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@thedepresseddog6035
@thedepresseddog6035 Күн бұрын
I noticed swipa has a problem with any 4/5 compared to or placed higher than jokic. The way he talks about Giannis, Embiid, or AD is a huge indication of his bias against them in favor of jokic.
@mayowaojutalayo853
@mayowaojutalayo853 Күн бұрын
noticed this as well he seems to want jokic to be the undisputed best big, while a guard like sga he seems more tame with
@SummerAwe99
@SummerAwe99 Күн бұрын
@@thedepresseddog6035 he’s the biggest Jokic glazer on planet Earth
@thedepresseddog6035
@thedepresseddog6035 Күн бұрын
@mayowaojutalayo853 Facts. He makes it seem as though jokic completely clears all of them. When in reality we haven't seen giannis vs. Jokic in nearly a year and same for Embiid vs jokic. The only exception would be AD, and that only because they both play in the west and the nuggets and lakers currently have a rivalry going.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
Wemby is different. Amen is the best athlete since prime bron. Sga>tatum
@yahiaali4059
@yahiaali4059 2 күн бұрын
I don’t even think amen better athlete than guys like antman,wiggins,lavine and even Aaron gordon lowkey
@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti
@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti 2 күн бұрын
​@@yahiaali4059it bcz u think athletism is dunking or jumping high
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
@ and i disagree
@FTO9797
@FTO9797 2 күн бұрын
@@yahiaali4059watch more amen lol comparing him to some of these guys athletically is disrespectful kinda , they jus have better dunk packages, amen got the speed of young Lebron in transition , vertical of Jordan , second jump of Zion , deceleration of luka, amazing lateral quickness and he’s strong and 6’7
@clad_diamond
@clad_diamond 2 күн бұрын
​@@FTO9797 this man marz has you guys in mind controll the way you believe all of his take. Fox zion drose russ giannis wemby are clearly better athletes and if you want to count wade as after lebron then wade as well
@tayluc777
@tayluc777 2 күн бұрын
Pen about to have SGA over Magic Johnson next time we see him after this performance 😅
@OK-ce8cn
@OK-ce8cn Күн бұрын
LMAOO
@dukebaylocks
@dukebaylocks Күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733
@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733 2 күн бұрын
That man said tatum better than SGA on offense 🤦🏾‍♂️. Lawddd. I just really want to know in his head what does he see in JT that literally everyone else doesnt see.
@justinjohnson861
@justinjohnson861 2 күн бұрын
I think it’s just not watching sga enough, he’s said Tatum is a better midrange shooter than sga before like it gets to a point 😭😭 also said he’s better in iso and finishes better like okc isn’t being watched enough
@itszaaaamzeh
@itszaaaamzeh 2 күн бұрын
He gon double back yall gotta let chill live lol
@malikwilson7387
@malikwilson7387 2 күн бұрын
​​@@justinjohnson861the disrespect for Shai on this platform is peak casual Level
@justinjohnson861
@justinjohnson861 2 күн бұрын
@@malikwilson7387 we’ll get respect one day
@malikwilson7387
@malikwilson7387 2 күн бұрын
@justinjohnson861 Facts bro once we win the championship this year
@C1assic074
@C1assic074 Күн бұрын
Marz was preaching. Luka’s alarm system defense is the perfect scheme for Dallas.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
W alarm system defense
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@C1assic074 If you don’t cut it out 😂😂😂… Marz is so convincing that it’s really getting dangerous
@NixIII7
@NixIII7 2 күн бұрын
Shai >>>>>>> Tatum
@nykareem2001
@nykareem2001 Күн бұрын
51 pts game 7
@elijah6757
@elijah6757 Күн бұрын
@@nykareem2001dnc sga better
@KiloCreations
@KiloCreations Күн бұрын
Why?
@NixIII7
@NixIII7 Күн бұрын
@@KiloCreations “Scratching things off my bucket list I can't go back and forth with somebody that is bucket-less.” -SGA
@theofficialonce
@theofficialonce Күн бұрын
The jimmy butler conversation is very weird and unnecessary, at this point we're just up here making assumptions and condemning him for a situation we know nothing about. Calling Jimmy a crybaby for voicing his grievances in his workplace is probably the worst thing I've heard today. Saying someone isn't obligated happiness or enjoyment out of a job they're getting paid to do, is a very ignorant and insensitive perspective on the plights of working people, whether they're millionaires or not. Why does it have to take extreme circumstances such as abuse(in any form) to accept and/or acknowledge someone's dejection in a work environment? By that way of thinking, anyone who voices an issue with their work environment is a crybaby, because as long as there is no violence or shortage of pay, then there is no problem, which is essentially just shut up and dribble, metaphorically speaking.
