Aeldari vs Necrons - Warhammer 40k Combat Patrol Battle Report

[@thornthallid950]

It's a bit of an unexpected one, but the Wraithlord doesn't have the Strands of Fate faction in Combat Patrol, so I believe you can't use fate dice for any of its rolls.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

This is quite correct. When we played this, none of the indexes were out yet and so we were playing off of poor screen grabs and I think we just missed it. Sorry for the mistake.

[@MentoliptusBanko]

I like how they explain rules and abilities when they use them.

[@cartouchator]

in 10th edition, it's different from 9th : you still cannot shoot the unit you're engaged in combat with for blast weapons with monsters and vehicles, BUT, you can now shoot blast weapons at a target that is NOT engaged in combat at -1 to hit. The doomstalker could shoot other targets the entire time even while engaged with the wraith lord... This would've easily won him the game..

[@SharpAsASpoon]

i think it was more that he had no targets, since the guardians were comfortably behind the terrain

[@TheBeeFlex]

@@SharpAsASpoonagreed, no targets for its blast shots

[@GT-vl4of]

@@TheBeeFlex At 18:35, the Doomstalker has line of sight on squad of 3 bikes next to the Aeldari's deployment zone. The Doomstalker could 100% reach that squad of bikes with his 48" blast weapon.

[@Coreyseyes11]

Noticed this too

[@TheBeeFlex]

@@GT-vl4of totally possible, but how would it change the outcome of the game ? Blast weapons are most effective against infantry

[@jake9705]

Awhile back you guys did a "fog of war" deployment scenario where a large wall was placed between the two players, then both players deployed simultaneously without knowing what the other was doing. That was so cool and made so much sense. Wish that was the standard rule for all 40K starts. Would be even more cool if round one went the entire round with the wall up and movement only, no shooting. Then start of round two the wall comes down and you're completely surprised by each other's positioning, some enemy units danger close even.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

We kinda did that earlier this year. Check out death guard vs Astra miliatarum!

[@jake9705]

​@@PlayOnTabletop-- That was probably the video I watched, super fun

[@BorderCityTabletop]

This would be so perfect for a mission rule.

[@owlvisionvideography]

Is it just me or is the Sound switching to only one speaker at times?

[@Tmmy-pd8li]

It does. I noticed that too.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

We apologize there are some technical issues on the audio for this one. We can't fix it unfortunately on an uploaded video and will ensure we are more careful in the future.

[@owlvisionvideography]

@@PlayOnTabletopno Problem, I still enjoy your Videos and the effort that goes into it. Especially as a noob to this hobby! Cheers!

[@anamAlister]

Lmao I thought that was my earbud blinking out! Thank the gods its just the vid audio.

[@SenseiLlama]

Nope it's me too

[@GriffinPlays617]

Just started a little necron army based on a custom vampire counts-esque dynasty. Love to see smaller matches with necrons, I really like the regeneration qualities of the army this edition! Great Game yall!

[@thatepicwizardguy]

Love seeing non-space marine fights. Michael bringing Necrons is always great though I do prefer the biiiig fights with necrons where they can really do their thing

[@Dirt1061]

Oh that kangaroo dance! 16:35. I was really looking forward to these two combat patrols! Man, seeing the fate dive in action is crazy!

[@jamesramey4050]

Nick didn’t realize that his dance would be used in the Olympics

[@Mstet-f9f]

Casual Nick shenanigans

[@kieran2221]

the fact that the Scorpec destroyer came back about .... 7 times is wonderful. You can imagine it pulling itself along without any legs at all.

[@Zalintis]

ALWAYS a pleasure when Play On uploads a new video! Constructive feedback - at least 3 times in the first 3 minutes the audio cuts on the left entirely. As someone who listens with only one ear to ensure I can still hear my surroundings it was minorly frustrated! :P

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Agreed. It was not intentional. Not sure what happened but it looks like KZbin introduced some odd issues.

[@Zalintis]

@@PlayOnTabletop glad you know! Editing on this channel is top notch and I know that it's a very painstaking process over many hours :)

[@dedrat_]

I thought my headset broke

[@davidweber3498]

I love Nick's hops 16:32

[@frogsterlicous7040]

Wouldn't Michael have got 4 shots with the doomstalker's first shot because it would been D6+1+2 due to blast? Unless I'm forgetting combat patrol rules.

