also kind of fall in here, but water fasting is still an enigma as it can raise your lipids, while severe restriction tends to lower them. To this point, my glucose was pretty much perfect for a few days straight. Then I would overeat on peanuts one day - not too many carbs overall, but a lot of calories. I would have trouble getting my glucose back to normal for two days after that (would constantly hover around 120). If I ate very little the next day, my glucose would be back to normal on the second day. This has been a pretty robust observation so far (I think I've seen this happen 3-4 times - don't blame me, I love peanuts). 2. extremely low carb also works - this is what I've been doing and my numbers have literally plummeted into the ground (in fact my blood glucose might be better than yours). I regularly register below 80 fasting glucose, sometimes in the 60s. Almost never go over 120. I do eat animal foods high in saturated fat, but I also eat avocados, pecans, walnuts, pumpkin seeds, hazelnuts, broccoli, cauliflower and kimchi. I am almost constantly in ketosis with my ketones hovering between 1.7 and 3.5. And yes, I agree, if I ate even a single apple, my glucose would probably jump up to 200 and stay there for a while (I'll test this at some point, not ready yet), but as research has shown, high saturated fat intake does decrease your insulin response and increases insulin resistance. What the research hasn't shown is if this is a pathological process or a normal physiological adaptation that reverses once we switch from saturated fat back to carbs. 3. low fat high carb also works - I haven't tried this yet, but I do think that extreme low carb might be better as an initial therapy for people with already damaged pancreases (like me) and really really high and stubborn insulin resistance (like me), to allow the pancreas some time to recover and to reduce AGE/inflammation at the same time. I do think that low fat high carb also makes a lot of sense, since it increases insulin sensitivity and most foods are of low caloric density so it's really hard to over consume. What I believe is actually the worst and is one of the main dietary drivers of T2 diabetes is combining saturated fats with carbs on the reg. This is what creates the positive feedback loop that eventually leads to diabetes. Something like saturated fat intake increases insulin resistance, however high blood glucose drives the pancrease to make more insulin, which in combination with more saturated fat further drives insulin resistance. That would explain why highly processed foods are universally accepted as horrible for diabetes (they are usually high in both saturated fat and carbs) and why both low carb and high carb can work for diabetes reversal.

[@susanyounkin4192]

I had gestational diabetes with all 3 of my children and was told that within 10 years I would have full blown type 2 diabetes. That seemed to be the path on which I was heading until I started eating a plant based vegan diet 8 years ago. Since then I have watched my a1c drop every single year. My youngest is about to turn 14 and the doc has decided to stop taking my a1c, since I “show absolutely no signs of diabetes” and she is beginning to question the validity of the glucose tests I took while pregnant. I’m staying on this lifestyle track for the rest of my life! It has also greatly reduced the migraines that Lymes disease had me suffering through.

[@daraohogain]

Many thanks for the insightful dive into Roy Taylor's work on Diabetes. It's really nice to hear the appreciation for the research scientists behind the data. I had the privilege to work with Roy in Newcastle (though not on the diabetes study) and I always found his talks captivating due to his ability to communicate scientific research without the jargon. A big shout out to al the hard working researchers at the MRI Center and a quick recommendation to anyone visiting the UK to go see Newcastle and Northumberland (Banburgh, Lindisfarne, Alnwyck, Cragside are top UK destinations)

[@clampBendersWangdang]

I did WFPB for 2 years and was getting progressively worse. I developed IBS from all the fiber, I had fatigue and needed to go back to bed after breakfast of oatmeal but not before I went to the bathroom for a bout of diarrhea. I had daily headaches, gained weight rapidly and lost muscle mass and couldn't go far after a meal without looking for a bathroom. I had to cut out all grains, legumes and tubers, keeping fiber low before my energy levels were restored and I could travel without worrying about diarrhea.

[@Ampe96]

What do you eat now? I had the same experience with a whole food plant based diet, apart from the weight gain (I lost too much weight)

[@clampBendersWangdang]

@@Ampe96 Basically Paleo. I felt even better a big improvement in energy and headaches when I recently removed the last starchy foods: tubers. I still have to be a little bit careful with high FODMAP fruits for my stomach though but other than that all good.

