"Play More" Isn't Always The Answer

[@vertoHUN]

"you want to be born to click circles on an anime weeb game" "yes"

[@hfig9286]

cookiezi was born to click circles

[@tamuwu]

@@hfig9286 That means that he's dead. According to what's going on with his relationship with osu! atm.

[@hfig9286]

@@tamuwu no it means he was born to click circles

[@fasihh6027]

LGDaniel he is god what are you talking about? He is immortal

[@deathstark2180]

@@hfig9286 Veri Nize

[@lusti3630]

"Hello everyone im new to osu, but how do i get good quickly so i can play 10* maps? Ive been playing for 3 days."

[@Bepsip_Kanyu]

"play more." "PLAY MORE?!?!? HELL NO I WANT TO PLAY IT NOW! I HAVE BEEN SEEING THOSE WORDS SO MANY TIMES. IM SICK OF IT. WOW UR SO GOOD I WISH I WAS BORN AS TALENTED AS YOU," "chill man wtf"

[@voxxel8118]

u can play them. Just put on no fail and if you wanna get good just put on auto

[@pax2114]

Buy the gaiming chair whitecat has

[@itteioetiotr]

sorry for bad english

[@ten-dimension9390]

If it's joke then it's okay but if you are serious then well pay not much mind to me i am a bad player but i am playing from 2 years (my playtime is 300 hours) so i will say by my experience. Again it's only me and according to me it will take At least 4 years to just be able to play 10*. By the way it's different for everyone. Everyone grows at different rate.

[@Klaark]

"Play smart." What if I'm stupid?

[@puffonxe]

*and that's where genetics come in* jk just frickin follow the video

[@puffonxe]

@Muhd Rushaidy h

[@vanillakeksik]

Play more

[@InfiniteFox]

I've noticed that when I take a 2 day break after playing for a week for a couple of hours each day I come back with a lot more energy and I improve much faster. Play Smart is pretty good

[@mortimermouse3086]

play less

[@SoonVirus]

How do you not lost all your improvement you made during these days because of this break ? I'm looking for an answer because the fact that i lose all i learned when i do a break is one of my biggest problem so if you have tips it will be welcomed :)

[@mercamia]

@@SoonVirus you see, if you take a break for like 2-5 days, you won't lose any of your skill, if you start playing again after those breaks, you probably only need to warmup a bit then you can play comfortably like before. If you take a break for 2-3 weeks and you came back, you probably need a few days to regain your peak performance.

[@shtreberka3642]

@@SoonVirus you just have to warm up, I used to think like you

[@fredtrentini6791]

​@@SoonVirus You don't really "lose skill" for taking a break at all, It's completely normal to play worse than you were doing a few days ago, specially on first maps of the day because you're not warmed up, after all we have highs and lows. I believe you are too wooried about losing skill over breaks and should just chill and take your time when feeling like taking a break. If you want real cases of players in order to believe it, here you go: - Poon didn't play for one month (probably just chilling and not in the mood to play) and got his first 700 right after he came back. - Cookiezi didn't play this game for 2 YEARS (2013-2015) and was still on shape when he came back, he simply kept improving from where he stopped as if there was no break.

[@tamuwu]

This is SO TRUE. I made a decision that I wanted improve my stamina and precision. I carefully picked maps that would almost exceed my stamina and precision limit, and after two or three days of playing and practicing, I got a new topplay. And that is really surprising, because I HAVEN'T GOT A TOP PLAY IN A YEAR. To be honest, I was one of those people who had the *genetics* thoughts. But now, I believe that I can accomplish so much more. Also, thank you for making this video Spazza17, it helps spread the message. Don't just play more, play smart. At least that's how I see it.

[@raynei]

no top play for a year? thats gotta be painful

[@tamuwu]

@@raynei I'm surprised I'm still playing lol

[@kirby6548]

This is actually so true. I had a very bad start, so I developed a lot of bad habits. Basically hitting notes to early, reading issues etc. But after I got adviced to play AR 8 it really helped me fight those bad habits and improving.

