Testing the TOKIT Smart Induction Cooker Pro

This is definitely in the top 5 for me! Though there are one or two big deal breakers. Watch the video find out!
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[@peterthomas5571]

I took a hit for the team and created an account to try out the temperature control behaviour. VERY disappointing. All tests were done using a hefty 30cm (12") cast iron frying pan. Not a Lodge, but very similar. The pan died in order to bring you these test results... I tested the Tokit for temperatures below 100⁰C in 10⁰C intervals, with 1.25 litres of water in the pan, giving the hob 10 minutes to reach a stable temperature at each step. I checked the water temperature with a Thermapen thermometer, the kind with a pointy end which you might generally put into meat. I checked the temperature at multiple points around the pan. The result: generally 6⁰C above the target temperature. It was consistent enough that you could probably factor the delta into your setting. You can't set a target temp b/w 80⁰C and 110⁰C. So you can't configure the magical "couple of degrees below boiling". But you can set it to 80⁰C and get something just under 90⁰C. Which is a bed of tiny air bubbles, with none of them swelling and rising off the floor of the pan. For temps above boiling, I jumped straight to a sear temperature of 218⁰C. I used a calibrated Thermapen contact surface temperature probe, one with a flat disk which you place in contact with the surface you're measuring. I hit go, dried a couple of plates and saw smoke rising from the pan MUCH sooner than I expected. I grabbed the Thermapen and the displayed temperature rose quickly to 300⁰C and then went to a max-temp-exceeded state. The pan is now warped, with a real high point in the centre. I bought a new one today. Other observations: The marketing info shows a very linear power gradient against the power setting. I find it very non-linear in the 10 to 15 range. The hot area is only 12cm across.

[@platima]

Hey thanks a mil for creating an account to test it! Pinned this comment! Very interesting re the consistent 6C rise. I wonder if that's to account for people typically using thinner pans that would not retain as much temperature? Shame your pan died :( You should definitely have made a video of this process! The 80-110C thing seems so very strange! I wonder if that's a bug. Hot area being 12cm seems pretty standard - most I've noted in the 10-14cm size, 8-12cm effective. Again, many thanks my kind friend!

[@vernpasfield3892]

Have had the Gen one TOKIT for 2 years in my camper van running it through a 2000 watt inverter and a 200 amp lithium battery, has performed all tasks very well and is not power hungry, paid 140 Ausd direct from TOKIT Australia, thanks for your presentation.

[@platima]

That's awesome to know, thanks for confirming it works so well in that setup!

[@Chamieiniibet]

Is it the "smart" one? Which functions do work without a smartphone, Chinese account and/or WiFi internet?

[@knowname7289]

@@Chamieiniibet works like a "gas" stove dial up hotter dial down colder .I never connected to my phone. first setup tokit asks connect wifi clicked no

[@Chamieiniibet]

​@@knowname7289 I mean, they have a "smart" one with the temp. sensor and a screen and a "dumb" one without either. So if yours is "smart" with the screen, can you set the timer and/or temperature without the phone? If not, I'll go for their cheaper "dumb" version, it's not just cheaper but also comes in some cute pastel colors my wife fancies.

[@Chamieiniibet]

@@knowname7289 so you can't use the menu to set the temperature or timer?

[@adampoll4977]

Good to see a heating area test. So many neglect this as induction is unforgiving with hot-spots. I have Xiaomi induction hob which has a pretty decent area and the the temp sensor (which you can set and program via the app). Great review.

[@platima]

Thanks for the good words and input!

[@karabroadbent570]

The Dune one has wild power fluctuations though. The 300W setting draws 1400W and cycles down to 60W but utilises way more than 300W on average. I returned it. Whilst this one is more expensive, it is more constant, and therefore more efficient if you are running it off a generator etc.

[@platima]

Yeah they all do that to some degree unfortunately, it's inherent to how portable induction cookers work unless you start spending big. The best for it so far was this Tokit though; it's power cycle is much faster, and I'd expect it to run pretty smoothly on a generator too

[@sikgabs9133]

Great video! What size pan would you recommend for optimal cooking? Cheers

[@platima]

Thanks! The pan would probably be proportional to how thick it's base is. I use a 26cm on it nicely without issue, and its base is medium thickness. I've got a 29cm cast iron that goes well too!

[@richardmaher2600]

great real world testing straight forward and honest no bullshit have subscribed keep it up

[@platima]

Cheers mate much appreciated!