[@dittmar104]

Yes he should have benefited from blast for every 5 models

[@blackbusterletsplay9377]

maybe the doomstalker kanon or whatever does not have D6+1, but only D6 shots in Combat Patrol

[@Jan_Iedema]

@@blackbusterletsplay9377nope it has it

[@wlange3613]

I saw that too, they forgot to add the +1 so it should have been 4 shots

[@wlange3613]

its still D6+1 and blast for combat patrol@@blackbusterletsplay9377

[@gregmichaud7314]

I might be wrong, but I thought they changed the fate dice to 1 per phase? Love the energy from all your games a wonderful channel to watch

[@cujfab8962]

they did in the 40k index, not the combat patrol rules

[@keithclark6724]

All it says is 4th paragraph add once per phase. And the army rule is the same for both modes. I'd say it definitely applies to combat patrol.

[@Jjormungandr]

I looked on the app and there, the uses of strand of fate are not restricted to one per phase. Either GW fucked up (which would not be the first time) or they want it to remain OP... Both I don't get.

[@fishbone493]

@@cujfab8962both mode

[@Whoknows21356]

@@Jjormungandrit’s just combat patrol. Chill my guy

[@troutwarrior6735]

Holy moly, I knew strands of fate was powerful but I've never actually seen it in action before. That's insane!

[@argumentum-ad-absurdum]

I really need Michaels painting scheme it looks so good

[@Shadow111085]

Is it just me or did the Overlord forget to use his Tachyon Arrow? Cuz I would have shot that on Turn 1 right into the Wraith Lord's face lol. For the Scarabs with no OC or abilities in Combat Patrol. I would have had them move up with the Warriors. Let them be up front and take the brunt of the attacks being the cannon fodder they are lol. The Doomstalker, tagged as a vehicle, could have still used their Doomsday Blaster while in close combat. It can't shoot it at his close combat target because it has blast, but he could still shot it other targets with a -1 to hit. However, I don't think there were any visible targets by the time this happened. One thing I couldn't figure out though was why was the Doomstalker was considered stuck? Is it because his base couldn't move around the building without it going out of bounds or past the Wraithlord without going over the Wraithlord's base? If so, maybe a Desperate Escape could have been worth it to get out of the corner? Could have maybe shot at the Eldar Warriors some more or the Wraithlord. Could have used the Scarabs to screen the Wraithlord in Combat maybe. Or taken the near by objective, beating the Wraithlord's OC3 to the Doomstalker's OC 4.

[@ebonezra8073]

I may have missed it - it's been a year - but, did we ever get the rematch? I just started playing the Aeldari, and picking up this army was a toss-up between them and the Necrons, so this was an exciting and relevant BR. Thank you, @PlayOnTabletop!

[@Obi1979]

Appreciate the video. Combat Patrol is the most underrated game mode in 40k.

[@ralfsstuff]

I love how Combat Patrol boxes are their own game mode now. I can just grab a box, build it to spec and start playing against any other box right away

[@dittmar104]

It’s like what kill team was supposed to be. Not you need multiple boxes

[@michaelfrazer5042]

This was the very first video that got me into 10th edition. Thank you guys for getting me into such a wonderful Tabletop game

[@rileygillgren4596]

Love these combat patrols can’t wait for Custodes

[@Seanetsell]

Good tilt! Also, appreciate how you point out some of the rules as you play.

[@SpectrumViibes]

This a great Combat Patrol, my favourite I've watched yet! Two great players, great atmosphere, great fun! 🙏🏼

[@hav6301]

10:06 Casino dice are the most accurate ones, over indented dice or rounded corner dice. Those have been shown to produce more ones than casino dice.

[@Airwavehero]

Love the sound effects this episode!

[@zappy7393]

Im still learning the rules and it seems that just pulling dice off the side is major OP.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for another battle report! I hope we see one feating the Adepta Sororitas.

[@warmasterraven1447]

I absolutely love this series! I personally love combat patrol and its great seeing you guys play it!!

[@SirSoup3]

Would love to see a rematch with the full rules now available for all the combat patrols. A great vid as always

[@paulh3892]

Great game, the players were awesome as always, and the production was a wonderful showcase for Combat Patrol. Just ordered the Necron box, and I can’t wait to play this at the next board game night. Exciting stuff 👍

[@triplecs7331]

The Aeldari are way too OP. That fate dice mechanic feels like cheating. Lol

[@thordoo3047]

I don't understand why people play them at tournaments... It's like... Cool, you won with a broken faction, congrats? 🦄

[@tristangagne5120]

Yeah they are straight up broken with a 67% tournament win rate right now. Some of the highest disparity in forever! If you DON'T want to make friends at your LGS, show up with a meta Eldar list 🤣.

