Pluto Square Venus in Synastry

This is the video about hot and heavy aspect in synastry. Commonly found in affairs but real question is: can we have a healthy relationship with this square? Watch this video to find out.
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[@1vootman]

I've had this connection with my partner for 19 years...it works like crazy glue...she's the Venus. We have other great aspects between us as well...sun trine sun, Mars conjunct moon, Mars trine venus...etc.

[@Therealnushat]

With mars conjunct moon placement, did you feel like you wanted children with your partner from the very beginning?

[@thewindsoffate]

Dang, my chart with my husband of 20+ years has extremely similar aspects to yours! My Venus squares his Pluto (2° orb), my mars sits on his moon, and thankfully we have a lot of positive aspects too, including Venus trine Saturn. Crazy glue indeed. Definitely a path of turbulent growth for us overall. Lots of cardinal energy battling it out between the two of us (he’s an Aries sun and I’m a Capricorn sun, cancer moon). But there’s nothing really forbidden about our relationship and never was. It took a while for us to think about having kids, but it was mostly financial. Unfortunately when we did try we found it wasn’t really in the cards I also have Venus square Pluto (7° orb) in my natal chart. Such interesting stuff. Especially what she said about Lilith contacts because my Venus just happens to be conjunct my BML within 1°… I think the key is channeling the massive energy in constructive ways, like exercise and personal growth

[@meggan71]

You hit this spot on...I was the Venus person. We were involved 10 years, married for 5. I was definitely damaged by this relationship and it nearly did me in. We did have a few easy aspects, but not enough to make up for this one (tight orb). It really did make me go crazy... my friends and family were actually worried about my mental health! Thank God I survived and am transformed... but I cannot allow my self to think about him or the obsession will start again. So grateful I survived because now I've met someone else and we have Venus trine Pluto- a gift from the Universe after the pain of that relationship. It took all of 3 years to begin to feel better. Thanks so much for this video- it explains so much!!!

[@laurat1012]

I had venus square pluto at 4 degrees with a guy (I was the venus). It takes over everything - your mind, body soul. He isn't a clingy person but become very obsessive over me. It's like your own private world with each other, incredibly intense and you feel like only you two understand each other. It feels like it's destiny -- until tension grows and there's an explosion that destroys the connection for some time -- although you will eventually hopelessly fall back to one another because the connection is so addictive. Very hard to move on from on both sides and the withdrawal can drive you crazy with grief. Overall, super psychologically abusive. He was so afraid of losing me that he would try to use control and manipulation to have me. Recently ended that connection. Also -- it was forbidden. It was a third party situation -- he betrayed his best friend to go after me.

[@77shawnie]

Similar experience

[@malukee1]

woow how you described the connection is exactly how it was with me. You nailed it

[@modernastrology4521]

Sirena X thanks for sharing. Love your description. This square is almost impossible to resist though

[@laurat1012]

Modern Astrology it really is. But it’s so destructive that I can’t go back to it anymore, for my own sake.

[@malukee1]

Sirena X I’m currently in the process of doing that too. I support you! It’s so difficult to do because I feel like I’m losing a part of myself but it has to be done because I’m also losing myself 😔

[@irelandbell1945]

I experienced this aspect with someone. He didn't accept the love I wanted to give him (it seemed like), he would literally object from the connection. Although we had many other aspects in synastry which indicated love, obsession, attraction, past life romance, soulmates...so it wasn't that he wasnt attracted to me. He was just being difficult (he was the one with pluto). Yah, and the love between us was forbidden....he was my professor lolol. im 23 and he was 36.

[@debmary2999]

In my 40 year marriage I was Pluto and he was Venus in synastry. He left me for much younger partner and she is also Pluto square his Venus. They have about 10 challenging aspects in synastry and my ex and I had 4 including this one. I also have natal Pluto square Venus in Scorpio so the depths of my love and devotion are almost unfathomable. I would say to anyone in a Pluto Venus relationship to try and work with it if you can go down to such depths and it could be very rewarding. It might be scary but we have a lot to give especially if the shadow work has been done; presumably anyone at this channel has done this work. Blessings to all!! ❤️

[@modernastrology4521]

Love it! Thanks for sharing :)

[@heathermcvey9660]

How can her Pluto also be square if she is much younger?