@tayluc777
@tayluc777 Күн бұрын
Cooked up a full course meal
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
i concur
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz Күн бұрын
@@theofficialonce I also liked how Ox asked if Miami was a toxic workplace and nobody said anything as if we didn’t all sit there and watch Pat Riley go up and basically tell him to shut his ass up in old man terms on live television. Imagine in any other situation on the planet you’re negotiating salary, take some PTO for your dads death, and your boss decides to do stand up in front of the entire company and say that to you. I get that basketball players are millionaires so they seemed spoiled but the people paying them are billionaires… they still got bosses and shit like the rest of us. any other situation on earth that’s a lawsuit or HR scandal but when Pat Riley does it, it’s so cool and badass because he’s a wannabe mafia boss lmao.
@theofficialonce
@theofficialonce Күн бұрын
@@nomorepartiezz I've never understand why athletes get dehumanized simply because they're rich. They are still humans like the rest of us, they cry, they scream, they bleed, they pray, like we all do. Society has this weird belief that money somehow absolves us of the things that make us human. I forgot who it was, but someone missed a game to see the birth of their child, be there for the woman they love, and that person was getting slandered for it by sports culture. shit is disgusting.
@Matthew-xl5bc
@Matthew-xl5bc Күн бұрын
​@@theofficialonceThe media has brainwashed many fans to be pro team owner and anti player. There is nothing wrong with athletes complaining about their work environment since average do it normally.
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 2 күн бұрын
Racking up 31 50 pieces as a 2 guard w/ no real 3 ball is fucking incredible
@448DamonXX
@448DamonXX 2 күн бұрын
Was basically going against college players
@SourCowboyJeep
@SourCowboyJeep 2 күн бұрын
@@448DamonXX”basically going against college players” I pray you get that hurt out ya heart you sound like a weirdo
@soloooaj
@soloooaj Күн бұрын
@@448DamonXXhe also has an incredible amount of games with 30+ fga
@itszaaaamzeh
@itszaaaamzeh 2 күн бұрын
Bob fighting for his life to still have Tatum > SGA
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 2 күн бұрын
Lol im tryna find an angle BUT SGA making it real hard
@huncho5554
@huncho5554 Күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMediadon’t be like the old man , if you struggling that hard to find reason why he shouldn’t then chill got to you with that Celtics bias
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@huncho5554 I mean it’s not obvious to me that SGA is better than him either though 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️
@huncho5554
@huncho5554 Күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMedia hmm so you dislike the nba now because of 3’s but you like this “superstar” Tatum that chucks them. A former pro player on the panel said he had 5 tvs and was watching all the games you need to do that ox
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@ Luncho this ain’t about who I like, it’s about who’s better
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
Yall see Ron try to line me up with that new school vs old school debate with Marz… I don’t got time for that lol not on a Monday. That is a Friday segment lol I got more sense than that 😂😂😂
@rashonduswashington4025
@rashonduswashington4025 Күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@PlayersChoiceShow
@PlayersChoiceShow Күн бұрын
That's your man, Ox! (pause)
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@ allegedly!!!
@teylorrodriguez5891
@teylorrodriguez5891 Күн бұрын
Marz gambling addiction in 2025 we here lmao
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@teylorrodriguez5891 😈😈😈
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
that parlay did NOT hit
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@ haha looks like only Lively wanted to see us eat
@moneyman4740
@moneyman4740 2 күн бұрын
Everytime i say chill is a Wemby hater becuase he may threaten Bron’s legacy and he will pass Tatum soon on the NBA hierarchy , anytime Wemby gets any love here he comes being negative , ask Chill how long it took him to believe in Lebron , what Wemby is doing rn is unheard of and unprecedented , and Chill’s despise for it is hilarious to see
@Matthew-xl5bc
@Matthew-xl5bc Күн бұрын
Wemby low key might be better than Tatum now
@thedepresseddog6035
@thedepresseddog6035 Күн бұрын
Unless you believe wemby is going to play 15-20 years and average 25 plus the entire time , while also being a top 15 player the entire time also. And consistently playing in or winning the finals. I don't see how that would affect bron?
