PLAY TO WIN vs MODERATELY ANONYMOUS MTG vs THE LABORATORY MANIACS - cEDH Gameplay

We recently were on Moderately Anonymous's stream along with LabManCam so we decided to turn one of those games into a Play to Win Game!
We have:
Cam on Kenrith - www.moxfield.com/decks/c9Yyca...
Dylan on Nath - www.moxfield.com/decks/6amD0w...
Mod on Ikra/Kraum - www.moxfield.com/decks/WP5JJq...
Check them out here - / @modanonmtg
LamManCam on Tasigur - www.moxfield.com/decks/2_BtIw...
Find the Lab Maniacs here - / @laboratorymaniacs
PATREON/DISCORD - / playtowin
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MERCH - www.bonfire.com/store/play-to...
PLAYMATS/TOKENS - www.playtowinmtg.com/merch
ALTERSLEEVES - www.altersleeves.com/playtowin
PODCAST Spotify! - open.spotify.com/show/0jkKhZ9...
PODCAST iTunes! - podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
LINK TREE - linktr.ee/playtowinmtg

[@Dragynstone1202]

Love hearing you guys talk about the WHY of your decisions, not just what you're doing!

[@MaxMckayful]

Same. Love knowledgable commentary.

[@fluffylegend294]

THIS!! All of this right here!!

[@ModAnonMTG]

"Mod dying to Ad Nauseam was the best thing that could have happened to the table" Please write that on my headstone 😂😂 Great games y'all!

[@ciaranmckenna4967]

Doing us proud! 😂

[@StackedEDH]

Fun game! And yeah: turns out if an opponent controls a permanent you own when you die in a game of Commander, you get it back! 800.4a is the rule (for the curious).

[@olafthemoose9413]

Doesn't it depend on the effect? You get it back from a treachery but not from an agent of treachery or a gilded drake.

[@LaboratoryManiacs]

@@olafthemoose9413 Not quite. When a player leaves a multiplayer game, the last thing that happens, before their permanents are exiled, is that ALL controlling effects they have end. Meaning anything that was in play, and then that player gained control of it, would go back to their owner's control. The exception here, is that if something was put into play without ever being controlled by another player. I.E. if someone Bribery's out a creature, then loses the game, the bribery'd creature is exiled. Same with something like Gather Specimens, It enters under a different player's control and never was in the control of the owner. Both Agent and Gilded Drake's controlling effects would end when a player leaves the game, returning the permanents to the previous controller.

[@quentonmcclure8233]

@@LaboratoryManiacs i thought this only applied to effects that specify "until end of turn" as in edh, when a player leaves the game, their steps and phases continue as normal and their permanents that were stolen are returned at what would be the end of their turn. But since gilded drake didnt specify an end for the steal effect, they should get exiled because they were under the control of the person who left the game past the end of turn

[@olafthemoose9413]

@@quentonmcclure8233 ah thx makes sense that way.

[@jfb-]

Not 100% accurate - If you did control it originally, you get it back (e.g. with drake), but if they manage to put it into play under their control (e.g. with reanimate) then it's exiled

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone die to Ad Nauseum in CEDH. Respect to Mod though,, he definitely died doing what he loved.

[@stevesanzone5209]

As a fan of that guy baby Jeebus... This videos makes me happy.

[@oddball_covers]

I'm very happy you got mod on! They're an awesome player and cool person

[@johnveit2139]

Cam play the way you want.

[@Wiggly-T]

Love the Nath deck Dylan! It looks superfun.

[@alan.7525]

The interjections between interactions are really nice, I think that does make a great distinction between your videos and others! Love the gameplay from y’all

[@jaredmillett2786]

I recently started watching you guys, not the biggest cEDH person, but you guys make it look super fun and interesting. I recently bought some alters to try out some cEDH!

[@LateKnightsMTG]

Hey Cam, I got your back. Kenrith Evo, is a deck looking to midrange the heck out of any pod. Ad Naus is a great card, however this deck can't support it. Not enough mana, so low resource ad nauses are pretty trash.

