Playing around with an HP Thin Client

[@nickrudd538]

Yeah I almost bought one to host a website and vpn server but a older Thinkcentre served me better.. but that PCI slot is accessible via the HP expansion unit which is like $20 on eBay

[@nelizmastr]

Thanks for the heads-up. I'll look into it.

[@Tore_Lund]

LOL, Got one of these today from my local grocery store as they are going out of business. They used it for displaying horse race results. Initially thought they had screwed me for 15$ , as it wouldn't boot!! Turned out this thin client wont boot with a dead CMOS battery!! Cracked open a led bike rearlight and ripped out the CR2032 battery as a substitute..... Works perfectly now!

[@coloradowilderness3139]

Tore, Very funny : They used it for displaying horse race results. I laughed for 2 min

[@Tore_Lund]

@@coloradowilderness3139 It was that kind of store: Candy in jars for the school kinds, an assortment of Chinese import $1 trash toys, owners wife had a rack selling surplus stock of outdated summer clothes. Then there were the compulsory gamblers hanging out there around the clock.The owner had a story for me every week on how the IRS and tax inspectors screwed him over, still, he got plenty of his goods from dudes arriving in unmarked vans!

[@PhaQ2]

The PCI-E slot is proprietary and only 4x. If you push anything but their proprietary riser into it and power up, you will let the magic smoke out.

[@choppergirl]

These things make great personal webservers. I've been running my webserver on one for the past 15 years.

[@KJ7JHN]

Adding a 44 Pin ide cable to mSATA. Win98SE, MS Office 2007, and Entertainment pack 1 to mine. Running audio out to aux in on my car radio. Also running a DLP pico projector. MIT open course mp4's running from vlc media player. Halleffect power switch. My in car office.

[@nelizmastr]

Office 2007 on win98? I think you mean 2003. W98 can’t run office 2007.

[@louieg8825]

Can i turn this into a media streaming & torrent pc? Cuz there are store here in my area selling this device for a cheap price.

[@nelizmastr]

See if you can find a newer model like the T530, those are excellent as a media center. This’ll do fine as a download server though.

[@louieg8825]

@@nelizmastr ok thanks for the great info sir.

[@dakotadirden9834]

NelizMastr - Tech for PC & Mac will this be a viable option for running an old game like wizard101

[@timschonherr7674]

You may want to check out he T610 from HP. It is another more modern thinclient, which supports SATA and 16 GB Ram. I used one of those with Win2k8R2 and it even runs Win10. Additionally it runs Ubuntu very well.

[@nelizmastr]

I’ve handled some T600 series thin clients at work before. Quite powerful for what they’re intended for these days. I will check one out once I come across a cheap one.

[@user-xo9ir1gx4z]

Greetings. I have a question about mini PC HP t5740w (HP Intel Atom N280 (Intel Atom N280 (1.6 GHz), RAM 2 GB, SSD 2 GB, Intel GMA, ), VU902AA,) I want to buy it for home, the main task is to watch videos from KZbin. Will this computer cope with such a task in the basic factory configuration using the native Microsoft Windows Embedded Standard operating system preinstalled on it?

[@nelizmastr]

The Atom 280 will not work for youtube higher than 360p quality.

[@user-xo9ir1gx4z]

@@nelizmastr Thanks for the information.

[@s8wc3]

I got a few of the older models of these (t5720 I think) with the PCI expansion bay for cheap, super handy for a small, fanless, pfSense box or something that requires minimal CPU power. Mine at least does only have 10/100 but here in Australia pretty much no one has more than DSL so its fine lol

[@nelizmastr]

I might grab an expansion unit just for fun, who knows. I'm still contemplating whether I should just put the single core Sempron back, but the system is running pretty speedy now so eh. It does appear to have gigabit, though, which is nice.

[@BurningLattice]

hey there my dude, where can I install Fans for this inside the Mainboard?

[@nelizmastr]

No clue tbh. In the stock slim unit, there’s no place for fans.

[@bramvandenbroeck5060]

I have a Dell Wyse Dx0d i use as a retro gaming machine and i have to say, some of those thin clients are actually pretty good!

[@te26706]

Nice video, in the case of installation can I choose another usb disk? in the installation directory, instead of choosing flash memory?

[@nelizmastr]

If you’re choosing a non-Windows OS, the answer is probably yes.

[@madmax2069]

I wonder if that PCIe slot if for an expansion box this would stack on or under, there is a slit for something to stick though the case.

[@nelizmastr]

It is, yes :)

[@Bonjour-World]

There is a different model the "HP T610 Plus" that has a taller case. That allows a right angle riser card and PCIE card to to be installed.

[@jiggalojonski]

I just came across this today can u educate me on the uses for this little machine like every possible use

[@nelizmastr]

You could use it as a NAS with USB harddisks, add a NIC and use it as a router, replace the DOM and CPU and use it as a low power PC, install Linux and run a webserver on it, the list goes on.

[@jiggalojonski]

@@nelizmastr not my cup of tea then thanks bro

[@SuperBigNye]

do you know how to reset a T410 hp thin client i have a few at my shop. i had the password to one and got it rested but theres another that wont play nice. I took it apart and i found a jumper thinking thats the reset but wasnt. Ive also tried looking for software to reload it with no luck the sites are all down.

