Top 10 Best JRPGs On PS4

[@FlyingDragoon8]

We need more insight into these zoom meetings because that was hilarious.

[@GoFigure]

IKR! That's what I thought too.

[@dannyton8478]

Bloodborne's insight 😳?

[@darknarutokit]

Right

[@XirchsYamatoClyne]

Up you go

[@MohammadAli-fu3bb]

Trust me that's debate was amazing

[@meant2live35]

Im with Rob at the beginning lol. I've always thought of it as "Japanese RPG", not "Japan RPG." It's a stylistic way of approaching an RPG that originated in Japan, but a JRPG does not itself have to be made in Japan

[@da9el883]

so according to what you say, that makes Earthlock an jprg, even if it was made in norway? they were inspired by classic jrpgs from the 90`s

[@da9el883]

@222ckc it would still be made in US then. it could never be an original japansese kimono. i see your point, but do you see mine? jrpg stands for japanse role playing game. Western rpgs is different.

[@ShadowDaHam]

Japanese RPGs generally have a more comical style or as Western RPGs generally have a more serious tone in my opinion. Maybe I'll be misunderstood

[@stefantherainbowphoenix]

A "Japanese RPG" is an RPG that was made in Japan, duh.

[@tdanielmorris]

Trails of Cold Steel as a series is far and away one of the better JRPG's available on PS4. With the 4th installment coming out apparently this year in the west.

[@RoninXDarknight]

October 4thish...idr...I pre-ordered it the day it was announced :D

[@boltinabottle6307]

@Ian Mayer It's worth it though. I'm on CS1 right now I had to play Sky 1-3 and Azure/Zero first.

[@Xpalzin]

Agreed, Legend of Heroes is an amazing series, I have yet to come across its equal

[@josek998]

I'm glad that this is the first comment i saw because i was about to say the same thing, if you love JRPG you owe it to yourself to play the legend of heroes, and also the ys series, the soundtrack and gameplay are top tier, and the story of legend of heroes going on for 9 games for now, are like the marvel movies, alone is alright but playing them all is marvelous

[@TheRyliks]

SO MUCH THIS. Like I love Persona 3,4,5 I adore Nier Auomata, I played 500 hours of fricken Monster Hunter World and currently play FF7r. But I assume Rob sadly has not played any of the trails games. All I can say is: I didnt want to play the more than 10 year old trails in the sky games and thus started with Trails of Cold Steel 1.. then 2.. then I went through Trails in the Sky 1,2,3 and Azure and Zero.. then 3 and now I am waiting for 4 ( I do have a japanesew copy of 4 here though) Rob, if you by some miracle read this comment, please, you owe it to yourself to give the "Trails" franchise by Falcom a try. The world building is insane and no other franchise comes close, period.

[@woteveruk1]

i agree with rob on his definition of JRPG's BUT, i disagree with monster hunter world being a JRPG

[@VaellinTheBard]

Right! It's a particular style! Like Avatar the Last Airbender is an anime!

[@eigen144]

Its the same reasoning as Dark Souls. It's not a traditional JRPG

[@velvet_turtle7918]

exactly!

[@Pranksta1985]

You're as much of a clueless gamer as he is.

[@lyhthegreat]

back then i thought jrpgs were only turn-based rpgs and then slowly, action games got classified as jrpgs and then now pretty much anything qualifies as a jrpg as long as it's a game made in japan

[@paranoidandroid___1248]

Just sunk 150 hours into Persona 5 Royal, got the Plat, and fell completely in love with the characters all over again........probably gonna play through it again pretty soon too........don't judge me.

[@bernardocarneiro1982]

No one is judging you. Persona 5 is probably my favorite game of this generation. In a world full of wack "cinematic experience" games,playing an actual GAME like P5 is so refreshing

[@Dave_ja_vu]

I don't have Royal, but I do have the origibal p5 on ps4 at the minute along with Ni No Kuni 2. I haven't watched this list yet but I'm looking for ideas as I've never played JRPGs before and really enjoyed FF7 remake so trying to expand my gaming horizons. I can't wait to start Persona to be honest, everyone I've seen talk about it have been so positive.

[@Zero-rq9ti]

Persona was really underrated b4 P5 came. Glad it’s popular rn

[@paranoidandroid___1248]

@@bernardocarneiro1982 honestly I'm a huge Legend of Zelda nerd, and sometimes think of Breath of the Wild as my all time favorite game along with Ocarina of Time, and Twilight Princess........then Persona 5 came along. Totally on another level.

[@bernardocarneiro6029]

@@paranoidandroid___1248 bro Breath of The Wild is dope as hell. It also falls in the category of being an actual game,instead of a bullshit "cinematic experience". But I think I like P5 a little bit more

[@andrebaxter4023]

P5R and FFVII remake are definitely my favorites on PS4 thus far.

[@chacki4926]

Mine too!

[@txaky177]

And Nier Automata

[@callmepsycho3132]

I got P5R already last year, and that’s my number one currently. Then I’m getting FFVII Remake next month so I think that’s gonna be amazing

[@vulken9243]

@@callmepsycho3132 you will love it have fun :D

[@sheep5514]

Ff7 remake is amazing

[@YanxaW]

Please can we get a Tuesday checklist in the form of that Zoom call!

[@detectivemarkseven]

OMG YES!

[@iceman344]

The only games missing are The Legend of Heroes games. They are masterpieces and I cannot think of any other series that I got myself immersed in more. If you havent played any of it...do it!!!

[@gdoubleu8045]

I've played Trails in the Sky 1-3. I have CS 1-3 on my shelf and 4 pre-ordered, but wanted to play the two crossbell games first. I was hoping for an official English release, but may just have to play the fan translations before the backlog goes in to orbit haha.

[@evi6199]

THIS!

[@boltinabottle6307]

@@gdoubleu8045 The problem with Crossbell is it's accessibility. I'm an IT and networking professional so it was no big deal for me. I really hope Falcom sees how much we love this series in the west now and do a proper translation. I would buy it even though I've already played them. I know a lot of people who feel the same.

[@buddycal1]

For the record, I agree with your definition. Jrpg is a term for a STYLE of rpg that ORIGINATED in Japan, not an all-encompassing term for all rpgs made in Japan.