[@overdosed5317]

I have a neuromuscular disease (makes my nerves and muscles very weak, sometimes randomly twitching and getting muscle strains/cramps very often) and at first i played osu as a way to "cure" this. I started playing taiko with no hopes of getting good because i thought i didnt have the ability. Over the time i started realizing that playing for fun and taking a smart approach to improving at the same time was still possible despite my illness. if i put enough effort. Later i got to a 1,3k rank in taiko. I couldnt believe it happened and i really wanted to give up many, many times and i was becoming very desperate by each month. So dont give up, just play for fun and play smart. You can do it! ( edit: i recently switched to mania and its going well there too)

[@Superstylerlegit]

inspiration for me to lose weight and never give up !!

[@johnny1846]

Some tip in sort new comment: Tip 1. Stop farming sotarks 0:30 or 1:28 maps. Tip 2. Start farming tech maps. Tip 3. Don't farm maps that you can't finish to atleast 93% Accuracy (Unless you want a C or B in your top plays.) Tip 4. (optional) leave the game for months and go back to derust then repeat. (sounds dumb but it helps.)

[@xasuma]

I'm gonna start linking this video when I get that question

[@MichaelEhrmantraut12]

The reason play more is the best advice you can give someone is because you incentivise more experimentation on their part. And the reason that's so important is that everyone has their own way of enjoying and or improving at the game. So when that player finally finds their way of playing the game they'll never have to ask anyone for help again. Empathy is underrated.

[@unklekirk]

Actually a really insightful video! Thanks man, this makes a lot of sense

[@versutus2699]

People that ask for *general tips* on improvement always grind my gears and people ask about this in everything, not just osu or video games. You said it best in that working on weaknesses and working smart is important for improvement

[@pepsidog0]

more please thank

[@jeffreyzhuang2396]

This guy's voice reminds me of that one flash game called, "Escaping the Complex". I forget if it's escape or escaping, but I think you guys know

[@darkendercore3778]

Per tutto il video ho fissato la madonna sulla mensola nello sfondo

[@choojunwyng8028]

i thought this was a new verto video, left my youtube on autoplay and didn't see the video

[@Bepsip_Kanyu]

playing hitorigoto improved my jumps

[@hiiragii]

playing monochrome butterfly made me master jumps

[@cingkole7893]

This Video can apply to almost every competitive video game. Or any other skill in real life.

[@chaosfr3959]

I wanted to do a post on Reddit about my progression because I wanted some advices or tips, and someone told me I should play between 100 and 200 hours a month. But when I check profiles randomly in the 4 digits, most people play around 200-250 hours a year. Like me. And of course, no one told me anything I asked for, like tips or advices. I said I got 200 hours playtime now, and almost 1 year since I started, and that it was my very first rhythm game, so I wanted to have a check, on if it was ok or not. This community is so toxic towards people that have "not enough" playtime that's insane.

[@xia3088]

great video man funny and informative

[@psychogirly910]

I’ve been playing for two and a half years and I am quite the deranker as I am still a 6 digit. For a few months I was obsessed with pp, and frustrated that everyone is playing dthd to farm, when I don’t like it, but I had a hard time farming with any other mod. It got me so mad that I nearly stopped playing, but then I thought I was just being stupid, to the point where I had forgotten one of my favourite players’ request: “plz enjoy game”. Today I don’t care about pp, I am probably one of the strongest 6 digits in the world as I can clear several 8 star maps and fc 6 stars XD and I enjoy the game :) great video !

[@Airuz1]

so you are frustrated at people who use a mod you dont like, what the hell

[@taikoto8199]

Farm maps don't count and plenty of 6 digits have 8 star passes. You're not special.

[@psychogirly910]

Airuz no not really ^^ I like all mods (yes even flashlight XD), I’m just sad to see that today literally everyone in the top 100 plays the same 10 maps and don’t work on any other skill that’s all. People like Micca or FGsky shouldn’t be ranked above people like Idke or Bubbleman 🙃

[@psychogirly910]

Weeb Juggler well, I’m a 6 digit who can take down no problem pretty much anyone ranked up to 35k in multi and I’m happy with that 😂

[@psychogirly910]

Weeb Juggler But I mean, if you still think I suck, they added the “clear 9 star map” medal recently so I could try going for that ^^ I can nearly clear the first 9 star diff of Altar, though that wouldn’t get me the medal since it’s loved 😂 I need to find a ranked 9 star map I could work on

[@-poon-382]

Genetic and Talents is nothing without practice tbh

[@f4lleng0dz]

Thanks for your tips osu pros, you inspired me back to play game in a correct way. I found out the reason of burnt out in one game.

