PLASMA 6 DEVLOG: December Edition!

[@EHKvlogs]

making content covering linux while also contributing in it. you are a legend.

[@KoopstaKlicca]

Great work! I'm really excited for Plasma 6 and can't wait to use it!

[@middle_pickup]

I'm currently researching what Linux distro I want to switch to, but I definitely know I want plasma. Cool video.

[@alice-smith]

HEXWORLD looks amazing!

[@presi3005]

"it cannot break", now those are some famous last words

[@HeroRareheart]

Oh damn, I love all those wallpapers. That's a tough choice...

[@danielevans465]

Love the work you do, can't wait to try it out on my desktop

[@MrAlexFortis]

Big, big like for Fibonacci sequence :)

[@theswedishlinux1297]

First of all I want to say BIG thanks for everything you did and do and will do for the KDE and Linux. It's because of KDE I stay at Linux and lov it. Big Thanks from The Swedish Linux

[@brayd1778]

The tinted headers are so nice and improve the UI so much. Makes Plasma much more modern looking using the Breeze theme.

[@mr.hot_h3ad364]

hey the background in this video is much more comfortable,dimmer lights feel much better.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Thanks for helping to make Plasma so freaking good Nicco! Here, you can have these: 🐧👍🐧🤗🐧

[@n.m4497]

Excellent work Nicco! Hope the donations keep on coming

[@megadjc192]

Something that could help you guys with development and bug testing. You could create mouse and keyboard macros that open and close and manipulate all aspects of the GUI. Then you can connect them together randomly to simulate as many valid combinations as possible. This could help you find bugs in an automated manner. I'm looking forward to testing KDE plasma 6 when it drops.

[@TheZakarumite]

Thank you. Very appreciated

[@Cmdr_Kraid]

The wallpapers are very coool and the dodge window feature is what I didnt know I needed

[@evropej]

As an electric electrical engineer for 15 years of experience, I can tell you that don’t care conditions always crash software. Verify information in plasma by checking the allowed ranges and not allowing other ranges. Great work and a great project! Let’s focus on stability first then rigidity then speed and efficiency before we add more tasks to those projects which are already overwhelmed

[@restagner99]

"I'm going to bug fix, bug fix, bug fix ...." THANK YOU Nicco 🙂

[@MrWhonobody]

Top!!! And what about tilling mode? Bismuth was great, maybe you can take some features from Bismuth? Hotkeys, gaps, logics of tilling

[@red_ben3487]

excellent work, you and all the other developers. really looking forward to plasma 6 (tho i will probably not run the beta... maybe in a vm to find bugs if i have some free time, but i made a resolution to not run beta software on production hardware anymore... we'll see if i actually stick to that...) all we need now is the parallax zoom animations and plasma will have a proper native dock! maybe in plasma 6.1? 😁

[@bublybublybubly]

Lets goooooooooo, keep it up mang :D

[@docopoper]

Thanks Nicco!

[@rockonthemoon]

nice, nice Nicco, is there a specific reason why Panel Position option does not have a cascade menu like the other ones? I still feel the blue panel border on panel edit mode is awkward.. .. and that maybe custom panel width is just an option too much. did you ever try app menu button on the left and task manager in the middle? Fits.. Fitt's law amazingly! btw, really looking forward to final release, it's getting a real big hit 👍🏼

[@Lavashyk]

Amazing news about panels. Current panel editing is challenging for me. Now, I will enjoy it, thank you!

[@AlexandruVoda]

I also love the Harmony wallpaper.

[@braelinmichelus]

Will there still be a way to make the headers the accent color, rather than tinting? Cause I happen to like that look...

[@kaz49]

Wait, I can right-align my panel now? I don't think I'll ever use it, but hooray for customizability I guess ;) Also I just had to pause to stare at the new wallpapers. The one with the reddish tree is really really nice.

[@niccoloveslinux]

You always could!

[@kaz49]

@@niccoloveslinux I just tried it, and promptly discovered that an "undo" option for panel changes would be very desirable :) Oh, and I didn't know that floating panels are already available in 5.27! I never tried it before and it definitely looks really cool, though interaction with maximized windows could be better... It'd be cool if maximizing a window left a little gap above the panel and the wallpaper would be visible as like a little border around the panel.

