Playseat Challenge Mods: Trying to reinforce it (remove the back and forth movement)

[@jorgeper]

I used a straight (not L shaped) metal bracket I bought at the hardware store, stuck one end in between the base and the plate it screws on to, and clamped the other end to my desk with a C clamp. Gives me a lot of stability super cheap and simple.

[@waqaarosman2327]

It's not flex It's called DAS😂 Nice work though

[@marweco1824]

Just heat the 3D print with a heatgun or a hairdryer. Then you can get it in position without sandpaper and after cooling down it fits very tight. Much less movement in the stearing now!! Very cool. I print it myself with the model on thingiverse - thx to the creator!!

[@navig_8r]

Can you assist in instructions on how to fit the 3D printed sleeves. I have ordered them online.

[@TheRodoeht]

Do you mind sharing a link to the thingiverse page you found or how it's called on there? I can't seem to find it.

[@mikescott1050]

For the wheel mounting plate I bought a brace (along with a ton of other bits) from Mark at Lowdown Shifter. Great product and a great guy. I still need to address the play in the hinge as in your video, but Mark has said he's in the final stages of developing a solution to that problem. My two cents.

[@mrmalavey1098]

Had mine 5 years and had no issues with it, you do feel the vibration of the wheel through the whole seat but to be honest I kinds like it ( especially as when playing in vr) as it almost feels like having a motion rig if sorts, I've only got a t300 on mine though n after using a mates fanetec n feeling the power I can see how this need to be made stronger 😂

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Yeah I used to have a t300 on it and totally agree, it worked well. Just noticing the issues more with the Fanatec and hitting big curbs!

[@mrmalavey1098]

@@PaultheSimRacer big pimp daddy problems 😂 one day I hope to have the same issues 😋👌✌️

[@JoMaMaz]

@@PaultheSimRacer Do you feel the same issue could be caused with a Fanatec CSL Elite Wheel Base/Wheel setup? Or is it not as heavy/as strong as the CSW 2.5 to cause issues?

[@PaultheSimRacer]

@@JoMaMaz My friend has a playseat and CSL Elite and loves it - don't think he has any issues.

[@JoMaMaz]

@@PaultheSimRacer Good to know! Thanks for replying! 🙂👍

[@nathengonderman1491]

I use a playseat challenge and I run a Fanatec DD1. I have the same 3D printed parts for the wheel deck hinge but I have also added a support that goes from the wheel deck plate down to just behind the hinge using Ram mounts so I can loosen it and still tilt the wheel deck up. I have also made down tubes with camara mounts and ram mounts that go from the wheel deck hoop down to the pedal mount. all supports can be loosened in seconds and it all still folds up. I do remove the pedal mount from the rest of the seat to put it away at the DD wheel base 1.5 shifter and V3 pedals make it quite heavy if left as 1 large piece.

[@PaultheSimRacer]

@Neonnite - any chance of an image or video of it, I'm really interested in improving mine further. Also how's it with the DD1? I'd love a DD but figured it wouldn't work with the playseat.

[@nathengonderman1491]

Pro Sim Racer I do but I don’t think I can post here

[@PaultheSimRacer]

@@nathengonderman1491 Would you be able to email me a pic to [e-mail] - really interested to see how you have it setup.

[@axzhor]

Are you still able to fold the rig ? Sure appreciate if you could upload a pic it to imgur

[@nathengonderman1491]

A R Yes it can still be folded up and I’ll see what I can do about pics. I’m not familiar with I’mgur

[@sag2974]

I found that the wheel bounce was more pronounced when the base plate was on the furthest or nearest 4 hole positions. Because the centre of the wheel base isn't supported centrally by the bar, it has a slightly levering action once steering pressure is supplied, creating more up and down movement. Keeping the wheel base plate in the central position reduces this dramatically. Just adjust the chair instead.

[@Jocserify]

its not possible with fanatec... only most far away is possible

[@jmurr357]

Yea it’s not possible with the csl elite either. I’m going to see if I can drill my own mounting holes in a different position so I can mount it in the central position.

[@mystyleone1]

I think the flex makes it more realistic to me

[@CiroDiMaRzio12304]

ive never seen my dashboards moving back and fourth while driving.

