INDUCTION COOKING WHEN CAMPING. Is it worth it? One Year Trial Results |

I can finally conclude that induction cooking when camping is great, but only in certain conditions. Here are my conclusions after a year of trails and tests.
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[@JMRobins1]

One of the things with propane that's often overlooked is altitude and temperature. Propane is horrible at high altitudes and low temps. That's probably not a factor in Australia, but up here in Colorado, it's a huge factor. That's why I'm looking at induction for my next setup.

[@4xoverland]

Good point!

[@fratermus5502]

Are you thinking of butane? I've used propane without issue below freezing and at 10k ft.

[@JMRobins1]

@@fratermus5502 No. I'm gonna try for an electric stove I think. I can get propane working below freezing and high altitudes, but it's very weak. With two burners on at the same time, it's useless, especially with wind. We are a family of 5 so we have to cook a fair amount of food. Propane just doesn't turn from a liquid to a gas well at low temps. I've never tried butane, primarily due to all the little cans I'd have to carry.

[@fratermus5502]

@@JMRobins1 Understood. Are you going to run a genny to power it? The Wh math seems daunting.

[@JMRobins1]

@@fratermus5502 No, it will have to be battery powered. I'm gonna run into serious space issues though, so my plan may not come to fruition. The rest of the Jeep will be built first while being conscious about battery space, but I won't compromise anything else for more batteries. If it doesn't work out, I'll stick with propane. It's a long term build I haven't even started yet so I have plenty of time to think it through.

[@InJusticeAustralia]

Wow mate that was by far the best explanation of gas vs elec I’ve ever heard. Thanks heaps for sharing your knowledge! ❤

[@StephenStHill-si7en]

Thanks Andrew. Your review is timely - ahead of my build. I appreciate your consideration of workable alternatives. Welding can also be done without expensive upgrades. In 1998 I travelled over 150km on the Gibb River Rd, WAust, to reach a garage for a welding job. The steering oil reservoir had broken off the bracket on my classic Range Rover. Thanks to Jack Absolom's: Safe Outback Travel, I carried welding rods. With the generousity of a stranger, using their battery and jumper cables, I connected the batteries in series and successfully welded using 24V. The repair remained sound.

[@MrDaanram]

“So I have chosen a hybrid system” - switches to his wife doing all the work 😂😂😂😂 well done on the hybrid system!!

[@stevenweatherall1413]

I seem to remember him and Paul arguing over who was most likely to burn a pan of water when they used to travel together in Africa . So if you have a Gwyn and you are an Andrew you would take advantage of that . 🤣

[@A-Trip-Away]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lost it after reading your comment hahaha

[@axio3d143]

Thanks for taking the time to do a real world review of induction

[@aussiedrifter]

G'day Andrew, really good video mate & you explained the Pro's & Con's of the wide variety of supplying off-grid power thank you. I would love to upgrade to Lithium but for Us it's way above our income, (Which is fixed). So having an Overland truck our best solution that works well for our needs is Twin 250 Amp Alternators (1 x Truck & 1 x House) 2 x 12 Volt 300 AH AGM batteries (600 Amp) & 1000 Watts (1 kw) Solar panels, the Inverter/Charger is a 4500 Watt continuous supply unit & our 10Hp Diesel Gen set also charges the batteries & delivers 6.5 kva. Sometimes I would like a smaller Tourer & possible off-road caravan but when you live out there on the tracks & in the bush full time I still think the bigger rig's are the way to go. Thank's for another great & thought provoking video Mate, Steve.

[@whya2ndaccount]

4:29 Agreed. We use a Jet boil for brews, etc. and induction for "non water boiling/ heating" cooking. It also provides a contingency if there is an issue with the electricity.

[@jerrymyahzcat]

Induction is the fastest way to boil water - period. Due to the induction process actually making the vessel itself heat rather than transferring heat to it there are very little losses in the process. It’s approx twice as fast as gas.

[@whya2ndaccount]

@@jerrymyahzcat I don't think I ever mentioned speed? Its a question of efficiency. You will expend more electricity than gas to generate the same amount of energy to boil a given amount of water.

[@jamesfox653]

Love your stories and experiences shared. I know how much you like to be organised so I thought i would share with you that we store our induction cooker in a laptop computer bag. Fits perfectly and the bag is slightly padded. Keeps the induction cooker clean and safe for the terrors of travel.