[@joshuajinsu2559]

The extra commentary and politic-ing was a great addition. Easily one of the best vids y'all have released. Y'all the best😤🙏

[@09Dragonite]

Loved the episode guys, excellent guests and some really fun plays.

[@jamesbryant455]

Your videos have certainly helped me become a better EDH player and I appreciate when you explain the why you did it.

[@miguelflorendo7771]

I play the same kind of Kenrith Midrange, and don't play Ad Nauseum as well. Way to go Cameron! Fire Covenant wins games!

[@arisespiritu4162]

Another solid episode! Always makes my weekend feel good

[@jonnymiller1989]

🤣🤣🤣 always good vibes in this pod. Look forward to seeing more games like this.

[@somefishhere]

Cam: my deck is too midrange to run ad naus safely Mod: I’ll die to Peer into the Abyss, some 3/4 cmc stuff, and Bolas’ Citadel thanks

[@jfb-]

The real big brain play is to play as naus but tell people that you don't

[@inferior2955]

Cam... your absolutely wrong you should always play ad naus

[@turnugin5645]

Happy 4th kings, great video as always!

[@Highwang]

All these Guilded Drakes on the board. What a nightmare.

[@Hitzel]

jut need to add some okos on top of it :)

[@kstandish42]

Mod with the token: I died doing what I loved. If that’s not THE hallmark of cedh? I don’t know what is. Dylan to your point I feel like Nath would be better served in abzan because of the inclusion of white silence and stax would really push the rest of the table down to your level.

[@drewbacca1449]

Love that you both talk with your hands in every video

[@dannymerritt7746]

Cam thank you for playing fire covenant!

[@ghost64626]

Dan killing themselves was perfect lol

[@benjamindavidgoebel1818]

Loved the good long game!

[@johnmarcellino5034]

Oh shit a new play to win! You guys rock

[@frankdetank9126]

So, I'm back! Just a bacon-loving dude here. I told you I'd come by each video and ask for a "best Enchantress in cEDH" video--feel free to make it happen Cap'ns!

[@LordBiscuit]

You guys are great, def love your vids

[@tylermoore6774]

Loving Camjam's dual proxies. fucking sick! 🖤

[@CeilingNinja]

Mod has great nail polish!!

[@ModAnonMTG]

Bless 🙏🙏

[@KingCez100]

Dope intro “BEGIN!”

[@paulmcclain642]

On the “BEGIN” my heart skipped a few beats shoulda checked that headphone volume

[@smack80]

in answer to gilded drake when the player dies, it used to be the rule that permamnets exiled when the player died. It was changed a while back

[@thisguyIGOTOUNO]

What the F is this music?! Around 6 minutes how it follows the Gilded Drake. So good. Great job mixing the levels in and out too!

[@jennaeasley2277]

Couldn’t the sadistic hypnotist respond to the swords to get rid of everyone’s hands by repeatedly responding over top the swords but also letting nath triggers resolve and then reactivating hypnotist till the table has no hands

[@jacobmorales3456]

can only activate as a sorcery

[@jacob510]

When a player dies all effects that change ownership such as gilded drake end and the drake will return to it's owner. Now if you have an opponents permanent via something like casting it or reanimating it etc then it will get exiled.

[@angerpaw3838]

Dude Cams proxies for og duals are beautiful and I want some :D

[@theogrist2348]

Would you guys ever think of playing an araumi list? I just made mine and I think (pretty biased though) that it's kinda spicy. It's a mix of graveyard, control, and ad naus stuff

[@mackenner-aspery2715]

That has to be one of the best turn one wheels oml

[@yscg-4277]

I’m just waiting for the windgrace cEDH decklist 😩 Worldgorger+animate dead+altar of the brood is super easy and consistent to get in jund and probably the funnier win in cEDH Or blightsteel through the breach turn 1

[@dotcom1235]

Cam where did you get your alter/proxy dual lands?