[@williamwillett7773]

@@CiroDiMaRzio12304 👍

[@Eskoxo]

You could probably just use an extra strap or something near where it connects part and strap it down to the bottom of chair bar just to keep it really tight

[@Andehzarz]

I've been using the playseat here for about a solid 4-5 years. Started out using the G27 on it and now i've upgraded. I definitly know what you mean by the flexing from the wheel. Like someone stated in the comments, i have my set up prop against the table to stop any flexing movement. My only problem now is thinking of a way to mount me CSL elite pedal. I saw online where heavy duty Zip tie cables work really well but i want thinking maybe hardmounting it using 2 long steel bars.

[@daviddanser8011]

I just ductaped my elite pedals on the playseat.. it works

[@Andehzarz]

@@daviddanser8011I use to do this with my Logitech pedals but the the duct tape will not hold the Fanatec pedals from the force i'm braking from. I actually got these 200lb zip ties to secure everything in place. This thing is solid now and aint going anywhere

[@Claudinho571]

thanks alot for the vid. i am thinking of getting the csw.... would you recommend it with the challange seat? or csl elite?

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Yup I think either is fine. My friend is getting a CSL elite for his playseat, so will see what it's like when I try it. I like the CSW though, it seems to work fine with the playseat.

[@Claudinho571]

@@PaultheSimRacer which bolts did you use? Thanks again

[@xxczerxx]

How did you mount the Fanatec wheelbase? Did you drill holes? The only way I could do it was by moving the plate forward but now it's perhaps too close to me.

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Hi, I show how I initially mounted it towards the end of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWTFXpqPYr6UgZI - that's the 3 bolts in the triangle (but I also found it too close to me). I then moved the plate back (which meant I could only get 2 bolts in and not the front one of the triangle ... I did it up tight and to be honest - it is fine, doesn't move at all).

[@MrNewfield]

@@PaultheSimRacer i did it aswell like you except i drilled a little piece out of the challenge plate/ where the third bolt didnt get in, works perfectly

[@ivanharasta]

Hey man Im using G29 wheel and want to buy this Playseat with Fanatec loadcell pedals to improve braking consistency. Is it flexing when braking? I wont use the Fanatec wheel until I move to new flat and buy a better rig.

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Not if you cable tie the pedals on tight - should be fine.

[@sebudona]

I've had playseat challenge for a while now, but just upgraded to a fanatec wheelbase and clubsport v3 pedals. I got my wheelbase pushed against the table, so it eliminates the movement and theres no problem with that. However has anyone made or found, or is it even possible to make a mod for the pedals so I could use higher loads with the loadcell? I think it would need a whole new base under the pedals and somehow mounted differently on the chair...

[@PaultheSimRacer]

So I have Heusinkveld Sprint pedals on my playseat - I used lots of cable ties very tightly to secure it.

[@DavidAguileraMoncusi]

@Sebastian Stenius, I bought a luggage strap to keep the pedal base in place. The two red bolts that come by default with the seat are sh*t and don't stop the pedals from moving away... but the strap does a perfect job. Easy and effective!

[@rickydossantosjr5840]

Not sure if you figured it out yet but i used a 1-1/2" thick aluminum flat bar. Drilled out 4 holes and mounted it with m6 bolts (2-1/2" was perfect)

[@Pilot.0101]

This rocking motion on the playseat challenge just cost me a wheel rim. My fanatec wheel broke a pin off inside with the over rocking. Going back to my GT Omega from today...thankfully Fanatec ship quickly so my new rim should be here friday. Frustrating and costly though.

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Damn, sorry to hear that.

[@Watches_Anonymous]

How can the rocking motion damage a pin if the rim is properly connected to the base? Just cant see it... Speaking of that does anyone if im supposed to use the rim fixing bolt that came with my quick release fanatec rim and base set? Its included but whats the point of a quick release if i need to also screw in a screw each time?

[@armorgeddon]

Sounds more like a serious lack of quality on the Fanatec piece.

[@Claudinho571]

hey do you have a link for those camera things?

[@rtimmins7212]

I am thinking about ordering the same 3D printed anti Flex part. How do think the Part performs without your Camera Mounts. What did it fix exactly?

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Personally I think the camera mounts don't do as much as the anti flex part.