[@ricoman7981]

I find all these modern amenities and gadgets absolutely fascinating, money and imagination freely flowing leads to wonderful things. Having said that, my inner primal caveman instincts are more satisfied and my mind more relaxed with a simple pot on a small grill over a wood fire. Getting away from all that soothes the soul.

[@mothergoose3064]

Westinghouse twin induction cooktop retails for about $200. It's brilliant. Most pots and pans these days are induction capable - $25 at Kmart. I do have a Jetboil as a back up but I'd never go back to gas stoves.

[@jerrymyahzcat]

Yes. It’s a 1400W + 1000W unit total 2400W max so a 2kW Inverter isn’t large enough. Need the 3kW to run both plates.

[@mikebarrett5890]

A good bush tv works all the time (assuming no fire bans) 😊 And yes I go electric most of the time.

[@mariofelix3399]

For me induction is excellent if you're trying to cook anything outside with any wind. A very small amount of wind will double or triple the cooking time in a gas stove. That's where I see the real advantage. The rest is about your style of cooking, traveling and above all: budget. I use both gas and induction in my trailer.

[@shoothuntride9456]

I bought an F-150 PowerBoost with a 7.2kW onboard generator. Two 20A and one 30A plug in the bed of the truck. Electricity is not an issue for me:)

[@landcruisertroopytouringan2166]

I use a 1.25kg bottle with a single burner which lasts 8 hrs for cooking….. and I use a jet boil for boiling water. I feel it’s just simple and light. I do month long remote trips and weekend VHC trips Thanks for the video. 👍 Thanks for the video

[@jerrymyahzcat]

I would suggest always a 3kW Inverter with an Induction Cooktop as most of them consume around 2200W. So a 2kW Inverter just won’t cut it. Also even if they consume 1800W there’s no way you can run 2 at the same time even off a 3kW Inverter unless they are each only drawing power while the other isn’t (or only simultaneously for less than about 5sec which is typically the max time a 3kW Inverter can supply up to 6kW). Also your comments about boiling with gas (jet boil etc) - All forms of boiling water EXCEPT Induction waste loads of heat energy. Because an induction unit actually causes the vessel itself to heat (there is no heat transfer, only energy transfer) almost the entire amount of energy consumed goes into the water with a little radiating away from the vessel. With gas or ceramic or any other form of cooking the cooker makes heat and transfers it to the vessel causing loads of waste heat escaping to the environment. Induction boiling of water is faster than any other method by far with negligible waste heat and will always be faster than any gas method. Induction heats approx a twice as fast as gas. I have a 3kW Inverter, a 300Ah Lithium battery and cables rated to 500A between the two. Battery, Inverter, Induction Cooker , 40A DC-DC charger and Cabling all for under $2000. The key with lithium is to know the max continuous discharge current . My 300Ah battery has a max continuous rate of 200A so even though I have a 3kW Inverter, I can’t run it at max. If I had 2x 175Ah batteries with max continuous discharge at 150A each in parallel, that would provide 350Ah capacity and 300A continuous discharge capacity. My setup allows max 2560W max continuous discharge at 12.8V meaning I can easily and safely use any appliance up to 2400W. I chose 1 larger battery rather than 2 smaller ones (which I would have preferred) due to space limitations in my vehicle and also cost. 2 smaller batteries could have provided more capacity and power as well as redundancy (reduced capacity) should one fail. I also always carry a gas stove and propane canisters as a backup and secondary option.

[@GI-AUS]

I once tried to boil the kettle on a shitty Companion on-bottle cooker, at Bay of Fires in Tassie. Windy as f*ck of course, and half an hour later I was still waiting for that kettle to boil. I had all the wind shields you can dream of, still was crap. Love my 2K inverter from Jaycar, I run the induction on 1500W max, boils in 3 mins!

[@Ridick1981]

Just one thing to point out. Victron Multiplus II 12/3000 its not a 3kw inverter. Its a 3000VA which is a max.2400W @ 25 deg.celsius (min.1700W @ 65 deg.celsius)

[@oxidado3894]

Love it! Since a few years ago I started to think that move to Australia could be a good idea, now I came across this video and I'm eager to go :) Cheers from Argentina!

[@bayselec]

Well done Andrew has definitely set me on the right path with inverters and induction cooking.. 👍

[@markelliott6105]

It’s a bit like ice in an esky versus a fridge. And I bet the arguments for one or the other were almost identical too. Nobody would argue against a fridge now and I expect, in time, that will be the case for induction cookers.