[@Shadow111085]

The Fate Dice were changed by the Rules Commentary. It's now 1 die per a Phase now. Idk if the Fate dice are still the major issue with Eldar now. I'm leaning towards the other issues instead.

[@Stubble317]

@@thordoo3047 cause who’s gonna buy an entire new army just cause the one they have happens to be broken 😅

[@thordoo3047]

@@Stubble317 Fair enough :)

[@Shadow111085]

@PlayOnTabletop One thing I couldn't figure out though was why was the Doomstalker was considered stuck? Is it because his base couldn't move around the building without it going out of bounds or past the Wraithlord without going over the Wraithlord's base? If so, maybe a Desperate Escape could have been worth it to get out of the corner? Could have maybe shot at the Eldar Warriors some more or the Wraithlord. Could have used the Scarabs to screen the Wraithlord in Combat maybe. Or taken the near by objective, beating the Wraithlord's OC3 to the Doomstalker's OC 4.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Yeah he couldn’t move out of the corner. The terrain was two tight. :/

[@bensparks8221]

we need more necrons and by that i mean we need more michael :)

[@LightningDefender66]

16:33 random bouncy nick!

[@granthqweqw5244]

At around 23:00, the rule for overwatch with charging is that you can only fire overwatch (in the reference to charging) if they make the charge. If they don't make a successful charge roll then you can't overwatch that unit.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

There’s a bit of debate about that right now. Jury is still out and we are awaiting a faq on it.

[@SolidStoat]

Is there? Seems pretty clear to me. Overwatch = when a unit starts or ends a charge move. Charge section says ‘IF the charge [roll] is successful, each model makes a charge move…’ Therefore, failing a charge = no move is made = no overwatch. Simples.

[@granthqweqw5244]

@SolidStoat Yeah, this is correct. It is paraphrased with the glossary definition of a charge move but this is correct. Had a 30minute discussion with someone about this.

[@quenelacazzo]

Really cool to see more combat patrol battles, nice easy and fast

[@TheDavethepally]

I’m impressed the Necrons were able to put in that much work, considering that they have no special rules on any of their data sheets. And the elders kept all their special rules. Also, seems that the Necrons have no strats in combat patrol. This doesn’t seem like a good format for new players. Simple yes, but not a representation of the game.

[@BOHICA69]

I was rooting for the Aeldari, but dang the Necrons punched back hard af. Good match overall.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

They tried hard!

[@reimondadam5297]

Really like the scenery you use for your games🙌 always feels like you are in the battle💪

[@wlange3613]

What could have helped the crons was using the right overlord model because the data sheet has it equipped with a tachyon arrow which could have came in clutch to help pop off the wraith lord, by at minimum hit scoring at least 3 wounds, and up to 8 being D6+2 to damage.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Wraithlord doing a Kangaroo dance into combat Aeldari: That will put the fear into them! :P LOL

[@SaintSpenstar]

The War in Heaven that I’ve been wanting! 😂

[@WillHaus13]

Let’s go NECRONS!!!

[@Hobbydude785]

I just got the Aeldari combat patrol this gives me some good ideas

[@Samsquantch82]

Nick with the Kangaroo Cameo™

[@euskariification]

As a new player love combat patrol videos! In leviathan book razing an objective is done at the start of phase, and primary is scored at the end of phase. Should JT get only 15VP turn 2 because he only controls 1 objective as he razed the other? Or did Michael control none? Awesome content as always!

[@TheDude_Jonathan]

Wow that overwatch on 4+😬 plus the fate dice of course made it rough. Still looks like a quick fun game at this level, really looking forward to playing some Combat Patrol Great game guys 👍🏻

[@thomaswilloughby2951]

I thought this would have been a great game, but then I saw that JT was using the old and busted fate dice, not the cleaned-up version. Painful in a big game, oppressive in a smaller one. Love to see a rematch with the current version being used, tho!

[@theStamax]

Technically this change isn't in CB (yet), as anything affecting their other datasheets or indexes does not affect the Combat Patrol (and it wasn't changed there)

[@cheeseydude14]

we need more jt battle reports! 🔥🔥

[@typo_Pigman]

I know I'm a bit late here, but did anybody else get some weird audio panning issues at the during the intros? I was getting the audio panning hard left multiple times

[@Dragon_Fyre]

So happy that editing kept in a bunny hop in the background 😅

[@thomashaynes907]

Loved seeing the Eldar fight the Necrons

[@SebastianNileDecleene]

i love every battle u guys ost

[@vrkhel]

JT messed up a little. The Wraithlord does NOT have Strands of Fate in Combat Patrol. No fate dice for him, I'm afraid...

