Warriors Spoil Klay's Return to the Bay | The Panel

[@hellcatsaymeow2095]

someone remind ox that this is a basketball debate show

[@LAking-hg5yc]

Curry is 36 why y’all keep saying he’s 38 lmao adding years to that man life

[@Natax99Final]

They are so scared he can surpass Magic, they want him to retire now.

[@yetundeadeyemi2436]

They do the same with LeBron to uplift him

[@stevena.6760]

​@@Natax99FinalHe alr surpassed Magic tho...

[@bigmo3692]

Asking Marz to be objective about Embiid is like asking Radell to be objective about Luka Doncic

[@MarzTalksSports]

what did i say that wasnt objective? hes not in shape. hes not gonna play back to backs. phillys plan is probably not going to work. embiid wants to play basketball. what did i say that wasnt objective?

[@dukebaylocks]

🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣

[@djmbenga3517]

Still making excuses for Embiid in year 12 lol

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Ron saying, "I've never heard anybody say they wanna die" is crazy

[@1Buddie.]

😂😂

[@MarzTalksSports]

anyone saying theyd still go to work everyday if their paycheck was guaranteed regardless (especially if it was 50 million dollars) is a straight up liar

[@saadiwaadi8570]

Isn’t the panel technically your work? You wouldn’t do this everyday if you got 50ms?

[@l3gendarysage293]

It depends on the person and job not everyone hate their job because it’s not fun some jobs are just underpaid and stressful but there are those who enjoy doing what they do so it isn’t ridiculous to say

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Gotta believe in the good of humanity, it's a beautiful thing.

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@saadiwaadi8570 Absolutely not

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@l3gendarysage293 even if they enjoy their job they wouldnt go every day,family events all of a sudden would take priority,things that normally would have to wait wouldnt have to anymore. its simple more money=more freedom. one thing u cant buy is time so people always will prioritise how they spend their time when they can afford to do so.

[@dominicktv4415]

I hate when Ox get mad bcuz people disagree with his narrative then he start this sassy crying shit

[@bigjuan1155]

Yo ain’t lying 😂😂😂😂😂

[@BIGOXMedia]

Image getting off to watching grown men argue. Lol yall got some crazy kinks

[@BIGOXMedia]

You care a whole lot more than I did. Ay when you say sassy do you snap your fingers and do the whole lil neck thing like a female? 😂😂😂

[@justinjohnson861]

I noticed that too lmaoo

[@Jackboy_dre152]

Sometimes Ox Just Be Yappin

[@marleycoldburr]

I know some people that even if their paycheck was guaranteed they still wouldn’t be there for their kids 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@marleycoldburr shoutout to them

[@mb01031]

Ox is a big ass baby it’s crazy how you always talking abt being a man but stay in his feelings 😂😂😂😂 shit be crazy

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

I didn't realize people didn't understand what a NBA dynasty was in 2024. To be classified as a dynasty you have to win at least 3 championships in 5 years. It's all about winning titles in a short time span. The Spurs were not a "dynasty" in the 2010's. Once you go a few years without winning your dynasty run has ended. After 2007 it took the Spurs 7 years to win again. That 2014 chip is NOT apart of their dynasty. Idk why Ron and Chill kept saying they were dominating for 20 years. That dynasty started in 03' and ended in 07'. In what world are you a better dynasty than a team that wins more than you? The 2015-2019 Warriors, The Showtime Lakers, The 90's Bulls, The 60's Celtics, and the Three-peat Lakers are all better than the Spurs.

[@teal2913]

Who created the rule that it has to be 3 chips in 5 years? Did Adam Silver implement that rule or something

[@DontPxtch-Me]

@@teal2913it’s a common occurrence hence it being the “rule” there obviously isn’t a “rule” to be considered a dynasty

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

@teal2913 the world did considering they came up with the term relative to sports. Most teams that are considered a dynasty fit that criteria. The heatles won 2 in 4 years, went to the finals 4 seasons straight. Yet, most people don't consider the big 3 Miami heat a dynasty. Why? Because they didn't get that 3rd ring.

