Plate Carrier and Battle Belt Review

[@johnmadrigal7217]

So on and so forth....

[@bhtshq3033]

I'm working on it my guy! 🤣🤣🤣

[@delta7087]

Nice setup! I like it and your thoughts on each item. You’re the one running it and not someone else. So it’s your choice. Awesome!!!

[@brianr6457]

Good demo and thanks for sticking with a .45. I believe that is a good choice.

[@bhtshq3033]

It's deffinently a shooter preference thing, I am however going to look at a switch to 9mm, but a solid 9mm, checking out a couple and will have more reviews on those as well in the future

[@jhutch1470]

@@bhtshq3033 Check into the M&P 9MM 2.0 full size. Reliable, and many upgrades you can do if you choose. The number one reason you should look into it is the handle angle. Your .45 has an 18 degree handle angle, and so does the M&P. The Glock has a 22 degree handle angle. You will have no muscle memory to point shoot the Glock. Just an idea.

[@invisibletosociety8338]

Good video, I was thinking about changing my setup and you gave me some great ideas.

[@bhtshq3033]

Well thats the purpose of the video my friend.

[@anonymouscitizen2732]

Awesome set up. What listening device do you plug into your push-to-talk?

[@bhtshq3033]

I did a full helmet review video as well on my channel, you can see there what I use

[@derek3708]

I look at the ak/ar debate as "what are my boys running? What am I more likely to scavenge if there is a fight?"

[@bhtshq3033]

100% agree with that view point as well, there is no 100% right answer.

[@mustardman5366]

Right hand shooter and has his huge Rambo knife on his vest where he needs to grab his handgun which is riding high on his gun belt while wearing a vest thats right above where he needs to cram his hand to grab that iron..

[@bhtshq3033]

That is literally not a Rambo knife 🤣🤣🤣, but im enjoying the comedy coming about because of it. Handgun is lower, and hasn't been called an Iron since like the 1800s.

[@roblong5560]

It’s an mre opener

[@jacobiortiz5696]

The amount of times he has said "so on and so forth"

[@bhtshq3033]

Hey man... its what I do! I'm working on it though! I caught myself in my most recent video.

[@literaryartist1]

It's so refreshing seeing someone else not carrying a striker-fire sidearm. I love my striker-fires but man I hate the heard mentality. And I honestly feel that hammer-fire pistols are better. Can't beat the single action IMO. 👍👍

[@masterbaeten88]

The downfall of the 1911 is capacity. Props for not coming off your hill and sticking to it. Double stack guys carry 2 mags on the belt to equal your 3 on the PC, 2 on the belt and 1 in the magwell. Look into a double stack 1911 if you like the commander size handgun. Nice setup overall

[@bhtshq3033]

I'm gonna switch it up I think, switch to a 9mm

[@masterbaeten88]

@@bhtshq3033 if you like the 1911 platform consider a double stack 1911/2011.

[@bhtshq3033]

@@masterbaeten88 I do and dont... it's time for a full change I think. I'm ready to try the next platform.

[@Neel-xe1po]

You have more radio than 99.9% of civilians ... so on and so forth...

[@bhtshq3033]

I like having more than most people. An edge is an edge, no harm in having more, it adds to your capabilities.

[@shuckydarns710]

I’m also in Michigan. Just recently got my first PC and am looking forward to build it out. Where do you shoot at?

[@bhtshq3033]

I shoot at home typically, but I have held Instructional classes elsewhere before but the turn out and last minute cancels usually aren't that stellar, so we stopped doing them.

[@crabgr5084]

Nice video and nice set up!!

[@save2a4all]

What was the website again for gear listing? Add to description please? 🙏

[@bhtshq3033]

If you check my Facebook you will see the full gear listing on a post I made there.

[@millbean13]

I get the desire for multiple shot coverage but in a firefight, the likelihood of taking numerous rounds, as in like 8-10 rounds in a small area on the plate is statistically significantly small. In that case the desire to use steel kind of no longer remains an advantage when the lighter weight, better force dissipation qualities of polymer and ceramic can easily cover the statistical amount of rounds any specific individual is likely to take in battle. I don’t know, Just my 2 ¢. And aren’t you worried about sprawling shrapnel? Even with some type of cover on the steel, I’ve seen videos of the shrapnel go in between the steel face and it’s cover and still sprawl outwards upon impact. Steel is just worrying to me as an armor. But to each their own.