@moneyman4740
@moneyman4740 Күн бұрын
@@thedepresseddog6035 nobody saw Lebron doing all that , we knew he would be good but again he surpassed expectations , but its obviously something deep routed that affects chill wen it comes to Wemby , i know he wasnt this critical of Bron in 05 , Wemby is that level of great/ effective , i jus know its something there , and also i said Wemby “has a chance” i dont know if he will ever be in Jordan/Bron talks but he is off to a hell of a start
@thedepresseddog6035
@thedepresseddog6035 Күн бұрын
@@moneyman4740 I agree that there's no way to predict how good someone will be especially when they already have tons of hype surrounding them. But I think what makes bron different from Jordan or Jordan different from kareem or kareem different from bron is despite the hype, they achieved success in different ways. As far as wemby, right now the expectation is for him to be a top 10 player of all time. And I personally think he has the talent to be that but think because the expectation are so high that he won't live up to it through no fault of his own. Also when it comes to chill and he's views on tatum, I get it. While I do think chill overrates tatum, I also think a lot of fans try and underrate him because his game is boring. So to say wemby is better than him after 100 games does seem excessive considering we haven't seen how wemby will perform in the playoffs.
@moneyman4740
@moneyman4740 Күн бұрын
@@thedepresseddog6035 i appreciate how u broke that down , you’re absolutely correct , only time will tell and yea Chill makes solid tatum points as well i cant lie
@dashfetchem3458
@dashfetchem3458 Күн бұрын
I do like Tatum as one of my favorites… he not better then sga offensively hasn’t been in 2-3 years
@DreJ912
@DreJ912 Күн бұрын
Never paid attention to the whole “L host” thing. But after watching that masterpiece of hosting from Marz, I realized how awful Ron is. Still was a good episode. Great work fellas!
@Senseicjj
@Senseicjj 2 күн бұрын
I can’t say Wemby is as good as he is today because of how good he will be in the future? Do they not hear how stupid they sound?
@RIDGEMATIC
@RIDGEMATIC Күн бұрын
Derrick Rose was a SAVAGE
@JHPG5
@JHPG5 2 күн бұрын
W kawhi
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@JHPG5 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
@JalenStephens-g8w
@JalenStephens-g8w 2 күн бұрын
Marz thank you for being the only panelists that respect embiid 2023 mvp year even tho you've said he shouldn't have won it but you always put respect on the year he had part of me as a Joel fan which he didnt win mvp that year because people just bash him for winning it instead of appreciating the season he had also 2023 Joel > shai rn swipa a hater
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
embiid always gonna get the respect he deserves from me
@JalenStephens-g8w
@JalenStephens-g8w 2 күн бұрын
​@MarzTalksSportsbesides when you lied and said David Robinson is better but yea for the most part you give him his respect
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
@ lmao
@JalenStephens-g8w
@JalenStephens-g8w Күн бұрын
@MarzTalksSports you know you don't believe that marz lmao embiid better b serious
@NeoSpartacus17
@NeoSpartacus17 2 күн бұрын
Brice Sensabaugh will become the 3rd best player from the 23 draft, don't @ me
@tayluc777
@tayluc777 2 күн бұрын
Ohio State legend
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
@@NeoSpartacus17 Sensabaugh fc
@Rideraragi
@Rideraragi 2 күн бұрын
ice brice will be the goat
@whoopiebob8782
@whoopiebob8782 Күн бұрын
Idk about that but I’m glad he’s getting his opportunity in Utah now. Guy is a super talented offensive player. Always loved him in that draft. Wanted OKC to trade up late for him.
@MOE__
@MOE__ 2 күн бұрын
W show W Harden W Pistons and W Lions
@Thebestoutthere
@Thebestoutthere 6 сағат бұрын
Miami was so unlucky for their finals runs. Both years they faced the best team in the season. I think they beat phoenix and dallas if they make the finals in 2021 and 2024. But I still feel like 2022 was supposed to be their year.