[@bluebellbeatnik4945]

@@heathermcvey9660 ​ isn't it also generational? some other astrologer says it's common in age gap relationships.

[@heathermcvey9660]

@@bluebellbeatnik4945 Sorry I don't understand your question. If the younger woman in the scenario depicted by debmary also had her Pluto square the man's Venus then she is either around the same age as debmary, or she is something like 80-120 years younger, which is unlikely.

[@gregoryfelkins4109]

Im an absolute pluto. Manifested temptation. That was very well done.

[@leerizzo1758]

I have this in my chart. Most of my relationships very intense with stalking, it can be very difficult to deal with my whole life.

[@leahgoldberg9895]

My boyfriend just broke up with me. He is Pluto and I am Venus and in the relationship he emotionally abused me, humiliated me, and hurt my feelings very much. Even so, I love him so much and am so attracted and wish we could be together again, but in my Tarot cards he is symbolized by the Devil and I'm in so much pain as the wound is so fresh.

[@TheLatinaWitchBruja]

You’ll be okay honey. Be the beautiful woman you are with someone who deserves you!

[@priyak4198]

I am the venus in the connection and yes,venus is the one who can love pluto unconditionally and truly but pluto doesnt accept anything on venus terms,pluto wants everything acc to his control and convinience.Pluto will bring up hidden traumatic wounds for venus and venus will have to deal with it constantly alone without any help from pluto.Having venus s pluto natally its v v difficult to dissociate love from pain.This connection brings forth these issues only. 1:07

[@huskyludge5323]

I have Venus in Pisces and most of the people close to my age have Sagg in Pluto. I get so obsessive in every relationships I had and it has been super exhausting.

[@laracharlotte]

My Venus/sun conjunction (28 cap) squared a guys ascendent/pluto conjunction (28libra). 0degree orb. I was blown away by the pain it bought up, intense magnetism and obsession from me. So hard. Also our nodes trined within 1 degree, and my mercury conjunct his Lilith within 1 degree. Crazy combo.

[@splash3690]

I have this with my boyfriend friend It’s so forbidden!! Bt our connection was quick strong and I can feel the intensity brewing

[@HertaO.]

I really liked one man before, then I was curious about the synastry and discovered, that there are my Venus conjunct his Lilith, and also my Venus square his Pluto + my Sun square his Mars (orb 1-2). He looked actually like a man, who would exhibit some sadistic intentions towards me in the future (he acts in extremely domineering way). So I'm happy I was warned and decided not to start the relationship. 💣

[@JustWhattaRuLookinAt]

Fan fact: Nancy and Sid were famous and great examples of this synastry aspect.

[@annamarie3288]

Who ???

[@5050TM]

@@annamarie3288 Sid Vicious (drug addict vocalist of the mega famous punk band Sex Pistols) and his gf Nancy Spungen whom he was rumored (and legally accused) to have murdered. They were very obsessed with each other, but their relationship was volatile at times. They both did heroin and there was domestic violence. * Edited for corrections. *

[@annamarie3288]

@@5050TM thanks !!

[@5050TM]

@@annamarie3288 You're welcome 🙂

[@kendragillespie4843]

I have Pluto square Venus in my natal chart as did my husband . We have this in synasty and composite. Everything you described was us. He died of an overdose in 2018.. I have been recovering from that relationship and don't know if I ever will. The death of my husband sparked my interest in Astrology. I have completely changed as a person. That relationship broke me to the core. Now I have transit Pluto conjunct my 0 degree Venus.

[@selfless-esteem]

I hate this aspect for myself. I have the trine nataly. I think I mistake it at times. When I'm Pluto I hate it more. Too much anxiety and frustration and intensity in desire. On the other hand, my brother has this with their wife and their relationship is very peaceful and compatible. For myself it's rough. I have my issues with Pluto and i know that sinking dark feeling when i feel it, it's terrifying.

[@kyliekrisp7201]

I'm pluto and he is venus. He pursued me for three months and I finally just started to give in. He gives me gifts and wants to take me on a trip. I wasn't interested at first but then we kissed and now I feel crazy. He also can't stop touching me when we are together. I keep holding back though because I feel like this situation is way too intense. This is my first time experiencing this aspect, I've experienced the trine many times but it never felt like this.

