Plato, Ion | "Speaking Well" and Knowledge | Philosophy Core Concepts

[@chrismanchola3460]

Your videos are so useful, even though english is no my native language you make philosophy easier to understand. Thank you so much, you made learning English worth it.

[@GregoryBSadler]

Glad you find them helpful

[@GregoryBSadler]

new Core Concept video. . . this time looking at what Socrates is getting at with this talk about "speaking well" about subjects

[@MrMarktrumble]

thank you. Perhaps we are ignorant of anything that we are not experts in, and to habitually transfer competence in one domain into another is arrogance, conscious or not. Or perhaps there are no separate matters of disciplined studies, but each discipline is an abstraction of the matter, and two possible abstractions are possible. The human body can be seen from an ethical or physics-cal , or even economical framework. To give exclusive primacy to any one framework is to exclude knowledge that another domain may have.

[@GregoryBSadler]

It's more the latter -- different "knowledges" involve different ways of looking at matters. And, there are clearly overlaps between areas of knowledge -- something Plato is having Socrates rule out here, perhaps not really committing himself to that though

[@ZiemniakZKosmosu]

This video really help me understand ''Ion'' deeper. Before watching it I have only vague ideas about something going here wrong. Thank you dr Sadler!

[@GregoryBSadler]

You're very welcome

[@Kwintessential2]

Looking forward to this video.

[@joshuajackson530]

I just read Ion. I’m not sure how much attention it gets academic wise, but I think it is very interesting and goes over interesting concepts.

[@GregoryBSadler]

It gets some, but not a lot. Often an easy into to Plato, since it's so short - but it's not really a good one, I think

[@TannerCLynn]

@@GregoryBSadlerI agree. Besides Lysis, I think this is the weakest one I’ve read of the 8 I have read.

[@GregoryBSadler]

@@TannerCLynn You wouldn''t see me calling any of Plato's dialogues "weak"

[@luszczi]

Socrates: So, Ion, there is no greater rhapsode than you in all of Greece? Ion: That's the one thing I'll never deny! Socrates: And rhapsody, do you recon, is it an art just like poetry or medicine? Ion: Of course! Socrates: And having mastery of an art is the same as being knowledgeable in it? Ion: Sure thing! Socrates: And good judgement about an art is a judgement done with knowledge of that art? Ion: That's right! Socrates: So these Epidaurians who judged you worthy of the first prize in the contest for rhapsodes, they must be your match in the art of rhapsody, each and every one of them? Ion: Certainl... wait, what!?

[@goldboolean6819]

You're a polymath Dr. Sadler

[@GregoryBSadler]

A bit of one perhaps

[@JamesParus]

These shorter videos are great. I just dont have the patience to watch anything over 15 min.