Plate Carrier Comparison: Ferro FCPCv5 and LBT 6094

[@RollerDelayed]

Also ferro does make quick release adapters for the assault cummerbund , but it's a separate purchase and rarely instock from what I've seen

[@Muddy_Reviews]

You were talking about the design elements that are similar between the Ferro and the LBT 6094. This honestly doesn't surprise me as Ferro got there start making AOR1 replica 6094 plate carriers for Airsofters. I am sure during this period they realized the good, bad, and ugly of the 6094s and took the good into account when going on to make their own designs. Ferro Concepts is one of those success stories that I think is pretty cool over all.

[@mattanderson3067]

the only similarity between the FCPC and the 6094 are that they are both plate carriers.

[@rybaneightsix5085]

I have RMA 1155mc plates in my v5. It did indeed take some finess and thought to get them in. And i had to cleverly trim and taper the edges of my foam backers. I just use 3/8" eva foam. The 1155's definitely push the plate bags to the limit though and if i weren't fairly decent with sewing I'd be concerned about prolonged hard use breaking a thread here and there on the tweave middle section. Also had to cut and relocate the hook panel on the rear plate bag further back on the shoulder strap and trim a couple inches of excess strap to even get near a proper fit. Have the Beez pads on the straps as well. I use an AXL equinox cummerbund and it works pretty well. Now that's its all tailored and set, it's quite nice. But it did take more effort than i think it should for the price.

[@rybaneightsix5085]

5'9 160lb for reference.

[@jerryrichards8172]

I'm 6'2 245 i wear the LBT 6094C fits just right. Takes a 11×14 plate. Don't care much for the stretchy cord adjustments for the cummerbund . Other than that as a citizen i have no reason to get a different one. unless i ever need under my clothes armor. Stripped down with a lose shirt/jacket it would probably work.

[@JNunez1994]

Great video! I just purchased a Ferro 2 days ago and I stumbled across this video today. I like the points you made on it and overall the way you conducted the review. I’m 5.11” at 185lbs and ordered a Medium. I hope it fits perfectly as i just had an issue with a Crye JPC 2.0 and returned it because I ordered a swimmers cut medium and it fit very small as if it were for a middle schooler.

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

The JPC in particular, and Crye in general, fit a little differently from basically everyone else on the market. That said, something like 80% of people can wear a medium according to Qore, and my anecdotal evidence gathering seems to agree. Something to remember, which I'll get into eventually, is that the JPC seems to be deliberately designed to force wearing a smaller plate as part of the very minimalist kit. That said, you may be at the tipping point that, depending on your carrier, that large is a better option.

[@JNunez1994]

@@nicothenodgoblin9117 I also messed up by getting the swimmers cut version which was shortened little over an inch on every side. The Ferro setup gets delivered today and I really hope the medium fits, don’t want to deal with a return.

[@KushedOutBruhhh]

Was curious on the fcpcv5 for plate fitment it says 10x12 1” thick… can this plate carrier accommodate a 1.1” thick RTS Ceramic NIJ 0101.06 Level IV Rifle Protection 10X12 Plate Insert without stretching or causing accelerated wear?

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

Unfortunately I don't have one so I can't test it myself. My 10x12 didn't fit, but I think it's a little thicker than 1.1".

[@Coolrunnings.]

Shoulder pads are HSGI, I run the same ones on my fcpc, they're super comfortable

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

Thanks for letting me know! I do like them, they just happen to be a bit too long for me.

[@jay.d.8906]

The AC3 had a cummerbund adapter when you made this video, you skipped the built in admin pouch as well. SKD runs 15%+ sales quarterly and 20%+ twice a year. Also, the sea cucumer cummerbund in the video was kinda funky as it was not FC or LBT. Still a solid 8/10!

[@dukewebb706]

yup! I was gonna say that but you already did! Cheers

[@Whitehawkvisionfilms]

Can you show a video on the internal pockets, Padding, etc and the thoughts behind the internal designs, please... especially on the 6094

[@brianlai4387]

Very useful video. I was looking for a reviewer that is a similar built to me. Ferro FCPC is not friendly towards smaller to average built users. It's a shame you didn't touch much on the shoulder strap tape mod. It would have been useful for me and others. I know peeps are trying to look for ways to make the shoulder straps smaller without cutting anything.

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

I definitely found the FPC to fit great on my frame. A little disappointing that they're not available in small, but it's hard to get plates in that size anyway. For the shoulders, just overlap the straps until it fits, then fold the extra bits back and tape them in place. Usually two wraps of electrical tape works, especially if it's under a wrap-around shoulder pad. If it's not covered, then athletic tape is non-reflective.

[@jay.d.8906]

5'6 and 135, just need full plates and keep the AC3 cummerbund tight.

