PLAYING FIRE BOY IN CURRENT META IS HOPELESS | UNLESS YOU GO TANK

[@Argus_Superstorm_777]

Valir received some indirect nerfs, but most significantly are nerfs on his Double Wands, the Ice Queen Wand and the Glowing Wand. The Glowing Wand now has Anti-Heal, but the damage is low and it doesn’t have the same effect as before, which is to increase the enemy’s Magic Damage Taken. Then there's Ice Queen Wand, which has only Slow and unreasonable Build Path (No HP and Exotic Veil included), and that's all. 10% Spell Vamp is equivalent to 5% for most Mages with Spell Vamp Ratio. And you need at least 10% for it to be useful. Now I only build it on Valir, X.Borg and Zhuxin. For the rest, I use Concentrated Energy. But don't worry, they promised us in the Official Discord Server that they would consider revamping Valir's Ultimate. But there is no new news yet, so stay tuned. In addition, I also received a response from the official regarding my suggestion to buff Ice Queen Wand, and they will consider buffing it. (And yes, if they do that, we want our Radiant Armor back)

[@4ore37]

This is amazing stuff! I use valir as my -idk what to pick- secondary hero whenever my mains are banned/picked so if the time this eventually comes then I'll consider playing more valir.

[@leonmystique9372]

Revamp the ult again?! Just buff the base damage!

[@asakuraryuto8467]

Valir is hard against this current meta unless enemy pick utility jungler~🐧🐧

[@DumplingKhaii]

Including Karrie

[@WyrexMan]

Hororo Thank you for review Valir, he is Soo weak . Struggling to make good build for him. Useless, get a lose streak using him. Play solo. About Karrie, the old tank Karrie is popular. Tank MM and Mage for non meta cave heroes .😂😂

[@alyasVictorio]

"Tank Valir" Either way, don't forget to also build him 40% cooldown reduction too

[@oooooooooooo5498]

40cd isn't that effective since his 1st skill doesn't get affected by CD:(

[@MysteryShop7]

​​​@@oooooooooooo5498It does, it shortens the charging time. It's the same with skills with charges like Clint's ult and Angela's first skill

[@Beltesha]

​@@MysteryShop7 yeah but there's no point on doing so since it has no cd if you use it correctly

[@alyasVictorio]

@@MysteryShop7 Yeah

[@oooooooooooo5498]

@@MysteryShop7 tried it on practice and bruh I didn't know💀 when I pick him in matches I'm too focused on hitting minions and heroes to notice the difference🗿

[@aungthuhtet9825]

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[@yggdrassilii4377]

lmao

[@ArthorriasSumpi]

He lacks damage. His first skill is super slow. He needs buff on his S1 and passive. They should make his S1 faster especially the ground eruption and make his passive scale with little magic power.Hes pretty much cooked if enemy has summons or agile heroes.....

[@beaishiteruyo]

it's what i thought. he needs no revamp, just make his bullet faster+through minion and eruption on the ground faster. for the balance, reduce the duration of stun effect (maybe 0.6 sec)

[@imafish3390]

imo improving his enhanced skills during ult would be better since he's one of the few mages that has enhanced state. Right now its just used as a CC cleanse rather than a trump card he could use. For example, making his 1st skill into a straight line burst thats like a smaller but more spammable Auroras ult be very cool

[@sevenouthree]

Yes indeed, playing varil better with tank or semi tank build. Usually my build: - tough boots - glowing wand - ice queen wand - domi/ cuiras - athena - imo I use basic common emblem, to make him more survive in team battle and no worry if run out of mana. I use flame shot spell, cz i think it’s more flexible use and only 50s cooldown.

[@lemon2420]

i want that joy as my enemy bro what is even that beat☠☠☠

[@wrathfullys]

Valir just lacks damage or the ability to dish out damage quickly in this current meta. although he has a pretty big range, especially on ult mode, it travels kinda slow.

[@TheCyllY1]

The thing is that he's still good for team fights, his cc is good for any frontline enemies, and his second is good for breaking enemy formation or when you and your mm suddenly get jumped by the enemy jungler (that is if you have a good team to begin with.)

[@WyrexMan]

This is burst meta, because some people just crazy bout damage.

[@rohan7427]

Valir tank is amazing against a comp that has burst jungler/mm with tanks like belerick or hylos...the inbuilt purify is amazingggggg and also the stun... Valir has everything

[@n1ck3f]

0:00 that JOY user is a disgrace to us Joy Mains, no beats is just horrifyingly horrible

[@draculagaming8565]

Fr

[@RUKA_BABYMONST7R]

REALLLL.

[@agkekaishi02]

When i see joy players dash around like this, it makes me scratch my head in disbelief. Especially if my ally is the one who takes my hero and performs this bad.