[@Ampe96]

@@clampBendersWangdang thanks for your answer, I’m glad you’re better. I’m eating low carb right now, been doing that for about three weeks, my bathroom experience improved immensely and I feel ok but with low energy (I’m not eating enough calories and I’m close to underweight). But I’m still so doubtful of what is right to do, everybody has different opinions and every move I make I don’t know if I’m making the right thing or not

[@clampBendersWangdang]

@@Ampe96 Your body have to become fat adapted so you might have to eat a bit more protein and fat to get more energy out of your food. If that doesn't work, try adding some fruit to see where your fat to carb balance is.

[@clampBendersWangdang]

@@Ampe96 The thing is that there is no right and wrong. All you'll find are opinions on KZbin. A plant based diet might work for some but not others. You have to remember that veganism is a moral standpoint, not what works in your body is another story that people on KZbin can't say what's right in your body

[@noblumoon]

The comment about being "too heavy for their own body"...my sister in law had been thin and considered underweight all her life. She had type 2 diabetes and when she died from complications after she had to have her leg removed due to gangrene, she was skin and bone....and I have known several very thin people with DT2.

[@eg7647]

What a fabulous trip! Thanks for sharing all that amazing scenery along with your excellent analysis. You have changed my life and I so appreciate the motivation each video provides to keep me on track. (The grandchildren are growing up so quickly!)

[@CaptainSteve777]

My experience says you're wrong, but I'm going to follow you to make sure I get both sides of the discussion.

[@WerdnaGninwod]

Yes - "Type 2 Diabetes is caused due to excess fat in the liver and pancreas." The sugar connection is that the fructose in sugar (half of it chemically) has to be metabolized by the liver (same as alcohol). If your blood sugar was low, it could convert it to glucose, but that won't happen because the other half of the sugar you consumed was glucose, so the only other choice it has is to convert it to fat in the liver itself. This is how fatty liver disease happens. It's not like this is unknown or some obscure process - the French do this to geese when they make "foie gras" or "fatty liver" - they make them eat excess sugars and their livers fill with fat, then they kill them and serve their livers up as a delicacy. Basically, we've all taken to foie gras'ing ourselves, and this produces fatty liver disease, and subsequently type 2 diabetes.

[@md82892]

They don't feed them with sugar, they feed them with "whole grains" to get the fatty liver disease. Wait, what? Isn't this exactly what this Plant Chomper channel is promoting? (Ditch the meat, eat carbs... If you get fatty liver disease then that's not because of vegan diet)

[@jobrown8146]

I think the key is to find what works for us as an individual.

[@forestappalachia6047]

The meme about ppl not worrying about our health when we were eating pop tarts and sausage biscuits applied to a few of my family members soon after my wife and I switched to vegan. Now 5 years later they seem less worried. Also Chris, as a forester, I enjoyed seeing the European autumn colors in this vid. They have many of the same tree species we have here in the US. I'm in Michigan's upper peninsula now seeing vibrant colors in the forests.

[@natalietannerblogger-theed9419]

I totally get this and do NOT understand why people come out of the woodwork to worry about how I will get my protein from a. WFPB diet, but no one was worried about my triglycerides before???

[@ronclarke154]

As a MD MSc (nutrition) and obsessed Re nutritional podcasts I am so thankful you chose home over homeless since you’ve become the voice of scientific reason “truth” in a chaotic field

[@CristinaAcosta]

At 6 weeks into my 12 weeks vegan experiment my cholesterol dropped from 298 to 207!! Blood pressure from yellow zone to green. Im far from perfect, eating vegan Trader Joe’s hotdogs and Italian sausage a couple meals per week. High aspirations and intermittent strictness are fine for now. Much easier to comply ( the vegan hotdogs are my bridge food)than I expected. Onwards

[@PlantChompers]

Wow, Christina!!! 👏👏👏 So great to hear. 😁💪

[@CristinaAcosta]

@@PlantChompers Thanks. I am rather surprised. I’ve been doing intermittent fasting for three years and had very positive health changes. Nonetheless, things seemed to plateau then began gently sliding backwards. This small change to Vegan in the past several weeks has yielded huge results. Thanks for the inspo. Love your referrals to Dr. Gill Carvalho.