[@Mark-oo2ou]

Depends on your setup and if you want functional or cheap, i have a trailer with 3 fixed 160w solar panels, my DCDC 40amp charger, has solar priority, so in transit i run the solar pannels through a dedicated MPPT to get dual charge from both solar and the smart alternator. When I stopped, i plug those fixded pannels back through the 40amp DCDC charger and use the dedicated MPPT wth up to 3 250w booster pannels and a 200w solar blanket. You can also use the car like a generator by running the engine, to do the same dual charging stationary. I haven't had a day that i couldn't charge. I also use gas gor BBQ style cooking, but as a preference.

[@rmuhlack]

Great video. I am looking into fitout options for a sailboat and would love to be able to go completely electric (including propulsion), so that there is no liquid fuel onboard (no smell, and MUCH safer). You made a number of good points that have been helpful in informing (and reinforcing) my planning, particularly re battery storage capacity, charging options, and inverter capacity/quality (I am looking at the Victron Multiplus II 48/3000). And glad to see you reminding folks that this gear needs professional installation !!!

[@ML-ws6ce]

I still use our Coleman Duel Fuel Burner and still love it. Perfect for our conditions at higher elevation and cold temperatures.

[@johnvaneeden1455]

Thanks for sharing. Non-wild camping i.e. where A.C. Is available, the induction cooker is very convenient and fast even to boil water for tea ! Gas still remains the backup option.

[@rpbrear]

Andrew, this was excellent! So so helpful, thank you.

[@MrMaikeul]

This is an awesome analysis. Thank you! Something else to consider: going "full electric" in colder climates makes it for folks with smaller rigs that they don't need to lug around a diesel generator (in addition to the diesel, hoses, etc itself). The trick of the game is really about the speed of recharge (same as in the EV world). Can you replenish your energy banks efficiently enough after having consumed a sizable quantity?

[@ThePyleDriver]

Excellent - I came to exactly the same conclusions and have stuck with gas. I have lithium (100ah) and good Victron chargers but my power is reserved for my Propex (constant winter living) and Starlink/pepwave/laptops for work. All in a JKU micro camper. Ones individual needs really are the determining factor. If I ever have a large overland rig (homemade earth cruiser) then more will be electric.

[@michaelblake4442]

you have a 3KVA inverter which does not output 3 KW, you have to factor in the Pf to get wattage, probably closer to 2.7 KW

[@jasonhowe1697]

na realistically that would be 2.25-2.5 operationally, 2.7-3KVA likely be in reference to start kick load...

[@geoffdixon5934]

Thanks for the informative video. Have just come to the same conclusion. Jet boiler for a quick set up and small heat & eat. But a quick saving tip for you in the morning routine drink making. I like a coffee and the wife has a tea. I make them both on the Nespresso coffee maker. Don't put in a pod and out comes boiling water. It's all about less set up and quick clean up. I have just built a slide on truck camper in NZ for my Ford Ranger. No gas (No gas cert's) and only an invertor (No elect cert's). Just getting my self containment cert so we can freedom camp. Have Redarc DC DC charger (40A), lithium 200Amp, 2000w invertor, solar 530W and induction cook plate.

[@benlyons5884]

I just cant bring myself to switch to induction. I've only got a 200ah system and if im cooking for 3 people, 3 times a day, I feel I'm risking the storage needed for everything that's needed to be run all day or evening.

[@aslkdfjhg]

I bought a 40ah portable lithium battery, it's the size of a lunchbox. If you don't need the high current loads, it runs the fridge, charges the phones and fan in the tent. It's great having so many options nowadays.

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

A single induction cooktop requires a 200A minimum lithium system with at least a 40 / 50A DC to DC charger to work efficiently, a 2400W induction will draw up to 200A from your battery while in use, the batteries you purchase need to have a 200A BMS, or you will overload them, cheap batteries normally have 100A or 150A output limit, Induction cooking is very complicated to have setup so it works safely and efficiently, simply if you don't want to spend a few thousand $ to set it up properly then stick to Gas or open fire, you can set it up for under $1000 but it will not work reliably.