[@alzetilted33]

Ikr Her 2nd skill is easier to use now yet people still suck at rhyming it Hope they didn't try to revamp her again like before

[@winxmagic7600]

He's receive chou tank treatments, samethings happen to chou in m6 where his kit proper to be consider as a "tank" rather than just "do some damage"

[@jijipureiya]

Id say there's not much, besides the daily content that us the viewers love and watch

[@wideashevamarhaendra2347]

3:04 Epic Moment

[@GuniMoo]

0:56 Personally I'd switch some for Consentrated energy and Oracle to keep the health flowing and so I can 1v1 fighters but other than that good tank build as a base

[@zzzlulzzz5080]

Valir with no Glowing wand is like a dog without a Fur

[@michiosan5954]

TBH after i saw your video with Valir Tank build a few months ago i played valir as a mid Tank/Support instead of Valir Damage Build. I always build 1st ice wand for slow then Glowing wand for Anti Heal then the rest is depend on the enemy line up

[@cevikerkan5840]

Mana spicy boy mana fire boy this is kiboyyy!!

[@Stewiegriffiin]

as a valir main i find him usueless now his first skill can be dodge easily due to its slow projectile and can be blocked by random objects like a creeps and enemy usually hides behind the creeps most of the time valir is useless agains't burst damage mages althoguh he has ultimate which can be use to remove the stuns but still the damage is so low even with the buffed first skill of 40% base damage i no longer build him with damage i build him with semi tank build...so i really hope they would revamp him i like the skills set now but hopefully like just change the way the first skill make it faster and load faster and the stun should be 2 stacks only

[@lowkeygaming4716]

I do tank build with Valir but I still keep the glowing wand and ice queen wand because his CC is best combined with those 2

[@neonthewild2894]

*Benedetta, Fanny, Ling, and Haya can humble him so hard that's why I usually build him tank and my only magic item being iqw and concentrated energy or glowing wand if there's a sustainer*

[@agkekaishi02]

Same, i can't forgo the tank build without building icequeen wand on him. The slow helps him hit his skills triggering passive stacks for the stun to activate easier. While using him, even if the target opponent is not the core (due to annoyingly fast mobility), atleast i can delay his teammates response time in a ganks and clashes

[@amanosatoshitranslates]

2:58 Ayo dyrroth is trashtalking?

[@MatrixAdic]

I sometimes build waraxe for him Just for fun 😂 Combine that with brute force and you have plenty movement speed and some spellvamp including ice wand

[@muhammadaimanleongmuhammad9908]

From dead heroes to undead heroes

[@暇人-t6j]

ever since that glowing wand got nerfed, it became even harder to kill even low health enemies especially with todays hero with multiple blink skills. Thus making you wonder why stubbornly pick him when theres a whole lot mage that can 1 combo kill/multi kill. 😢 either buff his core items or skills/passives.

[@jlai8411]

fire wand , ice wand , radiant armor , antique curriass, sky pierce

[@neonthewild2894]

*out of topic but Joy is just probably the most underwhelming hero that they made so far like you can barely even complete the beats without the enemies chain cc'ng you or bursting you down, they need to bring back her cc immunity from her 2nd skill**

[@erlinjulia]

nah she deserve what she had today.

[@alemansprototypeguy]

Joy is currently rocking on M6 with a high winrate and contention rate

[@antijokecommenter5003]

nope, the joy user in the vid just didnt know how to play. the way you should engage in teamfights is fill up the stacks with minions or creep that are close to the fight, if there are none, try to find the right timing to dash in so you dont get cc chained.

[@MLBB_Eboade]

If u r using the joy in the video to judge her overall performance then u r wrong, that one sucked

[@fm_0523]

Wdym? She's annoying as hell and banned very frequently, she's everything but underwhelming.

[@ashikurrahman2056]

i envy you, you are too good.

[@jijipureiya]

would you say that the JP server nowadays has an easier/shorter matchmaking time

[@amanosatoshitranslates]

3:59 Just 60 gold? How many times she died?

[@Makmak-jy9xt]

I want to ask why most Cyclops users prefer Temporal Reign more instead of War Cry? Considering that Cyclops abuses War Cry more than Temporal Reign and it significantly boosts the Damage Dealt when Combined with Concentrated Energy. Additionally, comparing both talents Cooldown, and Duration War Cry takes the Win.

[@Makmak-jy9xt]

I know this is off topic but I hope someone replies

[@leuscferr8046]

Spamming skills feels more satisfying and its impact you can see directly but warcry is just increase in numbers

[@alemansprototypeguy]

CDR but I personally prefer Impure Rage for that sweet HP-based DMG and mana regen

[@ny3194]

Normally 10 sec ult with passive don't know just spam with 2nd skill

[@Destiny-absolete]

cuz u can have 10 balls (2nd skill) instead of 5, and what 10 balls does is to further reduce the cd of skills. you can pretty much cast 3 ults or more in a short time

[@m.ds7993]

His old ult is way better than the current one. 😅

[@N.A.Kisgood]

For a kit base off of defense he sure is vulnerable, maybe I should try tank Valir

[@mauromalok3756]

He just needs little buff like when he use his ult his 1 skill should get immediately 2 stacks or something like that

[@ucantcme1614]

He is quite useful if the enemy has Khaleed or Hilda.