[@Qyngali]

I hope we'll get step by step undo for editing some time... and a cancel that brings you back to what you had before you started editing. It's the biggest gripe I have with Plasma.

[@4nyNoob]

so refresing to see nicco casually rocking a lesbian flag while a not insignifficant part of the linux community would freak out about this it might seem pointless or silly (even annoying to some people) but if we want to be an welcoming community, that's the spirit

[@duckrinium]

People gotta stop freaking out about stuff like this, and those are pretty colors as well :)

[@landlocked4771]

Nicco the only thing I didn't like about the current version of Plasma 5.27.9 is you can install theme's with one click but you can not uninstall them with on click, shouldn't be just as easy to remove something that you added. Makes me not want to try other themes. Thanks for all you do out there you absoulutely make the world a better place.

[@yavener]

hi Nicco! Is there a way to disable sticky edges (at least with top and bottom ones)?

[@VektrumSimulacrum]

imo, Harmony and Sun/comet would be really nice as the dark/light default wallpaper options respectively. Those to scream KDE Plasma to me. Waves and Stairway for abstract wallpaper options would be pretty nice extra. I personally don't think Hexworld fits but I see why it made the finalist short list. I could take or leave Flow.

[@theplaymakerno1]

This man's accent cured my depression.

[@alexstone691]

I like this look into bugs/problems during developmemt

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

Whenever I see Nicco, I can't help but wonder when his face will reach puberty.

[@niccoloveslinux]

>:( I'm way past that

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

@@niccoloveslinux 🤭

[@conjurermast]

I think Harmony should win for a number of reasons, I'm just afraid that the lack of minimalism would put the judges off.

[@thericermoon]

one thing that needs change im plasma tasks is when I have 2 or more open windows for a task, down there on task icon, show a + symbol, which is ugly, CHANGE IT IN DOTS OR DASHES, or smth better looking :).

[@redn3nder]

Please please please give us an option to have floating panels with a bit of space when maxed out windows! I would love that as it looks really good aesthetically

[@legendboyAni]

SUN / COMET is what i would pick.

[@brokegamer353]

Hi nicco i am simple user and have two very simple question. I hope you will consider them to apply in kde plasma. 1. Please include driver manager like linux mint has it helps alot for installing wifi and display driver. 2. Please add sperate tool for uninstall apps and themes that completely remove all the settings along with removing app so if we need to install them we don't have to go and remove conflicts file.

[@rottsteyner]

Plasma 6 will surprise with a quick settings menu in the system tray? I mean at least as an alternative plasmoid? I have been waiting to see such a feature for a long time and possibly many other users too. Something similar to what's in Plasma Mobile would be great on the desktop. Even Gnome has a feature like this.

[@Fe1538C]

Question: in KDE PLASMA 6 will be Dolphin finally have fix TAB size option. Similarly in Kwrite Kate Open Recent why file name + [full path to the file ...] it can be long. Thanks

[@Khytau]

thanks!

[@Beryesa.]

Devlog dance! 🪩🎉

[@tranthien3932]

Nicco finally gives us the answer of "How is Plasma 6?"

[@RossDevitt]

Hi Nikko, Coming into this a bit late and Testing Beta 2 (as of 24th Dec) on an i5 Surface Pro, I noticed that in the Settings > Display where there's the option to Rotate the screen, someone has forgotten that Tablets and Convertibles are beconing very poular and KDE 6 is likely to land on more than just mine. So what is Missing, is an Auto-Rotate Toggle, like the one in Mint Cinnaom for example. I know that rotating the screen is not a part of KDE that is 'your project', but when I tried reporing it to the KDE bugs link, (and I accidentally posted the report twice because it's 10 years since I tested KDE) I was told it was resolved (with my second request being the resolution apparently). All that is needed to fix this, is not even a code thing. It is simply to include: gawk and iio-sensor-proxy in the build. Both packages are in the repo already. Any chance you can pass the suggestion on to whoever is responsible for stuff like that. Just for info, once I do Oops - I was tired (I've fixed the line below): sudo apt install gawk iio-sensor-proxy and reboot, the Toggle for 'Orientation ( ) Automatic' Option appears and I can set it on. So it isn;t a high tech fix, and since it had been an often requested feature during Plasma 5, it would enhance Plasma 6 for those who like Convertibles like Yoda and some Spectres etc. if someone can just add those two packages. So far though, Kde 6 Beta 2 and Wayland are playing together very nicely, although I did manage to find an installer problem that is not related to the Plasma Desktop, that broke my secondary computer and I had to do a complete rehash of my hard drive. I'll have to let other people 'experience the surprise' for themselves, because now I'm just not game to report bugs that actually break stuff to bugs.kde.org. They don't take kindly to suggestions 🙂 Not like ten years ago when I used to do a lot of testing. Your videos are the main reason I came back to KDE, although you would not like what I have done to 'my' KDE 5 . .