[@RonTheeDon]

Clearly you didn’t hear my definition of what a dynasty is. Rewatch the video and learn something kid.

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

@RonTheeDon kid? Im 27. I'll go back and rewatch just for you. Then respond afterwards

[@mom3ntousjatt]

Man chill is aging in front of our eyes this year. The fact you can even argue bulls dynasty vs spurs is insane

[@brentbrigham7243]

😂😂😂 chill on chill bro

[@xavierjohnson4496]

Ox is bugging about the warriors bench guys...melton is a perfect 2 way gaurd in today's game. Gp2 is a lock down defender at the point of attack and plays well off steph in the pick and roll game and his short roll playmaking is valuable as well And moody is a level below them guys but would be a good rotation guy for basiclaly every team in the NBA.

[@tayluc777]

Facts them boys protect Curry weaknesses well

[@InnGee]

chilltown be showing his age the way how he treat lamelo shit is genuinely hilarious, he truly hates how that man plays the game 🤣🤣

[@edmondwilliamsjr.8469]

It’s hurting his team, I’m 25 and hate his play style too 🤣 every thing has to be a highlight with him

[@InnGee]

@ bro his shot selection do be pissing me off! but i think the hornets would be winless without him

[@trytv7716]

⁠@@InnGeenot think they would 100 % be 0-11

[@InnGee]

@ maybe the toronto game, thats about it.

[@brycesmoov3313]

@@edmondwilliamsjr.8469it’s hurting his team? It’s melo and miller vs the the world he’s the only positive player on the team stop it

[@remnant8898]

Kd has got book and Beal, and yall talking about mvp? Steph's got wiggins who everyone passed on, and a bunch of very smart role players. What're we doing here?

[@Vellnothingelse]

Yet they’re 3-0 without Steph this year

[@MarzTalksSports]

those role players 3-0 without steph. one day youll stop assessing teams as stars on paper. until then well hear nonsense like this

[@remnant8898]

@@MarzTalksSports KD has 2 other Franchise level/all star players, along with quality role players on his team. The idea that he's an MVP candidate with that level of assistance over Steph who's got a very good roster (imo) in his own right, and who thought they wouldn't be good at this point is asinine. If you think those role players would be able to sustain that level of success without Steph, then you don't know basketball as you think you do.

[@remnant8898]

@@Vellnothingelse Cool, they stepped up to win. Your point? If you think they would have a winning record without Steph , then you're tripping.

[@MarzTalksSports]

@ theyre 3-0 without him and the suns is 1-2 with all that help

[@MOE__]

Marz was cooking on that Warriors dynasty debate

[@fentanyljones6956]

You have to look at the Warriors 15 years back from their most recent chip to compare it to San Antonio’s run.

[@nykareem2001]

We just gonna forget Marz said Warriors would be trash this year?

[@MarzTalksSports]

noones forgot it

[@susky5840]

@@MarzTalksSportsmarz you think our offense is sustainable? Cuz idk how we’re top 3 in offense when steph missed 3 games and he ain’t even been scintillating this season. I genuinely don’t get it.

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@susky5840no but ive already been wrong ab u guys so it probably is

[@BIGOXMedia]

@@nykareem2001 Give it some time they will 100% be mid this season

[@remnant8898]

​@BIGOXMedia, yeah, you said that in 22 as well, and we know how that turned out..

[@ronduece9066]

I don't understand how y'all be making these definitive takes and what y'all base them off of. The lack of size may hurt the Warriors in the playoffs, but to completely write them off from the playoffs just shows the lack of nuance or just not paying attention to basic things. They have defensive versatility and enough shooting to win plenty games

[@remnant8898]

They don't know what they're talking about, and their bias tends to get the better of them. The Warriors had lack of size in 2022, and won a chip. They currently lead the league in rebounds.