@Rideraragi
@Rideraragi Күн бұрын
chill acting like drose stopped jumping as high cause he was scared is so nasty
@MoneyCarter-io1hj
@MoneyCarter-io1hj Күн бұрын
chill analogy’s be fryin me😭
@Dologaming24
@Dologaming24 Күн бұрын
The Tatum hate too real lol
@dukedidit_tv
@dukedidit_tv 2 күн бұрын
L Marz as a host for not reading my super chat out loud smh
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
aint readin that nonsense
@dukedidit_tv
@dukedidit_tv Күн бұрын
@ makes me sad Ron gave you a bad experience of Seattle
@itszaaaamzeh
@itszaaaamzeh 2 күн бұрын
Put Josh Hart in the 90s he locking Jordan up. L Barkley
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@itszaaaamzeh I hate you so much right now 😂
@itszaaaamzeh
@itszaaaamzeh Күн бұрын
@BIGOXMedia 🤣🤣🤣 alright what if I said OG Anunoby? Then that's just another day in the office
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@ Haha OG don’t want no smoke with prime Jordan or Barkley
@itszaaaamzeh
@itszaaaamzeh 2 күн бұрын
I think the AD Free throw point isn't about scoring it's about getting fouled 2x as much as Wemby. That's why he brought up playing more games. The Load carried not being heavier, but he's carrying it more
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
oh maybe i didnt think about it that way
@FTO9797
@FTO9797 2 күн бұрын
Ngl… where the time stamps lol
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
theyll be here one day
@Frm662
@Frm662 Күн бұрын
It’s crazy Chill expected Jimmy to win the finals with the roster he had but when it comes down to LeBron losing yall blame teammates even though LeBron supposed to be better than Jimmy! 🧐
@johnnyhiphopandhoops9063
@johnnyhiphopandhoops9063 Күн бұрын
Marz what about Dennis Smith Jr ?1:45:00
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
amen>
@travisfuller2072
@travisfuller2072 Күн бұрын
So then y do we get so mad at the Cavs for not giving bron help that 07 Cavs team is comparable to these Miami heat teams
@markjefferson2434
@markjefferson2434 21 сағат бұрын
Why should players be greatful; but organizations shouldn't? Thats why Bron figured out the game early.
@88switchas
@88switchas Күн бұрын
Anybody see swipa get hit with the smelling salt prank 🤣
@carbinite-1380
@carbinite-1380 Күн бұрын
Where can I find the video?
@soscj
@soscj Күн бұрын
Chill still standing on Tatum > SGA makes no sense. Then to say he’s better than SGA offensively is even more ridiculous. His cop out is “I like the other stuff he does”. Just admit you’re wrong.
@desaunisimmons1397
@desaunisimmons1397 Күн бұрын
It’s lookin like the bucks the only team In the East that can beat the thunder 👀
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 2 күн бұрын
Even as good as OKC is now, I believe a healthy Clippers team can beat OKC cause I feel the Clippers got better depth
@JBatt-pq5tm
@JBatt-pq5tm 2 күн бұрын
Okc isn't healthy either
@BruceWayneson
@BruceWayneson 2 күн бұрын
????
@AVG123c
@AVG123c 2 күн бұрын
put the drugs down
@whoopiebob8782
@whoopiebob8782 Күн бұрын
Alex Caruso. Who doesn’t even start for OKC. Could start on the Clippers. Kris Dunn and DJJ couldn’t even start on OKC. Amir Coffey has gotten the 4th most minutes per game on Clippers so far. He wouldn’t even be the 7th man on OKCs Roster. Let’s be serious
@savcartier
@savcartier Күн бұрын
@@whoopiebob8782aaron wiggins better than the whole bench if we being honest
@branmarston
@branmarston Күн бұрын
tatum better on offence than who?????????
@cnoteda1and0nly
@cnoteda1and0nly Күн бұрын
Ox: I’m not as high on Wemby as you guys are Also Ox: Wemby’s gonna terrorize the league in a couple seasons
@MultiKenny
@MultiKenny Күн бұрын
He isn’t as high on Wemby as he is NOW.
@cnoteda1and0nly
@cnoteda1and0nly Күн бұрын
@ Marz said in 4 years look out. He says 2. He’s in fact higher on Wemby than they are.