[@M-E_123]

But Dragon Quest famously copied its gameplay from the Western made Ultima series - so how exactly did that style of RPG ORIGINATE in Japan?

[@joeyle9015]

M E cause it is made in Japan

[@LAGxKALON]

M E its character design and art style all originated in japan and clearly distinguishes it as a jrpg

[@siorai1]

Expertly put . I agree 💯

[@buddycal1]

"Was perfected and expanded upon", then. Jrpgs are defined by the characteristics they borrowed from Ultima 3 but altered to appeal to Japanese sensibilities, particularly in included themes and art style, and even in jrpgs that deviated from the standard formula, there is still a time-based component to the battles that doesn't exist in arpgs or wrpgs because it doesn't remove the turn-based component. And until very recently, there was not a notable catalogue of western rpgs that possessed any of these characteristics. They were extreme outliers. Japan saw the potential and made it central to their video games. Western companies did not.

[@deadlyNation545]

I know this has already been mentioned, but I was kind of sad and disappointed to see that The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel wasn't on this list. Don't get me wrong, this is a great list but Trails of Cold Steel is such a great series. I was really glad when Falcom finally localized Trails of Cold Steel III. So excited for IV coming out in October!!!! Falcom deserves to have at least ONE game on this list with other great titles like Trails in the Sky, Tokyo Xanadu and Ys series.

[@opmnath]

I could listen to Dave, Rob and Rosie argue for hours on end.

[@steviewonder8656]

dont talk shite

[@yougottowinsometime7470]

You mean caddies sister

[@enderhx]

No. They meant Rosie. Cause she's cool on her own. :)

[@johnnythunders7975]

Just put what's here on endless loop - you'll get the same effect.

[@tomnguyen4673]

? Almost exit the videos because of that It was annoying AF

[@xtracheesepls776]

7:32 "Visuals more colorful than a swearing rainbow" I love that.

[@J-Runn87]

The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 1, 2, and 3 🔥

[@samshils4812]

yes yes and yes, so ready for number 4 to come to the west

[@jmr1415]

Absolutely, I've no idea what the hell Falcom have done to these guys but they've assiduously ignored their games for years, despite the Trails series being... well just epically wonderful.

[@J-Runn87]

@@samshils4812 same can't wait!

[@J-Runn87]

@@jmr1415 this franchise is highly underrated, but slowly starting to get recognized

[@J-Runn87]

@@oliverpicken3320 story, characters, battle system, music are great, but it's WORLD BUILDING is second to none.

[@TwinergyGaming]

Was hoping to see Trails of Cold Steel on this list!

[@pokeboi5438]

Feelsbadman

[@appetizingly]

Yeah, I get that the game isn't for everyone but not having it on the list or even as a honorable mention while a bog-standard, mediocre JRPG like the Trials of Mana remake gets a spot is pretty ridiculous tbh.

[@appetizingly]

@generic name Oh, don't get me wrong, the remake was pretty well done for what it is; I just think that Trials of Mana is a completely mediocre JRPG, remake or not. It pretty much doesn't have a single outstanding aspect.

[@Crashandburn999]

I don't think Rob has played it.

[@Jp-gc6bh]

@@appetizingly I played the first part on the vita. Super super slow start with too much reading and too little voice. I’m sure many others feels the same

[@Sirix22]

Agree with you Rob, Dark Souls isn't JRPG

[@wakkjobbwizard]

Sirix22 it was made by a Japanese studio in Japan. I say it’s a JRPG.

[@RainWalking]

@@wakkjobbwizard So does kingdom of Lordran and the "Gothic" theme. Sound Japanese to you?

[@brentmeyers9657]

Neither is monster hunter

[@NuminorTheFool]

@@RainWalking Does the city of Midgard and Nilfelhelm sound Japanese to you? Like seriously JRPGs are recognised not where they're set but by who makes them. Same way that if a western studio made a japanese focuses game it would still be a western RPG not a JRPG.

[@SuperKendoman]

@@NuminorTheFool Midgar, not Migard

[@nickstrife8312]

Rosie, Dave: JRPG are made on Japan. Rob: Dark Souls is not a JRPG! Civil War: Access Edition PD:. I´m Team Rob on this one.

[@unamite3762]

Nico Estefan ok so.. JRPG means Japanese-Role-Playing-Game. It doesn’t include every game made in japan, it’s a style thing. Persona, Final fantasy, etc, they’re all Jrps. This is because of their art style, their gameplay, etc. Dark souls does not fit in the jrpg genre because of the numerous big points it misses out on. Simply saying it’s a jrpg because it’s made in japan is kind of unfair as you don’t call rpgs made in the US “ARPGs” so yeah the Japanese part of jrpgs does not have to do with it specifically being made in japan

[@Feja2503]

@Unamite, ARPG, unfair? I think you're missing one big point here... We got the rpg games from japan, thus jrpg was created to split them apart. It would be weird if we called them Western RPG's(in daily life) since that is where we are (probably)FROM. But the term Wrpg actually does exist. Guess what, they use it in non western countries a lot. While japan called their games rpg.. Also, guess what, wrpg's are made in the west. So you complain about Arpg not existing, while we have wrpg. Which includes the US. Only i usually dont call stuff made in my country ... something. While a lot of people would give the name to something outside of it.

[@AlmightyPolarBear]

Yahtzee appears due to his love of Dark Souls.

[@liamjamieson8842]

@@Feja2503 I use the term WRPG a lot to differentiate from other types of RPG

[@ian_sear]

The Souls games are neither RPG or JRPG in my opinion. They have RPG elements but are too combat focused. I'd say Action Adventure. Or maybe just Action. Same category as DMC 5.

[@BritishSplendor]

I really hope that Zoom call was real! 😂 😂 😂

[@RainWalking]

It is scripted like all the rest

[@c1a2m3o4m5a6n7]

I think it was real. They do a LOT of bickering.

[@ERoBB1]

@@mydogeatspuke I dunno, Rob didn't look like he was enjoying being interrupted. Seemed like a friendly argument, that bordered on actually annoying.