[@Powaup]

I struggle with the side to side movement, I'm constantly moving the seat back centered with my screen

[@micahlcurtis]

put some weight on the back floor brace

[@Watches_Anonymous]

Hi, how do i actually fit this? How far is the smaller piece supposed to go into the removable tube? And once fitted in said tube how far it is supposed to go into the larger diameter chair frame? Also does the button/stop mechanism near the hinge side still work with this in place? Fining it all difficult to visualise in my head and the pic aren't very clear to me.

[@PaultheSimRacer]

I struggled myself at first too. The smaller piece goes into the end of the frame tube all the way up to where it flanges out wider (this confused me as the one I got sent didn't fit into the tube at all, so I had to sand it down to fit). The larger bit goes over as far as it can go (it stops at a certain point). The button / stop mechanism still works.

[@Watches_Anonymous]

@@PaultheSimRacer thanks so the smaller tube with the new plastic part fitted goes completely inside the larger chair tube all the way to the same depth as it did before without the new parts?

[@PaultheSimRacer]

@@Watches_Anonymous Yeah by the end it all slots back together like it used to.

[@maco8010]

Great seat , but if your up stairs on a wooden floor the vibration is so load downstairs,,,would love help with this

[@MuffinStuffer_TV]

Put a yoga mat under it

[@maco8010]

@@MuffinStuffer_TV got an anti vibration mat but you can still hear it

[@MuffinStuffer_TV]

@@maco8010 damn that's crazy even then. Might not be the best "cockpit" for your situation then at this moment.

[@maco8010]

@@MuffinStuffer_TV seems to be coming from the wheel on the plate it seats on,,,might need to put something under that

[@pedroesally]

Him just one question! your seating position is too low for the desk ? if u can teel me your height of your desk and if u are on level of your monitors or too low. Thanks for the videos!

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Hey Pedro, I hadn't thought about the fact people may think I'm using those screens to race. I use VR to race. I agree, I would be too far away from those screens / desk like that!

[@pedroesally]

@@PaultheSimRacer thanks! i use triple screens and the desk have 75 cm heigh so idk but thanks for help!

[@lia01reg]

Updated my stability mod : kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4a4mIGXqpKUpZY @Pro Sim Racer if you're interested...

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Wow - that's some plumbing :) - have you seen my recent mod video too?

[@lia01reg]

@@PaultheSimRacer ooh no. What's the url?

[@PaultheSimRacer]

@@lia01reg KZbin doesn't allow me to post a link in a comment - but just search playseat stiffening

[@lia01reg]

@@PaultheSimRacer found it - much better!

[@francescodalessandro2121]

Can i weld the metal plat with the tube?

[@lia01reg]

Hey @pro sim racer - thanks for the idea here. You inspired me to do this slight modification which I think works best (I didn't try yours verbatim so not sure if it's better): kzbin.info/www/bejne/aompkK2Mep2UapY

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Will take a look at the vid - cheers for sharing.

[@rlane8511]

I just ordered these parts off ebay as well...Do they come with instructions? I'm still not entirely sure how these parts are installed? Any input or guidance would be much appreciated.

[@PaultheSimRacer]

So it confused me too, but actually was pretty easy in the end. You push the pin on the hinge of the bar (which holds your wheel), undo it from the frame. Put the big block over the top of it, then put the small block in the end of it. Then re fit to the frame. (Hopefully this with the video may help)

[@rlane8511]

@@PaultheSimRacer Finally got the parts and they were easy to assemble, assuming I did it correctly...The smaller piece, I slid that into the foldable / wheelbase tube until it was flush (opposite side of the turning locking mechanism), then slid the larger piece over it on the same tube. After sliding the foldable / wheelbase tube back into the chair and having the push pin engage, I found it to be more stable. However, just to make sure I did it correctly, I undid the pushpin to pull the foldable /wheelbase tube out of the chair and the smaller piece in that tube fell out and remained inside of the chair's tube (I know, a lot "tube" usage, it's hard to explain). I did notice that when installing the smaller piece it wasn't very snug, I probably should have glued it into position. That being said, I was still able to slide the foldable / wheelbase tube back into the chair where the smaller piece remained and am able to engage the larger block to stabilize that side. Again this all assuming I was installing it correctly....Maybe one day I'll have the proper tools and patience to fish out the smaller piece and superglue it into position. Hope this helps anyone else who gets these parts.