[@karimasultana5702]

I'm currently in this situation like you! I also falled hard after first kiss but holding now! I also never felt like that with anyone.

[@MrsXx]

I have this with my hubby. I'm Pluto he's the Venus. We've got a lot of Saturn trine, conjunct & sextile placements with our major planets so I don't think this is seen/felt hard. I'm also Pluto Venus sextile nataly so it isn't an issue for me. I love the lust between us but there's true love there too.

[@funlife3484]

Was it love at first sight? Did you notice each other in crowd during 1st meet?

[@malukee1]

me and this person have this aspect in our birth charts and our synastry, but we have a double whammy of Venus sq Pluto, my Venus squares his Pluto and his Venus squares my Pluto so I never know who is effected more, but I can truly say that I was so affected by this and I just can’t continue to be in this connection, it was so overwhelming. We also have Mars conjuct Mars and Venus squar Mars. I have never felt anything like this with anyone else, I felt like I was losing myself the more I dealt with him. He’s a horrible selfish person too.

[@malukee1]

We’re also same sun sign, and I felt like he played mind games and it made it very confusing for me. I was temporarily so depressed and realised this is not a healthy connection, and it seemed like for him it wasn’t anything at all.

[@modernastrology4521]

bbahxg sgak this is so difficult psychological stuff. We can do all spiritual work in the world but once this aspect hits we feel powerless to resist and then we count our loses :(

[@malukee1]

Modern Astrology thank you for responding! I love your videos so much! I’ve learnt a lot about our dynamic. I think I have to just cut our ties once and for all...

[@alexisvcc3354]

@@malukee1 are venus or pluto ? in the square

[@malukee1]

alex b both, so in one aspect I was Pluto and in the other aspect I was Venus, it was a double whammy in our chart

[@TinkerBell33941]

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[@modernastrology4521]

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[@nenaj1]

I am 9 years older than him. He’s been courting me. He is an Aries and I am a Gemini. We both are Taurus moons and cancer risings. He is intense but so am I so it doesn’t scare me lol

[@sugarcandy4639]

I have this both times his Pluto is square my Venus and my Pluto is opposite his Venus, my Pluto is square his moon and mars. Idk if I should even pursue this because I don’t want to be hurt, I want a relationship that last not something quick. 🥺🥺😭

[@Carrie21506]

How did this work out? I have same aspects with someone..

[@misteriozan]

Fascinating! His Venus in Scorpio in my 7th house has a weak conjunction with my Pluto in Libra in my 6th house by a 6.8-degree angle, and his Pluto in his 7th house is square my Venus in my 10th house by 2.9 degrees. His Venus and Pluto are both in my 7th house of Scorpio. I don't have much acquaintance with him yet, and I'm unsure if I have romantic interest, but he's very insistent in his pursuit of me. It'll be intriguing to see how things evolve if I continue to get to know him.

[@dollygupta8048]

I have natal venus square pluto. And the guy I am with has mars and pluto square. His pluto squares my venus by zero degree and mars opposing my venus by three degrees. I want to know how things will be between us.

[@renantedomantay7509]

What if i dont react and just let it her way?what if i dont send her message and reply quickly? Our orb is to tight 0°. She is too echausting for me and I am the Venus.

[@soufia5536]

Thank you for all this précieuse information I have this synastry and this aspect is in double whammy . How does that play out ? Thanks

[@alxcvdo7]

Double whammy in my case. 7 years of jealousy, control, fight, dependence, obsession, deep love and big commitment to each other. But OMG too intense and very destructive if both are immature. :(

[@biancaiordache6446]

We have sun trine pluto DW, my moon square his pluto, his venus square my pluto. We have also have lilith square venus DW and chiron aspects, his venus sextile my saturn, his mars opposite my saturn, his moon trine venus... What do you think about this several aspects? Who feel the most (lust or love)? I feel overwhelmed🥰 and obsessed😁 but in the same time I try to look like I don't care. I feel inner struggles, desire, passion, pride...I hate that I ❤ him.Thanks😘

[@marietg8025]

Are these ever one-sided as far as attraction goes? I've a tight pluto square with a venus /mars and other milder (so to speak) pluto aspects both ways and natal but while I feel there was maybe initial interest from venus /mars, or rather, curiosity, and they came to get me, it's come to nothing very quickly and I'm left deluded and obsessed with some kind of unrequited love situation, and in a permanent state of shock. As far as I'm concerned I don't even register on his radar anymore. Which according to everyone, is not possible 🤷‍♂️ I haven't responded much, visibly, I haven't pushed, I haven't done anything, just in my head. Of course he's a scorpio, he would have to be 🙄. Liliths also aspected heavily, and other things such as venus conjunct my descendant, pluto opp my saturn, and a pile of Pluto trines to outer planets both ways Yeah and it is definitely forbidden 😬 but that hasn't stopped him in other cases, from what I hear.