[@KevIsOffGrid]

just a bit of pedantry .... most inverters are sold on "Watts out" however Victron use KVA - which is how much power its pulling from the battery, so your 3000kva inverter (or my 2000kva one) are not 3000w/2000w. My 200KVA tops out about 1700w, my 3000w giandel tops out about 3400w but is a much lower quality bit of kit, however will run 2 high powered items together. Full time living on solar here.

[@Outbackuber]

Great video, thank you Andrew. I have also played with the induction idea in my own setup... I have 200ah Lithium and a 2000W inverter and it works well.. like you mentioned in your video. There seems to be allot of focus on induction cooking with these electric setups, But there is also another part of the story that seems to be missed. I have found that using an electric airfryer is a great way to do meals while camping. I initially built the setup for induction cooking but found that I actually use it more for my airfryer. I also have a 12v TravelBuddy oven and it will be quite interessting to compare these. Using math the Travel buddy will warm 3 meat pies from frozen to ready in 2 hours @ 10A/h so total 20A usage. My 1100W airfryer use about 95A but only for about 15 minutes totalling to about 24A usage. So similar energy usage but reducing cooktime from 2 hours to 15 minutes. Still I carry both.. I use the TravelBuddy when I cook while I drive, but use the airfryer when I want to do a "ovenmeal" while stationary at camp. Will be good hear your thoughts on this too 🙂

[@doradosurfcharters]

See Andrew another reason why the Nissan patrol 4.2 kettle was best car ever built

[@ndafarachaitezvi1139]

Awesome content as always

[@cloudatlasminer478]

Induction vs Burners. Burners will always be better and more efficient outside, but when cooking indoors is needed, then cook tops.

[@matthoskin3572]

Andrew I am VERY surprised you have not installed a desalinator/RO watermaker???!!!. Have you ever considered it - like the RAINMAN unit???? . For my new build I am definitely going to install one - that means I can stay at any spot that has either salt or fresh/brackish water for a long time..... IMHO worth the cost.

[@leandrocacela8962]

Thanks Andrew very informative wish I had the space to fit such a system

[@timmunro3679]

Having redundancy when out in isolation is a good idea for many things (food, water, power, vehicle functionality, safety systems, etc). My preference is electric/induction and having a backup of a small jet burner and both of those take a backseat if there is a fire on. Having solar at home I use induction as well, prefer how it performs (quicker heat up and more repeatable heat control) and reduces the unnecessary use of fossil fuels.

[@legallyfree2955]

I can also charge my batteries using a small Honda generator as I am a lot more prone to stay several nights in the one place than I suspect you are. In fact typical for me is to go somewhere, stay in the once place for a few days then go back home. I do my cooking with an electric hotplate with a camping gas stove as a backup that I basically never use. Only issue for me with that solution is my generator runs on petrol and my vehicle diesel which is somewhat annoying but there is no such thing as far as I know as a compact quiet affordable diesel generator.

[@MarkusReinisch]

Try sous vide cooking. I cooked this way. Inverter can be tiny 500w, cook while you are driving. With this type of cooking you can leave your food for hours in the water. When you stop driving, take a flamethrower and make the tasty crust. This way you need no big inverter. Everything is makeable, you have to adapt your livestyle.

[@svens2678]

Thanks Andrew. Enjoyed the video. Good info to think about. BTW - you have a couple of typos on the CONS list…

[@DidierWolfs]

We have a petrol Coleman double burner. Very convenient and cheap to use

[@art-is-lazy4509]

I'm surprised this channel doesn't have a million subs, when you compare it to the garbage out there. I run both in my troopy through my 3000w inverter and 270AH lithium set up, and twin gas burners, upgraded my alternator to suit, along with all the other mods that doubled the purchase price of the truck and then some. Don't have the flip top though as I need 5 seats, so tent/swag for short trips, camper for intermediate, and van for touring.

[@4xoverland]

I often wonder that too. But I think its because I don't promote brand names. And brand names get the most views.

[@4xoverland]

I think elephants are smarter than deer.

[@peterthompson3492]

Hi Andrew you've come a long way with this lithium technology but one thing you forgot to mention is if you go camping in the winter and it's below zero is Tasmania lithium batteries can be catastrophic damaged so in winter you may have to have a plan b

[@StephenStHill-si7en]

A portable wind generator will run all day and night there.

[@CamperKev]

I agree with all those pros and cons but I don't like cooking with induction at anytime and especially when camping. I like cooking with woks and Induction cooking does not work very well with woks. It's hopeless. Woks are round and need a flame to wrap up the sides of the wok. Induction only puts a hot spot at the bottom of the round wok. It doesn't work correctly. Thanks for another fabulous video.

