IS THRASIOS THE BEST COMMANDER IN cEDH - Play to win | cEDH Gameplay

In the past three weeks, each episode has produced a deck with two wins. We decided to put those decks up against the best deck in the format, Thrasios and Tymna, to see how they do.
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[@dylanbaley4289]

Cam: T1 mana crypt into bloom tender. Also Cam: Grim monolith? tHaT's A lOt Of MaNa

[@josefranciscodasilvaeolive674]

As a fellow Gitrog player I can't stress this enough: You are the fastest deck at the table and need to act like it. If you're not winning by turn 3, then it better be for a good reason. Press more and go for the win!!

[@geoffreygarfein9169]

I love EVERY SECOND of this video. The quick flash of you guys table dancing to the music made my day! Excellent video my guys. Just excellent.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Thanks Geoffrey!!

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

I'm curious, have you done "What is the best Thrasios deck in cEDH", with Vial Smasher Thrasios, Tymna Thrasios, and Advantage Thrasios? I think that would be pretty fun

[@icekutku]

and blue pod ;)

[@timdbowery6304]

Akiri thrasios Advantage thrasios i think. Some are replacing akiri with bruse taral

[@icekutku]

@@timdbowery6304 those are 2 different decks. Bruse tarl thrasios is blue pod. With akiri it's advantage thrasios

[@michaeldesjardin705]

@@icekutku They aren't two different decks. People are replacing Akiri with Bruse Taral in advantage thrasios to neoform/eldritch evolution into seedborne muse

[@MekanikKommandoh88]

Ice Kutku Bruse Tarl is becoming a popular alternative to Akiri in the Advantage deck. It really depends on if you want to Neoform into Zirda or a Muse.

[@Boggsman]

James Franco plays cEDH

[@HansHurin]

Finale can search your graveyard as well. And you only get the shuffle "if you search your library this way"

[@fosterdawson7339]

i actually did not know this!

[@austinvonjohnson9307]

How did no one call out that Thrasios was the only blue deck on the table? Seems like the lack of interaction on the stack made a difference.

[@explodingporpise]

Love you guys editing in more shit talking, imo I'd still like a 1-2 sentence synopsis of the decks at the beginning

[@georgekatoufas8267]

I laughed so hard in the last turn. One shares some information, the other steals the game in no time! Excellent material as always guys, i love the channel.

[@ianross9475]

Rewatching older videos because this channel has by far the best content...

[@mongopoju]

Consultation is very dominant in a pod with zero stack interaction like yours. Godo, Yisan and Gitrog can't do anything.

[@LaCasadelComandante]

Not enough blue in the tabe. But love the game!

[@milna64]

Agreed. This was a great pod for Thrasios and I feel he got a little lucky falling into consultation with minimal effort each game.

[@ilosthope.]

Dude i wish there was no blue legit the worst color in cedh and mtg 😂😂

[@mongopoju]

Just jam Oracle + Consultation and tutors into a pile and call it a deck

[@jewpcabra666]

7:50 made me so happy in so many ways. Fantastic video per usual - LOVE that maneuver

[@Aeonsmagicks]

Favorite cedh channel by far. Three games in one video makes it way better!! Keep it up guys.

[@keep7smiling]

Of all the edh content I've been watching, this is easily my favourite. Awesome videos, wish I could join. I bet it would be alot of fun! Love the dynamic between you guys. Cheers

[@Scully94]

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that if you don't search your library with Finale, you don't get to shuffle. I believe Cameron shouldn't have been able to shuffle away that Demonic Tutor. Love the videos, keep it up!

[@abdulazizalzeer4096]

That Stranglehold though lmao! Amazing video as always ♥

[@suntitan4419]

This is an absolutely top notch video gentlemen. That first game is exactly what makes me think maybe I would like to play cedh I have been thinking about trying it for awhile now but some of the staples are so expensive. I mean it looks so fun unless you have to go up against thrasios he seems beast

[@robertbauerle5592]

Yea I've learned than if you're going to destroy something on the field and you aren't sure what to hit as there's no massive threat on the table, always hit something from the tymna thrassios deck. It's never unwarranted hate - the deck is just the best, and they do it while looking like they're the same as other decks lol.

