The MOST CONTROVERSIAL Kevin Durant Debate EVER on The Panel

[@lilstuc44]

I know y’all hate kd. But goddamn yo

[@MOE__]

This is insane Ron hating on KD

[@penkima4923]

Not sure who Ron is, but that dude in the white t-shirt gave a good list. No hate there.

[@spidaxs1204]

None of them are wearing a white T

[@penkima4923]

@@spidaxs1204 No? Well, the dude in the top middle. Whatever he's wearing.

[@daevonthesavage7483]

​@@penkima4923 The one in the white shirt is Ron

[@wisethabrain1100]

Or just facts...all those players won a chip...KD was handed one

[@GXprogamer]

Ron is the biggest Westbrook fan thats why he keeps hating KD, he'd rather be a fan of a player who never won a playoff series on his own rather than respect a guy who made the Finals as a leader

[@eeph4eva]

You mean he'd rather be a fan of a player who shows up to play every single game and gives you his 100% rather than a player who bandwagoned his way to two chips and checks out mentally when he stops liking his teammates? I mean obviously kd is better but it's not that farfetched to like russ more.

[@RonTheeDon]

What series did KD win on his own? 🤔🤔

[@lorddj9910]

@@RonTheeDonWhat series did Russ win on his own? Especially when after KD left?

[@jxmmykriminallive]

@@lorddj9910 neither of them have won a playoff series in their own idk why that would even be part of the argument

[@EastSideRudeBoy]

I dunno about winning it on his own but it was clear as day that KD was the best player on that team for those Finals series with GS, he didn't win Finals MVP back to back by bandwagoning ​@@RonTheeDon

[@thund3r682]

Ron logic makes no sense , if you are comparing the best version of a player individually , Arguments disqualifying him based on who he had on his team make no sense since you are comparing player for player. Put Kawhi on pistons and Put KD on jazz dont matter compare them PLAYER FOR PLAYER.

[@kobesan42]

It matters I don’t see why it doesn’t. Almost any star looks extremely better besides klay and Steph especially iso scorers and shooters

[@split_head_776]

​@kobesan42 Wiggins was a super bust before he got there. With the Warriors, it was the first time in his career he looked like a #1 pick.

[@scrapcuz8370]

It definitely matter who u play with

[@L.L.TB8]

😒☹️ Ron just be yapping.

[@youngbossman601]

Mfs really sleep on DWade frfr

[@split_head_776]

Ron turned into a prime Gordon Ramsey at the end there.

[@GXprogamer]

Dwyane Wade defeated Kevin Durant by having a prime Lebron james by his side Kawhi leonard defeated Kevin Durant by taking advantage of KD's and Klay's injuries in the Finals Giannis defeated Kevin Durant by taking advantage of Kyrie's and Harden's injuries Funny how that goes......

[@mr.denzelsausageton9719]

OK ?

[@GXprogamer]

@@mr.denzelsausageton9719 In Fair circumstances, its hard to beat KD in Playoffs

[@Jolteon1989]

and the only way Durant can win is by joining a 73-9 player with the unanimous MVP he choked to.

[@MLC719]

Kd blew a 3-1 lead with Russ and harden on his team

[@VinnieRodrigues0]

@@MLC719with harden on the team?? You don’t even know ball 😭😭😭 buddy wasn’t even on the squad in 2016

[@rayb.466]

Ox trolling be pissing me off man 😂😂😂

[@BigRichxYT]

“I haven’t heard you cook like this in a minute Ron” like come on Ox wtf lmaooo

[@rayb.466]

@ Bruh just be egging the shit on like lmfaooooo

[@BIGOXMedia]

Lol I’m not trolling. Bro was legit cooking 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Faaababaa]

@@BIGOXMedianeed more of this! you and Ron are right

[@lazcappinhard7429]

@@BIGOXMediacrazy ash

[@ramboE-uz9uv]

Why was steph curry the first name to get push back from the panel? Steph has done more without kd than the other way around

[@split_head_776]

Hesi-tween middy got them in shambles. Give KD that 22 Warriors team and he's immediately asking for a trade

[@AdamEdn]

Aren’t they arguing who is better at basketball overall?