[@bhtshq3033]

My thoughts always drift to what is happening behind the plate as well though, you are right the ceramic and polymer have better round containment. The idea is to reduce as much damage behind as possible, sure a Bracial or Femoral wound is not awesome, and you will bleed out very fast unless something can be quickly done about it, but something can do done about it. Your ruptured spleen, liver, heart, punctured lung or transected aorta on the other hand can not be dealt with in anything lower than a Surgical OR with seasoned doctors and surgeons. The more give the plate has, the higher the risk of severe internal injuries. Ceramic and polymer have that extra give and can do alot of damage behind, I hear so many people about the helmets too, wether or not it can stop a .50 is irrelevant when the internal injury is so great that it causes death anyways. Always think about what you can actually fix, versus what your gear can stop. Helmets are meant to stop shrapnel or glancing grazing rounds, a direct hit will always go through a helmet. As for the steel does it stop that round? Does it do so without collapsing a lung? Rupturing your liver, spleen or heart? Without transecting your aorta?. If the aim is to stop the shrapnel from hit your arms or otherwise then just dont wear a carrier in my mind, that's my 2 cents. Always think about where all that energy is going, it's not just about containment, it's about about penitration preventing even more severe injuries.

[@millbean13]

@@bhtshq3033 fair enough. I guess I’ve always just resigned to the fact that if I do catch a round in the chest it’s just going to break whatever’s underneath of where it hit, rib, clavicle, whatever. I’ve too seen the deformation that occurs from larger force-imparting rounds when they hit helmets. Yea it may have stopped it but your gonna be brain dead anyway. I think I’ve heard of a damaged spleen from taking a round wearing poly/ceramic plates but I haven’t yet heard of a ruptured heart/lung/anything under the rib cage. I usually hear that the deformation will likely break the rib but won’t do too much damage to what’s underneath your rib cage. But I don’t know, just cause I haven’t heard of it yet doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. I have noticed one interesting correlation from SF guys that it seems the more elite a soldier gets the smaller the plates they want or the less they rely on the protection it affords. Thought it was kind of interesting of some of them having the mindset that your training and ability is going to be what saves you and not the armor. I guess I’ll just have to do some more research related to deformation damage from poly/ceramic on the major organs. When I first commented I was looking for a paper i had to write a year or so ago related to this topic that had the specific percentage listed on the average amount of rounds taken to the chest during gun battles in Afghanistan but I couldn’t find it. I think the source I used had a section related to deformation so if I find something interesting I’ll comment back again.

[@bhtshq3033]

@@millbean13 oh 100% please do. Look this channel does not make me an expert, personally I think the experts are just willing to keep learning because if they don't, they will stop being experts. Even the teachers must be humble and open to learn or try new ways. Usually the heart or lung is the broken rib perforating or puncturing the organ. Either way it is not awesome to deal with. The steel stops what I'm comfortable dealing with (7.62x51 and below) after that it's honestly better to just take the shot without gear. It's like not covering a major bodily injury because a guy wasn't wearing eyepro, it has to make sense, maybe your plate can stop a heavy round, but that same give that collects that round converts energy on the backside of that carrier into your body, maybe you get away with just broken ribs? But regardless, you will still need surgery to repair that damage, stitches aren't gonna cut it. To make matters worse too? You are out of the fight long term while those ribs heal or you eventually puncture your lung or heart, chances are if you are in an environment where you get clipped like that you are dealing with a higher op tempo anyways, and depending on the situation may not have that time as a luxury to heal like you at minimum should. I have also noted the SF dudes doing that, but they also train hard and are some tough dudes, if it doesnt have the ability to immediately knock them on their face they will keep going. That same mindset that says that shot trough my hip, hand, arm, leg is no big deal was not inherited by becoming SF, it started in places like Ft Moore, Ft Liberty, Coronado and such... where they carried 150lb rucksacks running for multiple miles, that toughness was discovered there when they were trying to get into SF. That's how that one works, if you have more questions of course you could call and ask an SF Recruiter? Or if you know a guy ask one of them. If you need more help or info you can always just email me as well, I know a few guys that could help with the info you are looking for [e-mail]

[@bhtshq3033]

@@millbean13 I'm serious on emailing me btw, I am more than happy to help a guy learn more, or prove me wrong so I can learn more. I don't know what I don't know.