[@lepidoptery]

​@@remnant8898 they're leading in raw numbers of rebounds per game, but the advanced stats show them as a great (not the best) oreb team, a kind of poor dreb team, and a good overall rebounding team. i think they get the high raw overall numbers because their pace is on the higher side and their defense is good and causes misses, so there's more potential drebs available even if they aren't the best at getting them. (they are genuinely great at orebs, though, thanks looney!)

[@remnant8898]

@@lepidoptery let's ignore the raw numbers for a minute, and focus on averages which is more important. They are ranked 2nd in offensive Rebounds per game, 7th in defensive boards per game and 2nd overall. That's phenomenal.

[@lepidoptery]

@@remnant8898 averages are the raw numbers, though. advanced stats for rebounds is just oreb%, dreb%, and reb%, ie. what % of available orebs/drebs/rebs do they actually get. as of 11/14/24 before the grizzlies game they're 7th/23rd/10th respectively, so like i said, great(ish) at oreb, kind of bad at dreb, and overall good. they presumably average high numbers (outside of the oreb end) because their pace is highish and their defense is good so their opponents miss, and thus there are more drebs available to try to get. oh, also on the oreb end, aside from being good at getting them, they don't get many foul calls, so fga remain fga and there are more oreb available to get. 😑

[@remnant8898]

@@lepidoptery Advanced stats in this regard are irrelevant. Most teams in the top 10 in dreb % have a losing record, and the one's that don't are barely over 500. Whatever your pace is, if you are outrebounding your opponent, offensively and defensively, you've got a high probability of winning.

[@kendrickjenkins96]

Marz was cooking during that worker segment lmao

[@dubbdizzy1]

Marz like 3-11 shooting the water bottle in that trash can

[@MarzTalksSports]

i made it today

[@dubbdizzy1]

@@MarzTalksSports 4-12 33.3% w mathsketball 🔥

[@ceero4842]

Cobra son of Raditz gotta be the biggest supporter of the panel 💯

[@saadiwaadi8570]

Using Ron’s own logic in the dynasty debate, why doesn’t he think lebron is the goat?

[@remnant8898]

Wait, he does? Oh, he's really tripping.

[@Jesuspiece10]

I watched ep 7 of the panel the other day and Marz was talking about Dyson Daniels back then

[@MarzTalksSports]

damn throwback,u got a timestamp i can check out?

[@Jesuspiece10]

@@MarzTalksSports 51:02

[@MarzTalksSports]

@ 🔥🔥🔥🔥 thankyou

[@nati2swifty]

marz been cookin y’all man😭😭😭

[@nykareem2001]

Chill town been cooking with his predictions this year so far Rockets 5 seed? ✅ Cavs Top 3 seed? ✅ Chet being made of glass? ✅ Wemby being overrated? ✅

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Chilltown up right now I been noticing. I don't think he predicted Chet was made of glass though I think he just said he should move to the 4. And in fairness he was a 4 in preseason

[@Senseicjj]

Saying Chet is made of glass when we watched how he got injured is crazy

[@zuridurham3727]

He just gotta walk back Ant being a better defender than Draymond

[@itszaaaamzeh]

@zuridurham3727 that was NASTY lol

[@Shmooker-e1p]

Overrated? but he just dropped 50, I’ve seen enough Wemby is the goat✋🙂‍↕️🤚

[@kalimreece-peeplez3912]

Ron always uses hella adjectives to make his bad takes seem good😭 “Dazzle n Razzle”

[@RonTheeDon]

Nah, I was cooking with that 😂😂

[@392maal]

How is KD is the MVP convo with Booker on his team?

[@remnant8898]

Exactly. Dude has Booker AND Beal.