[@gnuplusmatt]

An idea for the floating panel, may or may not be feasible. If you are using the kwin tiling (meta + t) have it continue to float when tiled windows touch it, respecting the padding value

[@RichardiOS275]

yo nice pin

[@CarlosGuzman-t9h]

For panel dodge windows, can you change the response time for it to toggle on and off? I have to pulse in and opposite of the direction where the panel is to bring it back.

[@EHKvlogs]

i have tried plasma 6 beta, i loved the new layout of settings and unified panel editing.

[@gepbalta]

GJ

[@Joseph-mq3bj]

I have actually one question... if I add second monitor, will the panel be displayed on it? Currently it doesn't work!... and doesn't exist simply "copy" method to add panel to new screen :-(

[@niccoloveslinux]

No

[@Joseph-mq3bj]

@@niccoloveslinux Why? I don't like Gnome, but there works perfectly... on Windows works... on Mac works... only KDE is handicapped. Shame!

[@niccoloveslinux]

@@Joseph-mq3bj super complex to implement :-/

[@Joseph-mq3bj]

@@niccoloveslinux but very desirable 😀

[@AkeruForsamee]

LET'S GO LESBIANS!! 🎉

[@voidmind]

Please tell me you asked for 4k resolution for the wallpapers

[@H.e.I.m.D.a.L.L]

Whats missing in panel is mouse hover in dock size mode, currently if you want to use it as a dock and set it at windows can cover it does not show when you hover the mouse to the panel area, like other docks.. you have to minimize all windows to see the panel. you should check that, when any window is maximizes panel dock goes under but when mouse hover the area it appears back,, It does happen sometimes currently but its just lucky hit and miss

[@0.Andi.0]

Hi, is there any way to test plasma 6 from opensuse tumbleweed?

[@ImChaotic1]

We need a blur affect for the panels the translucent is ok but not very transparent add like a blur affect or a option to adjust it.

[@liesdamnlies3372]

The tree. I like the tree. Give me the tree. _grabby hands_

[@lasantha110]

Can u give a link to the wallpaper please.

[@truko22]

👍

[@ritamsaha3512]

Is it just me or has Nicco's skin gotten way smother than before?

[@softwarelivre2389]

He changed his hard light setup for a smoother soft box lightning. It really shows

[@niccoloveslinux]

@@softwarelivre2389 not exactly: I've been doing a couple of videos using the sun natural light. It's risky since the lighting conditions keep changing, but it's very soft

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@niccoloveslinux hmm, very interesting indeed. The sun sometines gives me raccoon eyes, but it depends on if it's a cloudy day or not too. But this video ended up great!

[@Tony-py1nh]

Nicco, i wonder why the playing children wallpaper shown at beginning of video didn't make it to final. This is a fun looking and playful wallpaper.

[@niccoloveslinux]

It's a great drawing by @revelies!

[@zeta_eclipse]

@@niccoloveslinux it looks cool, i just wish it was in a better resolution as setting it as a wallpaper it didn't look good

[@RedDevilBanditt]

Awesome! I love Plasma :3 how is the song called that you used in the video?

[@Eternal-ReTuning]

KDE settings panels and calendar widget has become unusable in modest hardware due to screen size fatness abuse (ex of the x220 Thinkpads, the pi, even the deck). Can you guys consider a true compact mode for cases where screen real estate is needed? Same goes for the right click menus, some QT apps like KDEnlive and Krita who's rich features are starting to get screwed by large margins. The least those apps need is to waste their UI layout with emptiness. I dropped the breeze theme as a result. The fractional scaling don't solve the issue because its a matter of wasted space that right now only a font tweak could mitigate (at the cost of visibility). The heavy or tedious work is not done on tablets yet designers seem to push tablet constraints on desktop users but that's a poor compromise really hurting productivity. I fear in the future KDE will lose more efficiency at the cost of "gnome-ish eye candy" and push power users away (the ones who make the most with the KDE features).

