Etali vs Sen Triplets vs Tivit vs Jhoira | CEDH Gameplay

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[@koanos2448]

6:55 "IT'S GODO WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!"

[@jameslabbe4119]

Underrated comment hahaha

[@TheCulturedMan34]

The crowd is going wild Jerry!!!!😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@DarkEinherjar]

Let's be real: was that really an Etali deck, or did John simply add Etali to the usual Godo deck and swap Etali with Godo as the commander? 🙃

[@rutasel6726]

Lets be real winning a cedh game with godo is Challenge enough

[@Azziko]

@@rutasel6726 no, its not

[@rutasel6726]

​@@Azziko kinda is the deck is not absolutely terrible but in any tier list its Tier d at best

[@Azziko]

​@@rutasel6726 There is absolutely no way, considering the amount of commanders that are CEDH viable nowadays. I have no idea what tier list you are talking about, I speak by experience. It's been the best mono red deck before Magda came out. It is A - consistent, B - fast. When these condition are met, you can not call a deck bad.

[@rutasel6726]

​@@Azziko Its a deck with 2 top 16 finishes over the last year. It is consistent but its not fast compared to other decks in the format like any turbo naus shell. It is telegraphed linear and 1 dimensional and is (very) bad on the stack. It also doesnt contain muuch card advantage which makes it harder to come back after being stopped. Sure the lack of top 16's is also a lack of representation but there is a reason for the underrepresentation which in my opinion is that people know better then to bring if they are not absolutely proficient at it. Like i said its not absolutely terrible but its sure fair that if you look at the top 15 most represented decks on edhtop16 every single one is better then godo. It being the one of the best mono red decks really doesnt say anything since monocoloured decks already struggle alot and red is not even the best mono colour. I think when you speak of tierlist you have to look at how it compares to other decks in the format and i simply don't see it as a top player at all maybe D is too harsh and you can make an argument for it being like a C tier deck or smth but its not a "good" deck by cEDH standards for me, there is better combo decks that are more consistent and faster and it also struggles into decks that are more grindy then it.

[@av2138]

In Game two....ashani opening hand doesnt conatin a, undergound sea or mana vault or time sieve....with only two draws and one being a top deck of the result of imperial seal....which i assume was a time seive....where did mana vault or undergound sea come from when only one could come from the opening draw?

[@smack80]

yep! This man has a point

[@devilrespawn]

I would also like to know

[@kevlokz4439]

I’m assuming an edit error with notion thief and transmute artifact but this DOES seem a bit sus 👀

[@crywolv1273]

Ye if the opening hands are correct there's no way he'd have the crypt and the time sieve

[@edwardwilliams7770]

Besides an edit error, the only other thing I can think of is he added the Imperial seal card to hand.

[@koanos2448]

I feel like Sen Triplets was overshadowed by being right next to another Esper Commander, especially since they run overlapping cards but Tivit is just stronger.

[@johnMTG117]

Hi koanos

[@koanos2448]

@@johnMTG117 Hi John!

[@Ianova]

I see fringe commanders are a flavour lately, anyone on the team wanting to see if Meren can hold up in cEDH? That's a classic "boogeyman" and there just so happens to be a shiny new decklist+primer all about its new "RazaLord" strategy 👀

[@fireshaw]

Etali and Sen Triplets are both commanders in my cedh playgroup. I hope you'll being them back for more games in the future.

[@fpsdr0p8]

Secret commander Godo lol

[@MatthewSerre]

I wonder if in game 3 it would have been reasonable for John to cast Etali and then cast Zealous Conscripts to give it haste. Or was there interaction Ashani could have used if he had the Lotus Petal available?

[@Baxter_the_Octopus]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@ShellzTheGod]

Ryan losing to his infamous Godo combo was kinda funny

[@HeyApples]

I really like the Etali with the Godo sub-plan. I've been brewing in my head around the idea of shoving a godo sub-package into Winota for similar effect.

[@B1gBingus]

3 tier 3 decks and a tier 1 deck, I wonder how this will shake out.