[@giogamer4825]

@@rlane8511 Are you able to make a short video or clear photo's with how to install it? Much appreciate if you can help other with how to install

[@gaboaaa23]

this is a shame.......for 200 Euro you have to felx, clamp and mod this seat? Thank gof ive bought it used for 100 Euros. So im not that much angry like i would if i spend 200 on it.

[@TimothyLittle13]

So this reinforcement kit will solve the problem of the wheel flexing into my lap when I sit in the chair?

[@PaultheSimRacer]

not sure what you mean - I don't think I've had that problem myself.

[@TimothyLittle13]

@@PaultheSimRacer The wheel keeps pointing down when I use it.

[@RevRideReason]

@@TimothyLittle13 what kind of wheel are you running on your playseat challenge ?

[@rickydossantosjr5840]

How did you remove the front part of the playseat challenge? im still trying to figure that out

[@PaultheSimRacer]

There's a button you press inside the pivot point.

[@wildgalway1559]

Where can I get a gear shifter for this seat ?

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Hi Wild, I haven't tried it myself - but these guys sell a shifter mount - www.lowdownshifter.com/ and you can then put a TH8A on there.

[@wildgalway1559]

@@PaultheSimRacer thank you

[@wildgalway1559]

@@PaultheSimRacer This site is no longer running. They do have the perfect idea to do.

[@n3osr]

Hey, great video! Can you share the ebay link to the camera mounts. If you like you can also send it by PM.

[@joaodimazsegundo136]

@Pro Sim Racer - if can you post the link i'd appreciate too.. looked for it on Amazon but didnt find it...best i could find is this...but i think it's short... www.ebay.com/itm/Jaws-Flex-Clamp-Mount-Adjustable-Neck-for-Gopro-Hero-5-6-4-3-Camera-Accessories/221880580655?hash=item33a91cfa2f:g:ZxsAAOSwbS1bcljO

[@PaultheSimRacer]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sturdy-Durable-For-Playseat-Challenge-Chair-Reinforcement-kit-Replace-Spare-Part/264562209164?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D9078fb66da6f4a92a274b6aa7a4e4f2a%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D5%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D143594922961%26itm%3D264562209164%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5f96d375-96f7-11ea-9b38-74dbd1802f65%7Cparentrq%3A1a5999c01720aa6a28001b33ffab3ce1%7Ciid%3A1

[@PaultheSimRacer]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sturdy-Durable-For-Playseat-Challenge-Chair-Reinforcement-kit-Replace-Spare-Part/264562209164?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D9078fb66da6f4a92a274b6aa7a4e4f2a%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D5%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D143594922961%26itm%3D264562209164%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5f96d375-96f7-11ea-9b38-74dbd1802f65%7Cparentrq%3A1a5999c01720aa6a28001b33ffab3ce1%7Ciid%3A1

[@hirohiko320]

good　idea！！

[@chaseshadow]

We're working on a mechanical solution for the base plate movement issue, to buy off the shelf. We offer the Playseat Challenge Accessory Range to all customers from around the world at www.lowdownshifter.com

[@PaultheSimRacer]

Awesome! Please let me know when you have it ready, I'd love to try it.

[@jmurr357]

Sooooo did you ever come up with a solution? Looked at the site and didn’t see anything about reinforcement for playseat

[@chaseshadow]

@@jmurr357 The answer to that is yes. It's part of the delayed launch, which is now set for 5th March. If you would like to see the product, drop me your email and I'll get some visuals over to you. Then if you decide it is the solution for you, I can will put you on the pre-order list. All on the pee-order list will receive the products before anyone else and before the 5th March.

[@jmurr357]

@@chaseshadow ok cool yea definitely it’s jmurr357@gmail

[@chaseshadow]

@@jmurr357 Hi, thanks for that. Later today I'll get you some visuals over. Is there anything else you feel would better your Playseat Challenge experience?

[@rboettger]

And here a Link for the Kit: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sturdy-Durable-For-Playseat-Challenge-Chair-Reinforcement-kit-Replace-Spare-Part/133483248955