[@arnabsadhukhan]

great work🔥, really appreciate your hard work I have a question about applying wallpaper on a dual monitor setup, how can I apply a extended wallpaper?

[@niccoloveslinux]

Not possible, sorry!

[@prettysheddy]

​@@niccoloveslinuxi dont believe its possible in Windows but is it possible to make an app ( like libreoffice calc) to expand multiple screens? Basically when i full size it the app covers both monitors. I think this would be a window behavior.

[@pulkitkrishna8809]

I think there is a kwin rule for that. @@prettysheddy

[@edwardecl]

Finally can get rid of latte dock. Can't live without it, but it's a really buggy mess.

[@Nets..]

Nicco, are you still working on new icons for Plasma 6?

[@unclefester9113]

Show your chops. Explain why some linux Distros will put their NAME into the computer bios boot menu - while others will only list what the Distro is based on ?

[@ldcgfx8710]

excellent work, Nicco!

[@theluga7363]

I always hope kwallet shuts tf up and stopping asking for password to connect the wifi

[@sambird7]

Curious about the Lesbian pin, what is up with that? Supporting lesbians is good, I just wonder if there is a particular reason.

[@duckrinium]

Yeah just for supporting.

[@edison.s.]

version 6 arrived brilliant...! I am still with the standard edition in version 5

[@HShango]

Not yet fool

[@yorimirus]

Plasma 6 isn't here yet. It will come next year. Not quite sure when, I think in february?

[@edison.s.]

@@HShango It's arrived but it's still in beta, idiot I never talked to you, idiot

[@edison.s.]

@@yorimirus It has arrived and is being tested.

[@aquaponieee]

only an alpha release, it hasn't actually arrived yet

[@ZXGAMER22]

You need to fix kfe neon everytime i try install kfe neon with plasma 6 it fails after installation locals network

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

I always use hidden panels. It's too groovy not to use, and they are out of the way when not needed.

[@azazel9829]

Nicco ma la possibilità di dare un colore personalizzato al pannello?

[@niccoloveslinux]

Basta usare un altro tema plasma o cambiare il colore nel colorscheme (che pure cambia anche lo sfondo delle finestre)

[@azazel9829]

@@niccoloveslinux eh si, però sarebbe carino avere la possibiltà di dare un colore diverso proprio solo al pannello. Penso farebbe comodo ai ricer, però amen uso latte-dock e mi va bene così

[@niccoloveslinux]

@@azazel9829 te l'ho detto, basta cambiare il tema

[@azazel9829]

Ok si, però ad esempio nel mio caso io uso dracula come tema di kde. Il pannello è grigio (circa) sul tema dracula, solo che io lo vorrei fare viola. C'è già un modo per differenziare i colori del tema e quelli del pannello o no/c'è idea di introdurlo? Perdonami per tutte le domande, solo ho ripreso plasma da due settimane dopo 3 anni tra gnome e i3​ e non amo particolarmente latte-dock, preferirei usare il pannello@@niccoloveslinux

[@niccoloveslinux]

@@azazel9829 dovresti modificare il tema plasma

[@alexstone691]

i probably will try it on my laptop but my main machine is on debian and i dont want to touch it as it works great

[@guss77]

I would love to test drive Plasma 6, like I do all beta versions, if not for bug 478082 which makes Plasma 6 unusable for me.

[@peterjol]

when it comes to wallpapers I use variety wallpaper changer app..I love the constantly changing wallpapers it comes up with.

[@braaitongs]

What language is this written in?

[@bidzapfc]

What is that badge my guy?

[@radiolamp]

What's the point of rounding the panel if the windows aren't rounded?

[@alexb8969]

It's good as it is 👍

[@saumyemehrotra5852]

Suggestion: Keep the screen recording you are showcasing as the dominant thing covering the screen and not yourself. Can't see anything properly what you are trying to show.