[@arthurpotter9092]

why was my man running godo in etalli XD I mean it worked but still XD

[@calvinmobley9628]

Man, I really wish John would just gone for it and played etali turn 1 in game 3. He never got to attack with it lol. And yes I know it's risky but he had another land and ragavan to dash out if etali got removed or countered. Would've been fun. Still pretty explosive and unfortunate that he died to crypt lol.

[@MattiaFocardi]

What would you choose when using Intuition with that Tivit deck? A Sevinne's Reclamation plus Sieve and something else, perhaps?

[@k-dawg2104]

What are the fetches for In the etali deck? Is it purely to shuffle the library? Outside of that I can’t think of a reason to use them over basic mountains or other utility lands

[@Azziko]

fetch = draw

[@WiiTara]

It thins out the deck. Every fetch you crack means one land less you can draw, which means the likelyhood of drawing sth that is pure gas is higher.

[@blinky101]

@@WiiTara This effect is negligable in a 100 card deck. The obvious reason he is running them though is because of Scroll Rack. And Brainstone to a lesser extent.

[@WiiTara]

@@blinky101 But its increasing chances and in cEDH you take every opportunity

[@TripsAhoy]

Nice games! ❤❤❤

[@bensteinhauser784]

Less than impressed with Etali. The random Godo win was funny but the deck doesn't seem to have the interaction or easily assembled wincons necessary to sit at a cEDH table. The Sen Triplets deck felt slow but that's primarily due to pod composition (Tivit plays through all the stax without issue and has a better payoff in the cz). I would like to see the deck again in a pod that is less hostile to it.

[@kevinkennedy-8606]

A little late but yeah. Etali has a high ceiling if he attacks cuz of the chance to hit literally anything, but a 6 mana commander that needs to attack for value isn’t very effective in cedh

[@fosterdawson7339]

Dang I was hoping for the new Gruul Etali, this’ll be fun though

[@Spirited_skiing]

Idk if you’re familiar with cEDHtv, but they have a few etali games up over on their channel that are interesting! I was definitely in the same boat as you, new etali seems really interesting!

[@hesnotbad9045]

I was playing at FNM and 30 minute warning was called. We decided we could all bring our fast decks and get one last game in. For whatever reason one of the guys brought out a Sen triplets deck to go fast. Thankfully seat one was slicer and I was on kess, so the game was over turn 3

[@ghoohg551]

Sen Triplets seems interesting.

[@ayejay7024]

Interesting concept but I don’t think it’s great in CEDH. I’d rather play Tivit if I’m playing Esper.

[@jakicaki]

how did Ashani pay for hydroblast since magus was on the battlefield?

[@smitchy657]

Another cool game. I have to wonder though if you could sometimes show games in which commanders actually get to do something interesting. Sen Triplets is one of them, but of course it doesn't get taken advantage of because folk are already using the same card combos to win games

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Sometimes we don't get games that end up that way. Sometimes we publish what we have.

[@Melissanoma]

I looked away during opening hands game 2 and thought you said haos ORB. Had to rewind for that one

[@zealot2147]

Time to build a mono red non godo deck aaaaaaaaand its a godo deck

[@emarmy00]

Wild, Wild games!!

[@CeilingNinja]

Why would you counter a wheel when you KNOW someone's got Treasonous Ogre in hand???

[@jessesandburg]

Ashani is an insane pilot

[@lordgunther4674]

How does the godo loop work? He already attacked this turn so why would there be infinite attack steps

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

The copy gets to attack

[@jeremyramirez3031]

Name the star wars creatures RIGHT NOW.

[@wyatt5450]

Ewok

[@jeremyramirez3031]

@@wyatt5450 that's on me, I set the bar too low

[@NBellTV]

Jhoira seemed to ready to pop so many times 😂 was hoping to see a storm win but the stax and interaction were too good

[@avandaughrity2114]

Do ya'll actually own all these cards or do ya'll proxy a lot? Just curious.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Some of us own these cards and others do not. We always advocate for proxying cards you do not own. We love it when this community grows, but budgets would stifle that growth too much.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Here for spice.