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@cnoteda1and0nly I’m no where near as high as these guys are on Wemby TODAY
@gwapcity2098
@gwapcity2098 Күн бұрын
Ron is and always have been hella corny and annoying
@MohamedIbrahim-fi8rm
@MohamedIbrahim-fi8rm 2 күн бұрын
Bryce Sensabaugh talks when
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
Soon hopefully
@77STOMP
@77STOMP Күн бұрын
yall not ready for that blockbuster kyrie for bam trade. bam and luka duo
@DreJ912
@DreJ912 Күн бұрын
I HIGHLY doubt that’ll happen, especially with Lively’s development and how close Luka and Kyrie have become
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 2 күн бұрын
Didnt watch the whole show, did y’all talk about the disaster which is going on with the Suns
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
@@anthonycelestin3559 no
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 2 күн бұрын
@ KD is a great player but he’s not a leader and I believe wing type players & prototypical bigs don’t help you win. PGs help you win, not tall wings. As versatile KD is, he’s not a PG so you need to have a PG around him to win. Beal is a bad contract, CP3 impact on the Suns was underrated & was the best player on the Suns & better than Booker, Booker is nothing without CP3 and Ayton was the scapegoat when the Suns lost but he’s way better than Nurkic. Whatever the flaws KD has, the blame got to be on him cause he’s the best player on the team. People have probably overrated KD. Is KD really better than Harden now? Harden carried his to a top 5 seed and KD has his team 3 games below .500 & out of the play-in. As great as KD is, he has no impact on winning
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 2 күн бұрын
@ PC sometimes doesn’t talk about the current events. Beal & Nurkic getting benched and y’all don’t talk about that, it makes no sense. Not saying u got to talk about scandalous stuff like the Joy Taylor story but whats happening with the Suns should be talked about
@justinjohnson861
@justinjohnson861 2 күн бұрын
Is it Crazy to say sga is in Luka giannis convos now ? I think he’s a million steps above JT respectfully
@itszaaaamzeh
@itszaaaamzeh 2 күн бұрын
SGA better than Luka
@RMusing
@RMusing 2 күн бұрын
He is not on giannis convos, not even in luka convos.
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz 2 күн бұрын
@@itszaaaamzehrecency bias is a helluva drug
@JalenStephens-g8w
@JalenStephens-g8w Күн бұрын
@@itszaaaamzeh recency bias hitting like crack inna 80s relax
@mom3ntousjatt
@mom3ntousjatt Күн бұрын
@@nomorepartiezzits not recency bias. Its how he’s playing this season lmao. So what you supposed to wait 5 years to say that year was a good year? If SGA is playing better than Tatum and Luka you can say he’s better.
@fentanyljones6956
@fentanyljones6956 2 күн бұрын
Joe Mazzoula got that ‘tism and is incapable of adaptive game planning. Don’t @ me, ‘tism knows ‘tism.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
W 'tism
@rashonduswashington4025
@rashonduswashington4025 Күн бұрын
Shoutout to Steve smith dope player. Go do some homework
@KMM5821
@KMM5821 Күн бұрын
2:34:32 😅
@markjefferson2434
@markjefferson2434 21 сағат бұрын
Pat Riley needs to get off hos high horse! Period.
@newzay50
@newzay50 Күн бұрын
Amare a better overall athlete than blake griffin
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@newzay50 I 100% support this statement
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
valid
@Rayfoogaming
@Rayfoogaming Күн бұрын
They never talk about the Cavs it’s fucking crazy to me even when they beat good team how like we swept the nuggets shitty self but always want to talk about jokic
@nykareem2001
@nykareem2001 Күн бұрын
Marz should be sued for disinformation
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@nykareem2001 Care to elaborate
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@nykareem2001 I’m just really curious to know where the Marz hate comes from?
@nykareem2001
@nykareem2001 Күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMedia I used to have a valid reason but it’s been so long I forgot. Im just hating out of habit now.
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@nykareem2001 Haha that is pitiful Kareem let the fella breathe. You’re better than that
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
@@nykareem2001U so deep in it cant stop now,W
@SourCowboyJeep
@SourCowboyJeep 2 күн бұрын
Once again OX with this weird shit that nba players owe him something lmaoo
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@SourCowboyJeep Nobody in this world owes me anything. It’s weird that that’s what you heard from what I said.