[@nelizmastr]

I don't think there's really a reset function in that sense. You'll need the original software and perform a reinstall, or install something else.

[@SuperBigNye]

NelizMastr - Tech for PC & Mac well poo lol is there a place i can get the factory OS that came on them. I cant seem to find it on HPs website

[@si4632]

can you just take the cmos battery out

[@MuhammadbinYusrat]

Would this thing run OMV or something like that to work as a NAS controller type of thing...

[@nelizmastr]

With a dual core processor and 2GB of RAM and an 8GB flash drive you should be good to go. Add disks to it via USB or whatever.

[@MuhammadbinYusrat]

@@nelizmastr Thank you for the response. I really appreciate it. I was thinking if these things have SATA ports, that could probably give us even better speeds.

[@nelizmastr]

Sadly the 5730W as shown here only has a single female IDE connector, so you’ll need to look for a newer model that might have SATA

[@RixtronixLAB]

Vote up, keep it up, thank you for sharing it :)

[@lsk2324]

I have this same thin client, and run PFsense on it. I use it primarily as a VPN server.

[@Marvel66666]

My HP Thin Client T610 AMD G-T56N runs with MX Linux 17.1

[@si4632]

jaguar apu?

[@dion3302]

Lol time upgrade dude

[@pasof]

Hello. Thanks for the video. I have a hp thin t620. I would like to change the CPU for an AMD FX 8350 Black Edition. I would also like to change the ssd flash 16gb by samsung Evo 860. I would also add 8gb ram ddr3. Do you think this is compatible with the original motherboard or do I have to change it as well? I have to work on win 10 pro and run programs like Camtasia, UI Path. Thank you.

[@nelizmastr]

The FX8350 won’t work, the thin client needs an APU since it has no graphics built in otherwise. Also, it’s not a socketed CPU in modern thin clients, but soldered. The 8350 would catch fire anyway as even most desktop boards out there can’t properly handle it. You’re better off just building a Ryzen based system.

[@pasof]

@@nelizmastr Thanks, i have juste seen the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Wraith Stealth Edition (3.4 GHz). I hope that the moter card is compatible. Have a nice day

[@nelizmastr]

It’s not, you need to build a completely new PC. There is no compatibility between Ryzen and previous AMD platforms.

[@pasof]

@@nelizmastr I will not change. I received it Saturday and I want to upgrade it just a little. Too slow to load web pages and run windows 10. the ssd 16gb flash is full. So I'll just see to change the ram ddr3 and the msata. Thanks for your advise

[@DDICyber]

i put win10pe se on it from the oven it looks like a fuly windows 10 but a sort of a live windows youtube works in firefox the only driver you have to intergrate is the ati x1200 driver

[@MsJinkerson]

why put a 16X slot on one of those when you can not use them in any other configuration

[@killerdeamonking]

im sure thats only a x4 slot in x16 configuration , pretty much the same as with the T620.

[@_lwza_]

Is Ubuntu able to recognise and open the serial port OK?

[@nelizmastr]

Haven’t tried, so I couldn’t tell you.

[@skraegorn7317]

You should throw Puppy Linux or Tiny Core Linux on there. Either that or DOS or Windows 95/98 etc.

[@BilalHeuser1]

Which HP thin client is this? Is there a model number??

[@nelizmastr]

T5730W

[@si4632]

a shit one

[@lougarcillano1119]

Can someone anwer me what is the DDR model? Thankyou!

[@nelizmastr]

The 5730w uses DDR2 SODIMMs. PC2-5300 works well enough.

[@albundy316]

Thank you from Bulgaria!

[@nelizmastr]

:D

[@tanihakuna]

Sofia?

[@incredibil45]

where did you bought it from and/or for how much?

[@nelizmastr]

+incredibil45 got it for €10 from an online listing here in the Netherlands.

[@incredibil45]

10 euro for something which actually has enough power to be a standalone mini-pc? nice find

[@nelizmastr]

+incredibil45 embedded systems like this are plenty powerful these days. Standard current gen HP thin clients come with 8GB RAM and quad core CPUs even. Pretty insane.

[@incredibil45]

I saw. I wanted to get a orange pi one(quad core arm processor equivalets to a dual core intel and it has 512mb ram) to turn it into a small pc to browse the web and watch movies and it costs 10$ + case, cooling, bit of storage, etc it would cost me 25$ total. Then I found out about thin clients on youtube, a thing which I did not knew that it existed and saw a few old ones having better specs than that pi variant ^ (but theyre better since they can run windows) and they can also run source engine games and etc for under 12$ which is insane. I have a few cheap listings (around 10 usd) on local websites here but they're all just really weak thin clients (weak as in weak for a pc makeover) stuff like 128 or 258 mb ram with at max 500-800 mhz processors lmao

[@nathanj9350]

Minecraft server maybe?

[@nelizmastr]

+NathanGaming247 doesn’t have enough RAM unfortunately. A minecraft server runs kinda shit with less than 3GB of memory

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

NelizMastr - Tech for PC & Mac I taught a thin client was that it would remotely connect to a remote PC in a datacenter .....