[@tlocto]

I don’t really have a lot of time to play(like maybe 5 hours a week?), so I like improving a lot then farming. Recently I’ve switched to farming after improving so much I got two new star pass badges, and fcing old hard maps is more about consistency than aim or tapping.

[@LunaDaBintu]

This is why I prefer the statement “keep playing”

[@BigDBrian]

that's still bad advice for the 8hrs a day person

[@LunaDaBintu]

@@BigDBrian Keep playing is an advice that doesn't imply you aren't playing enough in the present. the 8 hours a day person likely needs to play less, but this is a better advice than play more(which leads the 8 hour a day person to a 10, then 12 hours a day person)

[@acborgia1344]

Play More is actually the answer most of the time, each time there's one of these "I play 8 hours a day" dude I check their profile and... Surprise, they don't, they have less than 3k playcount during the month usually, and it's very likely it's not only 5 min maps without retrying, so it's probably only around 3 or 4 hours of pure gameplay a day Also "focusing on your weaknesses" is something every player says, but I really felt way more improvement by focusing on my strength because the rest of the skillset follows I think that each player has their own optimal way to improve and they need to discover it, if they want to play 30 sec maps HDDT with 85% acc and they manage to get 4 digit this way, so be it, they actually got pretty good at what they do to get there, and there are quite a few players in the top 1000 with shit accuracy to be honest Playing more is this one constant that will never change, you get better by practicing and there's no way around it, only better practice

[@fasihh6027]

I pretty much share this mentality. Many people who see people with like HDDT harumachi clover 400pp or somethin, they call that (let's suppose) 4 digit a gay farmer and whatnot. In reality the guy who is calling that 4 digit gay farmer prolly can't even fc that nomod or whatever. This is obviously not always true but it's one scenario i imagined. This makes me believe that you can actually get good anyway in the game as long as you are dedicated to it and are having fun.

[@KanaMedia101]

4 hours daily is plenty

[@עומרטולדנו-ז4ה]

@@KanaMedia101 everything is relative my guy

[@johnny1846]

Play less is better

[@hyggsy]

man I played setting sail, coming home today

[@KRUN888]

I've been playing 3 years so about 9-10 days worth of hours and I've been stuck on 6 digit. I can stream 200bpm pretty consistently. I like to play really hard maps and hate farm maps because they make me infuriated on the game. So mostly I've been trying to get better at streaming and beating maps like yomi Yori HR

[@Superstylerlegit]

3 years and 9 to 10 days? you are slacking , im on 40 days and 2 years and a half

[@stayfunsteven2207]

Spazza: 'enjoy yourself' 50% of OSU players: *opens the nsfw hentai skin*

[@wyvern4467]

This video isn't for osu players only. It's for *literally* every player that uses his skills to play games.

[@M4TTYN]

Mapping, playing, skinning osu! thank the mappers!

[@yucapon]

play more

[@wowwow-xp9sk]

Great video as always👍

[@chuggington4791]

the osu!anonymous bot definitely inspired half of these sentences

[@Riczek_]

I wish Miles_Naismith ever improves

[@anhedxnia]

Everyone does, he needs to hit 3digit till the end of this year

[@milesnaismith6478]

I also wish i could improve. It ain't that easy though

[@Riczek_]

@@milesnaismith6478 Kochamy cię Miles

[@Matzzxd]

Who?

[@touhouslvt]

MilesW

[@dery-.-7562]

btw a 300pp is a 6.5* FC

[@DJ_Dodatkowy_Chromosom]

Hidamari no uta

[@stupidnameever3648]

music from getting over it, ah, yes

[@malvononosu727]

just play whatever you like man

[@reqsend3662]

How many hours do you want to play each day? Me: YeS

[@hiperion_1416]

how to get better. Just play better.

[@nootics]

Cries in RSI after 2 months

[@ZaylaaZiaa]

people really need to think more about the process of "getting better", its really annoying when people keeps asking me how but doesnt want any effort in doing so, its one of the reasons most of my friends keep quitting before they can even properly play and fc 4*, they just keep playing once and play 5-6*, get a bad score, thinks that they are just bad and not suited to this game, quit, and repeat

[@Ypaper]

Lmao literally just farmed on Setting Sail, Coming Home :D

[@Richard-W0]

Practice doesnt make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

[@TURTLELE]

How do I stream over 222bpm?