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

@@split_head_776 KD is winning that chip in 2022 with that warriors team also. Stop the cap

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

He’s STILL not better kid

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

​@@split_head_776 bro what???? Bro you dudes are insane.

[@VinnieRodrigues0]

We need to ban Ron from speaking basketball for a year after this despicable take

[@slimdreamchaser]

Shout out to drugs, they’ve been taking over the world is a bar 😂

[@wisethabrain1100]

Curry thought's : I beat u in WCF...u join my team...I have more MVPS and rings and we played in the same era 😂😂😂...Kd fans will be KD fans

[@brandonahmed5859]

Ron is absolutely spitting bro. No lies told. I been saying for a long time now Dwade>KD. Kevin is a better scorer yes, but Dwade is the better basketball player

[@thegoldenhero]

Nah, KD is better than Wade. Wade was more injury prone and had a shorter prime than KD and peak for peak they are on the same level, so you favor the guy who was elite longer, which is KD.

[@JuwanJordan-dp5wq]

But KD is top 10 all time. Why would he not be listed top 10 since 2000s 😂😂😂 this dude gotta learn basketball

[@penkima4923]

Same reason that you say he's a top-10 player all time. Most people disagree, but he's still on your list.

[@wisethabrain1100]

U have to atleast lead a team to "1" chip if your top 10 all time

[@NahshonMark]

He Spittin!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥 good ass list. This man is cookin this whole video

[@ishmaelsingleton6099]

Ron should just stick to reading super chats

[@ammonf5981]

🤣🤣🤣

[@imherissue]

he can barely read

[@strivingforthekingdoment.2303]

He said the best,not all time.all those names are valid even if you disagree

[@gpearce11]

Not all-time, sure, but he did specify "since 2000," which means that we are actually talking about over an extended period.

[@Lexio3031]

Ron thinks he’s cooking, and nobody is telling him the stove is off!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ant_boy_spice4400]

Ron was cooking at minute 24 on 🔥🔥 KD has had elite talent every year to be failing 24/7

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

That “elite talent” more then half of them was injured you goof

[@zbt62]

same with LeBron tho💀💀💀 and that man lost 6 nba finals

[@FreshyRosay1]

This is the biggest cooking Ron has done on the show. KD might be better than some of these guys, but to act like there’s no conversation is just wrong. We need more of this from Ron. 😂

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

Can you prove it that those guys are better then kd?

[@kingad8869]

​@Ghost-rb6cw KD is a Westbrook and Curry merchant. Ain't seen a conference final since 2018.

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

@@kingad8869 has either guys made it to a conference finals without kd?

[@FlexileLoner0440]

@@Ghost-rb6cwhow does Curry win finals mvp without going to the conference finals?

[@jetsettech8804]

​@@Ghost-rb6cwyou do realize curry has won a championship since kd left, right? You still have time to delete your comment.

[@simba4592]

At this point, Hating KD and disrespecting him has become the norm. When players in your own list would tell you Kd is better you are a hater

[@SHAKE-S-PIERRE]

Ron got in his bag at the end😂😂

[@soolthegreat1581]

Let Ron cook!!!🔥🔥🔥

[@lucienetienne5164]

From 2000-2024 1. Shaq 2. Kobe 3. Tim Duncan 4. Lebron James 5. KD 6. KG 7. Steph Curry 8. Dirk 9. Nikola jokic 10. Giannis

[@cro4255]

The games matter, kd can't be above Curry. Come on

[@MarzTalksSports]

ew

[@ttmho96]

U can't have KD over Steph.