[@Muddy_Reviews]

The Large FCPC V5 will take a 10x12 triple curve perfectly. I have a set of triple curve 10x12s and have them in a FCPC V5.

[@RollerDelayed]

Those plate bags are a little tight though I've noticed

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

They are definitely designed to fit a particular set of plates, and fitting other ones is a happy accident.

[@MrVonkliest]

Fact. I’m running ESAPI’s and soft armor backers in mine and getting the backers in there was a chore. I need to just not be poor and get standalones.

[@brandonross1905]

Will the let 6094 take 10x12 plates?

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

So medium will for sure, large almost certainly will, but it may be a little wigglier.

[@Drakkmar13]

Nice CHOAM patch. What is the other one?

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

The other one is the Task Force Grifter patch, which I hand-make with only the finest of cheap materials while drunk on cheap beer. Check it out, help fund me buying more carriers so I can talk about them! goblindynamics.com/products/task-force-grifter-gen-2

[@MrVonkliest]

@@nicothenodgoblin9117 Are you still producing anything man? That link has an empty store.

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

@@MrVonkliest So last fall I moved because finished grad school and started a real job. The state I'm in took several months to get a license, but I'm currently in the process of recreating my LLC, so probably by the end of this month it'll be back up.

[@Five7Delta]

Hey man awsome video. Just got a 6094 i dont have soft armor only level 4 hard plates. I feel obligated to get the backers now. Should i feel werid that i dont have them? Does lbt ssy you dont have to use them? Thanks

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

No, you do not need plate backers if you have standalone plates.

[@Five7Delta]

I couldn't help myself I just ordered level 3A soft plates in shooters cut. My hard plates are SAPI cut. LBT website says 6094 will accept shooter cut too but what are your thoughts on my hard playes being a different cut than my soft plates as backers? Thanks

[@jackmehoff2363]

Why do i, a 3x guy keep watching videos from a guy 1/3 my size.

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

It generally seems like it's easier to get gear that fits bigger people than for smaller people. I try to specifically point out if the problem I have is because I'm a small guy and it's not fitting me, but could work for someone bigger, which is more actual detail than most reviewers. And I try to explain the why's and how's instead of just hinting towards them and how I have an opinion while directly comparing it to other points of reference.

[@jackmehoff2363]

Since youre awake, do you think mil surplus plate carriers are worth it?

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

Depends on your pricing, sizing, and what you're looking for. Generally speaking, standard issue plate carriers, especially ones that have hit the surplus market, are dated, compromise designs. I sorta mention it sideways in the "Plate Carriers as a System" article on Hague Solutions, which will be available once Maid finishes migrating it all to new hardware. Unless you're specifically going for a LARP or an impression, they're generally not the best choice. That said, newer ones are getting better. I've heard good things about the USMC PC, and the Gen 4 IOTV is basically an MBAV with shoulder ears. Also, at least in the US, there's a much wider variety of carrier sizes available than on the civilian market, and if you want soft armor, a filled surplus IOTV is usually cheaper than layering a second chance vest with a plate carrier. They're also pretty durable. A lot depends on your personal circumstances, as usual, and what you're looking for. They're going to be unspecialized, but generally pretty decent. I don't like them personally for a variety of reasons I've mentioned, but as a bigger guy they may work better for you, especially if you can get a screaming hot deal on one.

[@jayteknica1175]

@@jackmehoff2363 The US Army plate carrier I wore in 2010-11 (not the IOTV) sucked. It used buckles on two straps to hold the side plates and no matter how much you cinched them down they would sag after 30 minutes of patrol and grind into your sides/hip bones.

[@MrVonkliest]

Because there is always hope and there’s always the gym good Sir.

[@RottenDK]

How tall are you? Just for reference purposes.

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

5'7"-5'8", weigh about 140-150 pounds.

[@RottenDK]

@@nicothenodgoblin9117 thx.

[@sartainja]

The Ferro appears cheap to me.

[@yurimaguski2558]

No one asked

[@LibertyorDeath1787]

Instead of being an ass and saying no one asked it seems cheap but they are not our perception of quality ferro is made out of a lighter material that does feel cheap but the material is stronger has more thermal dissipation less water retention and lighter as a whole then the old style now i will say im not sure how tough it is as a whole but i do see them being used alot so that may speak for it but then again im not sure right now

[@sartainja]

Free speech. @@yurimaguski2558

[@sartainja]

What exactly is reality? @@LibertyorDeath1787

[@mattkeller2466]

Details on that belt!!?!?!?

[@nicothenodgoblin9117]

Arbor Arms SALT belt, specifically the unpadded version. I have the padded one too, but it didn't do much for comfort and just added bulk so I switched.