[@michellestreb9224]

So grateful I found you & your podcasts! Love & appreciate your through but easy to understand scientific information.

[@evanpeterjones]

I've noticed that as well (6:30)! I started hearing epidemiology couldn't prove causation a few years ago but I learned the term epidemiology because my mother was a nurse, and told me epidemiologists proved that smoking causes cancer. That's always confused me. Glad to know I'm not the only one.

[@PlantChompers]

Those smoking studies were genius, by two British Researchers who were knighted by the queen - Richard Doll and Richard Peto. Google Dr. Doll and you won't be sorry. 👏

[@notyourdad]

The difference is the strength of the correlation where the rate of cancer incidence in smokers is something in the neighborhood 5000% compared to non smokers, meanwhile the increase in incidence in heart disease among meat eaters is generally in the neighborhood of 20% or less. That is a relative increase as well, and a 20% relative increase in heart disease is absolutely miniscule and can absolutely not be taken as an indication of anything - now if that increase was similar to the one seen in smoking in relation to cancer that would be a completely different story. And yes, there is still not any causal evidence between smoking and cancer but the correlation is strong enough that it's worth taking seriously.

[@penultimatename6677]

No one is saying epidemiology is bad. Just that it is not as rigorous as other studies. The meat causation is very weak. We also have to consider the studies used in the comparisons. Often they have a bias or not rigorous. Maybe the group is eating low carb but what is the studies definition of low carb. What is the lifestyle of the group. Is the study closely monitoring the food choices. Smoking studies are easier to monitor. You either smoke or you don't smoke. The number of packs of cigarettes might be a bit inaccurate in these studies but much easier than following food choices.

[@dionnestanford4703]

Thank you so much. I have rarely seen someone on line with ideas which so closely align with my own. I also have heart issues which are similar to yours and diabetes in the family. I will be paying extra close attention to my fat intake from now on, as I have been having chest issues recently.

[@alexwilder8315]

I've been thinking about how the veterinarian recommendation is to not give your cat 24/7 access to unlimited food, and to scrupulously weigh their biscuits. This is probably what aliens would do if I were their pet. Maybe I should treat myself a little more like my cat.

[@tintinlavigne5257]

Just give to your cat his proper food and all your vet problems will magically disappear. Or perhaps science will try to convince me that cats are not carnivore? Who know now🙄

[@VeganV5912]

@@tintinlavigne5257 Gorilla Genus of large African apes For other uses, see Gorilla (disambiguation). “Blackback” and “Silverback” redirect here. For other uses, see Blackback (disambiguation) and Silverback (disambiguation). Not to be confused with Guerrilla. Gorillas are herbivorous, predominantly ground-dwelling great apes that inhabit the tropical forests of equatorial Africa. The genus Gorilla is divided into two species: the eastern gorilla and the western gorilla, and either four or five subspecies. The DNA of gorillas is highly similar to that of humans, from 95 to 99% depending on what is included, and they are the next closest living relatives to humans after chimpanzees and bonobos. W. ikipedia

[@VeganV5912]

@@tintinlavigne5257 ... Actual photos clogging up the arteries eating animals. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonMmKB9j9BofLc .. They are Herbivores, ✅❤️😬|-_|💪🦍< are not “Omnivores” !!!!! They never have plaque !!!!! Only humans have plaque eating animals and their secretions. Heart attack is fat deposits clog in the arteries 🧟‍♂️🦠💩🍖🥓🥩🍣🍳🍗🧀🍦🥛... 🔴.... . We’ve got long long stomachs. Flat teeth 🦷. Little flat teeth 😬. We are herbivores. We act like ‘Omnivores’, get cancer and heart attack and high blood pressure and diabetes and fat deposits clog in the arteries and Alzheimer’s, is eating animals and their secretions, fat deposits !!!!! You can see the fat you eat !!!!! Meat eaters, and 🍗 and 🍖🥓 and fish and cheese et cetera, have 51% death rate, no fibre !!!! Stays in your body and rots !!!! Deodorant mask the symptoms but you still smell 🤮, your feet and shoes and socks and armpits 🤮. Vegans have 4% cancer and that’s it !!!! Lots of fibre if you eat plants and fruit and nuts and berries and tubers and lentils and beans and potatoes et cetera !!!! Peer review science !!!!