[@nicholastaylor8154]

I agree with everything you've said, however there is one downside everything is connected to the car. If anything happens to the vehicle you lose the cooking, your bed, I prefer to keep things separate

[@mjcavender1230]

Why not install a diesel cooking stove? Seems like a viable option to me?

[@carltaljaard]

Something I have always wondered, does the steam/smoke/smell etc. of cooking so close to the vehicle (on the tailgate or dropdown table) with the gull-wings or boot open not bother you inside the vehicle? The steam making things wet, smell or even if the oil/water when boiling makes a mess in the vehicle - especially when you are sleeping in the vehicle. Or am I overthinking this? When we overland we tend to take things that can make the inside of the car not so nice to sleep/drive in for many days on end a bit further away from the vehicle for that reason, so I want to know whether it is necessary.

[@mrme982007]

I think in your situation, where you have other needs for the serious power setup you can justify going a bit extra and use an induction cooktop. But you also have cameras to charge, you edit on the road, that power is doing other things. If it were just to power your cooktop and your nespresso machine, then it’s a bit over the top. I can make a good cup of coffee (I’m a latte drinking city slicking yuppie with a full espresso machine at home) with a Mokka pot on a stove and a coffee plunger to froth milk. I love my silly little $30 gas cooker, it works so well that I can’t see any reason to replace it with something better - unless I could justify a mini Weber bbq or something. BUT time is no concern when I’m camping, I don’t have to film, I have zero electricity needs (I’m in New Zealand so a fridge just isn’t necessary) so I’d never put in anything more than a secondary battery in the engine bay, which right now is still over kill. But where you have the need for an elaborate set up then yeah why not? It’s just not for everyone. Just because something is right for someone doesn’t make it right for someone else

[@jimmyfarnell7076]

Great video, I run induction and an airfryer, still use the jet boil for coffees but, and love it. I'm running a twin induction Westinghouse plate but the bloody thing always stops and says the plate is overheating. Just wanting to know what induction plate you use? Cheers

[@davidlovell4390]

When Gwen said yes to electric , that was good enough for me.

[@donaldheine6243]

Most places I camp have electricity available. It's worth it to me to pay the extra $10 or so for a campsite with electricity. I do camp in fairly cold weather sometimes. I do have a power station with a lithium iron phosphate battery and a solar panel. I have 12 volt portable fridge know. So an induction cook top makes sense. Sometimes areas are dry from lack of rain and we can't have open flame. We tent camp. Some places you can't collwct firewood, and can't transport firewood from other places. And firewood can be expensive in places like this. I guess it all depends on the situation. For me I can see having one induction cook stove with in adition to what I already have. I usually have more than one means of cooking available when I camp. Two is one, and one is none. What if the campground your going to the electricity went out before, or after you got there? I like to have redundancy for everything.

[@4xoverland]

Most camping I do is wild. Even in a campsite where there is AC available, I do not connect because I just do not need to. This rig is designed to be self-sufficient.

[@duncanwallace7760]

One additional factor could be whether you are at powered sites much, but I guess that's not really overlanding if you are going to campsites with electricity.

[@4xoverland]

I'd far rather be at home that at a powered campsite. I just do not see the point.

[@duncanwallace7760]

@@4xoverland Haha, fair point. I'm thinking Sanparks where you often have powered sites available. I actually bought a cheap electric hotplate to use in those situations, but its annoying because you have to let it cool down, whereas induction could be a better option.

[@ntahater]

What about the Partners two burner propane stove you had in an earlier Troopy? I use an old Coleman 413 and am happy.

[@4xoverland]

I still have it.

[@SN-jh3bb]

My 360amp hour 4wd setup (includes common starting battery)the other 3 are deep cycle, 4 years later I have say 300amp total left say and I take the deep cycles down to 40%, starter to 80%. Battery cost was just cents more than 2 dollars an amp hour,. We use unleaded for cooking and it sips fuel. Spending 15 or so dollars per amp hour on battery's alone for much same result boggles my mind..even if I only got 2.5 years out of my battery's before replacement. After I did all the sums I just couldn't go flash for any rational reason I could find.