@ceero4842
@ceero4842 Күн бұрын
Shai is NOT better then Tatum, he does have a deeper bag then JT, plays better 1on1 ball and I think his mid range is more efficient then JT ,but Tatum is still a better all around player when it comes to passing , rebounds, defense, and his playmaking IQ has got sharper these past couple seasons 🔥 Shai is my Pick for MVP this season. ((I Won’t be surprised if Jokic wins it tho💯))
@Longliveduhhkiid
@Longliveduhhkiid Күн бұрын
U can call me a hater but i really don’t see it wit Wemby (yet). I feel like a lot of his game gets bailed out just from his height. Besides his height nothin he does is really special honestly. His defense is ehh like I said a lot of his blocks he gets is bailed by his height. His positioning and perimeter defense isn’t that good tbh
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
nice
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 22 сағат бұрын
Hater
@pemp9606
@pemp9606 2 күн бұрын
What is this narrative that Wemby can’t move his feet on the perimeter??? no he’s not Bam, but his length recovers and makes up for that. Dumb narrative by Chill.
@shazebahmed0704
@shazebahmed0704 2 күн бұрын
Yeah jimmy come to Detroit we will give up Tobias Harris
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz Күн бұрын
Ox trippin lmao. You bringing up Dragic from 5 years ago. You bringing up Caleb Martin and the undrafted guys from 2023. Okay where are those guys now? Not on the damn Heat anymore. Who replaced their production? 45 year old Kevin Love? Dru Smith? That’s the entire damn point. The team has been getting worse every single year since 2022. Tell me how it’s been 5-6 seasons since this core started and they still haven’t figured out how to get a real PF besides one year of washed PJ Tucker? They still haven’t figured out how to get any center depth for Bam until Kelal Ware looking nice right now by the time the windows already been cooked? They still haven’t figured out how to get any actual firepower from the PG spot and have just been making lateral moves from washed Dipo to washed Lowry to washed Rozier? How you gonna sit there and watch the Celtics leave the team in the dust and then turn around and see Gabe Vincent, Max Strus, and Caleb Martin walking out the door to go get paid somewhere else, and then go a tell 35 year old Jimmy with a straight face that he still needa play 75 games at an all nba level and then go out and beat Boston and beat whoever comes out the West with Jaime Jaquez, and a Bam who’s falling off a cliff for no reason? Herro is just now having the season of his career after 5-6 years which props to him but it’s delusional to think that that’s enough. Pat don’t wanna pay him that because you don’t think he can do it and you knew the window was over, that’s straight, then you shoulda traded his ass way before when you were getting offers instead of letting him sit around getting pissed off and now tanking his trade value. Instead he wanted to play hardass mob boss and show everybody who’s the alpha like it’s 1995. Also while we’re bringing up Jimmy’s record of leaving teams why don’t we talk about how Pat Riley has ran every single Heat franchise star from the past 20 years out of town. Shaq LeBron *Wade* Jimmy all left the team on bad terms with him. He been in this way longer lmao.
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@nomorepartiezz Maybe they are done with Jimmy and they are just walking into a rebuild, I don’t know. All I know is that Miami put together some very competitive rosters, I don’t care if they arent super star names or if WE think they over achieved. Spo and Pat obviously saw something we didn’t see and I’m comfortable saying that they know more about what they’re doing than we do. Miami has been one of the most consistent and successful teams of the past 6 season so there should be no complaints from anybody.
@buusa
@buusa Күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMediabut respectfully they were successful because of over performance from jimmy and surrounding pieces, i think in the eastern conference specifically this is a big issue that a lot of teams fall into. they see one year of success in the EAST and settle with whatever their formula is thinking it’s the right path, bar the celtics. it happened to the bucks, the raptors, the sixers, and will probably happen to the pacers and knicks. even the hawks. i don’t think you can look at the rosters they put together and say in good faith that they were enough, they weren’t aggressive enough in getting that last x factor that they needed and now it’s over.
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 23 сағат бұрын
@@buusa from the outside looking in it’s easy to say we don’t think the team was good enough or we think the over achieved but how do we know that Pat and Spo didn’t expect those “lesser” guys to do exactly what they did
@matthewburke5044
@matthewburke5044 14 сағат бұрын
Chill, scottie wasn't this superior athlete compared to the best. He wasn't close to their speed, leaping, and quickness. Pippen was nowhere near jordans athleticism.
@jackmack7890
@jackmack7890 Күн бұрын
Wemby only looking good because Chris Paul I'm glad but if Chris Paul leaves and they don't find a point guard to complement Wemby he won't grow on none of the things that's making him just short of being The best player in league.