[@krinka1458]

What if there is a Pluto conjunction square a moon/Venus conjunction? Both people have this nataly. I'm curious if I should run or try it. There's also Venus sextile Pluto.

[@AA-cr6xy]

Hi, what if we have venus (Aquarius) square pluto(scorpio) 5 degree orb as well as venus (scorpio) conjunct pluto 2degree orb

[@raghdaaly472]

I'm wondering how it would work my venus square his pluto , and his venus conjunct my pluto in scorpio . but most of the other aspects are positive , all of his saturn aspects to my planets are positive,moons conjunct in my 4th house and my mercury trine his mercury, i think the only other hard aspect is sun square sun.🤔

[@TheDragonMasterRyu]

what is the difference between this and the opposition if I may ask ?

[@kimberlysmith5404]

Exact aspect occurring currently with my person of 5 years but its chaos.. and it's transformation...and it's impossible but somehow it still is and i hope it always will be. My venus his pluto. Xo

[@anitataylor4287]

yay i love this!!

[@kimberlysmith5404]

@@anitataylor4287 😘

[@kani9284]

how is the sex? Is it as good as astrologers say? lol

[@kimberlysmith5404]

@@kani9284 its better

[@kani9284]

@@kimberlysmith5404 loool love this for you!

[@renantedomantay7509]

If Venus learned not to react to Pluto, Pluto will be the one that can be pulled? I have undefined relationship with someone, we sometimes argued.. End up saying Sorry.. She wanted everything in her way..I am Venus and she is Pluto at 0°orb.what if i dont reply too quick and msg her?

[@thejourneyoffindingatiyah]

I have Pluto square Venus and Pluto square Mars and Pluto square ascendant with him being Pluto so I’m kind of worried. I’m not looking for anything serious so I’m thinking should I keep talking to him or let him go?

[@sibelasn6426]

We have Venus semi sequare Pluto 0:27 dagre. Can I feel that in synastry? Thank you ❤️

[@miamazing1293]

Do you think this aspect would be less severe if you also have venus conjunct venus and moon conjunct venus?

[@blackmamba6046]

What if you have multiple Pluto aspects in synastry? I guess that such a relationship would be considered Plutonian... His Pluto (22°55' Scorpio) sq. my Sun (23°11 Leo) - orb: 0°16 His Pluto (22°55 Scorpio) sq. my Venus/Jupiter (20°45 Leo) - orb: 2°10 My Pluto (17°07 Libra) trine his Venus (20°41 Aquarius) - orb: 3°34 (not sure if this orb is still to be considered) My Pluto (17°07 Libra) trine his Mars (13°16 Aquarius) - orb: 3°49 (same here) My Pluto (17°07 Libra) quincunx his Sun (16°08 Pisces) - orb: 0°59 Plus my Pluto casts aspects to his Saturn, Uranus and Neptune too, but those are generational. Possibly also to his true Lilith (since I don't know his time of birth the true Lilith can be anywhere from 10 to 15°30 Aqua so there could be a trine even though I'm not sure what orb to use for Lilith. Btw since you mentioned Lilith, our Liliths can potentially be in a opposition since mine is at 15° Leo). Plus we both have Pluto-personal planets contacts in our natal charts. My Pluto is in my 8th house and trines my Moon, sextiles my Venus and Sun. His Pluto squares his Venus and Mars/Saturn, possibly his Lilith too. It all certainly feels pretty Plutonian.