[@practiceyourart]

You put KG and KD over Steph? Follow another sport 😂

[@Jolteon1989]

@@lucienetienne5164 Duncan is over Shaq and Kobe

[@lot3530]

KD with booker and Beal got swept by anthony Edwards wolves

[@RedworcAim]

Ron is actually right I just think he’s not explaining is point clearly. People need to understand the difference between Being (Talented and Skilled) vs being (GREAT) . Being great is when a talented person uses their skills and their will to have huge success. KD is a Top ten talent all time but he definitely underachieved in his career , if he doesn’t go to GS his career lines right up with harden and Westbrook 😂. Those 10 players he named all had GREATER careers than KD because they had more success from their talents as individuals. I tell people all the time Lebron is the most talented and skilled player ever but his career was not as great as MJs 🎯

[@ItsAllLaughsAm]

I’m not mad at Ron for feeling like this not saying I agree or disagree but I can understand it

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

This is one of the worst takes in the history of history

[@Dologaming24]

I agree with Ron 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@VinnieRodrigues0]

This is a braindead take

[@Dologaming24]

@ peak Wade Is better than KD at everything except shooting, literally EVERYTHING.

[@zayishim3361]

Well your also wrong

[@thegoldenhero]

​@Dologaming24 you can make this same stupid argument with Curry 😆

[@TheJinglejob]

Click bait in the title worked lol why am I here 😅

[@penkima4923]

How is it a clickbait?

[@ianmaxwell1282]

the yappetry from ron is crazy

[@Stonecoldalston]

2:45 give me curry over KD

[@basketballboygenius2034]

It’s Krazy how many ppl are not comprehending what he’s saying.

[@melorileytv3408]

I seen kd win a mvp with Perkins averaging 2ppg as his starting center Westbrook missed time so did ibaka kd was on court with collison and Perkins at times and also Andre Roberson and a young Reggie Jackson kd led them to a top seed with that roster cmon man kd that dude

[@GXprogamer]

D wade has never reached a conference finals without an All-NBA 1st team Teammate, HOW IS HE BETTER THAN KD??? Ron is just biased

[@ekb0106]

2006 when he won his first ring?

[@GXprogamer]

@@ekb0106 yeah even that year he had a 1st team teammate

[@Don-Royall]

​@@ekb0106you cannot read

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

​@@ekb0106 Shaq made 1st team in 06'

[@mr.denzelsausageton9719]

Neither did KD

[@ballinphil3025]

I agree with ron

[@oddfellow7510]

Ron is making perfect sense. In the last 20 years how many players(at their peak) would you take over Kevin Durant. It’s not a box score, stat nerd type of conversation. Ron is cookin

[@michaelbarrett8379]

Even though i dont agree with the KD take, theres nothing wrong taking a single season when they was the best version and matching it up together its really simple.

[@smike7309]

Watching this live was actually insane, the way he didn’t specify greatest from best until halfway through was nasty

[@ZZ-ex8py]

1. Lebron 2012-2013 2. Shaq 2000-2001 3. Garnett 2004-2005 4. Duncan 2002-2003 5. Curry 2017-2018 6. Jokic 2023-2024 7. Kobe 2006-2008 8. Giannis 2021-2022 9. Durant 2016-2017 10. Wade 2009-2010 11. Nash 2005-2007

[@fmb5trel510]

ladies and gentlemen this is prime ron and i’m not talkin artest

[@AdamEdn]

Because comparatively even Artest’s sense of judgement wouldn’t allow him to crash out this badly 😂

[@penkima4923]

@@AdamEdn Artest has given wilder takes.

[@AdamEdn]

@@penkima4923 the malice at the palace was more reasonable than this 😂

[@penkima4923]

@@AdamEdn Heh. That's a funny take, but the malice at the palace was also more reasonable than Artest's top-lists. He has Kyrie as the 4th greatest player all time, over LeBron who's 5th.

[@christianmensah2940]

Ron cooked!!!!

[@Shogunree]

COOK RON

[@anthoniegriffin]

Nah when he said Dwade carried Bron and Shaq I almost cut TS off😂😂😂 23:38

[@bhdevin]

Don't let KD see this on his burner. 🤣🤣

[@nazoflove]

He only brought up their peaks when he got to Kawhi...he moved the hell out the goal post...04 Garnett over KD is ridiculous

[@Shogunree]

I’m actually rocking with Ron. He was cooking on this

[@mr.getrighhttt3433]

KD has zero championships without being on a team of 4 other potential HOF players. I feel like a lot of these guys value stats and analytics more so than results, and that’s why Ron is cooking.