[@noahmurtha4036]

I’ve been playing my Haldan and Pako deck for cEDH and I love it haha. It’s definitely become my favorite cEDH deck I’ve ever built. I’d love to see one of you guys pilot a version at some point because you basically get to play control and have it be somewhat decent since Pako exiles/draws you usually 1-4 cards on attack

[@AspavientosPC]

What's the music at the beginning of the second game? So groovy I started dancing in my kitchen!

[@redwoolsocks]

It's so good to see you guys say "begin" at roughly the same time again lol

[@AuthenticLucidHope]

That was impressive, Thrasios/Tymna still the deck to beat! Also, Oracle + Exile Effects is disgustingly efficient.

[@alexgillard7886]

Really great games as always. A little loose play here and there actually makes for better content because you guys are transparent and laugh about it. TnT is a powerhouse at a table with as little interaction as this one so there was no surprise it just cleaned up 3-0. GGs my dudes!

[@viclecool]

At this point i'm just watching over and over all your videos

[@snapkeepmtg8511]

Solid video, the stranglehold moment first game was awesome. Unfortunately, Thrasios was still way too far ahead by that point even with the mistake.

[@tyranozaur_flex9933]

Thanks for another amazing video. Good thing that Cam is back

[@wallbant928]

my fav cedh channel

[@ulavala3798]

That Stranglehold play though, hella flashbacks to some of my games :P

[@theguardian9629]

Where do you get your proxy lands from?

[@darbymckilkannoncaid3279]

I am also curious about this

[@brennanwwheeldon8926]

I’m pretty sure there’s a site that sells all their proxies for like 2-3 bucks sadly I don’t know what that is but I remember hearing about it so all in all this wasn’t that much help sorry😂

[@MekanikKommandoh88]

Lots of proxy sellers online. A lot of people just print them too.

[@MrTheUsernames]

I know I'm a month late but if you're following the rules as written then it is technically Cameron's responsibility to remind Dylan that he has the option to get a land from Assassin's Trophy. The same goes for Path to Exile and any card like that. It is quite a new rule but if an effect you control gives any opponent a choice you have to inform them of that choice. Every time. Love the content btw!!

[@splitthesoulgaming7431]

Soo, question about the medium green list, list doesn't include seedborn muse, but we definitely saw it in the video. I imagine this has been a recent change, removing seedborn, can you explain the thought process behind removing it and green Sun's?

[@mrbelbobaggins8959]

That music at 8:17 hits just right 🤘🏽

[@FesterrotGaming]

I have been running a turn 2/3 with Wort, Boggart Auntie its Rakdos goblin/combos it has so many ways to combo out for game and all the tutors you could ask for, I just don't have any of the free mana for the deck yet or the deflecting swat / deadly rollick and big weakness is graveyard hate i've been using Bolt Bend and Perpetual Timepiece / Feldons Cane to protect the graveyard.

[@blakemcconnell6213]

This is the first video I ever watched by you guys. These games and the way its edited its great. Very attention grabbing. AND SUB

[@RamzaBeoulvez]

Love that music for game 2! May I know the song name please 🥺

[@SpyrotheDragon97]

I mean if Tymna/Thrasios is Tier 1 and the others are Tier 1.5, what else is Tier 1? Consultation Kess?

[@JulioHernandez-po3bn]

Najeela, the first Sliver, Zur

[@Twohandrok]

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/list-multiplayer-edh-generals-by-tier/

[@terencestewart5661]

LMAO I come back and watch this just to hear, "I'm the golden God."

[@AwesomeAustinPowrz]

Hey Cameron where do you get your fancy dual lands? Like the full art bayou and tropical islands?

[@theultimategod]

What is the fastest most consistent combo deck now that flash is banned and what commander? Great video.