[@KMM5821]

Because look at their record without him

[@Andrew-un5jj]

its like listening to 6 year olds argue for an hour

[@Hoopsnev3rstop]

It always been a misconception about Klay that “he cant create for himself” but he actually can at a decent level he dont pat the rock like Harden or Kyrie but using 2 or 3 dribbles sometimes even 1 to get to your spot is actually creating for yourself

[@marcusfrm6263]

No he doesn’t

[@Hoopsnev3rstop]

@ He doesn’t wat?

[@remnant8898]

@@Hoopsnev3rstop doesn't create for himself. Not at a decent level that is.

[@Hoopsnev3rstop]

@@remnant8898 What is your definition of “creating for yourself”?

[@marcusfrm6263]

@@Hoopsnev3rstop can he get his own bucket? No he can’t

[@hjalmarskytnielsen9383]

Overtime doesn’t count in the in season tournament for point differential. Because then a team could just score in their own basket because they need OT to blow a team out.

[@PrinceDJj]

The person that Marz/Chill was talking about was me, because if I were told that I'm getting paid $50 million or $1,200 every two weeks just to sit at home, I would take that deal. That's why I'm in training now to become a wrestler, because I don't want to work for the rest of my life.

[@officerricky3230]

W show. W everyone

[@tayluc777]

21:48 facts Ox 😂 that’s because all they do is parrot Marz thoughts. I give Marz credit though he got a cult following, partially because he’s intelligent but he be saying dumb shit just like everyone else at times.

[@l3gendarysage293]

Saying people don’t have to go to work is crazy like do you expect people to just be homeless or not provide for themselves and family

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@l3gendarysage293 Who said 'people dont have to go to work'

[@l3gendarysage293]

@@MarzTalksSports chill did

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@l3gendarysage293 He old tho

[@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti]

Marz cooked on the dynasty talk ,,, ox is a clown as always he still mad about the kings losing to the lakers over 20 years ago

[@hjalmarskytnielsen9383]

Ron understand that there is no asterisk for being to good. That just makes the dynasty better.

[@remnant8898]

Imagine being annoyed because a player does what no one else can...

[@jediahhinkson1734]

Ron and ox be scared of a lil objectivity 😂😂

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

A dynasty has always been about championships idk wtf chill and Ron are talking about. You need to win 3 in at least 4 or 5 yrs stretch, 80s lakers, 90s Yankees, 10s warriors, like what are we doing here. I guess the bills are a dynasty too according to that logic

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

Aye Chill Project water the best water lol

[@WRLdPeAcE96]

Jokic has Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon kd has Beal and booker Jayson Tatum has talent on his team but they can be in the mvp talks but curry who has who😂 can’t be in the mvp talks yall opinions are hilarious

[@MarzTalksSports]

he can be in whatever talks he wants. he not the mvp

[@stablsed309]

Great show as usual but where's the talk on Cunningham? Pistons have to make a decision on him - he all but threw the game away with turnovers at the end. If he's not a primary ball handler, why keep forcing him into that role? It's atrocious.

[@MarzTalksSports]

we not worried ab cade

[@OccultMaster618]

Chill be cooking them clowns 😂

[@zuridurham3727]

98 Pacers vs 98 Jazz who y’all got and why?

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@zuridurham3727 jazz

[@zuridurham3727]

@@MarzTalksSports Pacers in 6 Jazz don’t have enough depth in my opinion, Pacers bench was serious

[@MarzTalksSports]

@ W

[@RonTheeDon]

2024 Pacers

[@remnant8898]

Yall desperately need time stamps

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

Focus Rawn 😂😂

[@Fab_rice95]

Ox i get it, once you made a point you dont want to argue about it. Since you guys have a debate Show, it'd be cool sometimes to ear your rational behind a point you make. All love tho I'm with Marz, why are we trying to act like the primarly criteria of a dynasty was/is not the amount and how fast Chips were won? And the magic number has always been 3. In the modern NBA they are top 5. But if you include all history, the spurs aint one.

[@BIGOXMedia]

I’m just not really into arguing. If I wanted to argue I got two baby mamas to choose from to do that with I just want to talk hoop. I already saw where that was going, no need for us to be yelling at each other when we know we will never come to any understanding.