[@wilcovanamersfoort6744]

Hi mate, interesting video. We are cooking at home on induction for over 10 years now and love it. Not going back to gas. Are you able to tell me how much amps you are using if you would use the inducing for everything? For coffee, tea and dinner?

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

Easy, look at the Wattage of the cooktop or coffee machine and divide it by 12, eg 2400W cooktop / 12V = 200A, 1600W coffee machine / 12V = 133A, batteries have a Watt hour rating, eg a 2000 Watt hour capacity battery will supply 2000W for one hour before is depleted, so running a 2400W cooktop you will have 50 minutes of cooking time running the cooktop at max power, which you never do with induction as you would just burn everything.

[@georgesbackyardgym]

Scare mongering.DC power to the inverter so tell me how dangerous is it. Your running household inverter. Why wouldn't you use a standard 3000w inverter with to 240v outlets ?

[@ekhaat]

Camping I use a Trangia Cooking System with either gas or alcohol, mostly gas, it's not affected by wind. But I don't have a camper, just a car and a tent, so....

[@garywinkworth3380]

so induction cookers use alot of energy.?? speaking from a house hold point of veiw they are getting rid of power stations so wheres the power going to come from? we have an endless supply of gas. I really dont understand. But i preferr gas.

[@itereinderhoolsema6145]

Could a DC induction cooker perhaps negate the requirement for an inverter and solve at least in-part the expense and safety that you were talking about?

[@peterstewart3563]

The problem is that the power usage of the cook top would require massive DC cabling to the cooktop to avoid power loss. AC, being higher voltage does not require the huge cables to carry the same amount of power. Nobody makes a DC inverter.

[@johndyer3743]

Would you use a electric kettle

[@4xoverland]

We could if we wanted to. But they feel a bit soul-less. I like camp kettles on a fire or even on gas.

[@craigtomkinson2837]

Lovely

[@darrennorth7987]

Hybrid seems the best of both worlds to me. Also each other can be a back up if the other fails.

[@dominicevans7430]

Hey mate just wondering what the power consumption is for a simmer? Say if you are cooking something for a few hours ?

[@legallyfree2955]

It will depends on what your simmering and the hotplate you are using but mine will drop down to around about 150w on low, but I doubt that would keep a medium sized pot simmering.

[@charliestreeservice6563]

Worth mentioning that a lithium battery bank once set up cannot be added to later, due to the various ages of the batteries. Everything else in the electric system can be changed out and added to later but you would need to replace the whole battery bank if you wanted more amp hours in your system.

[@douger1517]

This is not quite correct. We have lithium and added another battery 12months later. Nil issue at all. Done by a specialist and quality inverter is the key. This has been done various times.

[@charliestreeservice6563]

Interesting, so the chemical ageing of individual batteries isn’t an issue then ?

[@douger1517]

@@charliestreeservice6563 no so long as each battery has its own BMS and a inverter that manages them.

[@4xoverland]

That is not correct. In such a case, the internal BMS take care of that. Besides, after 10 years of use, a high quality LifeP04 battery should still be working at 90% capacity.

[@douger1517]

@@4xoverland what I have stated is correct and has been demonstrated by my setup a new battery added to the system 14 months later with no other changes apart from larger capacity.

[@veneratedmortal4369]

there are 2 problems that are preventing renewables from being the future. energy density, batteries are very big and heavy compared to liquid fuels as far as energy density. secondly, renewable also has no base load so it's not practical. we are trying to force it at the moment in the hope that a solution will be made. until that's solved I can't see it being the future unless the government artificially regulates it (what they are doing, sucks to be poor). even if renewables were a better option that should reduce the need for fuel and supply and demand, the cost of petrol will reduce making the viability closely balanced to renewables.

[@wodgesad]

Why does noone talk about induction with a Norma leisure battery and a small petrol generator

[@4xoverland]

Petrol generator! Never! They are a curse on the earth. Might as well stay at home.

[@davidmilledge221]

Yer I'm keeping my caravan on deep circle batteries and keeping the gas cheaper at moment to run the expense to go lithium is way out off budget just to save some weight , also the same applies to my car set up for camping

[@deepfriedmeatpie]

Thank you for the comments on the 240v side, I’m a marine electrician in aus and so often I hear the comment it’s only 3 wires how hard is it, or I’m not paying you to do it😮, it is only 3 wires but so many people turn there cars/boats into total death traps

[@_bodgie]

I''ve got induction at home and have had gas previously. Induction is better today IMHO.