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Ooh, yeah that one is defiantly an oversight! Thank you for the heads up and apologies for the mistake!

[@vrkhel]

@@PlayOnTabletop No worries! I just learned it at a local Combat Patrol tournament and most Eldar players didn't realize either. I think it should be a bit clearer somehow

[@jtmcdowell2331]

Pretty sure we plain missed it. We filmed this prior to the fate dice nerf (though it's still the same in combat patrol. It's possible we had the wrong sheets to be honest. Just means the rematch should be all the better!

[@thegrimdark40k]

Please more Combat Patrol! - Great stuff;

[@chetmanly8831]

This video is fantastic in showing how to play the game. Is there more content like this where they explain what they are doing?

[@helmutperchut1228]

I wasn't expect scarabs to be able to go through walls. As they are no infantry and therefore could not.

[@AtlantAvsThunder]

Again, awesome video, thanks for the joy! I'm still learning since I started 40k this year and play on helps me getting into it. And I saw one thing at 11:20 when micheal began his charge. He said it's 8" and instantly talked about a 7 on the dice. Is this the regular way of charging? Having 1" in mind for the pile in move? Im still struggling with all that pile-in and consolidate moves

[@davidarbour2683]

too much mistake rules in my opinion but its always nice to see necron battle

[@patrickdavis8271]

Excellent game! Well played!

[@m1northreat]

the sound kept tripping me out. great vid as usual!

[@jmkool01]

Nick in the background at 16:35 😂

[@Trashhobbies]

Are we getting a game with the new space marine combat patrol anytime soon?

[@marshallsheets2]

​ @PlayOnTabletop -- Hello Team, I love your content. I just can't get enough of the 40K action. Quick question for you. What is the material you use to outline your play area? I would like to do something similar to this for my own games.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

It’s neoprene strips cut to the length we need.

[@marshallsheets2]

@@PlayOnTabletop Thank you greatly. I did not expect such a timely response. You guys rock. Keep up the awesome work.

[@91elpiris]

I'm new to the game and I had heard Eldars were OP.. I now know why, LOL Dice fixing and overwatch on 4s.. crazy.

[@jimmiewd]

Hahah Nick kangaroo hopping in the background 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Cloudrunner1]

Just to let yall know, there are some really weird audio issues going on with the sound switch to only the left ear.

[@ThePurpleLady-86]

Epic intro

[@Haroith]

Not a chance for necrons. One gate play. Necrons: I roll some dice, please roll some saves. Eldars: I use fate dice, please remove models.

[@nicolamenichelli8257]

Best Episode ever

[@hlm896]

Aeldari dice choice a reference to the Aeldari toilet cheating dice meme? Has to be surely

[@SwissArmyDud]

The Magnet Baron: You WILL be disappointed 🤣🤣🤣

[@raedkhalil6937]

The different toughness in a unit does not matter. Because the bodyguard unit was alive when that unit was targetted all rolls are made against the bodyguard toughness, even if they die halfway through the attacks. Also, I know it hasn't been updated in the combat patrol but I think that's a mess up from GW. It's now restricted to one fate dice per phase max.

[@callumbrunton2761]

I loved this batrep! I'm so glad you're doing combat patrol. It's made me want to get a necrons box. Can I ask though, what's the paint scheme for those necrons? The blue especially looks amazing!

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Those are Michael's Necrons and I believe he has used the Nihilakh Dynasty colours

[@fredttv]

I may be getting this wrong but at the beginning of round 2 I think elder were holding 2 objectives and necrons were holding one. Eldar scored 5pts for holding one or more, another 5pts for holding more than the opponent, and then another 10pts for razing an objective. But as far as I am reading the rules the objective has to be razed at the beginning of the command phase and then scoring happens at the end of the command phase. Shouldn’t this mean that if an objective was razed the eldar player no longer holds more objectives than their opponent when it comes to scoring, which would result in 15pts? I’m interested in clarification for my own play :)

[@kiso07shorts]

i think votann vs aldari will be a great video next

[@travishayton1183]

Wraithlord doesn't get Strands of Fate in Combat Patrol

[@bloodraven5533]

Those damage rolls hurt my soul

[@TheBeeFlex]

WHO DID PAINT THESE NECRONS ? I wanna have his recipe 👀

[@TheBeeFlex]

Can at least someone tell me how to achieve that blue/turquoise on their armor plates ? 🙏👀

[@michaelbuckthorp977]

Hey! The blue is a sotek green base coat, I normally will have to do two thin coats to get a consistent finish. After that it is a overbrush of skink blue, followed by a much more selective dry brush of ushabti bone. Try to hit just the raised areas and or just the corner panels with the ushabti bone. Finally I will normally do two glazes of a watered-down seraphim sepia, the first one being all over, the second one being concentrated in the grooves and Shadow areas. Hope that helps! Tag my Instagram if you use the recipe!