[@Paul-Weston]

Biscuits, why are giving your cat Biscuits??. You should be prosecuted for animal cruelty.

[@tintinlavigne5257]

@@Paul-Weston by biscuits perhaps it's dry pets food or kibble

[@wngimageanddesign9546]

I will share from experience. I was 50, top of my health and fitness. BF at 8%, 5'10" 150lbs. Just finished a 2,300 mile bike tour of the Pacific coast. Omnivore Asian-American. I got convinced to switch to a vegan lifestyle to preserve and extend my health. In two years, I first developed arthritis, then Lupus, Hashimoto's Disease. I continued with my vegan diet not knowing the causes and most doctor's just said it's all psychological. I was living healthy. No sugar, no read meats, fruits, grains, legumes, nuts, cheese, rice, pasta, greens. I gained a huge amount of visceral fat, had Cushings Syndrome. Loss a lot of muscle mass, hair loss, skin disorders, worsening vision, tinnitus, horrific constipation, joint pain, spasms, cramps, and BPH. 5 years in, I developed insulin resistance/pre-diabetes. All my conditions made me unable to ride a bicycle ever since. And haven't been able to ride for 7 years. I had to give up my life long passion. 2022 I had enough and decided to try the carnivore diet after investigating others who had suffered similar circumstances, from perfect health to nearly identical symptoms and illnesses. The first 3 months of returning to eating red meat (beef) eggs, cheeses, chicken, fish, no sugars, no fruits, no seed oils, no grains, and limited refined carbs/starches....made a dramatic change and turn around in my health. I learned from actually living through it. Vegan and plant-based diet will lead to a dead end and chronic health problems. It robbed me of my life and lifestyle. And I'm slowly recovering now. The answer is YES, sugar, starches and carbs are the cause of Type-2 Diabetes. I ate tons of carbs, fruits, beans, legumes, produce, and it caused my Hashimotos, then insulin resistance, and Cushings syndrome. I always lived a life of avoiding sugar and don't drink sugary drinks or juices. I was healthy prior to veganism. No signs of diabetes before.

[@PlantChompers]

It sounds like you had a food intolerance like Mikhaila Peterson. Did you ever get a diagnosis for what it was? On a population basis, there are far more people with health problems like you describe who eat meat, eggs, etc., so I like to know the diagnosis.

[@kathleenklein4231]

I don't have diabetes, but the doctor said possible pre-diabetes. I am switching to plant-based, just can't seem to give up yogurt yet. I think 700-800 calories a day is insane. I was doing 700-800 calories a day when I was active in ballet in high school and that led to an eating disorder.

[@PlantChompers]

Well, of all the dairy products, yogurt is probably the best, no? At least the low sugar varieties. My wife and I make yogurt from unsweetened soy milk and add fruit, and we love it. 😋

[@disinformationworld9378]

Fasting is zero calories. There can be a balanced pattern of fasting and eating to cure diabetes. Dr. Fung has done this with many patients (an appalling hack job “review” of his book on this channel).

[@disinformationworld9378]

Any by the way “excess fat” in the liver is exactly what too much insulin resistance and carbs cause. But for some reason Dr Fungs book was trashed for saying the same thing a different way. Dietary fat is not causing fatty liver disease unless you are eating an extremely high amount (extremely unlikely due to satiety). That’s carbs. Dr Fungs point is that fasting alone has impacts on improving insulin resistance. This is one of the keys to curing diabetes.

[@deefee701]

There is one thing that Keto, Paleo, Vegan, plant based, starch based, vegetarian all have in common. And it links to what your doctor is saying about reducing how much we eat.