[@soulscyther666]

Great list, but where the heck is Trails of Cold Steel series? I'd put it in top 3 along with NieR Automata and Persona series in terms of great story, not to mention it is VERY much jrpg to the core. I'd place it over Mana series if i had to replace one in the list.

[@n3r0n3]

if I had to replace something in the list I would definitely replace Ni No Kuni 2 and Dragon Quest (Sylvando is cool but really not enough to save the day!)... super mediocre stuff. The Cold Steel saga, as a saga (individually the single titles have obvious flaws), is a very epic one. Still they are vita ports, that is why they were not picked I guess.

[@rachetmarvel931]

@@n3r0n3 number 3 is a port?

[@Mr_Deku_Scrub_]

Yet again Falcom gets ignored with the lack of Ys8 and Trails of cold steel series :/

[@cobblerstubers]

Mr_Deku _Scrub Omg I love Falcom! Their games are some of my favorites! Not sure how they could omit the Trails of Cold Steel series... 😭 And I even enjoyed Tokyo Xanadu which pales in comparison to most of these but is still a fun game to play 😊

[@Mr_Deku_Scrub_]

@@cobblerstubers Oh for sure I loved Tokyo Xanadu. Felt like Persona/YS. Can't wait for another installment of the game. It's always nice seeing another legend of heroes/YS fan. Let's hope the series gets more popular over time especially with cold steel 4 and YS9 coming to the west 😃

[@lnsflare1]

@@Mr_Deku_Scrub_ Tokyo Xanadu is also "What if Persona 3 was Kingdom Hearts?"

[@hannayman4448]

True, YS VIII was amazing. Loved it

[@Mr_Deku_Scrub_]

@@SunlitSonata14272 Agreed :D

[@ColinLack]

Three more to add to the list: 1. The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (series) 2. Ys 8 3. Tokyo Xanadu eX+

[@edwinhai]

Tokyo Xanadu eX+ shouldn't be on a top 10 list. Its not better than any of the games mentioned in the video. Legend of Heroes I think should have a stop on the list.

[@SimonSater]

YS VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana is probably the second/third best JRPG I've played on ps4! Never played Trails of Cold Steel tho (is still too expensive and I didn't like Trails in the Sky)

[@AlmightyPolarBear]

What about "Shining Resonance: Refrain"? I'm joking.

[@wjoshua8668]

Strongly recommend series of Trails

[@stuartrodgers3194]

JRPGs, while being a subgenre themselves, have subgenres too: turn based (DQ and FF), strategy/tactical (Disgaea and Fire Emblem) and action (Nier Automata, YS and, yes, Dark Souls).

[@TerryRWilliams]

Not disagreeing, just a quick question. If Dark Souls is considered a JRPG (top level); then what do you consider souls-like games in general? Are they all JRPG's regardless of where they originate ? So if an American company made a souls-like, would it be considered a JRPG?

[@taevornreign1869]

Look at every other game you listed. They all have a sweeping story and certain sense of humor. Stylistically Dark Souls shares more with western RPGs like Elder Scrolls than any JRPG.

[@jasonsmith530]

And recent ff games? You wouldn’t call them action? As a hybrid don’t they side more on action?

[@paramsekhon526]

Isn't yakuza a jrpg too ?

[@stuartrodgers3194]

@@TerryRWilliams Yeah, I guess I didn't add much to the actual debate other than to reiterate it! I'd consider the J to be purely a product of it's development. But a flaw of my own logic is probably Dragon's Dogma, a very western RPG of Japanese origins...would I call it a JRPG? Probably not.

[@Icefire007007]

Gotta add Ys VIII and the Trails of Cold Steel as recommendation. Ys VIi especially was such a perfect game for me: seamless combat, percentage of exploration displayed, and great story with a couple unexpected twists.

[@normadicn5700]

No physical copies so skip for most

[@MVPatty15]

Ys VIII is criminally underrated

[@xavion15]

Normadic N Uh pretty sure physical copies are more skipped than Digital today

[@bagair1]

Me: *Sees title of video* Me: PERSONA 5 ROYAL LETS GOOOOO!!!

[@atharvajakhetiya5955]

Same here That game is FIIIIIIRRRRRREEEEE!!!!!

[@MiguelPerez-zm5rc]

10/10 game

[@user-yi5mt2df5q]

From platting Persona 5 back in 2017, is Royal worth it? By the way, I thought 5 was the worst Persona game I had played but it still is amazing. Just no 2, 3 or 4.

[@FeatheryMenace]

@@user-yi5mt2df5q Persona 5 royal is 100% worth it. Even more so if you played persona 5 in my opinion. Played both loved both. Play it!

[@otepezano]

@@user-yi5mt2df5q if you didn't like it, don't bother lol

[@jacobturner8965]

Playstation Access: "we won't spoil the start of Ni No Kuni" Also PlayStation Access: HERE'S EVERY DEVISTATING THING THAT HAPPENS TO VELVET AT THE START OF TALES OF BERSERIA

[@tornadotornado7250]

Won't spoil this game but will spoil the other game LMAO

[@jacobturner8965]

@Lekzie69 just a joke. But, true.

[@benokeeffe5958]

Whether it’s the right definition or not, any RPG that is made in Japan is not what I’m after when I’m searching for a top JRPG to play. I’m looking for fantasy, deep strategy/ turn based gameplay and a party of characters to micromanage 👌. Glad you stuck with your own interpretation, great vid

[@lnsflare1]

In that case you're not looking for a *Japanese* Role Playing Game, you're looking for a Turn-Based Fantasy RPG, regardless of its country of origin. Bam.

[@TwistedIrish1]

I wouldn't say necessarily turn based, can be free flow action as of today's jrpgs

[@M-E_123]

Like the Divinity series then? Or is that disqualified because it wasn't made in Japan?

[@comsroknayt]

I have to agree with everyone on the lack of Falcom games. Rob, if you haven’t played Ys VIII or Trails of Cold Steel 1,2 and 3, you are missing out on some of the best games of all time. I played both recently and had to kick some brilliant games out of the top 10 that had been there for Yeeaaars.