[@kambuibomani231]

And you value chips without help which many of these dudes on this list don’t have lmaooo

[@mr.getrighhttt3433]

@ yeah I value a guy whose play translates to winning, which is the point of the sport btw. All rings aren’t equal.

[@NuisenceTV]

At first I wasnt rollin with Ron at all. I thought he was talking crazy. But by the end of the video Rob was lowkey cookin lol.

[@BIGOXMedia]

That’s how I felt as well. He really persuaded me

[@RadellPPB]

Ron cooked the Panel

[@MarzTalksSports]

here go radell

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

He didn’t cook nothing

[@ekb0106]

This list is debatable for sure, but its NOT insane though lol

[@melorileytv3408]

Yes it is u better go check kd resume

[@VinnieRodrigues0]

This list is egregious

[@penkima4923]

@@melorileytv3408 KD doesn't have a resume that great compared to the ten others.

[@melorileytv3408]

@ kd has 43 total accolades curry has 35 jokic has 17 total giannis has 31 total wade has 30 total kg has 45 total so break down how kd don’t have the accolades when he has more then everybody I named besides Garnett make it make sense kd has better stats than everybody on this list besides lebron and kobe literally he has better and longer longevity than everybody on this list besides lebron and he has more accolades than most of this list so your wrong buddy

[@penkima4923]

​@@melorileytv3408 KD has won 1 MVP, and 4 scoring titles. His rings and FMVPs as a Warrior don't really count that much. That's not an awfully good resume, in this crowd.

[@SnoTheBigFish]

I agree with (peak) Jokic over (peak) Durant

[@thekiller3475]

arguing against steph when it comes to kd is pointless

[@cantbecanceledpodcast]

Ron right in my book. That’s just cause I don’t like KD no logic!

[@kendricbaines2415]

Too many people trying to be controversial just for the sake of being controversial lol.

[@marcelsansalone3829]

@26:00 - 27:45 THIS MAN RON COOKIN HERE THOUGH 🤣 Granted he was fumbling the bag for the first 20 minutes of the vid but i like this. "Picking players like Women pick their Ideal man" IS A BARRRRRR 😂🤣

[@xavierb9061]

Dissing kd is like girls doing onlyfans..easy content.

[@BIGOXMedia]

Actually it’s very time consuming to make good money doing OF content. It’s not as easy as you might think 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kjjr3270]

Kevin Garnett and Kawhi over KD since 2000 is just crazy. But tbf i really thought the list would be CRAZY disrespectful, but it really isn't. But 1 MVP and 2 FMVPs, while being the best scorer of his time and averaging 27+ ppg is insane. There just weren't 10 players better than him in this time. Edit: Ron is outta his damn mind 😂. Also just going peak for peak doesnt make any sense, especially in this conversations. Longevity is what setting great players from good players apart. Also using Kawhis "two way" ability as an argument here ain't fair, cause using Rons logic Kawhi prolly the best player since 2000.

[@penkima4923]

KG and Kawhi over KD definitely isn't crazy. As you said yourself, Kawhi has an argument of being the best player of the 2000's. KD doesn't have particularly good longevity.

[@JuwanJordan-dp5wq]

These guys shouldn't talk basketball until they learn how to play

[@CalebPorch]

Well Ron and chill do so 😂

[@BIGOXMedia]

You play ball bro?

[@CalebPorch]

@@BIGOXMedia I forgot ox can coach too😂

[@bobross4616]

1:50 that just made Chill the goat lmao

[@agentprimetime5959]

Gotta stop giving everybody a microphone 😂

[@nicobennett5577]

Ron logic is wrong but since 2000 here are the guys that have been the undisputed best guys on a title team Shaq Duncan KG Kobe Dirk LeBron Curry Kawhi Giannis Jokic That’s ten guys. KD never held the belt solo, him and curry held it together

[@drewes3115]

Ox is funny as hell😂😂😂😂

[@elimullen9864]

D Wade definitely not … Giannis no … Kawhi you can argue but no … KG you can also argue

[@JayySquueeze]

The best version of KD would give everyone on Ron’s list 30 on 50/40/90 splits, just stop

[@mr.getrighhttt3433]

@@JayySquueeze and still not win a damn thing

[@JayySquueeze]

@@mr.getrighhttt3433 yeah okay, still don’t make the other players better then him

[@mr.getrighhttt3433]

@@JayySquueeze actually if one player wins with less help, he is better.