[@Fab_rice95]

@BIGOXMedia fair enough

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@BIGOXMediau was forsure right i dragged that on longer than necessary and was definitely yellin for no reason

[@BIGOXMedia]

@@MarzTalksSports lol it turned out to be a little bit better of a convo than I expected but my pride wouldn’t let me jump back in 😂😂😂

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@BIGOXMedia Lmao gotta stand on business sometimes i get it

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Spurs dynasty been overrated. It's kinda like the Euro basketball is smarter argument. It's just one of those things that people feel nice and smart about. The Spurs don't have flash so they have to supplement it with this fundamental greatness. I'm on my Ticket shit but if you can't go BACK TO BACK that lessens your case.

[@remnant8898]

you win 4 chips in 8 years, that's a dynasty. There's nothing overrated about that. They won before the Shaq/Kobe dynasty started, then ended it by winning 3 more after it. the 80s Celtics didn't win back to back, and folks call their run a dynasty.

[@itszaaaamzeh]

@remnant8898 it's overrated because people think Lakers 5 chips in 10 years is incomparable, not that it's not a dynasty

[@remnant8898]

@@itszaaaamzeh There was only one Lakers dynasty, and that was the 3peat. The other two do not count into that because the Lakers had some years they didn't even make the playoffs, or were even contenders. And what the Spurs did is a great feat, because Tim didn't have another top 5 player on his squad like the 3peat Lakers did.

[@itszaaaamzeh]

@remnant8898 lmao this why the spurs overrated, man just said "can't be a dynasty cause they have 2 top 5 players" lool good talk

[@remnant8898]

@@itszaaaamzeh Bruh, your comprehension skills are lacking. I just said winning 4 out of 7 or even 3 out of 5 is a dynasty, which the Spurs accomplished. Read again slowly....

[@Tearholiday]

What time

[@Roc4297]

The thing I think was missed is that most people (the general population) doesn't work jobs that they want to do. The nba typically are these guys dream jobs and even a lot of crazy high paying jobs people typically wouldn't have any interest in it at all if not for the money

[@njreal8233]

Does ticket still do videos with y’all

[@LAking-hg5yc]

Ticket is not on the panel anymore he left months and months ago he has his own channel

[@MOE__]

It’s a good thing he left was to much of a crybaby plus he has his own show

[@njreal8233]

So the answer was simply no. You two obviously dislike him

[@MarzTalksSports]

nah

[@factsonly6903]

That Curry 3 at the end is what’s wrong with the league today and why Luka will never win a championship. No shade to Curry cuz he did what he’s supposed to do… but switching your PF/Center on a shot creating guard is poor basketball and a lack of effort in defense. We seen the same shit happen with Luka and Rudy last year and everybody coming at Rudy like he can really guard Luka on the perimeter… he has to fight over that screen and make Curry put the ball on the floor or pass. Leaving your big out in no man’s land is by far the worst thing… this switching hurts more cuz these superstars are lazy on defense these days…

[@ctrlawpdelete8266]

Luka is the only superstar that’s lazy on defense, Joel is good, jokic is average and isn’t lazy, Jt and shai are both elite, steph isn’t lazy and about average and still good off ball

[@factsonly6903]

@ I can agree. Maybe I shouldn’t have generalized superstars.. but a few of them are good for this knowing they’re leaving their big for dead… but you’re 100% right. I respect effort. Don’t have to be the best but give effort and try. He hugged Draymond and just sat there.