[@humbertochilo88]

He mentioned the journey that awaited the people who wanted to play KH3 because they then will have to play every game prior to understand the story. Well, he has some homework to do then if he wants to catch up to Trails of Cold Steel 3 (9 games). Any Top 10 JRPG list (on the PS4) lacking a Trails game is a list that I will have a rough time giving it some credibility.

[@robertcrawford2215]

I absolutely adore the Ys series, but I thought 8 was lackluster. 7 was absolutely superior

[@JanineC]

"Visuals more colorful than a swearing rainbow" - Rob's vocabulary doesn't fail to amaze me

[@Moments-in-Frames]

At first I was against Rob at the beginning when they were talking about what is a JRPG. But then he hit me with the "would you call dark souls a JRPG?" And at that moment my eyes were opened lmao Dark Souls is definitely not a JRPG. I do think it's largely a stylistic choice. With that same logic tho I'm not sure if I would include monster Hunter on this list 🤔

[@Moments-in-Frames]

And to add to this, I think it's important to note that while JRPGs might have started out as games simply made in Japan, they've become so iconic and unique that they've developed their own identity. There's a set of traits that we associate with JRPGs that have culminated over decades. And while there are a ton of RPGs made in Japan, if they don't fit into those traits we associate with JRPGs, we usually don't categorize them as such. When was the last time you asked someone what their favorite JRPG is and they replied with Bloodborne? Just doesn't really happen. So if you wanna be extremely technical, then yes all of these games are JRPGs, but no one is calling it that. Technically fireball is a kind of whiskey but no one shows up to a party with fireball if asked to bring whiskey lmao

[@EtchaSketch333]

Actually a lot of people do in fact consider blood born a jrpg. (google it) Im going to copy and paste a comment I made elsewhere because I don't want to type out basically the same response again but here is how I see it. "Dark souls is a jrpg. Its not that hard. It is an rpg, made in Japan. We have western rpgs (wrpg). Would you call a western styled game that was made in Japan a wrpg? I have played a krpg (Korean rpg) that is very similar to jrpgs (Magna Carta 2) but it is called a krpg because it was made in Korea. RPG is a genre. Jrpg, Wrpg, Krpg, ect, are distinctions between where that rpg was created, not a genre in itself. This is why games like kingdom hearts and the tales series can still be called jrpgs even though they have action combat instead of traditional turn based. If your argument is because of those games art style then are you saying that a jrpg is just an artistic genre distinction? If someone made an anime esc art styled turn base rpg in America would you call it a jrpg? If so, we will have to agree to disagree."

[@GoochTaylor]

There are JRPGs and there are action RPGs. Monster Hunter, for me, falls into the same category as Dark Souls and the like as an action RPG. Then you've got your open world RPGs, such as Witcher and the Elder Scrolls games. Basically, the J more stands for the stylistic and gameplay choices that set them apart from other RPG sub-genres.

[@mamayapapaya2303]

Honestly, dark souls and monster hunter have gotten so popular that they've basically started their own genres.

[@Moments-in-Frames]

@@mamayapapaya2303 an excellent point. So many games fall into the "soulsbourne" genre these days

[@HM11394]

Persona 5 “school life style” is the ultimate dream for geeks 😍

[@ivanjmestre]

You miss spelled "weebs"

[@SuperKendoman]

"Wake up, get up, get out there!" , But Persona, I'm self isolating and social distancing 😟

[@ci7210]

@@SuperKendoman This became my quarantine game

[@bernardocarneiro1982]

Unpopular opinion : P5 is the best exclusive on the PS4

[@bloodbornesurvivor6399]

@@bernardocarneiro1982 fax

[@ravenarine7688]

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is so great, it deserves its own tier. ❤

[@KatyWhitekavkj]

Damn. That summary of FF7R damn near brought a tear to my eye, Rob :) such a stunning game! Having finished my first play through (just wow) the next thing on my wish list was to find out what you thought of it after a full play through - sounds like your reaction was similar to mine! I’m still pinching myself I got to play it - and desperate for the next instalment ...

[@darksteelmenace595]

In my experience its actually one of the worst single player games I've played in a while.

[@Kaiser8513]

Feel if he was going to put a version of FF7 on the list officially it shouldn't just be for recency which it feels like was the real reason for redesign getting put here. I enjoyed the story and combat on it but not that it falls off for several hours just after the start

[@sonyafirefly3879]

I agree. Love it to pieces.

[@KatyWhitekavkj]

DarkSteelMenace different strokes for different folks, it seems. I loved the new combat system and the extra detail they gave to all the characters. I think it was a tremendous feat, made with evident love and care for the source material but still accessible for the audiences of 2020. :)

[@darksteelmenace595]

@@KatyWhitekavkj It looks good and it has its moments, but it also made me grit my teith in frustration a lot. I didn't enjoy the combat most of the time because a lot of encounters are either tedious and annoying or way too easy. Not much in between. The stuns and interupts in this game are a nightmare, so is dodging, it just doesn't work. The story and characters never really got to me, because it all lacks consistancy. The dialogues are either mediocre banter or just straight up garbage that make the characters look like idiots (looking at you Cloud and Berret). Overall i'd call it an ok experience, but definatly nothing spectacular and not even close in terms of quality to most normal rpgs.

[@The_MorningLight]

The Legend of Heroes Trails of Cold Steel is absolutely one of the greatest series on PS4 and it's deserve more love!

[@sanken21]

And Y's

[@sanken21]

@RageGetBest especially the last hope with the huge things to get an achievement

[@hexshadowman]

I cried so many times during Final Fantasy VII Remake and now I'm crying again from its entry in this video. I love video games so much.

[@theanimaster]

It’s that particular music track 😢

[@shioriryukaze]

@@theanimaster I'm already wanting the soundtrack

[@Cliffem82]

I was expecting FF7 concert tour this year. If there wasn’t covid...

[@TarksGauntlet]

#1: Trails of Cold Steel (Series.) Regardless of what anybody else puts at number 1, this is what deserves to be there, and the fact that it's still so undiscovered that it rarely makes anybodies top 10 list like this is a travesty.