[@downieoffroad8278]

Best haircut you ever had 👌👍

[@brissiAU]

Are the 3 kw victron inverters rated at a continuous 3kw and short time boost to 4kw?

[@philhealey4443]

Hunt out the technical specifications. I have the 24V version and the manual's data does mention peak power of 5,500 W, but doesn't give a time allowance. Continuous output is reduced at high ambient temperatures, with 3,000VA at 25 degrees C, but apparently only 2,400W. 40 deg C ambient gives 2,200 W and 65 deg is 1,700W. So a hot vehicle interior would impact rating seriously and you should not attempt to power a 3kW kettle. You can however synchronise multiple power supplies, so you could connect a small generator or second cheap inverter for short duration heavy loads and there is a dedicated automatically switchable output you could allocate to high power mode. I fully agree with the point on earth leakage as there could be limited ability for assured overcurrent fault clearance in a circuit breaker. Thinking now, I should also consider arc fault detection protection to avoid fire risk in case of AC side wiring damage and a short circuit fault.

[@michaeldilkes9433]

Do you have any Patches for hoodlining?

[@4xoverland]

yes. 4xoverland.com

[@korsion]

induction cooking is fine when you have 2 x 200amp batteries, I will stick with my jetboil.

[@jonmaguire4407]

How does a diesel cooktop compare to induction cooktop? Would love to hear your considerations.

[@discoveringwa2204]

Excellent episode. Totally agree with everything you said. We, my wife and I use induction as I like my cappuccino in the mornings, Pod machines are king. I did go a different route with my 200 as like yourself I have half a clue. What I did do was a lot of research and went with all Renogy gear, charger, battery and 3kw inverter. All very neat in front and beside my fridge on a Clearview drop slide. This made it very affordable as Renogy equipment is 1/3 of the price of the big brand names. Very heavy and solid components and have so far not let me down. If I was on a tighter budget the old Primus cooker with the pressure pack gas canisters would have sufficed, but then I would not have been able to start the day properly with a cappuccino. Anyway, my wife loves your new Mohawk hairstyle. Happy camping.

[@paulfisher1160]

So how did you earth a car for AC??

[@4xoverland]

the car's metal body becomes the 'earth'.

[@jeremiahcurry4875]

The other factor is how cold it is. You lose a lot of battery capacity in the cold

[@livingworkingoutsidebox]

I like the "idea" of induction cooking. My mind finds it hard to make the switch. Here's why. When I go camping it's to get out in nature, unwind, slow down, etc. The act of building a fire when allowed is an incredible tool to disconnect from the hustle and bustle. Even the act of setting up a gas stove with a wind screen can in itself be therapeutic. Yes many times one is tired and hungry from a long day of driving and you just want to hurry up to sit and relax with a belly full. My mind also looks at it like if you are using electric why not just nuke your food. Wouldn't a microwave have the ability to cook the food faster and theoretically use less sustained energy? Just a high burst for a minute or two? (I don't know just how my mind associates it.) Non the less I guess I associate gas and open fire 🔥 cooking 🍳 while camping / overlanding a integral part of the whole experience. Unless like you said if one is in pure travel mode and the driving is the experience and there's just no hotel to sleep at. Again it's just how I view camping in my mind. There really is no wrong way or right way.

[@Kurtis11266]

So many typos in this video my bain is starting to hurt..

[@pma8854]

I will never have an induction cooker in my car, in fact I don't have any type of cooker, but I've seen the whole video! And I don't understand half of what you say

[@ferytm]

ASW, are you saying that’s okay to spend $7500 (excluding labour cost) to fry an egg? Where is the green pro Planet Earth in this? As a Proof of Concept, this is interesting at best. However, for everybody else your US made gas burner you were soo pound of (only 2 years ago) is more than fine!

[@4xoverland]

I didn't say that at all. I presented by findings for you to choose what's best for you. I love my gas burner. And then I tried induction. I've spent the money and will be staying induction. This takes nothing at all away from gas. You chose what's best for you. Not what's best for me.

[@Rays4Days]

Induction is not for beginners or corner cutters. Once set up it's easy-to-use but getting there requires a lot of $ and expertise

[@malcolmstagg3950]

Can we have more episodes with your wife in, she is great

[@4xoverland]

She is coming to Africa and UAE with me this week.