[@nemesys9904]

play less

[@M4TTYN]

to some that actually might help

[@johnny1846]

@@M4TTYN it helps alot too. look at the top players, they literally take months of break on the game and they come back as aliens

[@kennzohomme]

POG

[@Lemonighter]

How to alternate? *Alternate More*

[@TCLOAO]

i got a question im a rank 583k player thats gotten a 72 pp play off of a pp farm map i know disgusting, but anyways back ot my question i really like playing very fats and log maps but there all just slightly over my skill lvl there 4,5 stars to 5 and 6 stars my question is do i play those maps and fail over and over again or should i play other maps and then come back to those even tho i dont enjoy them as much

[@TCLOAO]

i have played for around 5 months in full but i stop and start so its probably been around 1 to 2 months

[@TCLOAO]

osu.ppy.sh/users/15860801 this is my acc

[@solumblu5979]

what if i focus on my weaknesses for 8h a day instead of 2. infinite skill hack

[@-poon-382]

This is very useful

[@freddiebensonstan7037]

There are some small tips but in general, play more is the answer. Look at Samson on osu, he hasn't even been playing for a year yet but he's 8k and has a 500. Just like vaxei, HE PLAYS SO FUCKING MUCH

[@c1a046]

so cool video, keep going :)

[@eeni4447]

Very nice video

[@cicchio5128]

Sono arrivato a 6k pp senza guess map di fiery e senza chikatto chika chika posso ritenermi soddisfatto 😩. Vorrei migliorare un po la longevità della mia tenacia e iniziare a burstare per bene che mappe mi consigli/consigliate? Ottimo video ci vediamo su twitch uwu👌

[@yuukoshamiko4786]

i knew it its not the only answer...

[@M4TTYN]

growth to also seeing improving takes time, to many deff need the basics as the *accent man said* all started on 1 star maps remember that. FUN should be key no matter what to a general should get out you're comfort zone in this case play with HD, HR or DT (even FL or something) but lower diff then you're average but a certain time for adding mods into the mix And hey Mcosu is a thing if you want to "train" in higher AR, BGM, HP drain etc. listen to the accent man! the skin isn't key ether but yea *insert DT skin from whitecat, rafis etc that surely ain't the same skin* is good for DT but skins, tablet area, Mouse Vs tablet is all preference. more then just standard too btw ppy just ain't make the fan game of elite beat agent for you to only play that 1 mode ya nerd! each got their own pros, cons to yea no many can read 9K (nine key) but add some variety this is a VIDEO GAME.

[@Arancinoo]

LA PROPIC DI MARKDEN CON MINECRAFTFAN È PERFETTA

[@solost3084]

Thx , Spazza17 :)

[@trotic3405]

SOULJA BOY

[@lance6971]

Artits?

[@jallukka]

Agreed

[@norlax]

my first 200pp play was cbcc DT with a B bruh

[@TheSalami]

Me explaining how

[@HikariP]

Hello Tobey Maguire

[@puffonxe]

It's not "Play more" it's "Play better"

[@SipCyanide]

I fced despacito hd 92% 175 pp 😎

[@FdPros]

god

[@ruvikko]

What a god. Tips on how to improve?

[@johnny1846]

92% bruh

[@SerreVid-dt8sm]

I want to know how to make a speed up ver of some map cuz I need it pwp

[@tronix2125]

Download osu trainer

[@lanzlagman3511]

I played for a year already and am still 200k. I'm just bad

[@noobto4927]

I've been playing since 2017 and I'm 35k, your improvement doesn't look slow or fast by any means, just normal

[@nonsochiama]

i play for 8 month and im 31k with 5 300 pp and 1 400pp

[@genouwu6667]

Hello, figured i'd give it a run publicly on youtube then! I am Rank - 14k, I play 3-5 minute maps majority of the time either No Mod or HDHR or HD. I would say my best trait as an osu player I may have is my aim and accuracy. I've been playing osu for a good 2 years maybe, and I really lack in the speed department such as 190 bpm is a struggle and even 180 at times. So i'm asking how does one begin training speed or is it I may have posture, equipment, desk/chair issues instead? I do not know, for a good while now I have tried on my own for an hour or two a day work on speed and try to develop myself but to little result I found none. So now i'm doing just like Spazza said in his video to type to a streamer, but i'll do it here instead. I'm asking for your help or any minor things I could be doing wrong, I have finally given up and seeking guidance. Thank you and have a good day!