[@Qubicle.]

yeah. whenever someone put a title in the line of "top ten" and "JRPG", it feels weird not to include kiseki series. I mean, it's not the best, and Cold Steel in particular isn't even in my top 10 if we talk about all platforms (but Trails in The Sky is definitely in my top 10), but, TOP TEN PS4 JRPG AND NO SIGHT OF TRAILS OF COLD STEEL? EXCUSE ME??!!

[@LuinTachibana]

Trails in the Sky failed to keep my attention. I can't imagine Trails of Cold Steel being any different.

[@n3r0n3]

well... as a saga the trails one is epic I give u that (pacing in Cold Steel is all but great for example but taken as a whole...). Berseria is more blatantly political and radical so personally that would be my n.1. Ni No Kuni 2 and DragonQuest11... hey it's their list they are entitled to do what they like. Anyway the Cold Steel games are vita ports, I believe that is why they were not selected. Just like YS8 for example. I may be wrong eh?!...

[@firekeeperiswaifu3092]

@@n3r0n3 May I ask how is Berseria radical and political? Genuinely curious here.

[@Gamingbrothers-ve4br]

I think its because of access ability more then anything. I really have wanted to get into the series, but I’ve been told it’s pointless to start cold steel without first trying trails in the sky which then I have would have a fairly more powerful pc and $100 just for the trilogy and spend a few 100 hours. All I want to do is play to Trails of Cold Steel because it looks the most fun yet I have to go through this just to get there.

[@hannayman4448]

Was so happy you mentioned Tales of Berseria, when their games are amazing, they're incredible. YS VIII is also amazing, looking forward to IX, also as mentioned by fans, Trails of cold steel was more fun than Persona 5 to me, altho I'm not into the school/ calender routine.

[@jeramahia123]

Berseria > Persona 5. The only reason Berseria is underrated is that Persona 5 came out the same day - I'll never forgive that series of glorified teenager-pandering dating-simulators for that!!!

[@Bradley_Lute]

I love the calendar. It makes for a pretty flexible gameplay loop where there is a ton to do outside of battle.

[@hannayman4448]

@@Bradley_Lute I found it the opposite. Glad you enjoy it tho. I prefer side quests, calenders make me pick & choose, so I intentionally miss things

[@takeyourheart1]

@@jeramahia123 that’s hilarious will you be here all week?

[@bradhansen8506]

P5 got me into JRPG’s, and now i cant get enough of them. Trails of Cold Steel is and AMAZING series!!!!!!

[@mattl.3453]

Sub-series to be precise...

[@sikandarabbas1305]

Not including Trails of Cold Steel is criminal

[@justarandomstranger279]

Yup! but that game, the whole series itself, is a game that doesn't need someone's approval to be a good game because it is already amazing as it!

[@fintansky9369]

Not as good as the ones on the list though but it is up there.

[@manbearpigsereal]

@@fintansky9369 It's better than everything on the list sans perhaps Nier Automata and P5R

[@weirdandtrue4441]

One of the best I ever played

[@sanken21]

I got some homies like that game

[@CoreyKaha]

I've just started watching but have to say this: a JRPG has become a whole genre in it's own right and no longer refers to any RPG coming out of Japan despite what JRPG stands for. So Dark Souls for example is both a JRPG and not a JRPG, as for games coming out of other countries that follow the JRPG format I still wouldn't call them JRPGs but that's just me and my hang up :)

[@jayflex6]

I'm just appreciating we're basically getting a Friday feature on a Wednesday

[@RULe57]

And with 10 entries to boot

[@chadcondit6360]

I would add Ys VIII. Bought the game on a whim because I thought the art looked pretty, and it became one of my favorite JRPG's. It combines flashy real time combat, non-linear exploration, and a compelling story. Try it, it's real good!

[@AxLWake]

Yes, Ys VIII is amazing. Played it on the Vita. One of the best games on the system.

[@bakaryansama]

The Last Remnant Remastered is a good JRPG on the PSN store in the Big in Japan deal. Pretty unique turn based battle system where you create teams / unions instead of the standard level up your character and a pretty good story. Definitely worth a go.

[@Squeenix1]

Do you know if the BR scaling difficulty is the same in the ps4 remastered version as it was in x360. I made the mistake of doing all side quests in the 360 version and in late game it became so difficult and I lost interest because I hated the idea of being punished for enjoying the game. I wasn't even grinding that much I don't think.

[@joshroomwymbsy312]

@@Squeenix1 Yea, the BR scaling has been pretty much untouched unfortunately. I started a fresh playthrough on the remastered version recently, forgot about that issue myself, and then started getting kaned about half way through because I spent too much time on low level grind quests. Still mangaed to push through, but I have temp put it down for now cause the time investment/luck required was starting to irk.

[@JC-cb8oi]

This one of my faves! Currently working on the plat but honestly a low-BR run is mandatory for maximum fun unfortunately.

[@mesothelimoa341]

The PC version of the original had a simple tweak that gave you full control over the equipment and development over other characters. It made the game so much better.

[@bakaryansama]

@@mesothelimoa341 I'd say that the remaster comes from the PC version. On the Xbox 360 version I had, you had a limit to battle leaders and soldiers whereas the remaster there is no limit to leaders.

[@MikeRKO316]

Trails of Cold Steel series is amazing. Recommended to me as a Persona fan and I fell in love with a whole new world. I'd take out Monster Hunter though. When I think JRPG I think deep evolving story with unique diverse characters... I don't think MHW had any of that. Fun game, but doesn't deserve to stand next to the rest of the list.

[@dhaynes325]

Finishing ToCS 2 about to start TCoS 3. A great series. I highly recommend the series

[@rikkucrowe]

Trails of cold steel was a blast I played the demo for 3 then binged 1 2 and 3 on ps4 and I want 4 now!

[@kazenna]

Trails series* gotta acknowledge Sky and Crossbell they’re just as outstanding

[@hotmango5647]

Crossbell is the best, imo.

[@MikeRKO316]

Sky was never released on ps4 and crossbell was never released in America so for ps4 cold steel is the only option. I saw a playthrough of sky 1-3 though. Great story. Id miss the additions from cold steel if I went back to play that though

[@WebstersYouTube]

Go on, how proud of yourself were you when you nailed that FF logo to gameplay transition? It's okay, you can tell us. You can gloat. You've earned this one.