[@CommanderMechanic]

"Can't search your library, DICKHEAD" - damn that got me going good

[@samoumek801]

Now I know this is an old video, but I have a genuine question. And disclaimer: I don't play cEDH, but I always wandered: Why does noone play Geier reach sanitarium? (2, tap: each player draws a card, then discards a card) I know it's shitty and costs 3 mana in total to activate, but mono green decks like yisan have almost no cost of playing this, they can tutor it with crop rotation in response to Thasa's oracle trigger and as long as this is on the field and you have mana opened, noone can win with the oracle combo.

[@DamonE619]

Awesome video! I wish I saw Najeela in this pod though :)

[@RaphaelBriand]

I started listening to Nightfear because I saw it on Dylan's t-shirt in this video and it kicks ass

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Nightfear rips

[@benjaminharper6002]

one of your best games to watch, and funniest games. so a pretty damn good vid

[@NicolBolasED]

Those games made me happy. Thras is really good

[@YelloWord]

This is a small thing, but the sac on Culling the Weak is an additional cost, not part of the resolution. So it definitely should have come back, since he should have been prompted to pay it.

[@lumi2642]

I am in awe as to how Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation wins so many games unexpectedly and consistently

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

It doesn’t feel unexpected to us haha

[@lumi2642]

@@PlaytoWinMTG I get that 😂 but every time you just see “Cast Thassa’s(?)” And the table sighs in “welp”

[@martinslezak1861]

First, I love your videos, keep up the great work! Second, are the OG duals (Tropical Island for example) used by Cameron, the Thrasios / Tymna player proxied? I have seen these like on online mtg or what not but never in a real game.

[@TheFashionfreakj86]

Do you know where Cameron got those? I'm interested

[@1692dg]

7:35 the best part of the video

[@MTG_Ronin]

Did Brandon use the black mana he floated from his upkeep Gitrog trigger/swamp sac? Wouldn’t the mana empty from his pool at the end of his upkeep?

[@tedgop1932]

Who said cedh was not fun?!??!?! I love the videos :)

[@solarraine4902]

Where did you get the dual lands Cam was using? I haven't seen those before and they look great!

[@שחרשגב-מ4ק]

While I do believe thrasios is the best commander in CEDH, there is a problem with the pod too. None of the other decks are capabale of interacting with a turn 2/3 win that well, and while yisan is a well balanced reactive deck, the fact that thrasios is the only blue player means that there is almost no stopping consaltation win, in addition to the fact that thrasios dominates the stack and can simply stop any other player from doing anything relevant (as was made prevelant in the first game)

[@brunojetzer7096]

I really felt the stranglehold blocking the win there...

[@roberthastings5969]

Are we gonna ignore the fact he played gemstone caverns as a pregame effect on his first turn on the second game? Lol

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Are you sure

[@miscellaneousgoblin910]

Mtg players and other hobbyists start getting back together... ...Covid cases spike! Was webcam really that bad @Play To Win? Loved the gameplay anyway! (:

[@salfazlucario2660]

the biggest problem with webcam games imo is that there isn't a BEGIN in sync

[@blackiscolor7732]

you should do a series about just one of partner pairs see which does best

[@Mastblood]

Why not get a card like nyxbloom ancient at 16:35 with natural order?

[@nicholasencarnacion7776]

Does anyone know the name of the song that plays from game 1 when cam realized he could not use finale of devastation because of stranglehold?

[@ericcooney329]

love your videos... where are you guys based out of ? i dont play much cedh but i may try to make one just to have ... you never know

[@RamzaBeoulvez]

Yooo whats the name of that song that plays at the start of game 2? So chill

[@tysanthecreator]

Great games but.. Need another tier 1 blue deck

[@TheQuesoJC]

Cameron killin it

[@toaster4598]

More Yisan decks go green 🥳

[@postmodernbagel7430]

9:22 the cards go to the shadow realm

[@FalseOracle617]

Whatever happened to Kess? When I started playing EDH, she was all over the place. I know the cEDH meta changes fast and I don't really participate in it myself, but is she still at part of the upper echelon of cEDH generals?