[@BigDBrian]

I know it's 7 months down the line but there are some good resources specifically for training speed/stamina. I want to link them directly but youtube might detect me as spam and hide my comment. osu! | How to Improve Stamina/Speed by Spare [osu!] Speed, stamina and accuracy by Kyori 『osu!』Ryuk on Building Stamina, Finger Control by VividSky They're not 100% in agreement with each other but you should be able to take advice and get the general idea of what's right for you. The TL;DR is you want to find a comfortable hand position for yourself, be healthy and practice in a bpm range 10-20 above your current target. So if you can comfortably stream 160bpm you should play 180-190bpm maps that have various stream lengths after warming up. You can use stream practice maps or [1025] as a benchmark but not your main practice tool.

[@manu04011]

Questo video è stato creato dalla Omeme gang

[@sorasarielcl]

Instead of saying play more since they are impatient, tell them to git gud

[@osku2290]

Yea i fucked up i have almost 15d worth of playtime and most of it was in the past 2 months playing 4-8 hours a day and im rank 198k 😂

[@baconn5122]

are u recording in your bathroom

[@Bobba_osu]

only liked for the epic joke

[@terrawolf]

Play more stream practice

[@derhesligebonsaibaum]

Rank 50k in 1.5 years is pretty hard if you haven't played games like Osu before nowadays tbh.

[@4hedron852]

Oh wait really? I thought I was a bit below average at 78k with 1y2m

[@derhesligebonsaibaum]

@@4hedron852 always depends on how much you play and how hard you farm obv.

[@NoreoNC]

take brakes in between osu! sessions and play other games

[@sobot_]

6months, 5 digit and i can dt non dt maps kekw

[@taikoto8199]

If by non-dt you mean not farm maps, I hope you know any DT player can do that.

[@Yon_-]

Play less 5head

[@nahnvm8493]

I just play for fun lol

[@nasobol90]

physically limited :/

[@Kransch]

It's all genetics anyways so if you don't improve in like 1 week you can just quit because at this point it's just a waste of time..... KEKW

[@beans8373]

I literally don’t know how I’m a six digit but am able to do seven stars.

[@fainted5989]

I can do 8 stars and close to doing a 9 star and i am six digit do not ask me how

[@johnny1846]

a little late but you guys are hurting your accuracy lol.

[@hvrst6241]

also a bit late but it's basically destroying your consistency

[@bam7655]

I’m currently taking a 6 month break (almost 5 months in) and I can tell you my aim is gonna be dog shit when I come back lmao

[@aimarbcs]

play offline.

[@aaaaaa-py6sg]

Ur comment is getting spammed by weird links lol

[@spookyy7278]

its genetics lol

[@M4TTYN]

heck yea IDKE's kids deff will be top 20 on osu! in sheer months due to their father genetics! xD

[@parkm310]

Everyone in the comments write 200 word essays Me: 👁️👄👁️

[@infinitstart]

i've been playing this game for 9-10 years (first 3 years without account), i'm still bad lel. plzenjoygame. enjoy the weeb culture that you will discover along the way. maybe you'll find your favorite eroge here. //it's not like i've found one of my top fav eroge here, b-b baka.

[@kamabanana123]

O-o

[@antip0is0n]

Name of the Eroge? Owo

[@succ448]

Your >"mindset"< is most crucial to get improvement and this translates to >"everything in life"

[@test-tl8dt]

correct. osu! is almost entirely a mindset game. without proper mindset and motivation you will never get anywhere no matter how much you "play more" i say this as 1k hours low 5 digit because my mindset and motivation is dogshit. there are 3 and 2 digits with less or equal playtime to me and i think its entirely due to this. why would i have the will and push to improve like a top player if i just get angry and sick of the game after not hitting some arbitrary dopamine FC or goal or just "play for fun" and dont gather anywhere near efficient playtime and smart practice.

[@nitrine]

I am 11k after 360ish hours. When I play Osu I try not to focus on raw improvement, and I spend 75% or more of the time farming, the other time spent working on stamina. I rarely think about improving my aim, but it just naturally gets better the more I play. I think that once you realize you aren’t improving, you get frustrated and stunt growth even more. I play for pp mostly, not improvement, and I improve faster than most people. Getting better is way too complicated to even comprehend.