[@sandysea-]

Regarding the test for heating area using boiling water, I discovered recently that some cookware for induction does not perform as you would expect. Tefal produces frypans that actually limit the area that heats up so they won't actually reflect the true size of the induction heating area. I have actually tested this with an older wok style which gave me the full surface area and then with a frypan I bought recently which was clearly limited to just 4 inches. Not all induction cookware is created equal!!

[@platima]

Not wrong at all! 1) Tefal pans come out lowest in my tests, I don't buy them any more 2) Woks are usually thin carbon steel 3) I use the same steel pot and amount of water for each of my test I do mention this in the video too when I get to the cast iron :)

[@sandysea-]

@@platima The wok I used was also Tefal and it was far better than the newer frypan. Same manufacturer, similar product, vastly different performance.

[@platima]

I've not tried a Tefal wok, just the frypans. They were pretty damn poor! Good to know at least! Thank you

[@paranoidgenius9164]

I have one of these still in the box, & never used, brand new. I'm still not confident in using an induction hob for the first time, what would have satisfied me, if you would have had a close up camera shot when you were operating the function dial.

[@platima]

Hey just go for it. They're as safe as shit. Actually hard to burn yourself on them! The dial on this one is a tad confusing! Basically press it to engage, long press to on/off, turn side/side to adjust up/down. Without the app, it is basically just a temperature set or on/off. Only takes a few seconds to figure it out, but if you don't mind using apps, that'd likely be even easier!

[@Seraph137]

Thank you for the review/demo. Not sure how well it would work here in the US, different Watt max (1800). I am concerned that it is too thin and might not hold up as a daily cooker. I've tried 3 induction cookers and sent them all back because of the cycle/runaway temp issue. Trying to find one that will keep a stable power and/or temp, otherwise it is useless to me.

[@platima]

Not a problem at all! Looks like they have a US version: www.tokit.com/collections/induction-cooktop/products/tokit-smart-induction-cooker So far had zero issues with it. Bloody strong unit! For me it's now between the Dune, Nationwide Electrical (EOS), and this. This has been my go-to since I got it, but if I'm running 2 at once I'd use the Dune I think. The only reason I'm not using the NE is because it cannot be replaced haha.

[@Seraph137]

I agree with you, stupid to create an account to use a burner. Did you end up having to create an account just to use it? Or is it just required for the app?

[@platima]

Just required for the app. And I think the app would definitely be handy if you're responsible, but if the app encourages idiots to leave the house while they have things cooking, then I'm heavily against it!

[@mesky21]

The temperature sensor in the middle requires the app as it uses temperature setting instead of the power settings on the dial

[@platima]

@@mesky21 Excellent to know, thank you kindly!

[@peterthomas5571]

​@@mesky21Yeah, but they could have put the temperature setting in the physical interface.

[@m015t5]

are you planning to do the Nuwave Precision Induction Cooktop Gold? i've been thinking of buying it but after seeing your vids maybe the dune 4wd might be better idk. i need something thats a good allrounder because i dont have a stove, so it should be able to simmer and sear

[@platima]

Hey mate that's pretty far outside my scope sorry. I do this all at my own cost and make zero dollars from it, so I try to keep it to things I can afford or would actually use. Cheers for the input though.

[@chef-magoo]

if you wouldn’t mind, I heard you mention that you’ve tested several induction Hobbs. I am almost completely blind, and have considered taking the dive into a full on induction range, but thought I’d go with an induction hob first to get used to the learning curve. Is there anyway you can kind of pull from your past experience and recommend what of the induction Hobbs you tried? Do you think would be functional for someone with no eyesight?

[@platima]

Hey there! Thank you for your comment, and that is a very interesting use case. Believe it or not, my previous partner of many years was also legally blind, so I actually have some familiarity with these matters. Do you make use of a mobile device such as a phone or tablet, likely using zoom or screen reader? If so, the Tokit could be good as it has the companion app that shows you status etc. Else I'll aim to look through them this evening to see which one have designs such as raised buttons or audio indications that would best work for a vision impairment. Cheers

[@chef-magoo]

@@platima yes, in fact, I do, almost completely rely on the latest iPhone never far from my side. Truly appreciate you looking into this for me, huge help. Thanks much.

[@platima]

@@chef-magoo In that case, whilst I've not actually tried the app, the screenshots of the Tokit app for this 'smart induction cooker' appear to show the device status and control over the cooking modes. The fact that it has just one button which is a combination dial and button also means you can always locate the control you're after, and in moments of doubt you can always long-press it (from memory) to immediately turn it off. The others have multiple buttons, and not all good indicators, so for the few bucks more I'd say this is the way to go. I actually said that in the video without even considering the accessibility features!

[@chef-magoo]

@@platima thanks so much, your input is greatly appreciated!