[@zedisilluminati9449]

Kess is still very strong, I don't know what you've been seeing but she's still very much a tier 1 commander

[@charyou3167]

@@zedisilluminati9449 eh, 1.5 but she is good.

[@bariltrailette]

Where is all heartbeat of Spring effect card? Or is not good in free for all.

[@alexmcdonald5296]

Where did Cam get those duals from? They look cool

[@JJGarrido_]

Gitrog player was floating mana on the upkeep and using it on its main phase...

[@koreyg8552]

Well yeah if Thrasios is playing in a pod that’s lacking blue then he can go off lol. I agree he’s great but people playing mono colors leaves him with little interaction.

[@mrniceguy00987]

If this is tier 1.5 to 2 what decks would be tier 1 or 0? If 0 is a thing

[@photosinensis]

Thassa's Oracle may need a ban.

[@tim4330]

i mean like geez

[@09Dragonite]

To be fair, doesn't countering Culling the Weak mean that he still had to sacrifice a creature as an additional cost? If he couldn't (or wouldn't) then he couldn't cast the spell in the first place, so theoretically it should never have been countered or even cast there at 14:05 ish 😅

[@marecar900]

Demonic consultation yaall .... Still sad about the flash ban 😒

[@chrisboone2755]

You guys remind me of my playgroup!

[@DevilbunnyMulti]

This shows in 24.5min why thrasios cost 50 eu holy moley what a pop off cam gg

[@TheFashionfreakj86]

Does anyone know where Cameron got those dual alters? I'm interested

[@sknny_t]

Really like your stuff, but it would be awesome to display the names of the players on screen. makes it easier to follow!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

They are on recent videos

[@Jayd3z]

the thrasios' list looks slightly different from the deck in the video. Which is the more updated version?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

The list in the description has probably evolved a bit since this video went up. We are trying to be better at not changing lists in videos after, and just making new lists

[@Jayd3z]

Play to Win sweet, thanks yos

[@ingolf82]

the question isn't "is thrasios the most broken commander ever made?" but "is Thrasios the most boring commander ever made?" You win the same way every time, so long as Tymna is there to give you black. I assume you could also pull it off with Tevesh Zat as the partnmer or Silas Ren, so long as you have Sultai, you are good.

[@kennystone3822]

Would love something like kess v zur v t&t v first sliver lul

[@TonyCook7]

How annoyingly long is thrasios turns sometimes though?

[@croggles3199]

why can i not see camerons decklist :(

[@mosspage9360]

Have you guys tried carbon life counter?

[@Derbograder]

Oh, Play to Win uploaded new video? BEGIN!

[@angellopez6475]

Is this thrasios better than an ad nauseam version?

[@joefuller3886]

swan song blood moon unfucktunatly

[@agenecrobiosis]

There are no other blue decks so yeah it's kind of hard to stop.

[@scotthoward1466]

c'mon guys I'm tryna get some sleep and you upload new vids :'( torture

[@kurtgrgelwrx8376]

Culling the Weak has the additional cost of saccing a creature, so even if it gets countered by Chalice, Gitrog should be ded

[@sindoray2094]

Whats the song name at 18:43?

[@RatBrain]

This is bonkers. Way beyond what my causal a$$ can handle.

[@Someblondeman]

I mean if you were wanting to test if Thrasios was the best why not put it against Kenrith, Kess, and Najeela all of whom are also Tier 1 alongside Thrasios and Tymna

[@DenmarkRoulz]

Where do you guys get those big dice? :)

[@jacobkelley2825]

If possible, where could i acquire those dual land proxies?

[@d9_1056]

Mythicblackcore.com

[@maravitch]

Thrasios wins because the other decks nave little/no interacion to the thassas oracle/consultation. A pod with one or two more players with blue would be complete different imo.

[@thuggishcone1392]

Did I hear Mark Henry😂

[@udinamursona1064]

Thrasios would not have been this dominant if the pod had more blue