[@smgyro1476]

The Giannis disrespect has to stop. He's absolutely in the argument to be better than KD, including today, maybe even especially today. That being said, there is too much KD disrespect

[@Stonecoldalston]

1:12 since 2000 let me see Kobe Lebron Shaq Duncan Curry Jokic KG Every one else is debatable

[@roderickhclouden5107]

The panel except for Chill ....claimed KD rings 💍 n GSW wasn't the end all be all. Yet that's exactly what gives his case any significant air among the elite. Again the panel inconsistent on KD. Let alone Kyrie. Offensive glazing

[@RampageYI]

He cooked lowkey. I wasn't even thinking about wade, jokic, giannis, garnett or kawhi. I was tryna figure out who he would name after the first 5.

[@rocket6616]

KD is a buss rider

[@123Bsmoove]

Ron lowkey spitting 😂😂

[@ghostglock]

no bs😂😂💯

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

Once you take out guys like MJ, Bron, Kareem, Russell, and Bird...There aren't 10 players better than KD since 2000. I'm taking 2017 KD over most guys in the last 25 years. He's more than just buckets. He's a solid passer, good playmaker, and a very good defender in his peak. Kawhi, Wade, Giannis, etc...They not messing with peak KD

[@melorileytv3408]

Preach that dude mfs better go look at his resume and stats

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

I think they’re all close to him in terms of peak but he beats ALL of them in terms of longevity.

[@penkima4923]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing Nearly everyone on the list played a more healthy career then KD. KD has been a relevant player for a long time, but his true prime wasn't exceptionally long.

[@penkima4923]

Kawhi's peak was better than KD's.

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

@penkima4923 cap. Kawhi's offense and defense peaked at different times. He was his best defensively in San Antonio when his offense was mediocre. And he was at his peak offensively on the Clippers but his defense went from all-time elite to just great.

[@apexra4206]

I honestly a better argument to say he's better than those ten you named

[@ChrisJones-cn1ew]

The facts of who KD has played for and been coached by in comparison to other players has to matter. KD is elite but just simply going off of the “he’s efficient”, “he’s a scorer”, etc shouldn’t override other great players too. Career wise I would take all of the players Ron listed. Player for player wise I’d take everyone Ron listed accept for Giannis.

[@AdamEdn]

I have never missed Ticket interrupting and crashing out more than the moment Ron tried to argue that foolishness 😂

[@Matthew-xl5bc]

Ticket isn't a big KD supporter. He would of probably agreed with Ron

[@rocket6616]

Ron they can’t touch you on this one!!! Offense minded KD is one of the best- but the rest of his game is suspect for a 7ft guy Facts 😮

[@lot3530]

Ngl, Ron cooking. He could've added Dirk too

[@matthewwright-q1c]

The kd disrespect gotta stop

[@louischuck8141]

What I agree on is I don’t think Kd can lead a team to a championship & everybody on his list can

[@penkima4923]

Ironically, Giannis couldn't lead his team to a championship versus the KD-Nets, so he was forced to put Kyrie on the injury-list to beat them. With Kyrie and Harden out, KD nearly soloed the fully healthy Bucks, but only nearly. KD is pretty obviously the better player and the better leader than Giannis.

[@mikeg8234]

KG couldn't make playoffs 3 years straight till he joined Boston.

[@Mike-bx4gg]

This was the biggwest yap session by Ron to date ngl....🤦🏾‍♀🤦🏾‍♀

[@ianclark2785]

Imagine if Del was here when he said this

[@roronoaDzoro1111]

keep spitting ron

[@DonnyDoomz91]

Kd had Brooklyn nets 1 seed when Harden was injured and Kyrie couldn’t play. Then harden left. KD was playing with Cam Thomas, Jeff Green and David Duke jr. Went 7 games with bucks by himself. His second best player was a finished lamarcus Aldridge. Please stop. Conversations around Kd are so disingenuous.