[@evi6199]

Just echoing everyone else with Legend of Heroes Trails of Cold Steel, severely underrated JRPG. Also Atelier series needs to be said, great blend of Alchemy and RPG goodness.

[@ArcturusDeluxe]

Rob is right, there are defintely enough specific tropes associated with the term "JRPG" that it has become a genre unto itself. Having the term rigidly refer to as 'an RPG made in japan' seems so pointless now, since Japan has put out western style RPGs and the west has put out Japanese style RPGs, what would be the point? If that's literally all it means then just say RPG.

[@waveplay3978]

yup this one gets it. It may have original meant RPG made in Japan, but at that time those games were stylistically so different from Western games that the term became increasingly associated with the stylistic conventions (anime aesthetic and tropes, linear narratives as opposed to focus on maximizing choice & consequence), outgrowing the geographical distinction. Dark Souls is the PERFECT example of how this rigid definition is outdated now.

[@ohno5804]

JRPG means japanese RPG

[@Valancet]

@@ohno5804 that's what's called surface level understanding.

[@ohno5804]

@@Valancet look up the definition. if you do that you will understand why you and rob are wrong. an acronym is nothing more than an acronym. J stands for Japanese in the acronym JRPG. there is nothing more than that to it.

[@JukaDominator]

I've never seen the West make a "JRPG style" game. Neither the opposite.

[@HazardousJC]

Rob, I fully agree with your thoughts on what makes a JRPG!!

[@lulutheotaku6002]

I had my “not technically attached but still somehow floating behind me” anime sword ready just in case Nier Automata didn’t make it on this list. Glad I didn’t have to use it.

[@TheDvsBstd]

Kingdom Hearts 3 and Persona 5 ought to be my favorite JRPGs this gen.

[@thestrivinghero9536]

KH 3 was an abomination to the series.

[@vvipshah]

Yep i hve played both monster hunter world is also amazing

[@montanaschultz6753]

KH 4 is coming

[@kamui3506]

I just reached the final palace in Persona 5 Royal and it is so refreshing to see that the final palace ruler actually has a “good” reason on doing what they are doing compared to the previous rulers

[@tholm891]

Lol, keep playing Edit: I'm not disagreeing.......just...keep playing

[@tiphotisted]

Lol

[@normadicn5700]

Spoilers 😡

[@cassandramuller7337]

I feel like Rob is the authority on jrpgs here... I can feel his pain at that discussion through the screen :P

[@James-gj8rn]

That arguement at the start made me laugh so hard :'D this is why i like PlayStation Access, you always brighten everyones day in these tough times (so from the bottom of my heart, Thank You)

[@Andriodacg17]

Sony scored *big* with managing to keep Persona 5 an exclusive title.

[@reiko57]

is it really that good though?

[@blissfulf9045]

@@reiko57 i would say its the best jrpg japan could offer

[@christopherliu3981]

Agree PR5 is best JRPG IMO, but I don’t like that they did exclusive for the reason that so many ppl haven’t had the chance to play it

[@Niningchan_cosplay]

@@reiko57 the persona series in general is actually pretty amazing and was quite underrated until P5 came out. I started off with Persona 3 for PS2 and it is a masterpiece. Persona 3 and Persona 5 are one of my favorite games and you should definitely give it a try! (P4 was good as well, but I didn't connect as much to this game than to the other two mentioned)

[@rainbowcake1818]

It is one of major reason I bought PS4 actually

[@erikng6487]

Nier automata definitely deserves to be included

[@kingkev6407]

That's what I'm saying smh

[@zachjennings5320]

I don't think they're considering it a jrpg here

[@CODBlackOps6WALKTHROUGH]

@@zachjennings5320 its not stylistically even though it is right

[@foras592]

@@zachjennings5320 it's more of an jrpg than Monster Hunter is.

[@kaitomelt]

NieR is not a JRPG.

[@gamesmaster0459]

oh man now you're talking my language. A lot of your list is debatable but I love most of them. Titles I would include are Dot hack GU one of my personal faves they recently released a last installment in the series for PS4, Grandia especially Grandia 2, Wild Arms most notably 3 but Alter Code F was cool too.They had a Wild Arms 4 for PS4 as well.Keep up the great work PlayStation Access.

[@ty_sylicus]

I'm with Rob, JRPG is a sub-genre of RPG.

[@humzakhan30]

Ty Sylicus and dark souls is a jrpg

[@zamon8erz10]

He contradicted himself having nier, ff7r and kh3 especially on that list. I mean Disney films are as far from Japanese art style as you can get. JRPGs have evolved from what they used to be and just cuz they don't use the same old star ocean/dragon quest type template they are still a jrpg as the whole genre has evolved some stay true to the old template and I geuss that's where the argument comes from but i think action RPGs made in Japan count no matter the art style or mechanics. Its all about where its made I think. It used to be true and still is like a lot of this list but Japanese games have western influence now days like Zelda breath of the wild a jppg but really western feeling In Design, Just my thoughts anyway

[@liamjamieson8842]

@@zamon8erz10 I mean yeah disney is very western but KH is pretty much equal parts disney and FF. The games feel very japanese. I agree with what you are saying though

[@CBZero]

Trails Series!

[@stuartrodgers3194]

And bump for Trails Series. AMAZING

[@maddu8437]

Access crew arguing over the meaning of JRPGs honestly made my day.

[@kevincoughlin3455]

Have they ever done a video involving the Legend of Heroes series? I'm really curious to know Robs thoughts on it.

[@Qubicle.]

idk about you, but for me Cold Steel 1 is the worst one yet in Trails series (havent played 2 and 3), it's still a solid JRPG, just worse than other games in the series imho. As a video games series it's definitely my top 5 of all times, but as a standalone game, Cold Steel 1 just won't cut my top 10 ps4 Jrpg too.

[@boltinabottle6307]

@@Qubicle. I feel the same as I just finished CS1. It feels like a setup game but as of right now it doesn't hold a candle to Sky SC. I heard CS2 and 3 are amazing compared to 1 so we'll see.