[@MultiWirth]

​@@beedslolkuntus2070 that´s true. They´re designed to do remote desktop to an big server, so that´s why they don´t need much cpu power. So they can be silent, cheap and energy efficient. On the other newer generations have more cpu power, ddr3 memory and this will break all limits in case of memory. Also they often have a dedicated sata interface for standard 2,5" drives and if you have luck, it comes with an pci-e slot where you can place in an low profile video card. I´ve got an Fujitsu Futro S550, very similar to the machine in the video, upgraded to a dualcore cpu and put in a 32gb CF card (it uses generic flash cards instead of weird modules). It can run Windows 10 just fine. Anyways it barely runs. So i got an Hp T610 with a much better APU, installed 8GB DDR3, 120gb standard ssd and a pci-e wifi card (maybe there will be a video card later) It´s installing windows 10 at the moment and with windows 7 it can even play youtube videos up to 720p 27 frames, we´ll see how win10 performs.

[@beedslolkuntus2070]

MultiWirth Heh, but I may find it challenging to find a reailble cloud provider for hosting the OS, VERY insecure when you think your OS is fully stored is some cloud ;-;

[@MultiWirth]

@@beedslolkuntus2070 Usually you don't store the os in the cloud. You have a local IT network in your company or office and a big server pc somewhere inside your local network which does have for example windows server as OS and what a thinclient does, it connects via remote desktop and you can login into your user account. The operating system of the clients csn't do more than this. No build in browser, file browser or anything Often their boot drives are even read only filesystems and the usb ports can be configured to ignore usb drives to increase internal security. A thinclient's job is to output a video signal and send inputs to the server. If this method was insecure, big companies wouldn't implement this kind of IT infrastructure.

[@UrbCrafter]

Will this run peppermint?

[@nelizmastr]

Granted you have a bigger SSD inside (like a 16GB or bigger), then probably yes.

[@UrbCrafter]

I do, i have a handful of Sandisk ultra fit 64gb flash drives that were given to me at work, i was just curious what OS's would run this thin client. im just looking for something to run Kodi so i can build a media center out of this 50 inch monitor i was given, looks like a thin client is the way to go, thank you for the reply subbed you, look forward to more great videos....

[@nelizmastr]

Linux will work fine from SD cards, yeah.

[@ericdraven2219]

it be cool to know if it was the t610 hp or a different model... you set up a xen server and use it on that with client connect if you wanted and u can game on some of them😂😂😂 i done simular on a outdated laptop heheh the 8usb ports commonly used for doctors offices etc... its 1 for mouse 1 keyboard 1 printer prolly . 1 for usb/flash devices / you could use a external dvd rom on it too

[@1elmasbergas]

It has wifi ?

[@nelizmastr]

No. Thin clients are designed to have a wired connection because they need to talk directly to a server. WiFi is rather slow for that, especially when this machine was new.

[@freepalestine98]

CPU, GPU, good God.. I should of took computer programming engineering classes..

[@dakotadirden9834]

lol

[@dakotadirden9834]

CPU is central processing unit and gpu is graphical processing unit

[@atatu4551]

you should say it's t5730w

[@catfish_lude]

it neeeds a GT210 OC

[@jadajada405]

200 mb for swap woud have worked better

[@gruenkragena.z.4597]

I would buy 100 of them, and build a renderfarm!

[@agent_447]

gruenkragen a.z.... I think Ull be better off with a xeon based system for that amount of money...

[@platinumbeats5061]

Put a GPU in that pci slot!!!!

[@victoriaetheridge5338]

Jeremy Burke I've considered this as well. Granted these usually have older PCI (non-e) slots. There are still some cards out there, wonder if any could be powered off this type board

[@AquaSeaWings]

Victoria Etheridge b

[@user8274gbwq]

mm😳

[@janektrol8327]

Vista needs 2Gb of ram

[@nelizmastr]

Minimum requirement for 32-bit is 1GB for premium and better.

[@janektrol8327]

But on 1GB it is veeeery slow. On my school computer appears "Windows ran out of memory"message box.

[@janektrol8327]

Put Windows Embedded compact 7 or 2009. 7 is embedded 7. 2009 is embedded XP.

[@nelizmastr]

It won’t ever run Windows again. The IDE controller is dead so it can only run Linux now from USB.

[@nelizmastr]

Mine didn’t have SATA, only 44-pin IDE male, not even female.

[@mobeys]

great

[@wandamcgann7728]

KODI STREAMING PC

[@nelizmastr]

I have a NAS that runs Plex already, so I have no need for such a system.

[@errolmcinnes7938]

useless crap. too much proprietary hardware. it won't run anything, and is not much good for anything but target practice at the rifle range.

[@kjallen2610]

UBUNTU 😠😠

[@nelizmastr]

What did you expect? Not going to run Microshit Winblows on it. I'm familiar with debian servers and alternatives like centos don't fit on the 2GB flash memory.

[@cilo56]

Microshit LOL

[@aboumichelkalou5946]

no comment

[@mobeys]

great