[@TheG4urdian]

Ha dying to Ad Naus is why I swapped to Godo for a little, I get a little tooo greedy and a liitle too ballsy Great game incredibly enjoyable from start to finish!

[@primeshifter6665]

Glad you went for the brain win and not for trample lot more fun that way good game

[@samadams5530]

I've always seen ad naus as either a win on the spot in some specific decks, and just a decent draw spell in everything else

[@Blythus]

Yo, where did Cam get his dual alters/proxies? They look absolutely sick and I need some right now

[@christopherpatricklizares5306]

As a guy playing Rule of Law Kenrith, you're completely fine skipping Ad Nauseam, Cameron!

[@basicbobert4426]

Where did Cam get those dual land proxies I love them!?

[@Nailgraizer]

before we play our first game our group now all does the Ready...*look around* BEGIN! thing. It's hella fun.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

I love this so much

[@TheRDRipley]

I know this is stupid but every time I see yall play a card I play in casual I can't help but think "OK I'm doing SOMETHING right" 🤣

[@geoffreygarfein9169]

Happiest Fourth Bois. Much love from WA state.

[@batboibob4910]

What’s the name of the song playing before the end of the game?

[@josetorres88]

Perfección pura.... Besitos el chikistrikis!! 😉

[@Hero40330]

How do we get our hands on those nice play to win sleeves I want to put my new deck in those beautiful things

[@xampleloginname]

I like Cameron's style on the just not using adnaus.

[@Sinasappelsaus]

Cam, are those duals proxies? And if so where can i get them?

[@GoldfishP22]

If your cards are stolen with effects like oblivion ring the reason you don’t get it back is because the trigger that would return it when the enchantment leaves is taken off the stack when the player dies.

[@matthewrobert1810]

I was always under the impression if one of your permanents is on their side of the board and they die it exiles? I'm so confused now lol

[@tserrofz9]

Dumb question, Cam, Where did you get your ABUR dual proxies? Also IDK if you guys watch FalseSwipe Gaming but he uses this song alot and I 100% love hearing it

[@Hitzel]

I've got mine off of MakePlayingCards. mpcautofill probably has those designs.

[@ADVBCAT]

I hope you keep playing Nath 😌

[@ramarrevan]

The neuromancer altersleeves are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@firstandlast.1254]

BBQ and PtW, happy Independence Day indeed!

[@jesuscorro2251]

Is there a Zur the enchanter game in these guys channel? I love the commentary by the way!!! ❤️

[@turnugin5645]

There is! It's one of the 3 color episodes

[@richardtarbell946]

Tasigur! letssss goooo Update: tasigur :(

[@jakestromberg9128]

How much do you love those kickstarter alter sleeves

[@wertoyboy]

Yooo man love the channel! I noticed you played tergrid this game but she’s not in your primer? Did you make some changes? I love her in the deck though! Makes death cloud even better!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Yup, tergrid has since been removed from my list. I found it too slow

[@justmeme001]

What are those sleeves Dylan is using?

[@Codence666]

City of Solitude can help you get those golgari combos off Dylan

[@katherinebrossett3415]

Does anyone know where they get their proxies

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

Jesus the “begin” was cursed

[@EDHNeoRoyal]

You already have your graveyard gang? Color me jealous haha

[@TheBDAMaster]

Hopefully someone can answer this for me. Where did Cam get the art/design for his dual lands? I'm building an EDH Cube and would love to use those versions.