[@modernastrology4521]

Yes very plutonian, transformative and difficult to let go and forget (if break up)

[@ninap49]

I am seeing someone who has his Venus in Sagittarius and I am squaring it with my Pluto in Virgo. My Pluto is not 'injured" but conjuncts also his Lilith in his birth chart. The only aspect his Venus has in his chart is this square to Lilith. I am the 'affair' in this connection although I was mislead to believe that he is 'free'. I feel like he is very vulnerable and open around me but I am hesitant to be dragged down into his depth of disasters.

[@tabithalibra]

What about if you have a double square? For example his Pluto squares my Venus (Capricorn square Libra) and then my Pluto squares his Venus ( Scorpio square Aquarius). Doesn’t that mean we both hold the power?

[@makicaaaa5758]

I want to know this to… I have a venus square my bf pluto, and my pluto conjuct his venus …. Double wammt

[@Bazmimoon]

What if you have this aspect and the woman’s Venus (Scorpio) squares the man’s Venus (Capricorn) and the man have Venus square Pluto in his own natal chart? (Capricorn Venus/Libra Pluto).

[@dianaelena2319]

Venus in Scorpio is making a sextile with the Venus in Capricorn, not a square.

[@yfakers1]

I have met a guy, 12 different double whammies, one of them Venus-pluto, and Lilith - Pluto, plus Moon-saturn, all in really close orbs, less than 5'. Crazy situation.

[@modernastrology4521]

Hi! Wau! And hiw did it go?

[@yfakers1]

@@modernastrology4521 still in the getting together phase, but absolutely cant get away. It's like orbiting , not standing close together. There are some difficulties (I am 6 years older, just divorced with 2 kids, he is 25 and some other stuff that keep us apart) and as weird as it may seem, all of them are written in the stars 😂 I am born 8/10/90 8:25 He is 9/22/96 8:10 I have used many online tools etc since we first met, i was sure something too weird was going on.

[@Aura-hm5up]

I am wondering how it is going to work in an arranged marriage. 🤔 My friend just has got engaged to a woman, he is a Venus, she is a Pluto by 3,5 degrees.. also his sun conjunct her south node..

[@modernastrology4521]

Aura *** it is going to be overwhelming turmoil

[@theemotionalaquariustarot222]

I believe i am the Venus Person. For me, it played as getting involved with someone 22 years older than me, and involved drugs and abuse

[@theemotionalaquariustarot222]

I was definitely taken advantage of and manipulated.

[@theemotionalaquariustarot222]

You are on point! He really did turn into my stalker

[@modernastrology4521]

Sorry to hear your story but this is definitely one of the ways how this aspect manifets in reality.

[@kani9284]

I think this applies if the Venus person isn't spiritually evolved yet. Then yes, Pluto will dig up some stuff from the past and it can be really painful for Venus - but with a potential for healing and transformation. I have a moon Pluto square (amongst other pluto stuff) in my natal chart and I have been through the dark night of the soul and I have cleaned out my stuff in a long, painful process of death and rebirth to put it metaphorically so I don't think I will be affected so negatively by such an aspect. There is someone whose Pluto is 0 degrees squared my Venus (amongst other Pluto contacts) and I feel incredible lust for him, but not love. I have no interest in a love relationship but I instinctively feel that a sexual relationship would be amazing between us (we also have Venus/Mars double whammy as well as Sun/Pluto double whammy, moon/Pluto double whammy and mercury square Pluto, Eros conjunct Sun as well as Mars conj Lilith in composite and those aren't all the sexy aspects even lol)

[@beequarian]

Can someone shed light.. I met a guy and we became fast friends We were both involved when we met I am no longer. I have Venus in Aquarius squaring his Pluto in Scorpio I think 2 ‘37 He has Venus Aquarius squaring my Pluto in Scorpio at 0’20……. I’m trying see what the message is

[@donnajean9805]

I have a wide (10 degree) venus square pluto square with my twinflame. I am the venus, it is very painful. This has been an on & off relationship for over 10 yrs now.

[@donnajean9805]

We also have an exact uranus (me) opposed venus aspect.

[@ruthck23]

It's not "twinflame", this is the false "twin-flame". If anything causes you too much pain and turmoil, it isn't divine. Maybe just don't give it names, because expectations can cause more pain. Much love and I hope you get the love you wish for. x

[@jwlq9287]

Hi what about pluto square venus in composite ?