[@sammiegirl883]

I started eating low carbs and reversed my diabetes in 6 months and my cholesterol is very healthy now.

[@md82892]

Yes they'll say you shouldn't be alive by now. If by coincidence you get to live, you'll die soon because "studies" says so.@@avasdv

[@regather59]

Wow, this was an excellent overview. I've been searching for this kind of clarity.

[@Bankai90]

So what I wanna know is can I eat saturated fat while being in a low BMI/caloric intake? I have no issue to be at 8-12% BF while eating all macros in balance, with saturated fat included.. But highcarb lowish fat makes me not only gain weight easier, I also feel hungry most of the day. So basically I'm getting fat while starving.

[@tazot4064]

Are you saying you eat 33% protein, 33% carbs and 33% fat? Is that what you mean by "balanced"? Because according to nutritional organization recommendations, eating 33% saturated fat is not balanced.

[@Bankai90]

​@@tazot4064 Oh I'm well aware of the current science and the recommendations. But I feel like shit when I live like that. And i feel incredibly good when i don't. That's why I've some struggle to go through with those recommendations for a longer period of time And no I don't mean 33% saturated fat. God even if I eat animal products 3x a day my sat fat will be around 10gr at best. Unless you use butter, coconut oil or tons of milk it's not that easy to rack up saturated fat. Eggs, salmon, meat. You'd have to eat quite a lot each day to hit 20gr lol. Most saturated fat comes from junk food. Cookies, ice, cake. And here it's usually even worse with vegan products. So the thing that is up for me which is bad with the guidelines is the cholesterol intake, this one adds up very fast. But for me it's insanely satiating.

[@CobaltContrast]

Switching to a plant based diet reversed my cholesterol to that of a baby. It's been over a decade and I feel great. I made the change after having kidney and liver failure. Made a full recovery.

[@CobaltContrast]

@11B being a proud parent I agree. That ends within 2 years of their lifespan. That's why breast milk is for babies. Cow milk is for baby cows. Not humans.

[@CobaltContrast]

@@ChappySinclair no you! Go Vegan.

[@tamcon72]

This was another incisive and engrossing video. Not surprised to find that the evidence for the most salutary diet keeps piling up: More plants is better than fewer. Hope you had a wonderful vacation in the Baltics & Scandinavia; it's so important for children to travel, and it's good for adults, too! Thanks for posting : )

[@gusgonnet]

Bravo Chris, you not only take us on a healthier journey, but you also take us on vacation with you and your family. I loved the ever-changing scenery, very entertaining. The lip-syncing was priceless, and the info was great - thanks again!

[@stevenfrew9301]

Another great and informative video, thank you. It's helpful to have someone such as yourself to break down the studies and science into layman terms.

[@donnasimpson9731]

First time watcher - what a great video - the most info packed video I have ever watched - thank you - I subscribed as I don't want to miss one of your fabulous videos - keep em coming.

[@RoyalDavid]

Kudos to your most through and persistent investigation. However, in my experience a plant-based diet includes too many carbs that convert to glucose or include fructose and subsequently raise insulin levels. Perhaps specific to myself my success has been contingent on overall carb minimization.

[@notyourdad]

Fructose does not raise insulin - just a little correction.

[@RoyalDavid]

@@notyourdad Thanks most kindly. But Alas, it raises Glucose in the Blood and it contributes to Fatty Liver?

[@garyloewenthal]

@@RoyalDavid Predominantly (though not all the time), in the studies I've read on PubMed, there is an inverse relationship between fruit consumption and incidence of fatty liver disease. Ditto for whole grains. In clinical studies, the addition of at least certain fruits (e.g., blueberries) measurably lowers the insulin response to a given meal. It seems the quality of the carbs ingested (e.g., an apple vs an apple pie) makes a major difference.

