PMDG 777 Landing Tutorial

[@fowlbird1000]

Just got this on Friday. Absolutely astounding. Great learning curve, especially for someone who has come from the ngx like myself. Highly recommended.

[@CaptainNav]

+fowlbird1000 Thank you very much, it makes my day every time someone enjoys a video!

[@SKApuNx2711]

C'est quand même dingue qu'un contenu d'une telle qualité ne soit pas plus populaire !

[@CaptainNav]

+Sam7x Merci beaucoup pour le message, c'est gentil de ta part.

[@SKApuNx2711]

Je voulais te demander, tu es/étais pilote sur 777 ? Quand j'ai regardé ta vidéo sur l'EFATO et même celle-ci, en écoutant les conseils que tu donnes je me suis dit "soit c'est un pilote soit il a buché FCOM et FCTM jours et nuits !" Bonne continuation en tout cas, je m'abonne :)

[@CaptainNav]

+Sam7x Je suis effectivement pilote sur 777 en ce moment. Merci beaucoup pour l'abonnement, il y aura d'autres videos bientot.

[@Ahmedblaser]

ca viendra je suis sure!

[@CaptainNav]

+Ahmed Saleh Oui... It is only a simulator after all, if you do a hard landing or a long landing, there is nobody you need to report to, LOL

[@brandon_dammers]

Very powerful tutorial! You just earned yourself a subscriber :D keep up the good work!

[@CaptainNav]

+Brandon Dammers Thank you very much, I am glad you found the video useful. Welcome to the channel.

[@jtsjc1]

Thank you Captain Nav great video as always!

[@CaptainNav]

+jtsjc1 You are welcome.

[@kevinsheth90]

very informative!! thanks

[@CaptainNav]

+Kevin Sheth You are welcome, I am glad you found the video useful.

[@mo.k1990]

Great video. I red in the T7 FCTM that i have to use Vref+5 for every landing if autothrust is engaged. Is this true? What about strong crosswinds ec.?

[@CaptainNav]

Yes, you have to use Vref+5. If you have gusty winds you can take it up to Vref+10 to give yourself a bigger margin if you want.

[@PreetiSharmaP20MS005]

Is there a difference between flaring in head wind and tail wind ?

[@CaptainNav]

Hey... thanks for your question. A little bit yes... in a tailwind you need to adjust the flare a tiny bit to avoid floating. It is subtle though.

[@manced8375]

Are there any tutorials on completely manual landing without the use of ILS at all...I really need help, I have trying to land at Princess Juniana airport but I always fail, either I drop into the ocean or I find myself fling too high that I have to go around, or I feind myself turning before touch down because of speen, I really need help.

[@CaptainNav]

+Man Ced I invite you to have a look at my video of St Maarten airport here kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4rVY6Wqicdlisk . There is no ILS there and the VOR approach ends as a visual approach, with a manual landing.

[@manced8375]

Thank you a lot...let me watch and download it...

[@CaptainNav]

+Man Ced Cool, enjoy!

[@calumw8409]

Very helpful video thanks. May I ask where your visual focus is before and during the flare? In the sim, I like to focus on the end of the runway in about the last 50 to 100 feet of the descent, but glance at the PFD as I initiate the flare, then back to the end of the runway. Is that Ok, or should my focus be entirely on the end of the runway just before and during the flare?

[@CaptainNav]

Hi, thanks for stopping by. What you are doing sounds good to me. It is ok to have a very quick look at the PFD (let's say at 70 feet) to make sure everything is ok but otherwise you need to look outside👍

[@calumw8409]

@@CaptainNav Thanks for your reply. I guess no more checking what my attitude is at 30 feet on the PFD, then checking what I increase it by on the PFD for the flare. Hopefully see improvement after getting rid of a bad habit.

[@edojrski6228]

why do i float especially at 20-30 ft and how do i know the pitch of the nose especially at the cockpit?

[@CaptainNav]

Don't pull too much on the control, it is just a little pull to raise the nose by 2 or 3 degrees maximum.

[@edojrski6228]

@@CaptainNav where will i see the pitch of the nose of my aircraft?

[@edojrski6228]

@@CaptainNav preferably in the panels

[@CaptainNav]

When you land do not look at the instruments, look towards the middle/end of the runway to judge the flare. You should see the nose go up a little bit, but not too much. If you float, it might be because you are too fast too.

[@MrLeesflightsimulatorworld]

I suggest u land at HNL (Honolulu int'l airport).Because the HNL has been often blowed wind gust.It's very difficult to land with wind gust.You did very well good job.But I recommend u make a video under wind gust.