[@annamarie3288]

Same

[@MariaMaria-yp5ne]

I'm the pluto persons i feels ghe pain so u decided to forget him cuz i regret loving him it's so painful to leave but i must for my sanity

[@O-ft3mf]

When I was Venus I got into real hell, when I was Pluto it was good friendship but later I hurt my friend and he does not want to talk to me. I felt friendship and human love but no other when I was Pluto. The strange thing these two relationships happened almost in the same time. I really miss Venus (my friend). But I agree that it is better for him not to comunicate. I had other ugly conjunctions with first guy (Lilith and more). No monster deserves the pain and suffering I went through. I actually could die.

[@tractordriver8950]

Does a 6 degree orb count?

[@judytamoongoddess]

He was Pluto I was Venus, we had square, it was crazy instense but ended fast, I had my Venus in his 12th house and I was a mistress....

[@ArcherQueen13]

Are you still there? I need to know how long you two actually had this "fling" going?

[@miahi2356]

I hope someone can answer my questions this? ❤ 1) Has anyone felt submissive? 2) what happens when your synastry and your composite chart are very similar for example : his Lilith trines my moon in synastry and it’s in composite? Add on we have this in our own natal chart our lilliths trines our moon? How does that play ? Very intense? Does he feel it too? His Pluto squares my venus in synastry but add on too his Lilith trines my moon (this is in composite chart too) I feel very submissive around him and sometimes his energy is intimidating sometimes though 🤔 anyone felt that? He softens up after if I make sense but it’s 😮wow Of course the tension between us is UNBELIEVABLE 😢 and the eye contact too I’m constantly thinking about him!!!!!!!!! And We have this in our natal chart, my Lilith trine and my moon and his Lilith trines his moon Both of our plutos sextiles our moon in our natal chart too Kinda more explanation maybe 🤔 Thanks for reading ❤😊

[@krokaro9690]

no answer from you ... I had questions to ask you :)

[@leerizzo1758]

7 years it's been

[@r011ing_thunder6]

I’m scared. No let me say it like this IM SCARED. I’m Pluto, she’s Venus. It’s an exact aspect. We also have Saturn trine Pluto so what’s that mean?

[@LegendaryMel]

Saturn trine Pluto is not very important because both are generational planets. Check with personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus) instead :)

[@annamarie3288]

Scared of what ? Your own passion ??

[@5050TM]

Why are you scared?

[@r011ing_thunder6]

@@annamarie3288 no but what pluto can also represent i've seen relationships take a violent turn because of this aspect on twitter

[@ericaeva4408]

@@r011ing_thunder6 I don’t blame you. I had (his) Venus conjunct (my) Pluto in Scorpio, and it ended up with him abusing me... it left me traumatized. Not saying that all hard Venus-Pluto relationships will end like this, but I see this aspect as a red flag now. Be careful, and proceed with caution! It’s very volatile and can easily get out of control, and possibly turn violent.

[@XOXLovely9]

I was venus and he psychically abused me. I had blue patches all over. I had to get a restraining order. He's still after me. 😭😭😭😭😭

[@modernastrology4521]

😳

[@XOXLovely9]

@@modernastrology4521 we also have venus square mars because his mars and pluto are in the same sign.

[@kani9284]

@@XOXLovely9 so sorry to hear this

[@miahi2356]

I believe you!!!!!! I’m sorry you had to experience that!!!!😢❤

[@missmiss701]

Does the conjunction between Venus & Pluto exists if the difference in orbs is 9 degrees? 🤔

[@modernastrology4521]

Miss Miss yes

[@missmiss701]

@@modernastrology4521 thank you💜

[@milicazotovic2209]

Orb with pluto 9???

[@tereza9085]

I have this with someone 20 years younger and from different culture. It makes no sense. It's like we can't stop this nonsense.

[@Lucas-qw3rd]

Im the pluto, so do i give up the relationship? Im sad now.

[@miahi2356]

No don’t give up on the relationship ❤ you are just aware of it, it’s beautiful embrace being the Pluto and be your awesome self. I’m the Venus person ~

[@miahi2356]

It’s a beautiful aspect, I feel gives both power and bonding experience it’s like “glue” what I’ve read of course it’s intense but it’s worth it! I have Pluto and Lilith in my chart maybe that’s why I love it but still 😅wow Don’t give up ❤