[@palgun.]

Sun coment looks nc

[@Ankhaz]

Just noticed that you are wearing the lesbian flag pin! Its always great when I see someone in the linux community that actually supports LBTQIA+

[@ISSAMBENTALEB]

Straight men are technically lesbians ;)

[@prettysheddy]

Honestly I think it's a little weird.. why bring politics into this space? I prefer it to be about coding, learning, Linux, KDE Plasma, gnome etc. I actually prefer not to bring those things in this space because 50 percent or more don't agree with those ideas or values.

[@niccoloveslinux]

@@prettysheddy bad news: this is a politics channel about politics things, and LGBT is part of its core values

[@ISSAMBENTALEB]

@@prettysheddy Everybody has the right to express their opinions, whether through speech, signs, or gestures. It wouldn't be a political matter if one of two sides notices it and focus on it.

[@yuppi161]

@@prettysheddy Why bring politics into this space? Because it's impossible not to. If you don't address the dynamics of oppression in a community (yes, the Linux community is, unfortunately, often hostile to the LGBTQ+ community) you are also making a political statement by letting those *politics* proliferate. Nicco is choosing to address this by openly showing his support by wearing a pin, and I thank him for it because the LGBTQ+ community deserves to be able to enjoy and participate to Linux as much as the other communities :) PS: Everything is political, privileged people just have the chance to not worry about it. 🏳‍🌈

[@sirrobertdowneysenior8080]

Wtf wrong with the KDE team why they ain't switching to Rust?

[@francootaola9172]

Please make KDE snap assistant script à real default feature of KDE 6 nico. Please please pleeeease!

[@nova...........]

lesbian badge???? wat

[@duckrinium]

it's to show support

[@AbdullahALSHRIQI]

Wll kde be heavy on pc? & what the minimal spec to run kde 6 i have 8GB of ram and intel core i 7 1255u with intel UHD goof or not i like to run effict like blur

[@tiomkinnyborg2289]

It is fine adding all this new stuff but the basic things don't or will never exist. How about allowing pasting with the mouse into dialog boxes? At present you have to use ctrl-v. Linux is just a half baked cake with fancy iceing. It works but it is never finished. No body tests anything as there are ancient work arounds to do stuff. Monitors that never sleep because? reasons. How do you adjust mouse double click speed? No setting for that. Settings are split across multiple areas that Indiana Jones would never find. But Linux still beats the spy-ware known as Windows. Fix the simple basic stuff first.

[@KomoreBithrows]

To be honest, KDE code is full of hacks and overengineering.

[@quintit]

If being able to change every single shortcut is a hack, then ok lol. Plus, you can do 90% of stuff without every opening a config file.

[@quintit]

Reeeee rounded corners 🤮 (sry tho ur vids are great lol)

[@prettysheddy]

What is that pin on your shirt?

[@niccoloveslinux]

I love how you researched the flag and *still* got it wrong!

[@p0xygen]

That is not the trans flag! You definitely didn't research it correctly!

[@prettysheddy]

​​@@niccoloveslinuxlol that's why edited the comments once I wrote it but obviously I was too slow. Also I didn't realize that there were so many I thought it was only 4. Last time I looked it was because you had one in your background.

[@prettysheddy]

​@@p0xygenlol I edited the comment but was to slow once I realized it. I have no idea what that pin is.

[@StarcrossTV]

​@@prettysheddyits Lesbian

[@mrazurix6258]

the editing is wierd with the burn in thumnail

[@suscactus420]

why are you wearing that pin my guy

[@duckrinium]

To show support

[@suscactus420]

yikes, that's an L

[@duckrinium]

@@suscactus420 You mean Lesbian? ☺

[@EugeniusNaumenco]

my biggest problem with KDE Plasma is that Chrome web apps (KZbin, Google Meet, Google Drive) won't open separately form Chrome, it happens only on Wayland that's why I use only X11, another problem I have on Wayland is that I can't add more than 4 languages it also works weirdly on X11 and I can't type Chinese (no Pinyin, Zhuyin, Tradiotional or Simplified characters), I'm forced to install ibus or something similar, that's a deal breaker in terms of switching, I still use Gnome mostly on my main machine together with KDE tho and only KDE on my office laptops