[@mertonhirsch4734]

It is very important for people to realize that while fat intake increases insulin requirements and insulin levels and therefore can cause insulin resistance in the short and long term, diets with the same calories, but lower carb and higher fat will not result in as high blood sugar excursions (or drops), A1C and glycolytic damage. They will require similar insulin exposure although the lower carb, higher fat diets tend to require a little less (10%) at the same calorie level because the body tends to over-release insulin for carbs because they tend to raise blood sugar faster, while higher fat diets produce slow, and less profound rises in blood sugar and so insulin release is a little less. On a maintenance calorie diet with 50% carbs, my A1C will settle in at about 5.3, while on a maintenance calorie diet with 25% carbs it will be around 4.8 and blood glucose kills pancreatic cells.

[@bunkermunk1707]

Great info as usual from Mr Chompers! The openning shot on the deck of the M/S Viking Mariella which passes my window twice every other day in Stockholm. It's the best way to cross the Baltic. The other ship in the museum is the Vasa which sank in Stockholm in 1628 and was raised in the 1950's. A must see if you ever come to the Swedish capital for a visit.

[@PlantChompers]

👆 Bunker knows his stuff! The Vasa museum is one of the most amazing thing I have ever seen. 👏 👏 👏

[@bunkermunk1707]

@@PlantChompers I must correct myself. That was the Viking Gabriella not the Mariella in the shot. The Mariella ran the same route until 2021 when it was sold to Corsica Ferries. Thanks for the compliment.! I enjoy your videos more than any other nutrition channel I follow and I am delighted every time a video of yours comes into my feed.

[@pixievincent2478]

Wow! Not only is this episode full of amazing information that solidifies my beliefs in plant-based lifestyle, but you are amazing to watch - able to pull off such coherent information while transitioning from place to place. Please 'fess up - did you do all of the content at each stop and just splice it together, or did you actually PLAN how to chop it all up from place to place? I sure do appreciate your ways of keeping things interesting and current.

[@counterstrike89]

Did you ever hear of the French paradox, they also eat a lot of meat and rich dairy, they don't have heart disease or diabetes, most of Europe has meat.

[@BrocLarter]

The french paradox has been debunked. They undercounted heart disease and eat a lot of vegetables. When there's an outlier, it's best practice to look at the outlier more closely than throwing out the hypothesis that all the other data points lean towards.

[@oon-kum]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qomtaZilaLVjjJosi=UID6GZAitJhx-I-4

[@greenleafyman1028]

The french was paradox was proven false and there are actually no paradox happening at all. What happened why french has lower diseases despite eating a lot of meat was due to french physicians underreporting disease related deaths according to World Health Organization Investigation.

[@darongardner4294]

Your body is designed to walk ,I walk 2 hours a day split into three stages ,one hour walk and two half hour walks .I have been doing this for years I eat one meal a day .Body fat content is a stable 14 per cent.Walking can be done on most surface types and you can walk in any foot ware you like.

[@patrycja2696]

I was diagnosed with prediabetes and insulin resistance. Now after doing Keto, now carnivore my prediabetes is gone, insulin resistance gone, full blood work and lipid panel, tummy organs scan and heart are like in 16 years old. I have amazing mood and tones of energy from 5.30 am until 9.30 pm!!!

[@jasminhembrow9400]

Thank you. I am on the verge of type 2 diabetes. This information has helped me very much conclude what i need to do for prevention and reversal of type 2 diabetes. Thank you Sir.

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

Don't always agree with everything shown but always enjoy your videos. What truly baffles me is how many fight for "A" or "B" when we don't truly know, could be "C". Or in the end we may find the answer is all of the above but in proper periodization based on a matrix of factors per each individual..... Meaning we may find the so called perfect diet for person XX is not the perfect diet for person ZZ. There is much we don't know yet everyone wants to write a #$@$!&+:"*_ book like it is fact. We must stop the book writing and stop the Publish or Perish until we have a better answer. Would any of theses doctors or scientist turn in a final exam in math class with an answer of "could be 9 but might be x+1" ? No. Plus no one want to address the elephant - what if the perfect diet is meat and there are a billion people without resources or access to meat? Or say vegetables? Or what if they just plain hate both. Hardest part about dealing with humans is emotions, beliefs, social paradigms and economic differences. Then when we add in governments, big business, greed,....wow what a mess. Thanks for your hard work.