[@zekeuu]

I would like Valir to be a jungle (I have KOF skin and I don't play mage)

[@materialgworl8971]

Please send me.

[@tcg_channels]

Lol first item Sky piercer but 0 kill 🤣🤣🤣

[@bluerosesoraza]

Hi Hororo, I hope you notice this comment. I have a new goldlaner... Karina... she's very good to be goldlaner, especially since her first skill reflect all basic attack each 0.4s. I already tried this in rank, using 2 assasin meta (hyper assasin & karina gold lane). and surprisingly, the results are unbelieveable good. hope you have time to try it for 3-5 matches and post the results. thanks 😆

[@bluerosesoraza]

I use flicker as her battle spell, using thrift for extra 16 dmge, bargain hunter for cheap item, and magic worhship with mage emblem. for item, I go with mage bursts build... arcane boots-starlium-sky piercer-holy-divine-concecrated. this is my builds. hope this can be your references.

[@ghostofjaden3837]

Valir doesn't even need so much magic items lol just get CoD plus Blood Wings and you're basically good..!

[@romanelloin]

I miss valir ultimate old :)

[@Saturlen]

he said no one survive, no one does

[@kraris777]

Strangely i dont have too much problem with gord, chang e, other mage even if they are squishy. Valir projectile is just too slow, easy to dodge

[@takumauzumakiamv5077]

Hi hororo can you do a vs all heroes with new heroes again after they're released? Especially Lucas I'd like to see it

[@watching.learning]

I played a lot of dead heroes! For this season, it took me 1.4K games to become Mythic! It was usually 50-70 games. Hahaha~ Plus Moonton giving me teammates who just played the game! Well fuck. Moonton should pay me for carrying noobs!

[@mpakaboy]

Mages are sad in current meta.. so they are now tanks? I tried your vexana cdr tank build and understood this playstyle a bit. I have to agree that without burst that they had mages might as well be tanks

[@Terrano4]

What was joy even doing...

[@RUKA_BABYMONST7R]

REALL

[@thedoctor9038]

👍👍

[@SoloQueueGamer]

Does thunderbelt work on Valir?

[@daaringasai666]

Passive is halved and since his main source of damage is the first skill so it's useless on him unless you build attack speed

[@Lightneverdark]

Did someone like me or other that first time see valir using tank build?

[@kaito7132]

Dyroth trashtalking 😄

[@GiorgioGiovanna]

I think they should nerf skill1 dmg and megabuff his passive

[@Kiriya_Spica]

Joy after battle, ban valir😂😂😂

[@RUKA_BABYMONST7R]

I dont think so

[@Ichaltrilaksa]

Legenda Seluler Duar Duar? 😂😂

[@Eecky]

I never see him in my ranked games anymore. That's because I ban him every single game

[@krazygurl5875]

Not worth banning tbh 💀 most assassins can just dash in his 2nd skill... Making him useless in current meta

[@alemansprototypeguy]

Personally I see Yve and Zhuxin more banworthy than Valir

[@krazygurl5875]

@alemansprototypeguy I understand yve and zhuxin but valir is relatively weak... Sure hus 1+2 stun is annoying but he's the easiest to burst or chase cuz his skills have very long cool down unlike the other two you mentioned... His ultimate with one time purify is also useless against damage heroes...

[@11_iqrulmukhtafa26]

I use vamp based build

[@ballalpatil6512]

Lmao i'mma try fighter emblem valir with festival of blood lmao

[@ShimonSingson]

Please do kagura tank

[@ty.angelo]

idk why everyone not using tank valir, i main tank valir and been winning a lot

[@ragequitter88]

just ban assassins that can pick him off and he will be meta, hes a good counter for hylos hilda khaleed and all those tank exps

[@Milky-h5k]

Only the pull back effect of his skill 2 is good, he overall mechanics is quite useless actually

[@sokvisalnhean3680]

Add ads to get money Hororo-Chan

[@GenesisZennox]

Heck no.

[@istoletxtsbraincells2164]

Ugh that joy's music 😬

[@alzetilted33]

And they still can't rhyme her 2nd skill even after they made it easier😂

[@deusaugma]

I use valir as a roamer, focused on movement speed and cd

[@SulmanFaisal-l8o]

@@deusaugma I also play valir roam but as tank build with one magic item

[@alemansprototypeguy]

Valir not META on utlity jungler META: better tank shredders like Lylia is the main reason Valir not META on assassin META: limited utility considering teamfights are more prolonged than utlity jungler META nowadays due to the existence of Gatot, Hilda, Hylos, Phov and even Khaleed

[@lyhourphorn]

❤

[@moh.fallentinoahzamibonok452]

Japanese people really play this game?