[@jrthehunter4309]

Marz, if the debate for the 5th spot is between the 2000 Lakers, Spurs, and Warriors, i do believe the Spurs are a top 5 dynasty and here's why: For the Lakers, I don't believe we would count the last 2 championships as part of the 2000 lakers Dynasty. The same way that we don't count 2017 as part of the Spurs dynasty, since Duncan was no longer there. The far and away best player who started the Dynasty during the Lakers 3 peat (Shaq) was gone. So its between the Spurs and Warriors. You mentioned the 73 win season (keep in mind, The Spurs were only 6 games behind that at 67 wins), but if you're going to mention those 73 wins, then you can't make points againsts the Spurs like "So they're a regular season dynasty" or "They're 5 for 20", since you agree that years you don't win the title can add to your Dynasties legacy IF you have a successful regular season. Not as much as a title, of course, but its certainly not as bad as "5 for 20" sounds.😂 That makes it sound like those 15 seasons were just "Misses", but the only true "Misses" would be missing the playoffs, which the Warriors did. That would be my argument 🤔

[@MarzTalksSports]

maybe i was too animated during the debate but im fine thinking the spurs are top 5 they do have a compelling case my disagreement was the notion that they are a shoe in to be top 5

[@Babydinomelll]

But the warriors only missed the playoffs with their best players hurt

[@matthewburke5044]

Ox you can't be this slow. Most people are lazy in general period. People aren't just showing up to work if the money is guaranteed regardless. It's common dam sense. Most people aren't half the people they think they are.

[@BIGOXMedia]

@@matthewburke5044 if you’re lazy then be lazy keep everyone else out of it

[@cri3ces.]

This was the best episode so far this new season if only it was just marz ox chill and ron all the time😔

[@BIGOXMedia]

@@cri3ces. I enjoy when Swipa, Pen, Jordan or any of the other fellas pop in but I definitely liked today’s episode.

[@l3gendarysage293]

@@cri3ces. rj Barrett episode was better that was some funny some

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@BIGOXMediaew i hate all of em

[@BIGOXMedia]

@ haha Marz you love all of us. Everybody knows it, we see through your cold exterior bro.

[@MarzTalksSports]

@ i can promise thats not true. i prefer some of u over the others tho forsure

[@Caraxes_RoguePrince]

Marz doing some nasty hating acting like kd not playing wit booker and beal lmfao

[@MarzTalksSports]

who did i hate on? based on ur comment im confused as to who ur calling me a hater of

[@Caraxes_RoguePrince]

@ you hating on Steph lol of course what Steph doing with his team is not the same as Kd teaming with a booker and Beal lol why not mention that when talking mvp? Come on fam

[@MarzTalksSports]

@ one day people will stop evaluating 'carrying' as solely offensive talent. the warriors are 3-0 without steph. they have the second best defense itl. steph is able to play damn near a career low in minutes. the team is playing really good. yes they dont have a booker or a beal but that doesnt mean KD isnt playing better or comparably. and me saying he is is definitely not hating.

[@Caraxes_RoguePrince]

@ oh so those 3 wins count when it’s used to go against Steph but at the same time you’ll argue that the warriors 9-2 record is mostly against trash teams? Come on fam lmfao Steph able to play a career low in minutes because they blowing teams out when he’s playing as well it’s not like it’s him on the bench and they just blowing teams out he’s playing a huge part in that if not his scoring still the attention he demands. Also let’s not act like you didn’t say the warriors would be trash so yes seems like you not crediting Steph at all you’ll rather talk more about him losing a step like the man didn’t just drop 37 and did carry them offensively no matter if you refuse to give him that credit when they defense couldn’t come up with a stop until late. I’m all for giving credit to defense but come on

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@Caraxes_RoguePrince yes the 3 wins count when a large part of the mvp case is golden states record. so ofcourse im gonna say 3 of their wins came without him. Yes hes playing so few minutes in part cos of how dominant they are with him on the court. its also cos of how deep the team is. yes hes been great offensively. hes also regressing. yes their defense is amazing. their offense has been too. nothing ur saying is anything i disagree with. hes still most definitely not the mvp and its dumb to act as if hes a tier above kd in any theoretical mvp race. Btw jokic is clearing everyone by a country mile in any 'mvp race' anyway

[@tayluc777]

I thought the Warriors would be bottom tier ngl, I have to stop doubting Wardell, also y’all favorite ball hog shot 27 times for 31 while Kyrie was 8-13 with 21 😂, I know, I know more excuses for his terrible play style.