[@optimumperformance]

If you are getting shot that much in the plate then you are in the wrong fight and you are likely getting shot in unprotected areas also.

[@bhtshq3033]

I mean you are more than likely right. But in the off chance I'm lucky I want to be able to get back without the threat of that not stopping the next one, in reality all the way around there is no way of truly knowing what will happen. Dead is dead and alive is alive, ill take alive because I held to what I know to be safe versus the off chance the other is not safe, there isn't enough data for me to make the switch. Show me data from a very real battlefield, and a very real line of duty incident. I'll hold to what I know. The whole idea of a channel like this is to understand and allow forward thinking to prevail, but at the same time inform you on exactly what is and isn't good, based on the experience of the individual. You can't throw money at a problem that good training, and good physical training will fix.

[@optimumperformance]

@@bhtshq3033 there is a reason the military does not use Steel plates

[@optimumperformance]

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[@bhtshq3033]

No offense? But the military is not a good thing to base things off of lol.

[@TinyGoHomes]

My set up is quite different until I get to my weapons. I live in Canada so I don’t keep my weapons in the house.

[@bhtshq3033]

Is there a law about having weapons in the house?

[@TinyGoHomes]

@@bhtshq3033 there unregistered because the laws are too strict

[@TinyGoHomes]

@@bhtshq3033 From now on, people cannot buy, sell, or transfer handguns within Canada, and they cannot bring newly acquired handguns into the country. A national handgun freeze was first announced alongside Bill C-21, the strongest gun control measures in over 40 years, in May 2022.

[@TinyGoHomes]

@@bhtshq3033 if you got a gun you can do whatever you want here and only the police can stop you.

[@darren8900]

I had a similar setup with my belt. The problem I was having was with my pistol light it kept accidentally turning on. Do you have that problem?

[@bhtshq3033]

It really depends, I have mine in a specific holster for that rail and light, so it kinda ties in, if I draw it from time to time my finger rests on that far end of the trigger guard, as it should... and it will activate it for a brief moment.

[@optimumperformance]

Personally I would rather run more rife mags on the plate carrier rather than pistol mags if you are going stack mags

[@bhtshq3033]

I understand that too and I tried that, still have the double pouches as well, but for my applications they were not beneficial enough to justify them. It created too much bulk on the front, and thus the pistol mags prevailed.

[@Pr0m3th3us90]

depending what youre looking to do, if i need to get close to the ground i dont want all that bulk stopping me from skull dragging if i need

[@optimumperformance]

@@Pr0m3th3us90 I agree. But personally if I am going to have extra mags out front I would want them for my primary weapon.

[@Thadopeera]

Awesome.. You just inspired me brother 😎

[@bhtshq3033]

Thanks! I hope to always inspire my guy!

[@lock7852]

Nice setup😊

[@Glrsteve]

Not sure why steel plates are even an option anymore when proven over and over to be inefficient. At that point just rock a chest rig. Decent setup overall.

[@bhtshq3033]

I like them just fine, and the fact that they can take multiple hits if needed is why I continue to use them, again this will be shooter preference

[@PrayingPanda]

@@bhtshq3033 Spall isn't shooters preference

[@bhtshq3033]

Okay, but being able to take another hit or not is?

[@PrayingPanda]

@@bhtshq3033 any NIJ certified plate can take multiple hits. They have to in order to earn their rating (except level 4 technically). Spall coating often fail on the first round and within the first 3.

[@bhtshq3033]

Then I should probably avoid getting shot altogether then. It's still a viable option, so im going to continue to use all my options until I get others.