[@fierytigergaming8112]

@@boltinabottle6307 CS2 has a bigger world and an amazing new mechanic (Overdrive), and a different continues over into Trails 3 [Spirit Unification] (Which introduces orders - adds benefits in battle)

[@lozzimusprime]

Omg XD this whole video is GOLD! Not only are all the games mentioned bloody perfect but the editing and arguing is fantastic. Thank you guys for keeping us sane with all the fabulous content you provide. Stay safe, stay awesome!

[@ravenarcher6080]

Dave and Rosie are wrong, Rob is right. @Me as much as you want, you'll be wrong and your screams will be ignored =)

[@sonyafirefly3879]

I hope Dave, Rosie, and Nate read these comments later because almost everybody is agreeing with Rob, hahaha.

[@ravenarcher6080]

@@sonyafirefly3879 Or at least Rob, so he knows we got his back =) He really looked hurt when the others were attacking him with their nonsense =(

[@joaocolaco1498]

Dave and Rosie should do a mea culpa and apologize to Rob

[@shineinouzen7412]

Damn the "Trails of" series is criminally underrated.

[@obsidianbutterfly8559]

I feel all PlayStation access videos should be done in skit form from now on 😂

[@jbrooker1989]

I second this!

[@Kyubi2345]

This was simply Beautiful! I'm now purchasing Tales of Berseria as I write this! Thank you

[@anthonycastro9679]

The only disagreement I have is MH World being a JRPG 😅

[@mlucasl]

Well Monster Hunter is a lot more than JRPG than dark souls, but not as much as persona. Monster Hunter is as much as a JRPG as the Witcher.

[@Daveigus12]

And dark souls. Im a huge MH fan. But makes no sense MHW is jrpg and souls is not!!

[@newuserO1191O]

How about we create a specific sub-genre for MHW? BR-RPG, Boss Rush-RPG.

[@anthonycastro9679]

I listened to the video passively while cleaning lol. I don't consider Dark Souls nor The Witcher as JRPGs either. To me they just lack the aesthetic and gameplay of a traditional JRPG.

[@Alpharexx]

It's not even an RPG, let alone a JRPG. It's more like an action adventure game with a giant dinosaur-like monsters.

[@lf3272]

Dave: "just because there's no chocobos in it" 😂

[@adityariyer6794]

Persona 5 Royal is easily the best one.

[@DankDoggo]

Aditya Iyer P5 Royal made me feel things. What a journey that game is. Got it at launch and played it every single day til I finished it. I only wish they let us have a mode with Yoshizawa joining at the start.

[@adityariyer6794]

Dank Doggo The thing is I played the original Persona 5 at launch and thought it was one of the best JRPG’s of all time. Now with P5R I actually think it is THE best. Also, agree about Kasumi. Best girl!

[@beastygotskilllz4470]

Persona 5 R is so much better than the first which was already an incredible game. The additions of Kasumi and maruki aswell as akechi becoming and actual confident just made it that much better

[@mondothegrunt7649]

It jumped up to my 2nd favorite game now after the release of Royal

[@adityariyer6794]

Beasty Gotskilllz Maruki is like such a goddamn good character.

[@jurasj00]

Yakuza 7 Like a Dragon (Quest) not yet in english, but soon. Can't wait.

[@declinefan]

No Trails of Cold Steel? Disappointing

[@declinefan]

No YS either.

[@chillchill2779]

I was about to comment on the lack of Trails of Cold Steel, I'm about 20 hours in the first one and I already think its fantastic.

[@chaosstorm8307]

I think the reason why is because this is for PS4... You can get Trails of Cold Steel on PS3.

[@Xerinoth]

I absolutely adore The Last Remnant! It's such an amazing game with a beautiful and massive world, so many characters to interact with and add to your unions, and a combat system so unique and well thought out I find it difficult to think of another game to compare it to. It's made by Square Enix and honestly I think it's one of the best things they've ever done, and I've been a fan of the company's games since Brave Fencer Musashi (an absolutely wonderful game I played on ps1). If you haven't played either of those games yet you should really give them a go. BFM is still lots of fun to go back to and TLR is just phenomenal altogether.

[@Xerinoth]

@I'll taketh thy cheese by force I'm glad I convinced you! The game is worth every minute put into it and once you start it's hard to put down.

[@nix2939]

I got the plat in The Last Remnant. Its an odd game and flawed at times, but very cool once you figure out its quirky systems. Enjoyed it a lot overall

[@undergnomes6248]

We need a video of that whole arguement!

[@TheFlyinSquirrel]

You guys are my favorite channel on youtube. Please don't ever stop!

[@chresna1]

Golden era of JRPG is late 90's and early 2000's, and yes my era... 🤩🤩

[@rockutron9000]

The Access motion comics are hilarious @ 4:56 and 6:59 It's like the video thumbnails come to life. Valkyria Chronicles 4 is beyond dope and I'm glad it got some love. It made me appreciate turn based combat more and sort of re-awakened my desire to play JRPG's again. But I can't cosign Nier and Monster Hunter as JRPG's. They are action games and at that point you would have to also consider Dark Souls a JRPG as well. But by all means everyone play them. They are incredible games.

[@jigga69000]

Persona 5 Royal and Final Fantasy VII Remake are my two favorite game of this generation.

[@bernardocarneiro1982]

Good taste

[@KJShinra]

Literally have never heard anyone call Dark Souls JRPGs lol I’m with Rob on this one..

[@brady2277]

Persona 5 royal, what a perfect game

[@MGM_Think]

I think Digimon Cyber Sleuth should get an honorable mention, a really good game.

[@Alpharexx]

I preferred Hacker's Memory but I agree.

[@leomaxwell1748]

GoMhaaad I preferred next order

[@mojtecool9703]

wow no mention of atelier series or legend of heroes trails of cold steel? SMH

[@evi6199]

Im amazed that the Atelier Series or Legend of Heroes is never ever mentioned, in no feature videos or store releases, they are some of easily the best JRPGs around and are never mentioned in any PS Access videos.