@HiiamLit
@HiiamLit Күн бұрын
Ox you hypocrite af lol you talk about mental health issues but Jimmy talk about how he feels about playing ball and sometimes you just loose the joy of playing ball he even said he's not helping them win. There's a lot of shit we don't know but yall so quick to say what you feel to be facts 😂
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
I’m only speaking on what we all know. I don’t think I’m a hypocrite for pointing out that Jimmy is clearly being a crybaby.
@Rayfoogaming
@Rayfoogaming Күн бұрын
So down with this shitty podcast how y’all not talk about the best team in the league
@Hoopsnev3rstop
@Hoopsnev3rstop Күн бұрын
Shai is better at scoring than JT but he isn’t a better offensive player respectfully
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 22 сағат бұрын
Bullshit
@Hoopsnev3rstop
@Hoopsnev3rstop 22 сағат бұрын
@ Shout out to you
@Korbix824
@Korbix824 Күн бұрын
Ox constantly makes horrendous takes and excuses for below average players that all of yall on the panel should KNOW weren’t gonna help jimmy actually win the finals after he carried Miami there twice and in 3 conference finals and chill usually has good takes but it’s disingenuous to say it’s about the money when jimmy has shown us all what he was capable of at the time of his run and some of those heat rosters were okay but they were never enough and he urged them to get him more help and pat Riley stingy ass didn’t wanna make a move cause of some damn “heat culture, instead of getting a comparable center and actually move bam to the 4 way earlier but now all of a sudden it’s about the money? Bros tired of losing and we know Miami not beating Cleveland Boston Milwaukee or even an injured or Orlando in the play in. Jimmy is COMPLETELY justified end of story.
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
@@Korbix824 what do you mean he’s tired of losing. How has he been losing? How many conference finals has he gone to in the past 5 years? How many finals has he been to in the past 5 years. And if Jimmy has been carrying these teams with no help then I’m curious to know where you rank Jimmy amongst the players of his generation/era.
@Senseicjj
@Senseicjj Күн бұрын
I mean this with sincerity, Chill needs to be open to a talk about how he views basketball. He’s missing something and he has been for a long time, there has to be a better alternative than him getting cooked in comments every show.
@ForeverVibez
@ForeverVibez Күн бұрын
W me W lavine last night and Yes
@officerricky3230
@officerricky3230 2 күн бұрын
Yall over rating Wemby a little. He isn’t better than AD. Even in his matchup with Jokic you could see how his floor it’s still the floor of a second year player. He took some very questionable shots in the 4th quarter of the second game. Too many 2-12 from 3 games. His ceiling is higher for sure tho
@astroboy3768
@astroboy3768 2 күн бұрын
He’s been clearly better than AD after the first 9 games and still better overall. He’s better defensively and more versatile offensively. He’s carrying his team with a worse supporting cast as well.
@l3gendarysage293
@l3gendarysage293 2 күн бұрын
I’m taking Ad still don’t worry about it Ad gonna bust wemby ass in back to back games again like always next week wemby has yet to record a win against his boogeyman Anthony Davis
@officerricky3230
@officerricky3230 2 күн бұрын
@ that doesn’t make him better than AD.
@FTO9797
@FTO9797 2 күн бұрын
He’s better offensive AND defensively how is AD better lol, Wemby has more insane statline games more often too
@Sevion825
@Sevion825 2 күн бұрын
I mean AD isn’t that much better of a decision maker tbh.
@deelak2329
@deelak2329 Күн бұрын
Wemby Dazzles? Meanwhile Joker averaged 44 14 9.5 in those two games hahaha
@clad_diamond
@clad_diamond 2 күн бұрын
Marz wemby has one of the worst turnover percentage without being a high level playmaker does that not count in his rankings? Also are we also going to ignore that ad has been best defender in the league since max has came to lineup?