[@jvan6582]

As a Michigan good old boy what was the plates called again?

[@Pr0m3th3us90]

he mentioned steel plates. personally i run ceramic. Steel can spald when struck, even with anti spald coating, the coating could spald in your face.

[@Pr0m3th3us90]

got some light weight lvl 4 ceramics that can take 4 rounds of 30-06, probably run you just under 200 per plate, or more than 200 if you get the super light weight ones, i got mine from shellback tactical

[@jvan6582]

@@Pr0m3th3us90 I appreciate it thanks

[@bhtshq3033]

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[@davidoftheforest]

lmao

[@davidk4190]

nice set up. Thats alot of money. Good to have in case you need it. God knows I dont want to but will if I must. God Bless

[@frankiesemmel5102]

please drop info for that hydration pouch/backpack thats on the back of the vest

[@jarhead5802]

Its the Eagle Industries Modular Assault Pack, or something like it.

[@jhutch1470]

I run the 3 liter Camelbak pouch setup. It's a little more money, but I love it. The bag also has straps that can compress the water. That pressurizes the tube so I can just quirt it in my mouth. Easy peasy.

[@frankiesemmel5102]

@@jhutch1470 Thankyou sir!

[@christopherwalsh7700]

Who makes your knife?

[@bhtshq3033]

It was just one I got in one of those subscription boxes way back when, decided to add it in see what happens.

[@christopherwalsh7700]

@@bhtshq3033 how do you like it?

[@bhtshq3033]

@@christopherwalsh7700 could be better, but I ditched the knife altogether anyways. I like to switch what I have as far as unnecessary gear every few months or so

[@GrArms]

Someone count the “so on and so forths”

[@bhtshq3033]

297... I can do more next time if you want?

[@albertborgman859]

Plate carrier and battle belt. Yet shrapnel causes most casualties. Where are your mortars?

[@bhtshq3033]

You mean Kevlar padding?

[@bhtshq3033]

I apologize if I may seem naive, but when exactly am I expecting to face explosives? Let alone explosives bad enough to actually really do any damage? This is my backyard... not Afghanistan...

[@bohn11111]

So on and so fourth....over and over and over

[@bhtshq3033]

Is that all you got from it? I have already been given a fix it ticket from SOASFPD, so this stop was unnecessary officer, but im gonna need your name and badge number for my complaint? You mind providing that to me?

[@bhtshq3033]

Also thanks for the view... even haters support the channel even if by accident.

[@MrSwccguy]

Seel blows dixs and knife placement is questionable. Otherwise alright set up. I would lose the dump pouch and practice reindexing. I'd upgrade that chineseium PC with a American made brand

[@bhtshq3033]

Fair points all around, but again... personal preference is going to reign Supreme, I got it pretty figured out I think. Also tbf, I had the same thoughts you did, but then applied both methods to how I reload and how I operate and found this set up to be most conducive. As far as the radio I heartily agree, the TRI seems a much more stable and viable option, if I had to do that again I would swap to the tri for sure, still thinking about it tbh.

[@MrSwccguy]

@@bhtshq3033 a knife that big should go in a bag or if you must have a fixed blade, I'd go with something smaller. Radios are a trip, but research and careful effort can lead you to a good one. I'd still do reindexing, less weight and mitigates noise. Plus be honest, it's more of a stuff it pouch.

[@bhtshq3033]

Absolutely it is! Why not? Mags are expensive and dunnage can be used against you someday, or indicate as to who or what someone is dealing with, police yourself as much as possible. The knife? I just want it, and it stays out of the way, so im keeping it lol

[@evanmccarthy7796]

Welcome to america

[@RAYWRIGHT-uz8nh]

I DON'T KNOW I TEXTED IT TO MR. PRESIDENT BIDEN, CAN U PLEASE SEND ME TEXTING

[@bhtshq3033]

Oh this is gonna be fun...

[@StarrGod696]

Lol, this guy is a bonehead. ;)

[@bhtshq3033]

Do you always pick on kids smaller than you or am I just special?

[@GrArms]

Someone count the “uhms”

[@bhtshq3033]

Ballpark? 2 or 3 thousand.