[@jinyboi]

I love ps access. I love jrpg. Combined the two and I'm on cloud 9. One of my favorite vids on this channel. That Rob Dave skit was hilarious

[@bloodbornesurvivor6399]

Persona 5 Royal is my favourite game of all time. I've never played anything that even comes close to the level of perfection that game captures

[@95kolman]

I played nier automata, Persona, 3, 4 Golden, 5 and persona 5 royal, ni no kuni 2 and wait for my copy of FF 7 remake. Thx Rob without you and your Friday lists I wouldn't heard about those games and thx for this list and those recomendations. PS. I agree about Dark souls. If you want JRPG like Dark Souls play Code Vein

[@fffan11]

I would have added World of Final Fantasy to the FF honorable mentions.

[@angrylegatus6716]

Auron Cloud Yes because it's a genuinely good game despite being more geared towards children.

[@sundryestudios1887]

World of FF was far superior to FF15 for sure

[@jbrooker1989]

@@auroncloud5667 I'll have to disagree with you there. It was superbly cheesy, the whole balance and stacking mechanic was very clever and as someone who has played near all of the final fantasy series and spin offs it was well worth shoving the time in to it. Super cute too. End game boss battles were challenging at times too.

[@jbrooker1989]

@@sundryestudios1887 maybe 10-2 😂 not 15! Even though I may have platinumed WoFF before 15.. shhh

[@jbrooker1989]

@@angrylegatus6716 also aimed at long time fans of the series who wanted something unique and the chibi thing was in I guess? Haha. Who doesnt want to summon a ridiculously cute one winged angel?!

[@Jagielka06]

Have these top 10 videos quietly become Access' best videos on the channel? I think so. It would be much easier for them to publish a generic top 10 list (it would probably still be a pretty good video). But I really appreciate the time and effort they put in to add the little extra parts to flesh out the videos (the in-jokes, the gags, the zoom meeting etc). All these things add a big chunk to their workload and editing, but make such a massive difference to the final product. It makes a good video into a great one. The Access team are absolutely smashing it with videos and streams lately - the hard work hasn't gone unnoticed. Thanks guys!

[@cmsmithy1234]

JRPG’s are just the best thing ever, great list just downloaded dragon quest XI from the big in Japan sale (50% off 😁😁) and 80 hours later I’ll download trails of mana. Man I love games, being a gamer is just great

[@dobadobadooo]

My top 10 PS4 JRPGs (with ports and remasters excluded, and only one entry per franchise): 10. *Valkyria Chronicles 4* 9. *Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth - Hacker's Memory* 8. *Code Vein* 7. *Final Fantasy VII Remake* 6. *Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age* 5. *Tales of Berseria* 4. *NieR: Automata* 3. *The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III* 2. *Yakuza 0* 1. *Persona 5*

[@MicMacIRL]

Dark souls is more of an rpg than monster hunter is.

[@DayFul]

Facts.

[@Dave_ja_vu]

Its an RPG for sure, just doesn't fall under the JRPG subcategory because there's more to it than just being made in Japan

[@ifrit1937]

Eh neither fall into jrpg though imo....hell rather than a rpg i consider Monster Hunter it's own genre (Hunting) now or just plain Action genre rather than rpg.

[@pein260]

Neither are Jrpg imo

[@Israel_hans]

Well done Rob for puting trial of mana in,Loved serect of mana on ps4.Trying to get my grubby little hands on a physical copy of trial of mana.

[@JayColor]

I’d love to watch that entire Zoom meeting.

[@NoctLightCloud]

I agree, Final Fantasy VII Remake is essential. Everyone who has a PS4: get that game. It's brilliant. I cried 3 times while playing it. Two out of those three times were because it felt so epic and next-level. The third time was because of a sad moment that caught me off-guard. I never thought I'd cry over such moments in a video game. Also, I laughed out loud countless times while playing it because of the humorous and witty dialogues that reminded me of the PS1 original. I also grinned throughout whole scenes due to them being, well, simply fun to play. That game is pure fun!!

[@MyManJFKTV]

I agree with Rob. There’s a difference between a JRPG and RPG outside of the Japan designation. Dark Souls is not a JRPG.

[@brianlaudrupchannel]

So define what is a jrpg

[@aaronwilson3437]

Suikoden 2, absolutely incredible game! Vandel hearts (a trpg but valkyrie chronicles is aswell) the original Suikoden was one of the first games i ever played on ps1 and i instantly fell in love! When vandel hearts 2 came out it came with a suikoden 2 demo which i just played over and over again until i got the full game!

[@johngingras]

That Dave and Rob skit. Hahaha! brilliantly cheesy.

[@blue1984]

I love PS Access videos with Rob narrating. Love his passion. This channel would not be the same without him.

[@cRub3r]

Literally asked for recommendations for more, Rob Talks About JRPGs videos on Reddit, I'm going to pretend you saw my interest.

[@mattl.3453]

I agree about Tales and Valkyria Chronicles and Drakengard/Nier series. I think you missed some like Code Vein as well as Resonance of Fate 4K (even the non 4K version back on PS3) and idk, Trails of Cold Steel, which, in my opinion are more than deserving a spot on this list.

[@MrFutago87]

One series of JRPGs that get a bit unrecognized but should absolutely not be overlooked is The Legend Of Heroes: Trails Of Cold Steel. Great combat, fun characters, great worldbuilding and a several games spanning plot. It's really something more people should play.

[@J-Runn87]

Cold Steel 3 prob my fav jrpg so far this gen, still have to wait for Cold Steel 4 and a few other jrpgs coming out to make final judgment

[@DZlegend]

2 things 1. Glad Persona 5 Royal got the love it did as it's my favorite jrpg ever alongside base P5. 2. On to my favorite JRPG series Kingdom Hearts. Ya can't say KH3 is a "sendoff" when we've been told for countless years that after 3 is the start if a new saga that will still star Sora. Now it's just a matter of how are we getting him back.

[@jesserichards9812]

I literally wanted to shove paper in my mouth like Rob when the others were trying to tell him what a JRPG was

[@jinyboi]

I was honestly starting to get fatigue from jrpgs and then ff7r came out of nowhere, brought about a much needed breath of fresh air into the genre and rekindled my love for the jrpgs