[@arkenexus_]

They are proxies

[@sambrown9475]

Allosaurus shepherd is a good idea to help with counter magic it wouldn't of helped with chain of smog but for others its nice

[@Xeno-MTG]

@Dylan: what's your reasoning behind running Hapatra? I can see the synergy with potentially having a lot of tokens, but has it pulled some weight for you before?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Combos with yawgmoth and is very good against green decks with mana dorks

[@kurtzimmerman9272]

Hey play to win love the channel here's an interesting thought my play group has house banned thassas Oracle we think it's too warping either could you guys do an episode on the best decks if orcale was banned

[@heathbasner9276]

Thank you when I started playing if you didn't have any cards in your library it's very likely you lost I'm sick and tired of these I have no cards in my library yet I win games I don't consider that a real win

[@GrutaDasHistorias]

Dudes! You guys ever built a deck around Jeska and Ishai? I'd love to see that!

[@Xeno-MTG]

I run that one from time to time. Very fun pairing :)

[@maggiek8616]

Just a query. Wasn't Camjam's Gilded Drake a Phantasmal image version? Therefore would have died to him targeting it with his own Kenrith ability?

[@mn6334]

I'm pretty sure Mod(?) cast the Phantasmal Image so when he left the game the Phantsmal Image left the game with him and the Gilded Drakes that the other two had cast were returned. That was Cam's real Gilded Drake.

[@calwomack94]

You should've sac'd the hypnotist to itself to force cam to discard 2 cards in response to the swords

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Sorcery speed

[@calwomack94]

@@PlaytoWinMTG I always forget sorcery speed lol

[@kilian6464]

I see the banana king i upvote.

[@AUGOM0919]

Give bananaman some love..

[@dylandaprato7320]

Put these guys on the command zone for a CEDH game

[@souradeepgoswami4654]

Command Zone has made it clear they won’t do any cEDH content.

[@dylandaprato7320]

@@souradeepgoswami4654 STILL, I think they’d be awesome to have on even if it isn’t cRDH

[@dylandaprato7320]

cEDH*

[@ArmorBreaker88]

12:09 did dylan loose the 2 life for Imp seal? (not confluence or G-Drake attack)

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Correct I forgot like a giant cheater

[@iansamuel1811]

I love how the video starts off with everyone saying how fire their hand was and then cameron silently lays down the nastiest t1 ryhstic t2 remora that never dies with backup. too bad he wasnt on the play. ya'll woulda got smoked

[@orsettomorbido]

Sad Nauseam is exactly why I'm thinking to stop playing it, even though I love the strategy. I'm really too unlucky XD Either with life or the cards I get. I can't remember the last time I managed to cast it, stay alive AND get enough cards to win on the spot (and yeah, my deck IS built properly, in theory XD)

[@eightys_style6077]

How come you guys never play graveyard hate? Or land destruction?

[@reivax2654]

I love Dan. He my friend

[@zaq001]

Ah, the difference is that guilded drake is a control changing effect where as bribery isn't. That's a little odd, but whatever.

[@TheHunter128]

So if you have no cards to discard are you still able to copy chain of smog?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Yes

[@TheHunter128]

Pogers into seralf it goes

[@blakey9869]

You're absolutely wrong Cameron:)

[@XpPotions]

Cam is absolutely right and ad naus is overrated

[@alessandromanfron4936]

Tasigur list??😊

[@mathewchaney5411]

What the shit; I-Kraum gets Kraum out turn 1 any-fuckin-way!? Edit: Kraum doing his imitation of a pre-ban Primeval Titan wArPiNg ThE GaMe!!!1

[@shyuugaheero2614]

Dylan! Avoid Fate! Try it.

[@winter945]

Cam, you're wrong You should be picking evens as damage for mana crypt, this game clearly shows it is the superior option

[@fighterinferno7776]

lol hullbreacher is no longer a problem.

[@zoopdoop_games]

to be fair if you continue the ad naus train while at 4 life you kinda are asking to die lol

[@sir_quirkus7206]

can u not sac the hypnotist to itself to prevent exiling?

[@sir_quirkus7206]

nvm lol i forgot it was sorcery speed

[@SlavicMoose]

B E G I N

[@GoblinmasterYT]

Happy 4th everyone

[@LC-wv7tz]

What are the odds that three players starting hand has a Crypt? That seems a little crazy.