[@etherionoon]

I need to get on this panel when kd convos come up because this shit is CRAXY asl!! Kd is actually top 5 all time

[@BIGOXMedia]

KD being top 5 all time is by far crazier than anything Ron said in this clip

[@penkima4923]

I kinda support that, because KD doesn't essentially have a legit ring. I can't say he's in my top-5, though.

[@factsonly6903]

Ron COOKED!!!

[@Jdot585]

Naaa Ron cooking i agree with him actually once he explained it

[@hkbessieford851]

Lmao this platform just be hating on KD man

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

This is disgusting 80% of the players he named that was “help” for KD wasn’t even healthy and injured . How tf can they be considered help if they never PLAYED ! Fire Ron from the podcast he’s the worst member on the pod ! He’s unbearable !

[@factsonly6903]

Swiper buggin. NO version is KD is better than Kobe.

[@slimdreamchaser]

Did no one hear Ox say “Ron must’ve drunk hydrogen peroxide 😂😂😂”. After Ron said his blasphemous KD statement or I am just crazy.

[@MikeLowrry]

KDs disrespect is INSANE ‼️‼️‼️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@penkima4923]

You used 6 red exclamation marks, so the disrespect probably isn't insane.

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

Btw, let me adress the kevin Durant is a horrible defender narrative. First of all kd was never put in a situation where he had that responsibility, there was always a great defender to take up that responsibility.

[@A1since]

Shoutuout drugs 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tariothompson268]

So curry won before Kd and after Kd and Kd ain’t won yet

[@MarzTalksSports]

Octupus have 3 hearts. I thought id join u in saying irrelevant things for the sake of it

[@xavierb9061]

Kd made finals b4 curry..lost to lebron big 3..curry beat injured lebron team..lost to bron big3. Your argument goofy.

[@brandonlane4525]

​@@xavierb9061while also being injured goofy.

[@MLC719]

@@xavierb9061curry still won after kd left kd hasn’t done shit and has had some the best players in league on his team

[@split_head_776]

​@xavierb9061 LeBron beat the baby Thunder, an injured Warriors with the Draymond stimulus, and an injured Miami in the bubble. Talk about it

[@awc6007]

Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, LeBron, Steph. That’s it, sorry D-Wade and KG but KD better.

[@SuzukaLova]

Mars why do you let this happen man i blame you

[@tannyamaya5783]

The hate on KD is real and stupid KD is the best pure score of all time period

[@brando405okc]

Dwayne Wade literally played with arguably the best player in NBA history lol tf is Ron talking about

[@MLC719]

Dwayne wade won before lebron

[@brando405okc]

@ so that makes him better??

[@MLC719]

@@brando405okcyes kd literally had superteams and some of the best players in the league and hasn’t won shit he’s a better scorer than Dwayne that’s it

[@ojoj5194]

@@MLC719 lets make 1vs1 kd would kill ur best player

[@MLC719]

⁠@@ojoj5194being better 1v1 doesn’t make u better it’s a team sport

[@VonKappallot]

Since 2000 kobe bron duncan shaq curry dwade jokic giannis kawhi garnett Its an easy list tbh. anyone who doesnt think curry is better than kd is only focused on the fact that kd is 7ft and dark skin and curry is a small light skin in under armor.

[@MarzTalksSports]

Lol bro said KD>steph has to be racist

[@Don-Royall]

KD is far better than Curry

[@VonKappallot]

@@MarzTalksSports Didnt say it was racist. its based on first impressions

[@VonKappallot]

@@Don-Royall Nah its not even close and hasnt been for a long while. yall tried the same thing with the lebron vs kd "rivalry"

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@VonKappallot im just making a joke brother

[@jrob830]

2016 okc beat the spurs 4-2

[@adeadele-nz6xt]

They dont watch ball . They just come on here to disrespect KD .

[@RonTheeDon]

That’s not Kawhi at his best NumbNuts

[@antthefinesser538]

@@RonTheeDonhave that boy kawhi 40 2 games straight and packed him