[@CaptainNav]

+ss4thldk Thanks for your message, I will try HNL one of these days, on the to do list ;-)

[@MrLeesflightsimulatorworld]

+Captain Nav Thank u sir.I have kept your channel.

[@CaptainNav]

+ss4thldk Thank you, I appreciate it. Welcome on board!

[@mo.k1990]

The T7 ist trimed out for the Vref+5 Speed, so when i´m disconnecting the AP, there´s no need to make any trim adjustments since i´m not changing speeds, right?

[@dariusphd582]

Hello sir! I have a question, what is your weight when you performed this landing? I selected the short range fuel amount but my stall speed is still very fast at 160 knots so i normally have to do my landing at 170 knots atleast. How can you fly at 150 knots in this video? Thanks in advance :D

[@CaptainNav]

I think the weight here is about 235t. It is a good thing to select the short range fuel, but what do you want in the payload? The maximum weight for landing is 251290kgs so you need to make sure your aircraft weight is below that. You also need to select a vRef for flaps 30. Let me know!

[@dariusphd582]

@@CaptainNav this actually helped me a lot! A just realized im flying a little overweight at 256 tons! Also thanks for the very quick reply I wasn't expecting that! You're the best!

[@dariusphd582]

@@CaptainNav also, one more question, are you supposed to set the vref manually? If so how? Because even tho im light enough, the stall speed in the pfd still shows the red bars below 160 as a result the plane wont allow me to get slower than that

[@dariusphd582]

@@CaptainNav i am also very sorry if I have too many questions as I am quite new to the flight sim world

[@dariusphd582]

@@CaptainNav never mind Captain view, I just had to input the gross weight into the fmc at init ref. My landings have been pretty good ever since. Thanks again!

[@Allanlandman]

Thank you sir.

[@CaptainNav]

+Allanlandman You are welcome

[@anshulkadam2790]

While Landing my Aircraft nose goes automatically very Up I'm facing this problem since 1 month and the aircraft tail touches the ground I'm not able to make a single landing good😢😢😢😢😢

[@CaptainNav]

I am not sure why the nose goes up so much that the tail hits the runway. Maybe you flare too much, your joystick is not correctly calibrated... It is hard for me to say. Send PMDG a support ticket.

[@anshulkadam2790]

@@CaptainNav but sir it automatically goes up when I'm at 3000 feet ☹️☹️😩😩😩

[@CaptainNav]

Maybe the aircraft is too heavy. Try to remove fuel. It is hard for me to know what is wrong. As I said, please contact PMDG for support, they might be able to help.

[@anshulkadam2790]

@@CaptainNav ok I'll contact pmdg thank you sir✌️😄

[@ruhaan6216]

Hello, Captain! I'm wondering why the approach speed needs to be VREF + 5?

[@CaptainNav]

5 knots is the usual increment added to the VREF. This is to take account of the speed loss when flaring and bringing the thrust back to idle during the flare. You start the flare at VREF+5 and touchdown at VREF (ideally). Does it make sense?

[@ruhaan6216]

@@CaptainNav Yes, absolutely! Thanks, Captain!

[@R160A]

It looks like the landing technique is pretty much the same across all Boeing aircraft. This technique is pretty much identical to the 737 landing technique

[@CaptainNav]

Pretty much, yes. Just have to take into account the inertia of the aircraft🤣

[@francobobfred]

Question.... so the thrust automatically retard to idle even though you were flying manually? Or does it only do that when you do Autoland?

[@CaptainNav]

Yes the autothrottle always stays on even if flying manually, and it will bring the thrust to idle automatically when required.

[@747simmer4]

Captain Nav wow did not know this, thank you

[@zxxcnn1436]

How to land without the plane not letting me taxi and saying somthing like check brake temperature

[@CaptainNav]

You are either landing very heavy or braking too much from what I can gather...

[@zxxcnn1436]

Oh thanks ill try to use less brakes.

[@CaptainNav]

I know that if the plane is heavy and you brake with a button on a joystick, for example, then the brakes can get hot quickly.

[@niranjaniyer1584]

Captain Nav, amazing video as well. I flare at 20 feet is it too late? I will try your technique.

[@CaptainNav]

20 feet is maybe a tiny bit late...

[@niranjaniyer1584]

Captain Nav : thank you for the advice, Now landings are better at 30 feet flare

[@jeremieimbs2625]

@@CaptainNav bonjour m Et merci pour la video. Quand dans un simulateur on n'a pas l'avertisseur des altitudes (50, 40 etc) comment on fait pour juger le bon moment pour l'arrondi ? Merci beaucoup

[@CaptainNav]

L' avertisseur d'altitudes est très utile. Si il ne marche pas, le pilote "monitoring" peut annoncer les altitudes. Aussi non, il faut juger la position verticale de l'avion au dessus de la piste et croiser les doigts😃! Avec un peu de pratique et d'expérience ça devrait passer....