[@darcyhammet5013]

Are there any Clean Energy Council Accredited installers watching this looking at the panels installed hanging over the ridge? I guess the installer mustn't have any regard for the manufactures warranty. Surely the system wouldn't be eligible for STC's

[@4xoverland]

What? There are no solar panels shown in this video.

[@darcyhammet5013]

@@4xoverland 1:30

[@4xoverland]

Right. Well, the installer is an accredited solar installer. But thanks for finding fault where there is none.

[@raymondlogister6828]

induction cooking is to expensive. On gas much cheaper. And we in north - west Europe , we have not so much sun like you in Australia.

[@holgermuller2987]

Hi Andrew I have a thing for you to look into it. Victron multi inverter 12/3000/80 is ba beast of equipment Large size and very heavy As a German I am watching also German YT channels. Guess what, there is a German company bringing a 3000 Watt multi on the market 1/2 the size and with 7.5 kg 1/2 the weight. Not only that also talking about permanent delivery and not stepping down. Sure not in Australia sold… unfortunately. Would be very interesting to test and see if any good for Australian market. Heiner could check that out. Just suggesting. Cheers 😊

[@wrxs1781]

Buy a small propane inverter generator, and problem solved.

[@barmynick5027]

Your argument re gas v electricity has so many holes in it you cud strain the paste! Induction cooking set ups are for those with more money than common-sense.IMO But i did enjoy the video even if iwas laughing at your comparison.

[@JohnSmith-oh9iv]

Move the slider to 22:13 and save yourself 22 minutes of bla-bla.

[@SiCrewe]

"Renewables"? I wasn't aware the Lithium, Cobalt, Manganese and Graphite used to build Li-ion batteries were renewable. If you want to have a discussion about electric cooking in practical terms, great; it's expensive and complex to set up but then it's convenient to use. When you try to leverage the "environmental" aspect, however, you're going down the same rabbit-hole of BS that the electric car industry is.

[@LeonieHall-c4o]

have to tell you, the only time I have used an induction cook top my medical titanium implants vibrated in concert. Yes very funny, unless it's you. Deeply unfunny. I can only use those things at full arms length.

[@-WondersofCreation]

Become a Hybrid Glamper Andrew

[@matthoskin3572]

love your channel, but boy do you take forever to come to a conclusion!!!

[@4xoverland]

Not forever. Conclusions need context. The first 12 mins did that. Then the conclusion. Without the context, the conclusion is worthless.

[@JU0860.]

My conclusion: use gas in a gasbottle/-tank (not cartridge). Why: simple and proven system, less cost (±1/4 per kWh), less weitht (±1/2 per kWh). Less is more ! 😇When efuel will be available (fule made with solarpower) ecobalance (produktion, use, disposal) is far better than lithium based energie. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouarzazate_Solar_Power_Station

[@OvidiuHretcanu]

can we take a moment to appreciate them rationalizing this for us, instead of just enjoying this trip?

[@karl4834]

nailed it.

[@tacoma.roamer]

@@karl4834 😆

[@operation4wheelz]

For a long time I used my grandfathers old companion gas cooker. About 12 months ago I purchased a new Coleman gas cooker and wow. I wasn’t sure how much gas it would use, so I only got a little 2kg bottle with it and started counting the days use. I’ve actually now lost count, despite several massive trips, including 4 weeks on the road going to Cape York, I’m still on the original fill. New gas cookers have also come a long way in terms of efficiency.

[@karl4834]

You are spot on, heaps of stored energy in a gas bottle. And as for the wind, using a wind block of some description is a heaps cheaper solution that the several thousand dollar method ASPW waffles about. The only good thing about his 25 minute video to say what could be explained in 5 minutes is that it helps me get off to sleep.

[@veneratedmortal4369]

I think the gas burns the holes bigger in old gas cookers. your grandfather's one was probably hard to turn down also. my old bbq has 1 setting, max.

[@Easycass]

My wife an I did a 3 year trip around Oz, finished in 2018. We had 2 x 2kg gas bottles. We cooked every day on a 3-burner stove, usually using 2 burners, one at high output (stir-frying), one at low (simmering). We averaged 6 weeks use for each bottle, which meant that at anytime one bottle ran out, we had six weeks to refill the empty one. Our current 4x4 we are building, we will do the same, but also have a lightweight induction stove for windy days or quick snacks...

[@ralphvanthoff]

Want to save energy? Put a lid on that water boiler, electric OR gas. Period.