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
@@clad_diamond ive factored his turnovers in. Definitely not ignoring how Ad has looked. u seem to be forgetting im the resident AD FC member on the panel
@clad_diamond
@clad_diamond 2 күн бұрын
@MarzTalksSports i just feel like ad defense last 10 to 15 games has been best he has ever played when i watch him imo
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 2 күн бұрын
@@clad_diamond best hes ever played feels like a reach
@nykareem2001
@nykareem2001 Күн бұрын
Marz doesn’t think turnovers are important bc of thinking basketball
@clad_diamond
@clad_diamond Күн бұрын
@MarzTalksSports maybe yes but these last 5 games espically against my hawks and his precience off and on court is realy impactful
@SummerAwe99
@SummerAwe99 Күн бұрын
Lebron has 929 20/5/5 games, MJ had 378 Lebron has 704 25/5/5 games, MJ had 319 Lebron has 417 30/5/5 games, MJ had 237 Lebron has 189 35/5/5 games, MJ had 134 Lebron passed MJ in scoring in 1700 less shots. MJ isn't a better scorer because he took more shots... such an elementary school argument. Lebron was asked to do more. Factoring in assists, Lebron contributes more overall offense per game anyway. Lebron on equal shots, scores more than MJ. Lebron is more efficient than MJ from 2 and 3. STOP THE BS
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
deciding who contributes more on offense based on points and assists combined is interesting
@SummerAwe99
@SummerAwe99 Күн бұрын
@MarzTalksSports deciding whos a better scorer based on how many shots you took is also interesting.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
@@SummerAwe99 very interesting considering that didnt happen
@SummerAwe99
@SummerAwe99 Күн бұрын
@MarzTalksSports Ox was in this video, saying that it shouldn’t be mentioned because of the games needed. But it only took more games because he takes considerably less shots, per game.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
@@SummerAwe99 ox aint me
@puncho8799
@puncho8799 Күн бұрын
I agree with OX we should leave Jordan out of these conversations because he is the undisputed greatest of all time 🐐 so just argue between LeBron Kareem, and whoever else you want to throw in there because Jordan will always be seen as the goat and the majority of people eyes and I see y’all didn’t talk about who has the most 40 point games at the moment LeBron is at 72 and Jordan has 174 I’m pretty sure he’s not going to pass that record and Chill has lost his old head card for thinking LeBron is better than Jordan but I get he has to cater to the youngsters which is this channels fan base 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
bill russell>
@puncho8799
@puncho8799 Күн бұрын
@ Bill Russell was great, but the league was undeveloped with only 8-10 teams and a couple playoffs and finals series and he was not the leading scorer of his team. He only averaged 15 points he was known for his rebounding but nice try Marz we all know you like to troll 🤣
@thedepresseddog6035
@thedepresseddog6035 Күн бұрын
Bron better, but Jordan cool too.
@puncho8799
@puncho8799 Күн бұрын
@ How can LeBron be better when Jordan still has a full HOF career over him you know accomplishments that really matters not just longevity stats
@thedepresseddog6035
@thedepresseddog6035 Күн бұрын
@@puncho8799 cap. Why is longevity considered a negative now? Outside of Jordan and the bulls winning 2 more championship and jordan winning 1 mvp more than lebron. That alone doesn't provide any context on how good either player was. I think bron better, you think Jordan better. That doesn't doesn't mean either of us is right, it's just opinions and biases based on play style preferences.
@shazebahmed0704
@shazebahmed0704 2 күн бұрын
Paolo is better than wemby
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports Күн бұрын
lol
@PlayersChoiceShow
@PlayersChoiceShow Күн бұрын
@shazebahmed0704
@shazebahmed0704 Күн бұрын
@MarzTalksSports it’s true I’m being serious Paolo when healthy is a better player than wemby
@shazebahmed0704
@shazebahmed0704 Күн бұрын
@@PlayersChoiceShow 😂✅
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
I 100% agree with this statement. I was gunna say it earlier but I got sidetracked lol
@SamGibson-bn1jh
@SamGibson-bn1jh 2 күн бұрын
Kings 4-0 since firing hilter 2.0
@Vellnothingelse
@Vellnothingelse Күн бұрын
Yo hitler is INSANE 😂😂😂
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
#TheBeamWillLightAgain
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 Күн бұрын
Ox kind of proved why Lebron is the GOAT… look how weird he got when he found out Lebron broke that record … he did it in like 2k less shots and shot better … like when did we get upset at that ?
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia Күн бұрын
You think I just found out he broke the record on the show?
@darealscottsummerz
@darealscottsummerz Күн бұрын
What difference does it make if you have all these so called great players doing all these great things if no one is watching? Watching every team throw up 50 to 60 3s a game is not a good thing 🫤
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