[@fyue23]

In game 3, why didn't Ryan turn 1 wheel? So good...

[@thomasharris3199]

No breach line wins in this episode. Nice!

[@kokushogames3283]

Why are people who are against cedh and proxies even watching this vid?

[@trainboy911]

So Etali is really "Godo in a trench coat"

[@gabrielbost8281]

You should do etali primal conquorer the one from march of the machine

[@dougnapier6441]

damn I think I would of misstep the jeweled lotus or imperial seal to slow tivit down

[@vincezuniga3864]

Why wouldn't you play the other etali

[@dimitriosdoulgeris4659]

Etali is a really bad card. Easily stoppable, costs way to much mana and doens't have haste. The new one costs one more mana, but triggers right when it etbs. The trick with Godo was funny once. Unfortunately not twice.

[@jorjor500]

The other one also gives you access to green, which overall would make the deck stronger. The Etali list was actually just godo, and it was kinda lame.

[@dimitriosdoulgeris4659]

@@jorjor500 I agree. If you wanna play mono-red, play a valuable commander like Godo or Birgi. I personally don't like mono-red, but maybe because I don't know how to play it. As I said, Etali isn't funny beyond first encounter.

[@vert3432]

@@dimitriosdoulgeris4659 It *is* funny when you do some shenanigans and loop the new etali using Feldon of the Third Path

[@gjhorton]

Sieve is pronounced like ‘Siv’

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

That's nice. But then we would get about a thousand comments saying it's pronounced the other way. We've been down this road before.

[@gjhorton]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I get your point. It’s true for most cases, but in this case there is only one accepted pronunciation in any version of English or in any accent. But great content by the way. Keep up the good work.

[@jeffbt17]

Ashani's fingers looking so delicious

[@CrazyAlbatross46]

to me the new etali is better than this one, like in this deck etali is sued only to have a monored commander, at this point just play godo

[@blakemcconnell6213]

Wow Tivit won again. How original. That deck may be the most boring deck to watch in cEDH

[@elliottengstrand5988]

Cooool. More games won by Godo and Oracle.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

That's cEDH for you. Play the best, most efficient wincons because they're the best, most efficient wincons.

[@arthurpotter9092]

It's not always about the win con, it's about how you get there. Plus godo in the 99 is funny as hell and game 2 had a pretty unique win.

[@sethmccutchen4011]

yea bro game 2 was won by tivit 😂

[@elliottengstrand5988]

@@sethmccutchen4011 Yeah so one match out of every ten they exhibit on the channel is won by something unique. My point is the comment section AND the people writing the narration for the episode always love it when something unexpected wins a game. So why don't we do the obvious thing and stop featuring decks that win with one of the same four wincons every cedh deck runs.

[@arthurpotter9092]

@@elliottengstrand5988 they ALL run those win cons. That's what makes it cEDH.

[@koreyg8552]

Of course sen triplets can hang. It’s in esper lol. What kind of caption is this

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

The kind that tells a thousand people that say Sen Triplets isn't a CEDH deck.

[@Murkglow]

The question isn't can any given Esper deck be in CEDH, the answer to that is obviously yes. Oracle + Consult/Pact mean any deck with blue and black can pull a win no matter what commander you use (you could run Blackblade for example and win some games, that doesn't mean he's a CEDH worthy commander). The real question is if Sen Triplets is any better than just having an empty command slot with esper colors, and the answer to that is very questionable. If the question is if Sen Triplets is worth using over nearly any other competitive esper cedh commander (like say the other one in this very video which clearly did far better...) the answer is almost certainly no.

[@jeremysnowden1286]

Cedh is the definition of try hard

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

stay mad kid

[@jeremysnowden1286]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG not mad nor a kid I just don’t waste money on a casual format

[@christopherlapp4553]

Rough comment section today. Thanks for the high quality content, I appreciate it.

[@mh27400]

Jeremy Snowflake over here 😂 sit down, kid