[@TheBeeFlex]

@@michaelbuckthorp977 thank you SO MUCH 🙏 will be some time till i try it out, but will let you know !

[@markberghel275]

16:34 I spy my spirit animal

[@kraffles]

As a Necron player I really could relate to the game. Combat patrol is such a good way into the game, and also good for busy lives. Can you tell me where the command point dice you were using comes from? I really liked the idea of having the larger dice, but when searching, I just come up with squishies, foam and wooden dice.... As the datasheets are free now, what about having a link to just the datasheets etc used in each video, so we can grab them and kinda "play along". Would Games Workshop be okay with that?

[@PlayOnTabletop]

They are foam dice from the dollar store :)

[@kevinvanaken8633]

So who’s gonna tell ‘em you can fire out of combat w/blast weapons?

[@vexaris3428]

Woooh, Necrons!!!! ❤💀🤖

[@robertflannery4883]

its crazy how Michael managed to gain so many points in one turn

[@jontyhugh1080]

I saw that 16:33

[@kiso07shorts]

great battle

[@Whiffle09]

Surprise italic Italy 🇮🇹 2:18

[@GT-vl4of]

I'm still trying to learn, but at 19:01, when the Destroyers wanted to charge into the bikes, why did the Aeldari player chose to use Overwatch at the beginning of the charge move (which would grant the Necron player cover) instead of the at the end of the charge move (no cover)? My understanding is that you can overwatch at the start or end of a Normal, Advance, Fall back or Charge move.

[@PlayOnTabletop]

If you do it at the end of the charge move the u it is now in engagement range and that limits what can shoot.

[@GT-vl4of]

@@PlayOnTabletop Makes sense, thank you!

[@A-McDrae]

At 19:33 was that a was of the command point? Michael was fishing for sixes, and -1 to hit won't affect that at all right? Just curious because I'm watching your videos to learn the rules and tactics before I i play my first game. Thanks so much you guys are the best!

[@matheusmterra]

I'm new to necrons and 40k but I'm a bit confused why Michael let his warriors go down without using the Resurrection Orb on his Overlord or the Awakened Dynasty stratagem to trigger Reanimation Protocols on a model's death. Im trying to figure out if it was a missplay, a tactical choice or something I missed that says he can't use either of those.

[@kylekottenbrook8249]

So if I see someone playing Aeldari I should shake their hand and say have a nice day. Got it. Lol

[@revan3675]

Great video but I wanna mention how that overlord is not the correct one for a necron combat patrol

[@Dexter_Solid]

im just learning how to play this game, but the aeldari seem to be broken being able to just brute dice like crazy...

[@mcfructix7688]

Hi guys ! Something I miss : Why on the first round you activate the reanimation protocol you dont reanimate all of your Warriors ? You get a 4 so 4 are suppose to return no ? Because de Warriors have a D6 if I dont miss anyting

[@TheCrimsonArchivist]

Thats only if they are in range of an objective in full 40k, otherwise its just the D3, sadly necrons have almost no special rules in Combat Patrol

[@mcfructix7688]

@@TheCrimsonArchivist oh ok its true my god I miss that ! Thanks

[@mcfructix7688]

@@TheCrimsonArchivist oh wait I re-ready and its : each Time they activated their reanimation its D6 of its on objectif its D3+3 so im right its weird why they use like this

[@TheCrimsonArchivist]

@@mcfructix7688 yes but in Combat Patrol they only get the generic reanimation protocols

[@mcfructix7688]

@@TheCrimsonArchivist ah ok so in normal its fine but in this particular gameplay its less powerful I see thanks

[@Anlom415]

More combat patrol please ----- Tyranids

[@MrShinoTheBugman]

JC rolling all the 5's

[@ggdatboi]

Loved the game

[@kingxerocole4616]

I love combat patrol

[@Poopinagroup]

At 15:25 did he reroll a reroll?

[@countrytownify]

Would it be possible to get the combat patrols in their own playlist? Or am I just not seeing it? Thanks!