[@platima]

@@chef-magoo No worries at all Mr Magoo. I looked over about a dozen, and only the Healthy Choice had raised buttons. I was hoping the Dune at least had some bumps, as it's one of my favs, but no go. The Tokit is at least one of my favourites too, so you're not left with only crap options. Best wishes with all your induction cooking adventures! (cast iron + steak = win)

[@SuzanneWho]

I’ve had an IKEA induction unit for several years. Love it! The whole upper cooking side is glass - no ridges to clean, just wipe the whole thing. It’s big and heavy but I like that it’s so sturdy. It even has a loop built into the top edge so you can hang it out of the way. I use this everyday as my main cooking surface. Unfortunately IKEA has changed it a bit. I haven’t seen it in person so I don’t know what they’ve eliminated or changed. Glad I got the original

[@platima]

Like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXulZGmvbd-cjKs :P

[@SuzanneWho]

@@platima That’s the brand but you have the newer one. I don’t like the changes they made. The one I have has more controls. Glad I bought years ago, would buy another if they went back to previous design. Mine works great.

[@platima]

@@SuzanneWho Ooh damn, good to know. Yeah I was not a fan of how 'chunky' that one was, and how basic it felt. Ikea is basic, I get that, but c'mon! Glad to hear you've got a good one that works for you!

[@SuzanneWho]

@@platima BTW, I like the heftiness of it since I use a Dutch oven frequently.

[@platima]

@@SuzanneWho Very fair!

[@aerzamezame9751]

Wonderful review! I'd like to see you do a review of the soon-to-be on sale Induction Cooking Plate from ALDI special buys on Saturday, June 15th :)

[@platima]

Oooh cheers, I hate that place, but I set a calendar reminder!

[@helmygalindo]

What is that button in the middle of the cooking area for?

[@platima]

I kind of mention this in the video itself, but it turns out to be a direct-contact thermal sensor for high accuracy

[@peterthomas5571]

​@@platima for low accuracy, actually.

[@platima]

@@peterthomas5571 🤣

[@videodude4]

Usually detects presence of cookware.

[@mariar-v7128]

Any chance of a review of the Xiaomi mijia double portable induction hob?

[@platima]

Want to send me one?

[@mariar-v7128]

@@platima lol, I'm looking getting one but it's like $300-$400. Might get two tefals for $80 ea from Myer instead

[@platima]

@@mariar-v7128 Yeah I make zero money from these videos, so that price range pushes it for me a bit. I'm a broke SOB haha. If you're in Australia, I'd get the Dune one from Anaconda. Way better than the Tefal IMHO!

[@mariar-v7128]

@@platima So I bought the TOKIT based on your reviews of the Tefal and the TOKIT (as well as other research). Pretty good. Havent bothered with the app even though I think I already have an account due to having a xiaomi robot vacuum

[@platima]

@@mariar-v7128 Hey really glad to hear! Your robot vacuum been hacked yet? 😅 Not sure it actually shares the same login as the Xiaomi system, but you can try. Enjoy 😁

[@M1n1Mouse]

I interesting test did you do the nuwave pic gold or the westinghouse one I have both of thesep

[@platima]

Thanks! And nah the Nuwave is a bit out of my price range, and the Westinghouse is on my list but yet to get to it

[@tonytony8464]

That's a rebranded Xiaomi Ultra thin induction cooker sold here in asia for less than 100 USD

[@platima]

Oh excellent to know, thank you!

[@CiprianFx59]

It's also 98€ on their website today.

[@plainlake]

I think I will be getting this to keep in my EV.

[@platima]

Good call! What EV you got?

[@petcuyvers]

@@platima Maybe they meant an "RV", then would make more sense lol.

[@platima]

@@petcuyvers Hahuahahah yes that makes WAY more sense. Got it. Was having a smooth brain moment there I think

[@philipwest4553]

if it was $200 then it's a little too expensive.

[@platima]

Yeah I know, but..... it's actually pretty fucking good. The NE and the Dune are 1:1 at the top only because the NE is discontinued, but this has the best PWM/heat control, feet, fan and profile! Aaaand now apparently it's $300 (AUD). Went up 50% in two months since I bought it. Fark

[@Marineboy67]

@@platima I just purchased one $177 (AUD)

[@platima]

@@Marineboy67 Nice one! Enjoy :)

[@patrickstarnes2355]

The video is too long-winded I suggest learn first how it works. Faster with better facts you might get some subscribers.

[@platima]

Love these comments where it's clear that people didn't even watch the video 🤣 It was a perfect work of art 👌 And the intention isn't to get subs, else I'd put out way more content. Peace