[@jeremieimbs2625]

@@CaptainNav ok merci car je vole sur aerofly fs 2020 sur mobile et l'avertisseur d'altitude ne fonctionne pas. On m'avait aussi toujours dit qu'un arrondi se fait au feeling juste en se fiant à des repères extérieurs je me trompe?

[@fadisalah2908]

HOW DO YOU TURN OFF AUTO PILOT WITHE OUT AUTO PILT ALER?????

[@ThomassoCZ]

You need to press it twice.

[@747simmer4]

In boeing airliners disconnecting the auto pilot or auto throttle needs to be pressed twice to let the plane know you in command

[@aseem7w9]

theres a button in yoke that you press twice

[@YourMemeDealer]

Nice vid but i have a question i have the 777-200lr and when i disengage the autopilot it makes that loud noise and how do i turn it off?

[@CaptainNav]

+Λmadeus You need to press the disengage button a second time.

[@YourMemeDealer]

ok thanks for replying:)

[@YourMemeDealer]

Captain Nav i have another question, how do i get or buy those 777 like emirates,american airlines and other airlines coz my 777 just only have that stock pmdg logo and stuff...

[@pointbreak9101]

The thrust comes to idle automatically in real life?

[@xypz5634]

yes sir

[@CaptainNav]

+Canal LhVGamesBr Indeed it does, as long as the autothrottle is connected.😉

[@pointbreak9101]

Captain Nav also in airbus?

[@pointbreak9101]

Captain Nav thankyou ;)

[@CaptainNav]

+Dane Jones No worries😉

[@MartinMartinez-dw5gl]

Do you trim while landing?

[@CaptainNav]

No never trim while in the flare. The aircraft should be in trim when you configured for the landing and stabilised. As a reminder on the 777 you trim for speed so the aircraft should be in trim when you land if you fly the approach at the correct speed.

[@MartinMartinez-dw5gl]

Thanks , make sense now 🤗

[@kinglimpang8067]

Sir, I press the A/P button in the MCP but it doesn't disengage. Is that normal?? If yes how to fix it?

[@CaptainNav]

+King Lim Pang To disengage the autopilot, you need to press the autopilot disconnect switch on the control column twice. Hope this helps.

[@kinglimpang8067]

Captain Nav Thanks!!

[@CaptainNav]

+King Lim Pang You are welcome.

[@gregoryyp]

hi , what is the "EBW" ( i mean ) ??!! on your IAS ? it's blue , I never saw this before on 777 simulator or real , that's strange ^^ and it disappears at 90ft AGL

[@CaptainNav]

+YP Greg It is to show where the Fly By Wire trim is. It is not there in the real aircraft, but I find it useful in the simulator here as there is no trim feedback to the joystick.

[@anthonyss89]

@@CaptainNav How do you enable it on the PMDG, sorry this comment is like 4 years late.

[@CaptainNav]

It is in the options. Can't remember exactly, I would need to look.

[@f14xtomcat72]

What speed do you maintain when approaching ?

[@CaptainNav]

Depends on the landing weight....most of the time let's say between 145 to 154 knots.

[@f14xtomcat72]

@@CaptainNav thanks cap👍🏽

[@pointbreak9101]

whats your autobrake level? 1 or 2?

[@CaptainNav]

+Christian Natividad I guess 2 or 3. It depends on a lot of factors such as runway length, wind and landing weight, etc... but Autobrake 2 and 3 are the most common settings.

[@pointbreak9101]

Captain Nav thankyou

[@arussian_spy]

If you see this when I land it says that my brakes are overheated can you help?

[@pointbreak9101]

Not_A_Pro the cause of overheating is because you use manual brake during rollout in your joystick or whatever youre using. but when you use autobrakes, its just indicates "brake temp" in the eicas. you can also see your brake temp in the gear page. mine usually heats into 6

[@CaptainNav]

+Dane Jones The brake temperature should never get to 6, unless you are very heavy and brake like crazy. I suggest using the autobrake system with a setting of 2 or 3. Don't forget to use reverse thrust, that will keep the brakes cooler.

[@lester2208]

Is your simulation rate set to half speed? Pls answer thanks...

[@CaptainNav]

+Lester Shane No normal rate

[@lester2208]

Captain Nav but when i land my plane it feels faster than normal... Using the correct landing speeds from fmc.