[@abtocool6350]

There was really nothing kyrie can do to be honest, seems like chill watched the game because he was spot on. As soon as kyrie started to heat up in the 4th quarter they started blitzing him, shading hard, and doing whatever to get the ball out of his hands.

[@tayluc777]

@@abtocool6350he didn’t really need the ball until the 2 minute mark, they were still maintaining the lead with Gafford scoring, as soon as it failed they should’ve went right back to him, the miss by Klay from Kyrie pass was the only time they did that btw

[@abtocool6350]

@ they might have not doubled every time but they were definitely shading as help defender’s, I seen draymond or someone else shading towards kyrie multiple times as soon as kyrie looked like he wanted to score😂.

[@tayluc777]

@@abtocool6350Kyrie scores over that often, it’s just Klay was open lol, Melton underrated to me, always has been

[@abtocool6350]

@@tayluc777 Melton has always been a good player and defender. Him starting next to curry is huge because he’s guards the other teams best guard instead of curry, but if its a team like the Mavericks with a big guard like luka then Wiggins would guard him.

[@omariclarke2847]

I love the fact tha Marz wants all the smoke. Ox it's a debate show don't get in your feeling bruh

[@danieldoomwonder]

1:14:08 “SIXTY” 😂😂

[@adamup8516]

kyrie honestly been the mavs best player this season so far.

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

Money ain’t everything until IT IS don’t let that go over yall heads

[@BIGOXMedia]

It never is, never was and never will be

[@KoreymaliK]

What gets lost in all this is the Warriors won 46 fucking games last year. Draymond missed 25 of em. Wiggins missed 35 of em😂😂😂people be actin like the Warriors was gon be in the basement of the NBA

[@remnant8898]

facts. Won that much with all of the dysfunction going on with the team as well. Folks love narrative more than being objective.

[@tiredbasketballfan]

Agreed, but I think the Wiggins stat is from the 23 season. Last season he played, he just wasn't really there mentally

[@l3gendarysage293]

Some of the Tim Duncan overhype is getting ridiculous he’s the greatest pf still but we don’t gotta lie spurs winning 5 chips in 20 years is not a dynasty and how would they be over the Lakers who beat them multiple times in that same time span

[@jalemjones]

They beat them multiple times as well ?

[@l3gendarysage293]

@ no they didn’t spurs beat Lakers once in playoffs

[@remnant8898]

That's crazy. The Spurs winning 4 in 7 is a dynasty. That 5th was just the cherry on top.

[@remnant8898]

@@l3gendarysage293 They beat them twice. Swept them in 99, then ended their run in 2003.

[@l3gendarysage293]

@ didn’t even remember that series but lakers still beat them two more times

[@leonporter2625]

One person in a team game isn't a dynasty in my view.

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

OX you sleep on DeAnthony Melton lol

[@fentanyljones6956]

I think OT comes in if it’s a differential and win tie

[@fried_riceee]

Steph doesn't need to go fast every single time, he definitely shows it but in smaller stints compared to the prime days. When you're old you have to conserve your energy. He's playing the old man's game now. Same thing Lebron has been doing. Gotta pick your spots wisely.

[@ysnmoney]

Lakers 2000-2010 top 4 forsureeeee they 3 peated with 5 chips in 10 years

[@rashonduswashington4025]

Chill hate for Luka is hilarious ngl

[@BIGOXMedia]

At this point Luka probably hates himself. It’s just pitiful to be one of the top 7 players in the world and still be a BUUMMM

[@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti]

​@@BIGOXMediathis is why u a clown just like that losing team u support

[@danmosley4387]

Steph's defense has gotten noticeably better. Shots are still from the chef.