[@yeetghostrat]

My dad is pre-diabetic and obese, and he doesn't eat as much as he should. But he does eat a lot of sugar. I've had bouts that my blood sugar was acting almost like a type 1 diabetic, and I can always link them to sugar. My weight has always been perfectly smack in the middle of where it should be, sometimes actually dipped underweight. I'm actually pretty certain our problems are more caused by hormones, estrogen specifically, than 'carbs'. Sugar causing spikes in estrogen, rather than blood sugar. I have endometriosis and my dad's fat content obviously increases his estrogen. Both of us have a really difficult time getting proper nutrition due to food sensitivities, physical disabilities that make cooking extremely painful, and being low income. Sugary foods are cheap and filling, if you get the right ones. When it comes to "carbs", that gets complicated. Both of us do just fine with glutinous rice, tapioca, and some other starches, no spikes or later drops. But I can't handle potatoes, my dad can't do oats, and all simple sugars send my blood sugar into a tizzy. Corn syrup is absolutely the worst. And yes I self experimented to get a firm conclusion on that. Corn syrup is the quickest way to get me oral thrush. My blood sugar and yeast issues have improved considerably ever since I switched to a diet based on heavy cream and very minimal sugar. Admittedly I kick-started that with a 2 week round of anti-fungals+probiotics to clear out the side effect from being on constant antibiotics for my whole childhood- jumping straight into sugar free just wasn't working, even with supplements and the like. I have issues with my kidneys and liver, kidneys from constant infections as a kid and liver was damaged by a medication, they start to shut down if my ketones spike AND yeast will feed on ketones if you starve it of all carbs, so I couldn't completely cut out carbs- I just had to find ones that my body responded well to. Glutinous rice, the absolute demon according to all diabetes experts, is the one I tolerate best, even next to 'complex' carbs. I really believe the hatred of some foods is rooted in racism more than science. But in the end all I can go off of is my own experience based on my VERY unique body. I'm not a scientist and my dad refuses to cooperate with my experiments. Will not give up soda or cake, and refuses to be poked by the lancet to test his blood.

[@ghostviggen]

Low carb in combination of fasting has been great for my blood sugar. It’s the mixed meals with carbs and fat that is the problem.

[@PlantChompers]

Sounds like masked symptoms.

[@ghostviggen]

@@PlantChompers Nope, glucose tolerance improved when I tested. The problem in western society is when we eat a mixed diet with highly processed food. Even Linnè discovered back in the day that low carb eating Sami in northern Sweden were healthier the the grain eating farmers in southern Sweden. The farmers mixed fat and carbs in their diet.

[@ApexRevolution]

@@ghostviggen Glucose tolerance may have improved due to weight loss however. Meat, especially red meat, has been shown many times to be unhealthy.

[@ghostviggen]

@@ApexRevolution No meat has never been proven to be unhealthy. Several cultures eat mostly meat and are doing fine.

[@jazzbaia]

16:26 On eating real food No other advice beats that. ;) Note: If the ingredients label has too many "somethings" that you don't know about, put it back in the shelf. Also, I believe the FDA stated that any ingredient (or the thing manufacturers want to be secret) that is less than half a gram when considering serving amount can be omitted in the Nutrition label. So, if 1 can of whatever product is like 33 servings you're sure that the nutrition information focuses on a single serving.

[@clampBendersWangdang]

What everybody forgets about diabetes is that both low fat high carb and high fat low carb works for diabetes and the reason is the randle cycle that everybody forgets about because the have an ideology behind their diet. Diabetes occurs because most people eat high carb and high fat at the same time which leads to our cells rejecting anymore input.

[@singularity6761]

Typo. "Randle cycle" is what you mean.

[@clampBendersWangdang]

@@singularity6761 exactly. Phone's autocorrect

[@marcusvaldes]

I love your science based approach. Best channel I've found in awhile. Have you done anything on John McDougall?

[@NiranjanBendre]

Great video as usual! Carbs are not the villian!