[@CaptainNav]

+Lester Shane Maybe you have simulation rate×2? Mind you, landing at 140-150 knots is fast already.

[@pointbreak9101]

Captain Nav or it depends on your fuel and payload

[@769270865]

You don't have to disenage AT for landing, Boeing did not require that in operation manuel

[@largeyankeesfan]

When did he do that? Do you mean when his reversers come on?

[@aseem7w9]

@@rocco1 he didnt disconnect auto throttle

[@HolyOrangeJuice]

I don't know where else to ask to resolve a problem I've been having. But recently, very consistently, somewhere from top of decent to landing I'll get a random max thrust from the plane that over speeds and then I have to manually move my throttle down to correct it. All while A/T button is highlighted and auto throttle was working the entire flight. All of which without touching the throttle to cause such an action. This time I was coming in for the ILS 34R at KSEA. Just as I was about to hit the approach button or as I was hitting it the plane speed up to over 300 knots when I had it manually set to 220 or so and it was flying very smooth. Suddenly throttle without me touching it goes maximum thrust and causes me a lot of issues. I don't understand it. I pulled my throttle back and hit the A/T button a few times and got the plane under control. The A/T button was just fine. Green. Good to go. I don't know what happened. EDIT: I did some further testing and I still don't know how to resolve it or if it is an actual issue. I set my plane up at 20000 feet on autopilot and I could move my throttle without it messing with the auto throttle. My throttle was not giving input. Then as I messed with the altitude knob it started to take my throttle input at some point. I couldn't pinpoint where but now we know I'm not crazy and I would like to get to the bottom of it in case people have the issue in the future. At some points in a decent my throttle also didn't give any input to the plane. Auto throttle was doing it. So whatever the problem is it has to do with a decent and the plane suddenly taking throttle inputs from my throttle instead of the auto throttle system.

[@CaptainNav]

+XBOXORANGEJUICE It is definitely strange the aircraft accelerated that much. Check your settings, I think there is an option to disable your joystick throttle when the autothrottle is engaged....I think... might help. Otherwise, I am not really sure what the problem could be. Are you hitting toga inadvertently? What are the modes ln the FMA?

[@HolyOrangeJuice]

Captain Nav I did some research and will further do more. Asiana airlines crashed at San Francisco because they used FLCH mode on final for visual. That put their autothrottle into the hold or sleep mode. They didn't realize in FLCH the autothrottle if moved for a second or two will go to a standby mode. And there is no automatic wake-up. Since we as sim pilots don't have automatic moving throttles what was happening to me is on the FLCH decent my throttle might jitter or spasm a little. Sending the real throttle in the cockpit to max. Since my throttle is at max after I take off. Where it stays still I land. But now it all makes sense. I'll see if pmdg has options to not allow that to happen. I believe it does.

[@CaptainNav]

+XBOXORANGEJUICE You are absolutely correct about the Asiana in San Francisco. Hold is a "dangerous" mode, as you pointed out. I also believe you can tweak the settings in the sim.

[@HolyOrangeJuice]

PMDG Setup > Simulation > Options > Page 2 > A/T Manual Override to NEVER. This will prevent us from accidentally making an adjustment to our throttles when in FLCH mode. I hope it helps someone else. The forums are full of questions but nothing but jackwagons who think they are better than those who ask questions spewing nonsense. This youtube channel is what will help many people and the comments here. Thank you Captain Nav for providing this resource and a place to leave comments and discuss things.

[@CaptainNav]

+XBOXORANGEJUICE Thank you very much for your reply, you found the answer. The channel is indeed here as a resource. Thanks for your support.

[@luckarm5481]

Hi there! When I try to land I’m off the glide slope but I land safely but the problem is when I try to land with out the glide slope red and white the landing becomes way harder for me so do you have any tips on staying in glide slope?

[@임쌀별-n9k]

Is the throttle idle is automatic??

[@CaptainNav]

Yes it is going to idle automatically if the autothrottle is on.

[@임쌀별-n9k]

@@CaptainNav Thank you sir^^ and I have one more question. when do I have to extend flaps1 when landing?

[@CaptainNav]

@@임쌀별-n9k You would extend flaps 1 at least when 12/15 miles to the runway so that you nicely slow down and don't rush the approach. If you fly an ILS approach, you want to intercept the glideslope with at least flaps 5.

[@임쌀별-n9k]

@@CaptainNav I got it! thank you so much captain 🙏

[@mohamedabderrahmenhamra6302]

Hello I know you are French Bonjour comment ça va?

[@CaptainNav]

Oui oui

[@beanie5851]

“Uh”

[@CaptainNav]

😉