[@Hoopsnev3rstop]

Joel Embiid lack of playoff success is because of his playstyle not injury let’s be real here

[@MarzTalksSports]

i think both are contributing factors

[@Hoopsnev3rstop]

@ Injured or not the way he plays and specifically how he is used just isn’t a recipe for real success

[@MarzTalksSports]

@ i can agree w that,i still think theres multiple factors like with most things. i think thats one of em tho

[@Hoopsnev3rstop]

@@MarzTalksSports It is messed up he never had a real chance to show what he can do healthy though regardless of the outcome you never want players injured especially players that are as good as Embiid

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

@Marz just like you feel like Ron is discrediting the 50s & 60s you’re the doing the same thing with the Spurs.. you try to downplay and discredit damn near everything unless you agree then a lot of time when you’re wrong all of sudden you was “trolling” 😂

[@MarzTalksSports]

I think people should recognise when im trolling by now i shouldnt need to announce it

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

@@MarzTalksSports 😂😂😂😂 you full of 💩 but I fuck wit ya Marz

[@B4dafam]

He was right about the whole dynasty debate. The whole thing. The warriors won 4 rings in 8 years tho not 4 in 7. He was still right tho

[@remnant8898]

@@B4dafam 3 in 5 is still a dynasty.

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

Rudy Gobert has 4 DPOY Derrick Lively is in his 2nd year it’s not the same yall lol and yall know that

[@MarzTalksSports]

When dereck lively talkin ab some 'theres no reason rudy shouldve been on the floor' and then he gets the same thing done to him ima call that ironic

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

@@MarzTalksSportsDid not know he said all this with this new information I concur

[@shaneflannigan7919]

Draymond is maybe 6’6’

[@redpillproductions7187]

Draymond not even 6”7 6”8 Draymond 6”5

[@JJWAD]

I think draymonds wingspan is rly large tho relative to his height, right? Kinda like what made rondo a good defender, even tho he was 6’1

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

Marz face when Ron said “asses out” 😂😂

[@jordanwalker6819]

Marz am I trippin your reason for LeBron being the goat over Jordan is that in theory having someone play at that level for that long is better than having someone play at a similar or slightly higher level for longer. How would that not apply to the spurs ?is your argument that it’s not definitive?

[@MarzTalksSports]

A)my argument is yes its not definitive and B) i think individual player rankings and dynasty rankings dont follow the same criteria. C)Bill russell the goat

[@jordanwalker6819]

@ lol ok. But why is it different for players and teams? You consider the team when ranking a player

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@jordanwalker6819 cos individuals dont win teams do. therefore winning is a measure of team success whereas impact is a measure of individual success to me

[@hjalmarskytnielsen9383]

@@jordanwalker6819Also for Dynastys how you draw the Line for what count in the dynasty Can change so drastically.

[@jordanwalker6819]

@@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 what do you mean?

[@HeatvsHaters]

Shoutout tyler herro but throw away the heat team!

[@teemoney5563]

these nwa's really having a stick measuring contest over basketball, smh.

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

Draymond is DPOY

[@keontedunbar1525]

Chill sga still better than Tatum gang lol

[@fentanyljones6956]

Lebron been in the picture every year

[@remnant8898]

when he shouldn't be.

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Ron calling Steph the MVP frontrunner is INSANE

[@remnant8898]

Why?

[@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti]

​@@remnant8898bcz his nowhere near jokic right now

[@Shmooker-e1p]

@@remnant8898cuz Jokic and AD are still in the league

[@remnant8898]

@@Shmooker-e1p yeah, tell that to the opposing team who have to strategize against him. There isn't another player as dangerous as him on the court.

[@Shmooker-e1p]

@@remnant8898 I’ll repeat it again… Jokic is still playing

[@SomeonesDad2020]

Jokic vs Shaq debate. Jokic clears.

[@gzo70]

Ox is on point about the warriors bench players

[@bigjuan1155]

Ron by far makes the worst takes on this platform