[@johndsmithkoipondgarden.878]

About two years low carb, 75 years old, feel like I`m 55, my blood work has improved, no high cholesterol, no other bad markers. A1C 5.3 Feel so great, I will never go back to a high carb diet. I do a daily food dairy, so I know I`m getting all vitamins and minerals.

[@m-hadji]

After 25 years dealing with diabetes the only thing worked for me was - are you sitting?- elimination all carb from my diet. At least the one I could see and taste. It’s almost a year and I lost 45 lbs. i got a CGM and my mad doctor terminated my insulin injections along 3 other drugs. According to you I am getting worse latter but I take this small victory for now. By the way I have not miss fruits that much. And I definitely happier without 7injections. Beside that , it can be my mental dysfunction but l feel more energetic and walk at least 2 hours a day or bike 100 miles a week. Anyway my points is for now I am ok with stopping buying low fat stuff and missing one meal a day if I don’t feel having it.

[@Moralatheist101]

Your post was awesome and I, too, am on the same page as you! I might get worse later but for now, I'll take feeling better as a sign that I'm on the right track with eliminating all carbs! Cheers!

[@45-Subscribers]

@@Moralatheist101 how would it get worse later?

[@md82892]

@@45-Subscribers No one knows, but Vegans say so according to their studies. We and all of our ancestors was supposed to be having fatty liver disease and cardiovascular diseases and have an early death because of eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years. We exist because 200.000 years ago animals were actually made of plants (so we were qualified as vegans), animals decided to evolve in the last 100 years to become meat and unhealthy. 😜

[@k8eekatt]

Thank you for sharing what you have learned. This is really pulling back a lot of foggy confusion.

[@koyuki6113]

Hey chris, I have something to ask. Have you read any data on the dangers of underweight people? I have maximally gone to 52kg of weight by consuming tons of butter and dairy everyday for about 2 years when my grandma said I have to get fatter in the past (52kg is still underweight for me). After that, I started looking more into health and also went vegan which dropped me by about 5kg and so I weigh 47kg right now (bmi of 16.9). The thing is, I want to weigh around 49-50kg (even though that's still underweight), reason why is because I've actually experienced high blood cholesterol and symptoms of heart disease even though I'm only 19. My actual question being, do you think it's safe to consume around 20 ml (161 calories) of olive oil a day to get to the weight of 49-50kg? My diet normally consists of just whole foods and only fats for breakfast (nuts and peanutbutter). I will see a dietician soon about this, but I'm sure that you know more about this type of research, given that you have to be very careful your self and read a lot about the literature.

[@PlantChompers]

Hmmm, Koyuki, that's a good question. My respect for doctors keeps deepening as I wonder how they answer questions like this. I get the feeling that you are a woman, probably not very tall, am I right? If you were older, I'd worry about osteoporosis, but being underweight is so common among youth. I know adults worry about it but my understanding is problems are pretty rare among thin youth. My wife, our kids, our grandkids were all rail thin growing up, no doctor had a concern, and they are still for the most part at a good weight, although it's creeping up. But no health problems from being so thin as teens.

[@davidyong8719]

Instead of olive oil, I recalled Dr Kim Williams saying can boost calorie intake and gain weight by eating nuts, seeds, avocado and soybeans. Get the nutrients and fiber in addition to the calories.

[@koyuki6113]

@@PlantChompers Yeah, I’m a short woman, you guessed that right. Thank you for sharing that, it atleast puts me a bit more at ease, but yeah, osteoporosis is something I was worrying about.

[@koyuki6113]

@@davidyong8719 I have already tried that, and I probably would try that again, snacking on nuts throughout the day. But I have another problem that is, I’m on a super tight budget as a student and nuts and seeds are really expensive here, and about soybeans, I haven’t seen a package anywhere that contains them as a whole food, I normally eat all of the other legumes though.

[@Magnulus76]

Being a little underweight is OK and not all that abnormal in people that eat a healthy plant-based diet. Eating more nuts and dried fruit is a healthy way to gain weight. Use some canola, olive, or sesame oil in your cooking, as well.